Michelle's marriage

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Respected all list members

Namaste,

In this case all the Planets are for for giving the marriage except Moon.

Saturn the delay causing planet is with Jupiter, So no effect of Saturn. The

difference between Sun and Saturn is more then 3 degrees. So the Mars is

with 24 points can give the marriage. The anterdasha of mars comes very

early, at the age of 10 years. She gets matured in the anter of Saturn. Now

Saturn is with 17 points. But it have sight on house " A " . So directly it can

be able to give the marriage. Now if we study the Navamansa chart The saturn

is in Scorpio Navamanse, and Mars is in Arises. Makes them Samdharmi. The

Mars is strongest planet, and Saturn can represent Mars.

In such cases we must see the next anterdasha, next is Mercury, then Ketu (

Saturn and Jupiter). When coming periods are fevorable for marriage, the

Saturn can give the result. Please observe the Saturn is Samdharmi to

Jupiter and Mercury also. Mars, Mercury and Jupiter all the three planets

are powerful singificator, aproximatly of equal strength.

Therefore the Saturn automatically becomes stronger.

Saturn is in the sight of Mars in navamansha chart. (Please note that all

combinations given should be checked from rashi chart and Navamansha Chart.)

Both Rashi chart and Navamansha chart have equal status.

So marriage can be performed in Saturn Sub Period. The Date of function can

be some 3/4 days before the probable date. in this case the probable date

comes to 4th March. The marriage performed on 1st March is quite in order.

One more thing, The samdharmi planets are those situated in the sign or

constellation of other planets. It should be observed from Sign chart and

Navamansha chart both. The constillations are ruled by perticular planet. If

two planets are in the constillation of same planet they should be treated

as samdharmi. 1st 10th and 19th constillations are ruled by same planet

Ketu. similarly 2nd 11th and 20th by Venus, 3rd, 12th, and 21st are ruled by

Sun, and so on.

The navamansha chart is a important chart. If two planets are in the

navamansha of same planet are said to be samdharmi.

I think this is sufficient for list members to understand.

Regards,

Sach Raguvanshi

 

 

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Thank you Sach for your explanation of Michelles chart. I have printed it

out so that I can study it in detail, some of the points you make are a bit

obscure to me ( though possibly clear to the others). One point though you

say quite early in your letter that Saturn has 17 but it has sight on house

A therefore it can give marriage directly. SDurely you mean that as it has

sight on house A it CANNOT give marriage directly.

 

Peter

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Some corrections-

-- In , " sach raghuwanshi "

<sach126@h...> wrote:

> Respected all list members

> Namaste,

> In this case all the Planets are for for giving the marriage except

Moon.

> Saturn the delay causing planet is with Jupiter, So no effect of

Saturn. The

> difference between Sun and Venus is more then 3 degrees. So the

Mars is

> with 24 points can give the marriage. The anterdasha of mars comes

very

> early, at the age of 10 years. She gets matured in the anter of

Saturn. Now

> Saturn is with 17 points. But it have sight on house " A " . So

directly it can not

> be able to give the marriage. Now if we study the Navamansa chart

The saturn

> is in Scorpio Navamanse, and Mars is in Arises. Makes them

Samdharmi. The

> Mars is strongest planet, and Saturn can represent Mars.

> In such cases we must see the next anterdasha, next is Mercury,

then Ketu (

> Saturn and Jupiter). When coming periods are fevorable for

marriage, the

> Saturn can give the result. Please observe the Saturn is Samdharmi

to

> Jupiter and Mercury also.(though it is having less points then the

other planets, because it gets favarable sightor all planets are with

4 or less then 4 points) Mars, Mercury and Jupiter all the three

planets

> are powerful singificator, aproximatly of equal strength.

> Therefore the Saturn automatically becomes stronger.

> Saturn is in the sight of Mars in navamansha chart. (Please note

that all

> combinations given should be checked from rashi chart and

Navamansha Chart.)

> Both Rashi chart and Navamansha chart have equal status.

> So marriage can be performed in Saturn Sub Period. The Date of

function can

> be some 3/4 days before the probable date. in this case the

probable date

> comes to 4th March. The marriage performed on 1st March is quite in

order.

> One more thing, The samdharmi planets are those situated in the

sign or

> constellation of other planets. It should be observed from Sign

chart and

> Navamansha chart both. The constillations are ruled by perticular

planet. If

> two planets are in the constillation of same planet they should be

treated

> as samdharmi. 1st 10th and 19th constillations are ruled by same

planet

> Ketu. similarly 2nd 11th and 20th by Venus, 3rd, 12th, and 21st are

ruled by

> Sun, and so on.

> The navamansha chart is a important chart. If two planets are in

the

> navamansha of same planet are said to be samdharmi.

> I think this is sufficient for list members to understand.

> Regards,

> Sach Raguvanshi

>

>

>

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Respected Peterji,

Pranam

I mean it cannot give marriage directly as it aspects house 'A'. May be

typing mistake, if typed as can give marriage.

Regards

Sach

 

 

> " Peter Sutcliffe " <petermay

>

>

>Re: Michelle's marriage

>Wed, 27 Sep 2000 19:23:46 +1000

>

>Thank you Sach for your explanation of Michelles chart. I have printed it

>out so that I can study it in detail, some of the points you make are a bit

>obscure to me ( though possibly clear to the others). One point though you

>say quite early in your letter that Saturn has 17 but it has sight on house

>A therefore it can give marriage directly. SDurely you mean that as it has

>sight on house A it CANNOT give marriage directly.

>

>Peter

>

>

>

>

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Dear Sach,

I have studied your delineation of Michelle's chart and was able to follow

most of your reasoning but it did raise several questions which I would be

pleased of you would clarify.

1) You say the the first anterdasa of Mars is at 10years which is too early

and she matures in the anterdasa of Saturn - True but the second anterdasa

is at age of 24 which is still very suitable for marriage according to

western customs. In fact it is more suitable than the anterdasa of Saturn

which is quite early in the wset.

2)In the Navamsa Mars is in Aries and Saturn is in Scorpio, this means that

Saturn is in neither the same sign or same constellation, nor is it in a

4/10 position - it is however in a sign which is still ruled my Mars. Does

this mean that in any case where one of the planets owns 2 signs the same

reasoning can apply. For example if Jupiter is in Pisces and Mercury is in

Sagittarius then Mercury can act as sandharni for Jupiter. Secondly does

this apply in both the Rasi chart and the Navamsa or just the Navamsa.

3)You say planets in the same sign OR constellation are sandharmi. At the

start of Lesson 8 (page 44) Krushna said that the two planets must be in the

same sign AND the same constellation. Which is correct??.

4)You say in your delineation the Saturn is sandharmi for both Jupiter and

Mercury also. I can understand Jupiter as both planets are in the same sign

but I can't understand why Saturn should be sandharmi to Mercury they are

not in the same sign or constellation, nor are they ina 4/10 relationship in

either the Rasi or Navamsa.

5) Having decided that the marriage would take place in the Saturn

sub-period how did you arrive at significators Saturn/Jupiter. I thought

that usually the next 2 planets other than the sub-period planet were the

first choice, In this case why not Jupiter/Mercury or even Jupiter /Mars.

6) At the start of your interpretation you said that as Saturn was with

Jupiter there would be no delays. In the Saturn sub-period there are 3

Saturn/Jupiter periods why then if there are no delays due to Saturn would

you choose the third of these period and not the first.

 

From the fact that no-one else has brought up these points I assume that

they are all mopre knowledgeable than myself and I beg your indulgence of my

ignorance.

 

Peter

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Dear Peter and Sandy -

 

I also totally agree with Sandy in that there is no such thing as a dumb

question. We're all in the same boat here and the fact that you even come up

with these questions is proof enough that you're studying the system closely

and trying to absorb and learn the rules, which speaks alot for itself. For

that I congratulate you on your persistence. Krushna should be back in a few

days as well and he will be able to add further clarification to things. But

I think that we could use a few more of these case examples such as Sach has

given us in order to compare results and see how much we know. So whatever

you're doing Peter, keep up the good work and the questions.

 

Donna

 

 

< >From the fact that no-one else has brought up these points I assume that

> they are all mopre knowledgeable than myself and I beg your indulgence of

my

> ignorance.

>

> Peter

 

WRONG!!! ;-) These are ALL very valid and very good questions that we ALL

need clarity on...I was composing a similar list of questions myself for

Sach, on points that I felt we had no prior knowledge of, and that he

addressed in his analysis of Michelle's chart...So thanks very much Peter

for addressing these points of confusion for further clarity, and beating me

to it! >>

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Dear Peter,

 

> >From the fact that no-one else has brought up these points I assume that

> they are all mopre knowledgeable than myself and I beg your indulgence of

my

> ignorance.

>

> Peter

 

WRONG!!! ;-) These are ALL very valid and very good questions that we ALL

need clarity on...I was composing a similar list of questions myself for

Sach, on points that I felt we had no prior knowledge of, and that he

addressed in his analysis of Michelle's chart...So thanks very much Peter

for addressing these points of confusion for further clarity, and beating me

to it!

 

I, too, look forward to the response from Sach to these questions...As with

each answer we continue to learn and become more proficient with this System

by our ability to test it out with " factual " input and according to the

" rules " .;-) So to do that with proficiency, we need ALL the rules...

including what takes precedence over what. It may take us some time, but

we'll get there...;-)

 

I think the language barrier is our biggest obstacle to overcome at this

point, but with patience, (especially from Krushna and Sach ;-))

understanding WILL happen. With each question and answer, we put another

piece of the puzzle together.

 

~Namaste~

Sandy

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Sandy,

Glad to hear I am not the only one who is often in the dark with parts of

explanations. I also think you're right regarding the language barrier too.

English can be such an ambiguous language. For example where Krushna said

sign and constellation the " and " could be taken to mean " as well as " in

which case it could mean " or " - which I think it probably does. Even reading

that sentance I have just written doesn't make complete sense!.

Personally I think that both Krushna and Sach do a marvellous job with their

English - I know many people who were born in England and don't do so well.

By the way did I ever tell you the story of the Frenchman who had studied

English for ten years before finall deciding to try out his prowess. As he

walked out the station in London he saw a large advert for a West End show

it said " Annie Get Your Gun -mpronounced SUCCESS " He shot himself. Ha Ha

Ha

 

Peter