Guest guest Posted September 29, 2000 Report Share Posted September 29, 2000 Dear Sach and Krushna, To make it easier on both of you for your generous efforts, and to make our understanding of these points easier and clearer, I have tried to formulate the questions below so that you will just need to respond with a simple "Yes" or "No" reply. I hope that's OK. ;-) For the timing of an event, we know that the event occurs in the sub-period of a powerful significating planet or its samdharmi. On page 46 of the Lessons, Figure 3, we are given some 4:10 placements for planets that are samdharmi combinations. These are: Saturn/Venus, Mars/Moon, and Sun/Mars. Questions: 1. Are these planets above the only 4:10 lord combinations that are to be considered samdharmi? 2. Are the mutable signs of Pisces, Gemini, Virgo, and Sagittarius and their lords ever considered for samdharmi combinations with regard to the 4:10 lord combinations? 3. Are the combinations of Saturn/Mars, Jupiter/Mercury, Venus/Sun, or Moon/Venus considered samdharmi by virtue of their 4/10 placements? 4. When figuring an event such as "Longevity", which involves a dusthana ( 8th House), does the sub-period of the powerful significating planet, or its samdharmi, indicate the period when the "longevity" is "threatened"? 5. With regards to the above question, (number 4) would this same powerful significator indicate the period when the longevity is most protected? 6. When figuring an event such as "Disease", which involves 6th House significations, another dusthana house, does the sub-period of the powerful significating planet indicate the period when disease may occur? 7. Considering the above question (number 6) involving 6th House signification's, would the most powerful planet indicate the sub-period in which one is protected from disease? 8. With regard to the dusthanas, do the "weakest" planets in their respective sub-periods indicate the dangerous times for the native with regards to health, losses, disease, longevity? Thanks very much for any consideration of these points. ~Namaste~ Sandy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 29, 2000 Report Share Posted September 29, 2000 > " Sandy Crowther " <sandy > > > Yes or No Questions >Fri, 29 Sep 2000 10:24:34 -0400 > >Dear Sach and Krushna, > >To make it easier on both of you for your generous efforts, and to make our >understanding of these points easier and clearer, I have tried to formulate >the questions below so that you will just need to respond with a simple > " Yes " or " No " reply. I hope that's OK. ;-) > >For the timing of an event, we know that the event occurs in the sub-period >of a powerful significating planet or its samdharmi. On page 46 of the >Lessons, Figure 3, we are given some 4:10 placements for planets that are >samdharmi combinations. These are: Saturn/Venus, Mars/Moon, and Sun/Mars. > >Questions: > >1. Are these planets above the only 4:10 lord combinations that are to be >considered samdharmi?YES > >2. Are the mutable signs of Pisces, Gemini, Virgo, and Sagittarius and >their lords ever considered for samdharmi combinations with regard to the >4:10 lord combinations?NO > >3. Are the combinations of Saturn/Mars, Jupiter/Mercury, Venus/Sun, or >Moon/Venus considered samdharmi by virtue of their 4/10 placements?NOT AS >NATURAL SAMDHARMI, CAN BE IF THEY ARE IN CHART IN 4:10 COMBINATION > >4. When figuring an event such as " Longevity " , which involves a dusthana ( >8th House), does the sub-period of the powerful significating planet, or >its samdharmi, indicate the period when the " longevity " is > " threatened " ?GURU KRUSHNAJI BANNED TO ANSWER SUCH QUESTIONS, SORRY > >5. With regards to the above question, (number 4) would this same powerful >significator indicate the period when the longevity is most protected?NO >ANSWER > >6. When figuring an event such as " Disease " , which involves 6th House >significations, another dusthana house, does the sub-period of the powerful >significating planet indicate the period when disease may occur? >THERE IS A DIFFERENT WAY TO FIND WHICH DISEASE, AND TIMEING EVENT. >KRUSHNAJI WILL HANDLE THIS SUBJECT. >7. Considering the above question (number 6) involving 6th House >signification's, would the most powerful planet indicate the sub-period in >which one is protected from disease?SAME ANSWER AS ABOVE FOR 6 > >8. With regard to the dusthanas, do the " weakest " planets in their >respective sub-periods indicate the dangerous times for the native with >regards to health, losses, disease, longevity?AGAIN SORRY > >Thanks very much for any consideration of these points. > >~Namaste~ > Sandy SORRY SANDY, KRUSHNAJI HAVE BANNED ON FINDING LONGEVITY. REGARDING 6TH HOUSE AND DISEASES, IT IS A BIG CHAPTER, MORE LAWS, SO WITHOUT KNOWING ALL, ONE SHOULD NOT TRY ON THAT SUBJECT. KRUSHANAJI, MOST PROBABLY WILL BE HERE TOMARROW OR DAY AFTER TOMARROW. THANKS SACH _______________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 30, 2000 Report Share Posted September 30, 2000 Sandy, Good questions. I have just been looking at a friends chart for various things and those are in fact the very same questions I asked. I am still waiting for the replay to my previous questions so I had not posted those you bring up at this stage and now you have saved me the trouble. Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 30, 2000 Report Share Posted September 30, 2000 Sach, I note you have replied to Sandy's " Yes or No " questions but have not yet replied too mine from the previous day. Did you not get my letter. Just in case you missed it I put it below. Dear Sach, I have studied your delineation of Michelle's chart and was able to follow most of your reasoning but it did raise several questions which I would be pleased of you would clarify. 1) You say the the first anterdasa of Mars is at 10years which is too early and she matures in the anterdasa of Saturn - True but the second anterdasa is at age of 24 which is still very suitable for marriage according to western customs. In fact it is more suitable than the anterdasa of Saturn which is quite early in the wset. 2)In the Navamsa Mars is in Aries and Saturn is in Scorpio, this means that Saturn is in neither the same sign or same constellation, nor is it in a 4/10 position - it is however in a sign which is still ruled my Mars. Does this mean that in any case where one of the planets owns 2 signs the same reasoning can apply. For example if Jupiter is in Pisces and Mercury is in Sagittarius then Mercury can act as sandharni for Jupiter. Secondly does this apply in both the Rasi chart and the Navamsa or just the Navamsa. 3)You say planets in the same sign OR constellation are sandharmi. At the start of Lesson 8 (page 44) Krushna said that the two planets must be in the same sign AND the same constellation. Which is correct??. 4)You say in your delineation the Saturn is sandharmi for both Jupiter and Mercury also. I can understand Jupiter as both planets are in the same sign but I can't understand why Saturn should be sandharmi to Mercury they are not in the same sign or constellation, nor are they ina 4/10 relationship in either the Rasi or Navamsa. 5) Having decided that the marriage would take place in the Saturn sub-period how did you arrive at significators Saturn/Jupiter. I thought that usually the next 2 planets other than the sub-period planet were the first choice, In this case why not Jupiter/Mercury or even Jupiter /Mars. 6) At the start of your interpretation you said that as Saturn was with Jupiter there would be no delays. In the Saturn sub-period there are 3 Saturn/Jupiter periods why then if there are no delays due to Saturn would you choose the third of these period and not the first. >From the fact that no-one else has brought up these points I assume that they are all mopre knowledgeable than myself and I beg your indulgence of my ignorance. Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 30, 2000 Report Share Posted September 30, 2000 Dear Sach, Thanks very much for answering the questions that were acceptable for you to respond to...and I look forward to the Chapter on the 6th House. I can also understand Krushna's concerns on revealing any information for finding out the " longevity " factor in a chart, as I think that is a VERY difficult area to ascertain with any degree of certainty, and I am not at all convinced, at this point in my studies, that it can even be done accurately with any System...But as death is very much a part of life, " curiousity " in this area will continue to get the best of me. ;-) Thanks again. ~Namaste~ Sandy > SORRY SANDY, KRUSHNAJI HAVE BANNED ON FINDING LONGEVITY. REGARDING 6TH HOUSE > AND DISEASES, IT IS A BIG CHAPTER, MORE LAWS, SO WITHOUT KNOWING ALL, ONE > SHOULD NOT TRY ON THAT SUBJECT. KRUSHANAJI, MOST PROBABLY WILL BE HERE > TOMARROW OR DAY AFTER TOMARROW. > THANKS > SACH > > _______________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > http://profiles.msn.com. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 30, 2000 Report Share Posted September 30, 2000 Respected Peterji, I have replyed today again at about 9:15 pm IST, but till this time it not reached the group. My other reply sent at 10:45 reached to visti. If it not reaches tomarrow again I will reply. Sach , " Peter Sutcliffe " <petermay@s...> wrote: > Sach, > I note you have replied to Sandy's " Yes or No " questions but have not yet > replied too mine from the previous day. Did you not get my letter. Just in > case you missed it I put it below. > > Dear Sach, > I have studied your delineation of Michelle's chart and was able to follow > most of your reasoning but it did raise several questions which I would be > pleased of you would clarify. > 1) You say the the first anterdasa of Mars is at 10years which is too early > and she matures in the anterdasa of Saturn - True but the second anterdasa > is at age of 24 which is still very suitable for marriage according to > western customs. In fact it is more suitable than the anterdasa of Saturn > which is quite early in the wset. > 2)In the Navamsa Mars is in Aries and Saturn is in Scorpio, this means that > Saturn is in neither the same sign or same constellation, nor is it in a > 4/10 position - it is however in a sign which is still ruled my Mars. Does > this mean that in any case where one of the planets owns 2 signs the same > reasoning can apply. For example if Jupiter is in Pisces and Mercury is in > Sagittarius then Mercury can act as sandharni for Jupiter. Secondly does > this apply in both the Rasi chart and the Navamsa or just the Navamsa. > 3)You say planets in the same sign OR constellation are sandharmi. At the > start of Lesson 8 (page 44) Krushna said that the two planets must be in the > same sign AND the same constellation. Which is correct??. > 4)You say in your delineation the Saturn is sandharmi for both Jupiter and > Mercury also. I can understand Jupiter as both planets are in the same sign > but I can't understand why Saturn should be sandharmi to Mercury they are > not in the same sign or constellation, nor are they ina 4/10 relationship in > either the Rasi or Navamsa. > 5) Having decided that the marriage would take place in the Saturn > sub-period how did you arrive at significators Saturn/Jupiter. I thought > that usually the next 2 planets other than the sub-period planet were the > first choice, In this case why not Jupiter/Mercury or even Jupiter /Mars. > 6) At the start of your interpretation you said that as Saturn was with > Jupiter there would be no delays. In the Saturn sub-period there are 3 > Saturn/Jupiter periods why then if there are no delays due to Saturn would > you choose the third of these period and not the first. > > >From the fact that no-one else has brought up these points I assume that > they are all mopre knowledgeable than myself and I beg your indulgence of my > ignorance. > > Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 30, 2000 Report Share Posted September 30, 2000 Respected Peterji, Pranam, Sorry ,I might have missed your's. My reply is in Capital below your wuestions. > " Peter Sutcliffe " <petermay > > >Re: Yes or No Questions >Sat, 30 Sep 2000 19:10:51 +1000 > >Sach, >I note you have replied to Sandy's " Yes or No " questions but have not yet >replied too mine from the previous day. Did you not get my letter. Just in >case you missed it I put it below. > >Dear Sach, >I have studied your delineation of Michelle's chart and was able to follow >most of your reasoning but it did raise several questions which I would be >pleased of you would clarify. >1) You say the the first anterdasa of Mars is at 10years which is too early >and she matures in the anterdasa of Saturn - True but the second anterdasa >is at age of 24 which is still very suitable for marriage according to >western customs. In fact it is more suitable than the anterdasa of Saturn >which is quite early in the wset. SIR ALL PLANETS ARE FAVOURING MARRIAGE >AND ARE WITH GOOD MARKS MEANS EARLY MARRIAGE IS INDICATED. NOW THE DELAY >CAUSING PLANET IS SATURN IS WITH JUPITER, SATURN ASPECTS TWO HOUSE LORD 'A' >AND 'C' WHICH DELAY. NOW JUPITER CHECKS IT AND ALL PLANETS SHOWS EARLY >MARRIAGE SO MARRIAGE CAN BE PERFORMED AS SOON AS THE NATIVE GETS MATURED. >THE SUB OF SATURN STARTS AT THE EDGE OF 17 YEARS AND LAST UP TO HER EDGE OF >20 YEARS. NOW DELAY CAUSING SATURN HAS TO CHECK OVER BY JUPITER, BUT HE CAN >DELAY IN IT'S SUB. ( I AM FINDING IT DIFFICULT TO EXPLAIN) I MEAN TO SAY >DELAY FOR PASSING MORE SUB IS RESTRICTED, BUT DELAY IN SUB OF SATURN WILL >BE THERE. SO MARRIED IN LAST SECTION OF SATURN SUB. 2)In the Navamsa >Mars is in Aries and Saturn is in Scorpio, this means that >Saturn is in neither the same sign or same constellation, nor is it in a >4/10 position - it is however in a sign which is still ruled my Mars. Does >this mean that in any case where one of the planets owns 2 signs the same >reasoning can apply. For example if Jupiter is in Pisces and Mercury is in >Sagittarius then Mercury can act as sandharni for Jupiter. Secondly does >this apply in both the Rasi chart and the Navamsa or just the Navamsa. NO THIS IS ONLY FOR NAVAMANSHA CHART. NAVAMANSHA CHART HAVE EQUAL STATUS TO RASHI CHART. IF TWO PLANETS ARE IN SAME NAVAMANSHA OR IN THE NAVAMANSHA OF ONE PLANET THEY ARE SAMDHARMI. THIS LAW DO NOT APPLY TO RASHI CHART., >3)You say planets in the same sign OR constellation are sandharmi. At the >start of Lesson 8 (page 44) Krushna said that the two planets must be in >the >same sign AND the same constellation. Which is correct??. SOME THING DIFFICULT TO UNDERSTAND, KRUSHNAJI HAVING THE MEANING AS FALLOW: IF TWO PLANETS ARE IN ONE SIGN THEY ARE SAMDHARMI, IF TWO PLANETS ARE IN ONE CONSTELLATION THEY ARE SAMDHARMI, IF TWO PLANETS ARE IN ONE SIGN AND ALSO IN ONE CONSTELLATION THEY ARE SAMDHARM. I THINK IT IS O.K.NOW >4)You say in your delineation the Saturn is sandharmi for both Jupiter and >Mercury also. I can understand Jupiter as both planets are in the same sign >but I can't understand why Saturn should be sandharmi to Mercury they are >not in the same sign or constellation, nor are they ina 4/10 relationship >in >either the Rasi or Navamsa. HERE I WANT TO SAY THAT SATURN IS POWERFUL >SIGNIFICATOR, IT IS SAMDHARMI TO JUPITER, IT IS SAMDHARMI TO MARS BECAUSE >IT IS IN THE NAVAMANSHA OF MARS AND ALSO HAVE SIGHT OF MARS IN NAVAMANSHA >CHART. NOW MERCURY IS HAVING 4 POINTS SO IT IS ASPECTING WITH NEUTRAL >SIGHT, OR IT IS NOT OPPOSING STRONGLY, WHERE SATURN FAVOURS MERCURY. NEXT >SUB PERIOD IS OF MERCURY, SO SATURN IS GETTING FULL SUPPORT FROM MERCURY >ALSO >5) Having decided that the marriage would take place in the Saturn >sub-period how did you arrive at significators Saturn/Jupiter. I thought >that usually the next 2 planets other than the sub-period planet were the >first choice, In this case why not Jupiter/Mercury or even Jupiter /Mars. I >ARRIVED AT 4TH MARCH, BUT THE FUNCTION HELD BEFORE TIME. 6) At the start of >your interpretation you said that as Saturn was with >Jupiter there would be no delays. In the Saturn sub-period there are 3 >Saturn/Jupiter periods why then if there are no delays due to Saturn would >you choose the third of these period and not the first. THIS IS EXPLAINED >ABOVE > > >From the fact that no-one else has brought up these points I assume that >they are all mopre knowledgeable than myself and I beg your indulgence of >my >ignorance. > >Peter >REGARDS SACH > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2000 Report Share Posted October 1, 2000 Sandy, I don't know about the USA but when we take exams with the FAA in Australia we have to sign an ethics agreement to cover things like this ie we should never disclose the time of a persons death. I don't think I would want to anyway - although I am with you I am curious and would like to know that I can do it if I really wanted to. For example I have a friend who has cancer in many parts of his body. He has his bowel replaced, has to wear a nappy and in all lives a terrible life ( although he himself has been told by the doctors that he will not live very long he says to h...ll with them I won't die till I want to. I did a computer print out from Goravani of his transits for a couple of years and it said in one area " death often occurs in this period " that particular period still has just less than a year to go so I'm watching and waiting. I have not of course mentioned this to him. Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2000 Report Share Posted October 1, 2000 Thank you Sach, Your explanations were well explained and generally well understood. Only one point was, not quite clear, let em see if I can phrase it differently. Having got the Total points from line 17 in the work sheet you arrived at Saturn as the sub-period indicator due to the fact that it was sandharmi to Mars. The next stage is to decide which planets are to be used pin point more exactly the actual date of marriage. So far Krushna has said in general to use the highest point scorers which had not been used as the sub-period indicator. This means to me that we should choose Jupiter/Mercury as Saturn had already been used for indicating the sub-period (I am not sure about the use of Mars as this was the planet for which Saturn was sandharmi). Is there a definite way in which the planets to indicate more exactly the actual marriage date within the sub-period should be chosen?? Tahnk you again for the other explanations. Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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