Guest guest Posted November 22, 2000 Report Share Posted November 22, 2000 Respected Krushnaji, On the basis of your previous lessons, please advise if the understanding is correct. Case - Jupiter is in the 7th house with 5 points and Saturn is in the 10th house with 2 points. Conclusions: a. Saturn aspects Jupiter benefically so in any matter where Jupiter is the significator, there would be delays but the result would be beneficial. b. Saturn is the 4th from Jupiter but it has less than 4 points and it also has less points than Jupiter. So Saturn will tend to block matters connected with Jupiter. This blocking would be more significant in houses where Saturn has less than 12 points in the worksheet. In houses where it has 12 points or more, the blocking would be only mild. c. What would be the result of the blocking. If Jupiter has more than 12 points in a house, would it be prevented from giving the good result because it is being checked by Saturn? Similarly, would it be prevented from giving bad results if it has less than 12 points? I would tend to think that the aspect of Saturn would tend to delay the matters signified by Jupiter but will be positive where Jupiter has more than 12 points. At the same time, Saturn will protect from the bad results of Jupiter where Jupiter has less than 12 points. However, this power of Saturn to protect would be only where Saturn has more than 12 points in the sheet. If Saturn has less than 12 points, it would not be able to reduce the bad impact of Jupiter. Please advise if the above understanding is correct. Please also advise how would the above matters be affected if Saturn and Jupiter turn out to be Samdharmi because of some reason? Kind regards Sanjay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 25, 2000 Report Share Posted November 25, 2000 Dear Sanjay, Again here also you are making some confusion. >> Delays caused by Saturn - Checking >>affect of Jupiter >Thu, 23 Nov 2000 12:51:50 +0700 > >Respected Krushnaji, > >On the basis of your previous lessons, please advise if the understanding >is >correct. > >Case - Jupiter is in the 7th house with 5 points and Saturn is in the 10th >house with 2 points. > >Conclusions: > >a. Saturn aspects Jupiter benefically THIS IS CORRECT, so in any matter where Jupiter is the >significator, there would be delays but the result would be beneficial. >THIS IS WRONG. > >b. Saturn is the 4th from Jupiter but it has less than 4 points and it also >has less points than Jupiter. So Saturn will tend to block matters >connected >with Jupiter. WRONG STATEMENT. This blocking would be more significant in >houses where Saturn >has less than 12 points in the worksheet. WRONG STATEMENT In houses where >it has 12 points >or more, the blocking would be only mild. WRONG . > >c. What would be the result of the blocking. If Jupiter has more than 12 >points in a house, would it be prevented from giving the good result >because WRONG it is being checked by Saturn? Similarly, would it be >prevented from giving >bad results if it has less than 12 points? I would tend to think that the >aspect of Saturn would tend to delay the matters signified by Jupiter but >will be positive where Jupiter has more than 12 points. WRONG At the same >time, >Saturn will protect from the bad results of Jupiter where Jupiter has less >than 12 points. However, this power of Saturn to protect would be only >where >Saturn has more than 12 points in the sheet. If Saturn has less than 12 >points, it would not be able to reduce the bad impact of Jupiter. > >Please advise if the above understanding is correct. Please also advise how >would the above matters be affected if Saturn and Jupiter turn out to be >Samdharmi because of some reason? ALL THIS IS WRONG. THE DELAY DUE TO SATURN IS FOR THE HOUSE, AND THAT TOO WHEN IT ASPECTS HOUSE 'A','B', AND 'C' OR THEIR LORDS. THE RESULT PERTAINING TO HOUSE 'B' IS DELAYED. NO EFFECF FOR THE PLANETS OR THEIR RESULTS. IF SATURN ASPECTING 'A','B' AND 'C' HOUSES AND AT THE SAME TIME SATURN IS ASPECTED BY JUPITER, THEN THE DELAY IS MODERATED. MEANS REDUCED. THERE IS NO EFFECT ON THE RESULT OF JUPITER. KRUSHNA > >Kind regards >Sanjay > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 28, 2000 Report Share Posted November 28, 2000 Respected Krushnaji, I need some clarifications. I am mentioning the points under your reply. Please try to explain. Sorry for my slow comprehension. Kind regards Sanjay - " krushna kalani J.K. " <krushanain Saturday, November 25, 2000 5:00 PM Re: Delays caused by Saturn - Checking affect of Jupiter Dear Sanjay, Again here also you are making some confusion. >> Delays caused by Saturn - Checking >>affect of Jupiter >Thu, 23 Nov 2000 12:51:50 +0700 > >Respected Krushnaji, > >On the basis of your previous lessons, please advise if the understanding >is >correct. > >Case - Jupiter is in the 7th house with 5 points and Saturn is in the 10th >house with 2 points. > >Conclusions: > >a. Saturn aspects Jupiter benefically THIS IS CORRECT, so in any matter where Jupiter is the >significator, there would be delays but the result would be beneficial. >THIS IS WRONG. I see. So the delay would only happen if Jupiter is the lord of one of the houses A B or C for the matter under consideration? > >b. Saturn is the 4th from Jupiter but it has less than 4 points and it also >has less points than Jupiter. So Saturn will tend to block matters >connected >with Jupiter. WRONG STATEMENT. You had mentioned in one of your lessons that planet X in the 4th house from planet Y is good if X has more points than Y. X can then help give the result for Y. You also said that if Y has more points, then X will block the results unless it has12 or more points in the master sheet for that house. So please advise why is this statement wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2000 Report Share Posted December 3, 2000 Respected Krushnaji, I would appreciate your reply. Kind regards Sanjay - " Sanjay Jaggia " <sanjaygg Wednesday, November 29, 2000 2:47 PM Re: Delays caused by Saturn - Checking affect of Jupiter Respected Krushnaji, I need some clarifications. I am mentioning the points under your reply. Please try to explain. Sorry for my slow comprehension. Kind regards Sanjay - " krushna kalani J.K. " <krushanain Saturday, November 25, 2000 5:00 PM Re: Delays caused by Saturn - Checking affect of Jupiter Dear Sanjay, Again here also you are making some confusion. >> Delays caused by Saturn - Checking >>affect of Jupiter >Thu, 23 Nov 2000 12:51:50 +0700 > >Respected Krushnaji, > >On the basis of your previous lessons, please advise if the understanding >is >correct. > >Case - Jupiter is in the 7th house with 5 points and Saturn is in the 10th >house with 2 points. > >Conclusions: > >a. Saturn aspects Jupiter benefically THIS IS CORRECT, so in any matter where Jupiter is the >significator, there would be delays but the result would be beneficial. >THIS IS WRONG. I see. So the delay would only happen if Jupiter is the lord of one of the houses A B or C for the matter under consideration? > >b. Saturn is the 4th from Jupiter but it has less than 4 points and it also >has less points than Jupiter. So Saturn will tend to block matters >connected >with Jupiter. WRONG STATEMENT. You had mentioned in one of your lessons that planet X in the 4th house from planet Y is good if X has more points than Y. X can then help give the result for Y. You also said that if Y has more points, then X will block the results unless it has12 or more points in the master sheet for that house. So please advise why is this statement wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2000 Report Share Posted December 4, 2000 Dear Sanjay, This thing I think I have explained earlier also. For clarification Assume the planet in 10th house from any planet as Boss, and the planet in fourth house as suborinate. Also assume the planet with more point as kind man, and with less point as strick and having more hold. So the suborinate with more points will have fear of the boss ( with less points) So it will obay the boss. On the contrary if the boss is mild, do not take any strick action, means a planet with more point, if subordinate is with less point, may neglect the boss, and will due some thing, for which he can show reasons, and that to deliberately. He will try to take the benefit of the mildness of the boss. He may not do any work in favour of boss. He may creat some trouble. Please think in this way I hope you will get the idea. thanks krushna > " Sanjay Jaggia " <sanjaygg > > " krushna Jugal Kalani " <krushanain >CC: >Fw: Delays caused by Saturn - Checking >affect of Jupiter >Mon, 4 Dec 2000 13:10:43 +0700 > >Respected Krushnaji, > >I would appreciate your reply. > >Kind regards >Sanjay > >- > " Sanjay Jaggia " <sanjaygg > >Wednesday, November 29, 2000 2:47 PM >Re: Delays caused by Saturn - Checking >affect of Jupiter > > >Respected Krushnaji, > >I need some clarifications. I am mentioning the points under your reply. >Please try to explain. Sorry for my slow comprehension. > >Kind regards >Sanjay > > > >- > " krushna kalani J.K. " <krushanain > >Saturday, November 25, 2000 5:00 PM >Re: Delays caused by Saturn - Checking >affect of Jupiter > > >Dear Sanjay, > Again here also you are making some confusion. > > > >> Delays caused by Saturn - Checking > >>affect of Jupiter > >Thu, 23 Nov 2000 12:51:50 +0700 > > > >Respected Krushnaji, > > > >On the basis of your previous lessons, please advise if the understanding > >is > >correct. > > > >Case - Jupiter is in the 7th house with 5 points and Saturn is in the >10th > >house with 2 points. > > > >Conclusions: > > > >a. Saturn aspects Jupiter benefically THIS IS CORRECT, >so in any matter where Jupiter is the > >significator, there would be delays but the result would be beneficial. > >THIS IS WRONG. > >I see. So the delay would only happen if Jupiter is the lord of one of the >houses A B or C for the matter under consideration? > > > > >b. Saturn is the 4th from Jupiter but it has less than 4 points and it >also > >has less points than Jupiter. So Saturn will tend to block matters > >connected > >with Jupiter. WRONG STATEMENT. > >You had mentioned in one of your lessons that planet X in the 4th house >from >planet Y is good if X has more points than Y. X can then help give the >result for Y. You also said that if Y has more points, then X will block >the >results unless it has12 or more points in the master sheet for that house. >So please advise why is this statement wrong. > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2000 Report Share Posted December 4, 2000 Respected Krushnaji, Thank you for your reply. I understand now that the statement about blocking the result in one of your earlier lessons has to be understood differently to eliminate the apparent contradiction. The boss-subordinate analogy is very clear. Kind regards PS - Can we now start discussing some cases on the list so that the finer points are more clearly understood. - " krushna kalani J.K. " <krushanain Monday, December 04, 2000 8:18 PM Re: Fw: Delays caused by Saturn - Checking affect of Jupiter Dear Sanjay, This thing I think I have explained earlier also. For clarification Assume the planet in 10th house from any planet as Boss, and the planet in fourth house as suborinate. Also assume the planet with more point as kind man, and with less point as strick and having more hold. So the suborinate with more points will have fear of the boss ( with less points) So it will obay the boss. On the contrary if the boss is mild, do not take any strick action, means a planet with more point, if subordinate is with less point, may neglect the boss, and will due some thing, for which he can show reasons, and that to deliberately. He will try to take the benefit of the mildness of the boss. He may not do any work in favour of boss. He may creat some trouble. Please think in this way I hope you will get the idea. thanks krushna > " Sanjay Jaggia " <sanjaygg > > " krushna Jugal Kalani " <krushanain >CC: >Fw: Delays caused by Saturn - Checking >affect of Jupiter >Mon, 4 Dec 2000 13:10:43 +0700 > >Respected Krushnaji, > >I would appreciate your reply. > >Kind regards >Sanjay > >- > " Sanjay Jaggia " <sanjaygg > >Wednesday, November 29, 2000 2:47 PM >Re: Delays caused by Saturn - Checking >affect of Jupiter > > >Respected Krushnaji, > >I need some clarifications. I am mentioning the points under your reply. >Please try to explain. Sorry for my slow comprehension. > >Kind regards >Sanjay > > > >- > " krushna kalani J.K. " <krushanain > >Saturday, November 25, 2000 5:00 PM >Re: Delays caused by Saturn - Checking >affect of Jupiter > > >Dear Sanjay, > Again here also you are making some confusion. > > > >> Delays caused by Saturn - Checking > >>affect of Jupiter > >Thu, 23 Nov 2000 12:51:50 +0700 > > > >Respected Krushnaji, > > > >On the basis of your previous lessons, please advise if the understanding > >is > >correct. > > > >Case - Jupiter is in the 7th house with 5 points and Saturn is in the >10th > >house with 2 points. > > > >Conclusions: > > > >a. Saturn aspects Jupiter benefically THIS IS CORRECT, >so in any matter where Jupiter is the > >significator, there would be delays but the result would be beneficial. > >THIS IS WRONG. > >I see. So the delay would only happen if Jupiter is the lord of one of the >houses A B or C for the matter under consideration? > > > > >b. Saturn is the 4th from Jupiter but it has less than 4 points and it >also > >has less points than Jupiter. So Saturn will tend to block matters > >connected > >with Jupiter. WRONG STATEMENT. > >You had mentioned in one of your lessons that planet X in the 4th house >from >planet Y is good if X has more points than Y. X can then help give the >result for Y. You also said that if Y has more points, then X will block >the >results unless it has12 or more points in the master sheet for that house. >So please advise why is this statement wrong. > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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