Guest guest Posted December 8, 2000 Report Share Posted December 8, 2000 Dear List members, Here I am giving all the events of the life of the native. He born in Rahu Main period, and Saturn Sub Period. Other details about nativity already given. 1. 1st March 1941 his father died Dasha Rahu sub Venus. 2. 17th Jan 1952 his mother died in a accident Jupiter main, Saturn sub. 3. 2nd March 1954. Enlisted in British army Jupiter main Mercury Sub 4. 15th March 1954 Left home to go for training.... do....... 5. 18th Aug. 1954 left of Ship for posting in Singapur Jupiter main Ketu Sub ( ketu represents Mercury and Jupiter) 6. May 1956 promoted to sgt and posted to Kuala Jupiter main Venus Sub 7. 1st Oct 1956 promoted to S/Sgt Jupiter/ Venus 8. Nov 1957 Holiday in Japan 9. 12th Aug 1958 Flew back to England.. Jupiter/ Sun 10 27th Oct 1958 Posted to Rheindhalen Germany Jupiter Sun 11. 23rd Feb 1960 Engaged to be marry Jupi/ Moon 12 7th Oct 1960 Married Jupiter /Mars 13. 16th Dec 1960 Flew to Malaya and promated Warrant Officer 2 Jupiter Mars 14. 8th Feb 1962 1st daughter born Jupiter/ Rahu 15. 11th Jun 1963 Son born Jupiter / Rahu 16. 5th Nov 1963 back to England Saturn / Saturn 17. 18th Feb 1964 postated in Germany Saturn / Saturn 18. Aug 1964 had problem with Commanding Officer, He appealed and won the case Saturn / Saturn 19 Oct 1964 decided to leave the army Saturn / Saturn 20 4th March 1966 Left Army Saturn / Saturn 21 13th March 1966 Official Discharge Saturn / Saturn 22 Jan 1966 bought a house and renovated Saturn/Saturn 23 March 1967 Started one year cource of instrument mechanics Saturn Mercury 24 17th Nov 1967 bought 2nd house and sold first one Saturn / Mercury 25 6th May 1969 Left ear operated, totally deaf in that ear Saturn / Ketu 26 Jan 1970 Started Selling life insurance Saturn Ketu 27 22nd May 1970 1st sale in Property ( 1st sale and start a new carrier in saling ) Saturn Ketu 28 4th March 1971 2nd Son born Saturn / Venus 29 31st Oct 1971 emigrated to Australiya Saturn / Venus 30 7th March 1972 Bought house Saturn Venus 31 6th January 1979 Wife left home, leaving children with him Saturn/ Rahu 32 18th Jan 1980 Wife returned home Saturn / Rahu ( 33 4th March 1980 started a budiness in partenership, went wrong Saturn Jupiter 34 20th July 1982 opened his video stores Saturn / Jupiter ending 35 16th Feb 1984 Store robbed ( he says it was good for him, because selling insurance was better then business ) Mercury / Mercury 36. 5th June 1984 operated for hernia Mercury / Mercury 37 15th March 1985 started working with Major Insurance co. Very Successful, won awards and good income Mercury /Ketu 38 20th July 1990 trip to Greece and Egypt as Award Mercury / Moon 39 7th Jan 1994 Operated Cyst on Back Mercury Rahu 40 23rd Sept 1997 Operation circumcision Mercury / Saturn 41 2nd Sept 2000 Suffered hernia injury in London Ketu / Venus 42 10th Nov 2000 Hernia Operation right side Ketu Venus He is of reserved nature. Faced more health problems in middle age. When he was child he suffered due to asthma. He have low blood sugar, easily managable by proper diet. This is all about the native of the chart. krushna 09 Dec 2000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2000 Report Share Posted December 9, 2000 On Fri, 08 Dec 2000 19:21:28 -0000, you wrote: Dear Krushna, (and List Members,) Thank you for the rectification I hope the case study will be valuable to all members. Running through the events there are a couple of typographical errors I would like to correct. The trip to Greece and Egypt took place from 10th April 1988 to 15th May 1998 NOT 20th July 1990 as shown. The trip on the 20th July 1990 was to Hong Kong from where I returned on 6th Sep 1990. The operation for circumcision was 23rd Sep 1977 NOT 1997 as shown. Sorry about these errors, but I don't think they affect the outcomes so far discussed. Ron Gaunt >Dear List members, > Here I am giving all the events of the life of the native. >He born in Rahu Main period, and Saturn Sub Period. Other details >about nativity already given. >1. 1st March 1941 his father died Dasha Rahu sub Venus. >2. 17th Jan 1952 his mother died in a accident Jupiter main, Saturn >sub. >3. 2nd March 1954. Enlisted in British army Jupiter main Mercury Sub >4. 15th March 1954 Left home to go for training.... do....... >5. 18th Aug. 1954 left of Ship for posting in Singapur Jupiter main >Ketu Sub ( ketu represents Mercury and Jupiter) >6. May 1956 promoted to sgt and posted to Kuala Jupiter main Venus Sub >7. 1st Oct 1956 promoted to S/Sgt Jupiter/ Venus >8. Nov 1957 Holiday in Japan >9. 12th Aug 1958 Flew back to England.. Jupiter/ Sun >10 27th Oct 1958 Posted to Rheindhalen Germany Jupiter Sun >11. 23rd Feb 1960 Engaged to be marry Jupi/ Moon >12 7th Oct 1960 Married Jupiter /Mars >13. 16th Dec 1960 Flew to Malaya and promated Warrant Officer 2 >Jupiter Mars >14. 8th Feb 1962 1st daughter born Jupiter/ Rahu >15. 11th Jun 1963 Son born Jupiter / Rahu >16. 5th Nov 1963 back to England Saturn / Saturn >17. 18th Feb 1964 postated in Germany Saturn / Saturn >18. Aug 1964 had problem with Commanding Officer, He appealed and won >the case Saturn / Saturn >19 Oct 1964 decided to leave the army Saturn / Saturn >20 4th March 1966 Left Army Saturn / Saturn >21 13th March 1966 Official Discharge Saturn / Saturn >22 Jan 1966 bought a house and renovated Saturn/Saturn >23 March 1967 Started one year cource of instrument mechanics Saturn >Mercury >24 17th Nov 1967 bought 2nd house and sold first one Saturn / Mercury >25 6th May 1969 Left ear operated, totally deaf in that ear Saturn / >Ketu >26 Jan 1970 Started Selling life insurance Saturn Ketu >27 22nd May 1970 1st sale in Property ( 1st sale and start a new >carrier in saling ) Saturn Ketu >28 4th March 1971 2nd Son born Saturn / Venus >29 31st Oct 1971 emigrated to Australiya Saturn / Venus >30 7th March 1972 Bought house Saturn Venus >31 6th January 1979 Wife left home, leaving children with him Saturn/ >Rahu >32 18th Jan 1980 Wife returned home Saturn / Rahu ( >33 4th March 1980 started a budiness in partenership, went wrong >Saturn Jupiter >34 20th July 1982 opened his video stores Saturn / Jupiter ending >35 16th Feb 1984 Store robbed ( he says it was good for him, because >selling insurance was better then business ) Mercury / Mercury >36. 5th June 1984 operated for hernia Mercury / Mercury >37 15th March 1985 started working with Major Insurance co. Very >Successful, won awards and good income Mercury /Ketu >38 20th July 1990 trip to Greece and Egypt as Award Mercury / Moon >39 7th Jan 1994 Operated Cyst on Back Mercury Rahu >40 23rd Sept 1997 Operation circumcision Mercury / Saturn >41 2nd Sept 2000 Suffered hernia injury in London Ketu / Venus >42 10th Nov 2000 Hernia Operation right side Ketu Venus > > He is of reserved nature. Faced more health problems in >middle age. When he was child he suffered due to asthma. He have low >blood sugar, easily managable by proper diet. > >This is all about the native of the chart. >krushna 09 Dec 2000 > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2000 Report Share Posted December 12, 2000 Dear Ron Gaunt, Pranam, Thank you very much, for giving the correction in the events. I think there is a typo in date of your Greece and Egypt trip. I think you must have return on 15th May 1988. ( You have typed 1998) Your chart is very useful for the study of the members. I must thank you for giving the permission to use in the group. Thanks, krushna , Ron Gaunt <arjee@G...> wrote: > On Fri, 08 Dec 2000 19:21:28 -0000, you wrote: > > Dear Krushna, (and List Members,) > > Thank you for the rectification I hope the case study will be > valuable to all members. > > Running through the events there are a couple of typographical > errors I would like to correct. > > The trip to Greece and Egypt took place from 10th April 1988 to > 15th May 1998 NOT 20th July 1990 as shown. > The trip on the 20th July 1990 was to Hong Kong from where I > returned on 6th Sep 1990. > > The operation for circumcision was 23rd Sep 1977 NOT 1997 > as shown. Sorry about these errors, but I don't think they > affect the outcomes so far discussed. > > > Ron Gaunt > > > >Dear List members, > > Here I am giving all the events of the life of the native. > >He born in Rahu Main period, and Saturn Sub Period. Other details > >about nativity already given. > >1. 1st March 1941 his father died Dasha Rahu sub Venus. > >2. 17th Jan 1952 his mother died in a accident Jupiter main, Saturn > >sub. > >3. 2nd March 1954. Enlisted in British army Jupiter main Mercury Sub > >4. 15th March 1954 Left home to go for training.... do....... > >5. 18th Aug. 1954 left of Ship for posting in Singapur Jupiter main > >Ketu Sub ( ketu represents Mercury and Jupiter) > >6. May 1956 promoted to sgt and posted to Kuala Jupiter main Venus Sub > >7. 1st Oct 1956 promoted to S/Sgt Jupiter/ Venus > >8. Nov 1957 Holiday in Japan > >9. 12th Aug 1958 Flew back to England.. Jupiter/ Sun > >10 27th Oct 1958 Posted to Rheindhalen Germany Jupiter Sun > >11. 23rd Feb 1960 Engaged to be marry Jupi/ Moon > >12 7th Oct 1960 Married Jupiter /Mars > >13. 16th Dec 1960 Flew to Malaya and promated Warrant Officer 2 > >Jupiter Mars > >14. 8th Feb 1962 1st daughter born Jupiter/ Rahu > >15. 11th Jun 1963 Son born Jupiter / Rahu > >16. 5th Nov 1963 back to England Saturn / Saturn > >17. 18th Feb 1964 postated in Germany Saturn / Saturn > >18. Aug 1964 had problem with Commanding Officer, He appealed and won > >the case Saturn / Saturn > >19 Oct 1964 decided to leave the army Saturn / Saturn > >20 4th March 1966 Left Army Saturn / Saturn > >21 13th March 1966 Official Discharge Saturn / Saturn > >22 Jan 1966 bought a house and renovated Saturn/Saturn > >23 March 1967 Started one year cource of instrument mechanics Saturn > >Mercury > >24 17th Nov 1967 bought 2nd house and sold first one Saturn / Mercury > >25 6th May 1969 Left ear operated, totally deaf in that ear Saturn / > >Ketu > >26 Jan 1970 Started Selling life insurance Saturn Ketu > >27 22nd May 1970 1st sale in Property ( 1st sale and start a new > >carrier in saling ) Saturn Ketu > >28 4th March 1971 2nd Son born Saturn / Venus > >29 31st Oct 1971 emigrated to Australiya Saturn / Venus > >30 7th March 1972 Bought house Saturn Venus > >31 6th January 1979 Wife left home, leaving children with him Saturn/ > >Rahu > >32 18th Jan 1980 Wife returned home Saturn / Rahu ( > >33 4th March 1980 started a budiness in partenership, went wrong > >Saturn Jupiter > >34 20th July 1982 opened his video stores Saturn / Jupiter ending > >35 16th Feb 1984 Store robbed ( he says it was good for him, because > >selling insurance was better then business ) Mercury / Mercury > >36. 5th June 1984 operated for hernia Mercury / Mercury > >37 15th March 1985 started working with Major Insurance co. Very > >Successful, won awards and good income Mercury /Ketu > >38 20th July 1990 trip to Greece and Egypt as Award Mercury / Moon > >39 7th Jan 1994 Operated Cyst on Back Mercury Rahu > >40 23rd Sept 1997 Operation circumcision Mercury / Saturn > >41 2nd Sept 2000 Suffered hernia injury in London Ketu / Venus > >42 10th Nov 2000 Hernia Operation right side Ketu Venus > > > > He is of reserved nature. Faced more health problems in > >middle age. When he was child he suffered due to asthma. He have low > >blood sugar, easily managable by proper diet. > > > >This is all about the native of the chart. > >krushna 09 Dec 2000 > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2000 Report Share Posted December 12, 2000 On Tue, 12 Dec 2000 18:22:28 -0000, you wrote: Dear Krushna (and List Members) What can I say yet another typo error! Yes the return was in May 88 NOT 98. As members are studying the chart at present they may be interested to check out this predilection for mistakes at the moment. Until recently I have always been meticulous in getting things correct. In fact I earned accelerated promotion in the Army in the clerical area due to being considered very efficient. In the last few days I have misspelled my telephone number and zip code on documents - something I have never done before. Of course this may be simply the normal process of growing older; however, yesterday 12th December another unusual thing occurred. For the first time in my life I was issued with Court documents as Defendant in a case where I as a salesman had sold a property to someone for a Developer. It is a totally inept summons in that the Plaintiff's solicitor has shown me as being employed by an Investment Group who I have never been employed by. There are other things wrong with the Plaint. The Investment Group were instrumental in most of the sales in the particular building and a class action is being taken against them. So it looks as though I have been roped in for the sins of others. However, no doubt I will be required to defend myself with all the high legal costs associated with such an action. Unfortunately, Australia is following the USA model of sue anyone anywhere - now that the legal fraternity are offering no result no fee practice. Ron Gaunt >Dear Ron Gaunt, >Pranam, > Thank you very much, for giving the correction in the events. I >think there is a typo in date of your Greece and Egypt trip. I think >you must have return on 15th May 1988. ( You have typed 1998) > Your chart is very useful for the study of the members. I must >thank you for giving the permission to use in the group. >Thanks, >krushna > > > , Ron Gaunt <arjee@G...> >wrote: >> On Fri, 08 Dec 2000 19:21:28 -0000, you wrote: >> >> Dear Krushna, (and List Members,) >> >> Thank you for the rectification I hope the case study will be >> valuable to all members. >> >> Running through the events there are a couple of typographical >> errors I would like to correct. >> >> The trip to Greece and Egypt took place from 10th April 1988 to >> 15th May 1998 NOT 20th July 1990 as shown. >> The trip on the 20th July 1990 was to Hong Kong from where I >> returned on 6th Sep 1990. >> >> The operation for circumcision was 23rd Sep 1977 NOT 1997 >> as shown. Sorry about these errors, but I don't think they >> affect the outcomes so far discussed. >> >> >> Ron Gaunt >> >> >> >Dear List members, >> > Here I am giving all the events of the life of the native. >> >He born in Rahu Main period, and Saturn Sub Period. Other details >> >about nativity already given. >> >1. 1st March 1941 his father died Dasha Rahu sub Venus. >> >2. 17th Jan 1952 his mother died in a accident Jupiter main, >Saturn >> >sub. >> >3. 2nd March 1954. Enlisted in British army Jupiter main Mercury >Sub >> >4. 15th March 1954 Left home to go for training.... do....... >> >5. 18th Aug. 1954 left of Ship for posting in Singapur Jupiter >main >> >Ketu Sub ( ketu represents Mercury and Jupiter) >> >6. May 1956 promoted to sgt and posted to Kuala Jupiter main Venus >Sub >> >7. 1st Oct 1956 promoted to S/Sgt Jupiter/ Venus >> >8. Nov 1957 Holiday in Japan >> >9. 12th Aug 1958 Flew back to England.. Jupiter/ Sun >> >10 27th Oct 1958 Posted to Rheindhalen Germany Jupiter Sun >> >11. 23rd Feb 1960 Engaged to be marry Jupi/ Moon >> >12 7th Oct 1960 Married Jupiter /Mars >> >13. 16th Dec 1960 Flew to Malaya and promated Warrant Officer 2 >> >Jupiter Mars >> >14. 8th Feb 1962 1st daughter born Jupiter/ Rahu >> >15. 11th Jun 1963 Son born Jupiter / Rahu >> >16. 5th Nov 1963 back to England Saturn / Saturn >> >17. 18th Feb 1964 postated in Germany Saturn / Saturn >> >18. Aug 1964 had problem with Commanding Officer, He appealed and >won >> >the case Saturn / Saturn >> >19 Oct 1964 decided to leave the army Saturn / Saturn >> >20 4th March 1966 Left Army Saturn / Saturn >> >21 13th March 1966 Official Discharge Saturn / Saturn >> >22 Jan 1966 bought a house and renovated Saturn/Saturn >> >23 March 1967 Started one year cource of instrument mechanics >Saturn >> >Mercury >> >24 17th Nov 1967 bought 2nd house and sold first one Saturn / >Mercury >> >25 6th May 1969 Left ear operated, totally deaf in that ear >Saturn / >> >Ketu >> >26 Jan 1970 Started Selling life insurance Saturn Ketu >> >27 22nd May 1970 1st sale in Property ( 1st sale and start a new >> >carrier in saling ) Saturn Ketu >> >28 4th March 1971 2nd Son born Saturn / Venus >> >29 31st Oct 1971 emigrated to Australiya Saturn / Venus >> >30 7th March 1972 Bought house Saturn Venus >> >31 6th January 1979 Wife left home, leaving children with him >Saturn/ >> >Rahu >> >32 18th Jan 1980 Wife returned home Saturn / Rahu ( >> >33 4th March 1980 started a budiness in partenership, went wrong >> >Saturn Jupiter >> >34 20th July 1982 opened his video stores Saturn / Jupiter ending >> >35 16th Feb 1984 Store robbed ( he says it was good for him, >because >> >selling insurance was better then business ) Mercury / Mercury >> >36. 5th June 1984 operated for hernia Mercury / Mercury >> >37 15th March 1985 started working with Major Insurance co. Very >> >Successful, won awards and good income Mercury /Ketu >> >38 20th July 1990 trip to Greece and Egypt as Award Mercury / Moon >> >39 7th Jan 1994 Operated Cyst on Back Mercury Rahu >> >40 23rd Sept 1997 Operation circumcision Mercury / Saturn >> >41 2nd Sept 2000 Suffered hernia injury in London Ketu / Venus >> >42 10th Nov 2000 Hernia Operation right side Ketu Venus >> > >> > He is of reserved nature. Faced more health problems in >> >middle age. When he was child he suffered due to asthma. He have >low >> >blood sugar, easily managable by proper diet. >> > >> >This is all about the native of the chart. >> >krushna 09 Dec 2000 >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2000 Report Share Posted December 12, 2000 Respected Krushna, I took your advice and have been cl;osely studying the analysis of the deaths of Ron's father and mother as given by Margarita. I found it to good solid astrology but I was surprised with one omission - no mention of the worksheet. When I joined the list I was under the impression that the sub periods of all events could be predicted by the use of the worksheet and the final points as given in Row 17. As the worksheet was not mentioned I had a look at the worksheets involved to see if the points of the planets could be matched by the actual event dates. In the Rasi chart of the native the points in row 17 were: Sa = 41 Ve = 18 Me = 26 Ma = 13 Ju = 24 Mo = 8 Su = 21 As the sub-period when the first event (death of father) took place was Venus I was unable to connect this to the points as given above. Perhaps you can help? I then used the 9th house as the Lagna and using the worksheet again got the total points for row 17 as below; Ju = 28 Sa = 15 Su = 21 Ma = 18 Ve = 21 Mo = 14 Me = 20 In this case as Ju has site on house C I could use Ve as a sandharmi for Ju and the Ve sub - period was correct for the event Looking next at the second event - the death of the mother. In this case the planet with the highest points is Saturn which is in fact the sub-period concerned. Unfortunately Sa also aspects Houses A, B, and C so that Sa should be disqualified. I am not sure but I believe that as Sa is lord of house D it would encourage the significations of house B ( in this case the 8th house) and therefore can act as significator for the event. One point of note is that Ron hardly knew his father so his death was not very significant whereas the death of his mother was very significant and could be expected to show in the Rasi chart. I would be pleased to have your comments respected Krushna on the above points. Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2000 Report Share Posted December 13, 2000 respected peterji, Pranam, Sorry sir, some where you are making mistake. The selection of the house for any instant is very important. Margarita, selected correct houses. For death of any person We should refer 8th house as 'B' so third house becomes 'A' , and 12th house becomes 'C'. Now suppose we are considering the death of the father, from the native's chart. In this case father is denoted by 9th house. So for his death, considering 9th house as ascendent, we should select 11th house (3rd from 9th) of the native as house 'A', fourth house (8th from 9th) as 'B' and 8th house (12th from 9th) as 'C'. similarly 1st as 'D' and 9th as 'E'. If you calculate the points taking this combination, you will find Sun = 15, Moon = 14, Mars =12,Mer.=23, Jupiter = 31, Venus = 23, Saturn = 17. Here in this case Venus is with 4 points in house D. so it is treated as nuetral. Jupiter is in fourth house from Venus, or Venus is in 10th house from Jupiter. So it may take points from Jupiter, or May not take points from Jupiter. If we add points of Jupiter Venus gets 32 points in row 17. Or other wise it will have 23 points. The jupiter gets hightest points = 31. So either Jupiteror Venus can give suffering to the father of the native. Now Jupiter is having sight on house C. Now he Samdharmi to Jupiter =Venus or Saturn or Rahu may give the result. We also know that the Venus is natural samdharmi to Saturn. There is no wonder, Venus given the result. The house selected by you for the death of mother are also wrong. Please check it. Sir, Due to practice, I do not require to write the worksheet. At a galnce I can judge the powerful significator. This is due to practice. To confirm the same, for study purpose, I left it to the members to calculate the worksheet. Selection of the house is very important. Please try for each and every instance, you will find every instance in line. This way you will come to know, effect of all the planets, action of Samdharmi, exchange of the planets etc etc , and so many things. With more and more practice, you will also be able to judge the strength of the planets, only looking at the astakvarg table and the chart. with regards Krushna > " Peter Sutcliffe " <petermay > > >Re: Re: Complete study of a chart cont >3. >Wed, 13 Dec 2000 16:57:13 +1000 > >Respected Krushna, >I took your advice and have been cl;osely studying the analysis of the >deaths of Ron's father and mother as given by Margarita. I found it to good >solid astrology but I was surprised with one omission - no mention of the >worksheet. >When I joined the list I was under the impression that the sub periods of >all events could be predicted by the use of the worksheet and the final >points as given in Row 17. As the worksheet was not mentioned I had a look >at the worksheets involved to see if the points of the planets could be >matched by the actual event dates. >In the Rasi chart of the native the points in row 17 were: >Sa = 41 Ve = 18 >Me = 26 Ma = 13 >Ju = 24 Mo = 8 >Su = 21 > >As the sub-period when the first event (death of father) took place was >Venus I was unable to connect this to the points as given above. Perhaps >you >can help? >I then used the 9th house as the Lagna and using the worksheet again got >the >total points for row 17 as below; >Ju = 28 Sa = 15 >Su = 21 Ma = 18 >Ve = 21 Mo = 14 >Me = 20 >In this case as Ju has site on house C I could use Ve as a sandharmi for Ju >and the Ve sub - period was correct for the event >Looking next at the second event - the death of the mother. In this case >the >planet with the highest points is Saturn which is in fact the sub-period >concerned. Unfortunately Sa also aspects Houses A, B, and C so that Sa >should be disqualified. I am not sure but I believe that as Sa is lord of >house D it would encourage the significations of house B ( in this case the >8th house) and therefore can act as significator for the event. >One point of note is that Ron hardly knew his father so his death was not >very significant whereas the death of his mother was very significant and >could be expected to show in the Rasi chart. >I would be pleased to have your comments respected Krushna on the above >points. > >Peter > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2000 Report Share Posted December 13, 2000 Respected Krushnaji, From this I notice another principle. It does not have to be a direct samdharmi to be able to give the result. The samdharmi of a samdharmi can also give the result. But does this not end up in justifying almost any event as you can relate all planets in this way? Kind regards Sanjay - " krushna kalani J.K. " <krushanain Wednesday, December 13, 2000 9:39 PM Re: Re: Complete study of a chart cont 3. respected peterji, Pranam, Sorry sir, some where you are making mistake. The selection of the house for any instant is very important. Margarita, selected correct houses. For death of any person We should refer 8th house as 'B' so third house becomes 'A' , and 12th house becomes 'C'. Now suppose we are considering the death of the father, from the native's chart. In this case father is denoted by 9th house. So for his death, considering 9th house as ascendent, we should select 11th house (3rd from 9th) of the native as house 'A', fourth house (8th from 9th) as 'B' and 8th house (12th from 9th) as 'C'. similarly 1st as 'D' and 9th as 'E'. If you calculate the points taking this combination, you will find Sun = 15, Moon = 14, Mars =12,Mer.=23, Jupiter = 31, Venus = 23, Saturn = 17. Here in this case Venus is with 4 points in house D. so it is treated as nuetral. Jupiter is in fourth house from Venus, or Venus is in 10th house from Jupiter. So it may take points from Jupiter, or May not take points from Jupiter. If we add points of Jupiter Venus gets 32 points in row 17. Or other wise it will have 23 points. The jupiter gets hightest points = 31. So either Jupiteror Venus can give suffering to the father of the native. Now Jupiter is having sight on house C. Now he Samdharmi to Jupiter =Venus or Saturn or Rahu may give the result. We also know that the Venus is natural samdharmi to Saturn. There is no wonder, Venus given the result. The house selected by you for the death of mother are also wrong. Please check it. Sir, Due to practice, I do not require to write the worksheet. At a galnce I can judge the powerful significator. This is due to practice. To confirm the same, for study purpose, I left it to the members to calculate the worksheet. Selection of the house is very important. Please try for each and every instance, you will find every instance in line. This way you will come to know, effect of all the planets, action of Samdharmi, exchange of the planets etc etc , and so many things. With more and more practice, you will also be able to judge the strength of the planets, only looking at the astakvarg table and the chart. with regards Krushna > " Peter Sutcliffe " <petermay > > >Re: Re: Complete study of a chart cont >3. >Wed, 13 Dec 2000 16:57:13 +1000 > >Respected Krushna, >I took your advice and have been cl;osely studying the analysis of the >deaths of Ron's father and mother as given by Margarita. I found it to good >solid astrology but I was surprised with one omission - no mention of the >worksheet. >When I joined the list I was under the impression that the sub periods of >all events could be predicted by the use of the worksheet and the final >points as given in Row 17. As the worksheet was not mentioned I had a look >at the worksheets involved to see if the points of the planets could be >matched by the actual event dates. >In the Rasi chart of the native the points in row 17 were: >Sa = 41 Ve = 18 >Me = 26 Ma = 13 >Ju = 24 Mo = 8 >Su = 21 > >As the sub-period when the first event (death of father) took place was >Venus I was unable to connect this to the points as given above. Perhaps >you >can help? >I then used the 9th house as the Lagna and using the worksheet again got >the >total points for row 17 as below; >Ju = 28 Sa = 15 >Su = 21 Ma = 18 >Ve = 21 Mo = 14 >Me = 20 >In this case as Ju has site on house C I could use Ve as a sandharmi for Ju >and the Ve sub - period was correct for the event >Looking next at the second event - the death of the mother. In this case >the >planet with the highest points is Saturn which is in fact the sub-period >concerned. Unfortunately Sa also aspects Houses A, B, and C so that Sa >should be disqualified. I am not sure but I believe that as Sa is lord of >house D it would encourage the significations of house B ( in this case the >8th house) and therefore can act as significator for the event. >One point of note is that Ron hardly knew his father so his death was not >very significant whereas the death of his mother was very significant and >could be expected to show in the Rasi chart. >I would be pleased to have your comments respected Krushna on the above >points. > >Peter > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2000 Report Share Posted December 13, 2000 Dear Sanjay, Samdharmi of samdharmi? no it cant be. there must be some other link. without that it cant work. krushna. > " Sanjay Jaggia " <sanjaygg > > >Re: Re: Complete study of a chart cont >3. >Thu, 14 Dec 2000 10:48:01 +0700 > >Respected Krushnaji, > >From this I notice another principle. It does not have to be a direct >samdharmi to be able to give the result. The samdharmi of a samdharmi can >also give the result. But does this not end up in justifying almost any >event as you can relate all planets in this way? > >Kind regards >Sanjay > >- > " krushna kalani J.K. " <krushanain > >Wednesday, December 13, 2000 9:39 PM >Re: Re: Complete study of a chart cont >3. > > >respected peterji, >Pranam, > Sorry sir, some where you are making mistake. The selection of the >house for any instant is very important. Margarita, selected correct >houses. >For death of any person We should refer 8th house as 'B' so third house >becomes 'A' , and 12th house becomes 'C'. Now suppose we are considering >the >death of the father, from the native's chart. In this case father is >denoted >by 9th house. So for his death, considering 9th house as ascendent, we >should select 11th house (3rd from 9th) of the native as house 'A', fourth >house (8th from 9th) as 'B' and 8th house (12th from 9th) as 'C'. similarly >1st as 'D' and 9th as 'E'. If you calculate the points taking this >combination, you will find Sun = 15, Moon = 14, Mars =12,Mer.=23, Jupiter = >31, Venus = 23, Saturn = 17. > Here in this case Venus is with 4 points in house D. so it is >treated as nuetral. Jupiter is in fourth house from Venus, or Venus is in >10th house from Jupiter. So it may take points from Jupiter, or May not >take >points from Jupiter. If we add points of Jupiter Venus gets 32 points in >row >17. Or other wise it will have 23 points. The jupiter gets hightest points >= >31. So either Jupiteror Venus can give suffering to the father of the >native. Now Jupiter is having sight on house C. Now he Samdharmi to Jupiter >=Venus or Saturn or Rahu may give the result. We also know that the Venus >is >natural samdharmi to Saturn. There is no wonder, Venus given the result. > The house selected by you for the death of mother are also wrong. >Please check it. > Sir, Due to practice, I do not require to write the worksheet. At >a >galnce I can judge the powerful significator. This is due to practice. To >confirm the same, for study purpose, I left it to the members to calculate >the worksheet. > Selection of the house is very important. Please try for each and >every instance, you will find every instance in line. This way you will >come >to know, effect of all the planets, action of Samdharmi, exchange of the >planets etc etc , and so many things. > With more and more practice, you will also be able to judge the >strength of the planets, only looking at the astakvarg table and the chart. >with regards >Krushna > > > > " Peter Sutcliffe " <petermay > > > > > >Re: Re: Complete study of a chart >cont > >3. > >Wed, 13 Dec 2000 16:57:13 +1000 > > > >Respected Krushna, > >I took your advice and have been cl;osely studying the analysis of the > >deaths of Ron's father and mother as given by Margarita. I found it to >good > >solid astrology but I was surprised with one omission - no mention of the > >worksheet. > >When I joined the list I was under the impression that the sub periods of > >all events could be predicted by the use of the worksheet and the final > >points as given in Row 17. As the worksheet was not mentioned I had a >look > >at the worksheets involved to see if the points of the planets could be > >matched by the actual event dates. > >In the Rasi chart of the native the points in row 17 were: > >Sa = 41 Ve = 18 > >Me = 26 Ma = 13 > >Ju = 24 Mo = 8 > >Su = 21 > > > >As the sub-period when the first event (death of father) took place was > >Venus I was unable to connect this to the points as given above. Perhaps > >you > >can help? > >I then used the 9th house as the Lagna and using the worksheet again got > >the > >total points for row 17 as below; > >Ju = 28 Sa = 15 > >Su = 21 Ma = 18 > >Ve = 21 Mo = 14 > >Me = 20 > >In this case as Ju has site on house C I could use Ve as a sandharmi for >Ju > >and the Ve sub - period was correct for the event > >Looking next at the second event - the death of the mother. In this case > >the > >planet with the highest points is Saturn which is in fact the sub-period > >concerned. Unfortunately Sa also aspects Houses A, B, and C so that Sa > >should be disqualified. I am not sure but I believe that as Sa is lord of > >house D it would encourage the significations of house B ( in this case >the > >8th house) and therefore can act as significator for the event. > >One point of note is that Ron hardly knew his father so his death was not > >very significant whereas the death of his mother was very significant and > >could be expected to show in the Rasi chart. > >I would be pleased to have your comments respected Krushna on the above > >points. > > > >Peter > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2000 Report Share Posted December 13, 2000 Respected Krushnaji, On reading the message again, I think it is all right. I was just a little confused. I have another question. No house denotes events which are only good or only bad. The 8th house, for example, does not denote only death but also denotes inheritance, research, etc. How do we decide whether it would be research or death that the significator is going to give? Or does the significator give all the things but we notice only a few? Or does it depend on the nature of the significator? Kind regards Sanjay - " krushna kalani J.K. " <krushanain Thursday, December 14, 2000 12:01 PM Re: Re: Complete study of a chart cont 3. Dear Sanjay, Samdharmi of samdharmi? no it cant be. there must be some other link. without that it cant work. krushna. > " Sanjay Jaggia " <sanjaygg > > >Re: Re: Complete study of a chart cont >3. >Thu, 14 Dec 2000 10:48:01 +0700 > >Respected Krushnaji, > >From this I notice another principle. It does not have to be a direct >samdharmi to be able to give the result. The samdharmi of a samdharmi can >also give the result. But does this not end up in justifying almost any >event as you can relate all planets in this way? > >Kind regards >Sanjay > >- > " krushna kalani J.K. " <krushanain > >Wednesday, December 13, 2000 9:39 PM >Re: Re: Complete study of a chart cont >3. > > >respected peterji, >Pranam, > Sorry sir, some where you are making mistake. The selection of the >house for any instant is very important. Margarita, selected correct >houses. >For death of any person We should refer 8th house as 'B' so third house >becomes 'A' , and 12th house becomes 'C'. Now suppose we are considering >the >death of the father, from the native's chart. In this case father is >denoted >by 9th house. So for his death, considering 9th house as ascendent, we >should select 11th house (3rd from 9th) of the native as house 'A', fourth >house (8th from 9th) as 'B' and 8th house (12th from 9th) as 'C'. similarly >1st as 'D' and 9th as 'E'. If you calculate the points taking this >combination, you will find Sun = 15, Moon = 14, Mars =12,Mer.=23, Jupiter = >31, Venus = 23, Saturn = 17. > Here in this case Venus is with 4 points in house D. so it is >treated as nuetral. Jupiter is in fourth house from Venus, or Venus is in >10th house from Jupiter. So it may take points from Jupiter, or May not >take >points from Jupiter. If we add points of Jupiter Venus gets 32 points in >row >17. Or other wise it will have 23 points. The jupiter gets hightest points >= >31. So either Jupiteror Venus can give suffering to the father of the >native. Now Jupiter is having sight on house C. Now he Samdharmi to Jupiter >=Venus or Saturn or Rahu may give the result. We also know that the Venus >is >natural samdharmi to Saturn. There is no wonder, Venus given the result. > The house selected by you for the death of mother are also wrong. >Please check it. > Sir, Due to practice, I do not require to write the worksheet. At >a >galnce I can judge the powerful significator. This is due to practice. To >confirm the same, for study purpose, I left it to the members to calculate >the worksheet. > Selection of the house is very important. Please try for each and >every instance, you will find every instance in line. This way you will >come >to know, effect of all the planets, action of Samdharmi, exchange of the >planets etc etc , and so many things. > With more and more practice, you will also be able to judge the >strength of the planets, only looking at the astakvarg table and the chart. >with regards >Krushna > > > > " Peter Sutcliffe " <petermay > > > > > >Re: Re: Complete study of a chart >cont > >3. > >Wed, 13 Dec 2000 16:57:13 +1000 > > > >Respected Krushna, > >I took your advice and have been cl;osely studying the analysis of the > >deaths of Ron's father and mother as given by Margarita. I found it to >good > >solid astrology but I was surprised with one omission - no mention of the > >worksheet. > >When I joined the list I was under the impression that the sub periods of > >all events could be predicted by the use of the worksheet and the final > >points as given in Row 17. As the worksheet was not mentioned I had a >look > >at the worksheets involved to see if the points of the planets could be > >matched by the actual event dates. > >In the Rasi chart of the native the points in row 17 were: > >Sa = 41 Ve = 18 > >Me = 26 Ma = 13 > >Ju = 24 Mo = 8 > >Su = 21 > > > >As the sub-period when the first event (death of father) took place was > >Venus I was unable to connect this to the points as given above. Perhaps > >you > >can help? > >I then used the 9th house as the Lagna and using the worksheet again got > >the > >total points for row 17 as below; > >Ju = 28 Sa = 15 > >Su = 21 Ma = 18 > >Ve = 21 Mo = 14 > >Me = 20 > >In this case as Ju has site on house C I could use Ve as a sandharmi for >Ju > >and the Ve sub - period was correct for the event > >Looking next at the second event - the death of the mother. In this case > >the > >planet with the highest points is Saturn which is in fact the sub-period > >concerned. Unfortunately Sa also aspects Houses A, B, and C so that Sa > >should be disqualified. I am not sure but I believe that as Sa is lord of > >house D it would encourage the significations of house B ( in this case >the > >8th house) and therefore can act as significator for the event. > >One point of note is that Ron hardly knew his father so his death was not > >very significant whereas the death of his mother was very significant and > >could be expected to show in the Rasi chart. > >I would be pleased to have your comments respected Krushna on the above > >points. > > > >Peter > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2000 Report Share Posted December 14, 2000 dEAR sANJAY, I have not understood, what you want to say. Most probebly you are thinking that this Venus is giving the result because it is samdharmi of samdharmi. It is not so. In this case the venus it self is able to give the result. Others are extra qualifications, it gets backing from Jupiter, from Saturn and also Mercury. These are not neccessaries. If it would have not capable to give the result, and had only these quality due to only samdharmi, it would have not given the result. krushna > " Sanjay Jaggia " <sanjaygg > > >Re: Re: Complete study of a chart cont >3. >Thu, 14 Dec 2000 10:48:01 +0700 > >Respected Krushnaji, > >From this I notice another principle. It does not have to be a direct >samdharmi to be able to give the result. The samdharmi of a samdharmi can >also give the result. But does this not end up in justifying almost any >event as you can relate all planets in this way? > >Kind regards >Sanjay > >- > " krushna kalani J.K. " <krushanain > >Wednesday, December 13, 2000 9:39 PM >Re: Re: Complete study of a chart cont >3. > > >respected peterji, >Pranam, > Sorry sir, some where you are making mistake. The selection of the >house for any instant is very important. Margarita, selected correct >houses. >For death of any person We should refer 8th house as 'B' so third house >becomes 'A' , and 12th house becomes 'C'. Now suppose we are considering >the >death of the father, from the native's chart. In this case father is >denoted >by 9th house. So for his death, considering 9th house as ascendent, we >should select 11th house (3rd from 9th) of the native as house 'A', fourth >house (8th from 9th) as 'B' and 8th house (12th from 9th) as 'C'. similarly >1st as 'D' and 9th as 'E'. If you calculate the points taking this >combination, you will find Sun = 15, Moon = 14, Mars =12,Mer.=23, Jupiter = >31, Venus = 23, Saturn = 17. > Here in this case Venus is with 4 points in house D. so it is >treated as nuetral. Jupiter is in fourth house from Venus, or Venus is in >10th house from Jupiter. So it may take points from Jupiter, or May not >take >points from Jupiter. If we add points of Jupiter Venus gets 32 points in >row >17. Or other wise it will have 23 points. The jupiter gets hightest points >= >31. So either Jupiteror Venus can give suffering to the father of the >native. Now Jupiter is having sight on house C. Now he Samdharmi to Jupiter >=Venus or Saturn or Rahu may give the result. We also know that the Venus >is >natural samdharmi to Saturn. There is no wonder, Venus given the result. > The house selected by you for the death of mother are also wrong. >Please check it. > Sir, Due to practice, I do not require to write the worksheet. At >a >galnce I can judge the powerful significator. This is due to practice. To >confirm the same, for study purpose, I left it to the members to calculate >the worksheet. > Selection of the house is very important. Please try for each and >every instance, you will find every instance in line. This way you will >come >to know, effect of all the planets, action of Samdharmi, exchange of the >planets etc etc , and so many things. > With more and more practice, you will also be able to judge the >strength of the planets, only looking at the astakvarg table and the chart. >with regards >Krushna > > > > " Peter Sutcliffe " <petermay > > > > > >Re: Re: Complete study of a chart >cont > >3. > >Wed, 13 Dec 2000 16:57:13 +1000 > > > >Respected Krushna, > >I took your advice and have been cl;osely studying the analysis of the > >deaths of Ron's father and mother as given by Margarita. I found it to >good > >solid astrology but I was surprised with one omission - no mention of the > >worksheet. > >When I joined the list I was under the impression that the sub periods of > >all events could be predicted by the use of the worksheet and the final > >points as given in Row 17. As the worksheet was not mentioned I had a >look > >at the worksheets involved to see if the points of the planets could be > >matched by the actual event dates. > >In the Rasi chart of the native the points in row 17 were: > >Sa = 41 Ve = 18 > >Me = 26 Ma = 13 > >Ju = 24 Mo = 8 > >Su = 21 > > > >As the sub-period when the first event (death of father) took place was > >Venus I was unable to connect this to the points as given above. Perhaps > >you > >can help? > >I then used the 9th house as the Lagna and using the worksheet again got > >the > >total points for row 17 as below; > >Ju = 28 Sa = 15 > >Su = 21 Ma = 18 > >Ve = 21 Mo = 14 > >Me = 20 > >In this case as Ju has site on house C I could use Ve as a sandharmi for >Ju > >and the Ve sub - period was correct for the event > >Looking next at the second event - the death of the mother. In this case > >the > >planet with the highest points is Saturn which is in fact the sub-period > >concerned. Unfortunately Sa also aspects Houses A, B, and C so that Sa > >should be disqualified. I am not sure but I believe that as Sa is lord of > >house D it would encourage the significations of house B ( in this case >the > >8th house) and therefore can act as significator for the event. > >One point of note is that Ron hardly knew his father so his death was not > >very significant whereas the death of his mother was very significant and > >could be expected to show in the Rasi chart. > >I would be pleased to have your comments respected Krushna on the above > >points. > > > >Peter > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2000 Report Share Posted December 14, 2000 Respected Krushnaji, yes, I understood that. that is why I sent a message saying that I was confused initially. It is clear now. Kind regards Sanjay - " krushna kalani J.K. " <krushanain Thursday, December 14, 2000 5:20 PM Re: Re: Complete study of a chart cont 3. dEAR sANJAY, I have not understood, what you want to say. Most probebly you are thinking that this Venus is giving the result because it is samdharmi of samdharmi. It is not so. In this case the venus it self is able to give the result. Others are extra qualifications, it gets backing from Jupiter, from Saturn and also Mercury. These are not neccessaries. If it would have not capable to give the result, and had only these quality due to only samdharmi, it would have not given the result. krushna > " Sanjay Jaggia " <sanjaygg > > >Re: Re: Complete study of a chart cont >3. >Thu, 14 Dec 2000 10:48:01 +0700 > >Respected Krushnaji, > >From this I notice another principle. It does not have to be a direct >samdharmi to be able to give the result. The samdharmi of a samdharmi can >also give the result. But does this not end up in justifying almost any >event as you can relate all planets in this way? > >Kind regards >Sanjay > >- > " krushna kalani J.K. " <krushanain > >Wednesday, December 13, 2000 9:39 PM >Re: Re: Complete study of a chart cont >3. > > >respected peterji, >Pranam, > Sorry sir, some where you are making mistake. The selection of the >house for any instant is very important. Margarita, selected correct >houses. >For death of any person We should refer 8th house as 'B' so third house >becomes 'A' , and 12th house becomes 'C'. Now suppose we are considering >the >death of the father, from the native's chart. In this case father is >denoted >by 9th house. So for his death, considering 9th house as ascendent, we >should select 11th house (3rd from 9th) of the native as house 'A', fourth >house (8th from 9th) as 'B' and 8th house (12th from 9th) as 'C'. similarly >1st as 'D' and 9th as 'E'. If you calculate the points taking this >combination, you will find Sun = 15, Moon = 14, Mars =12,Mer.=23, Jupiter = >31, Venus = 23, Saturn = 17. > Here in this case Venus is with 4 points in house D. so it is >treated as nuetral. Jupiter is in fourth house from Venus, or Venus is in >10th house from Jupiter. So it may take points from Jupiter, or May not >take >points from Jupiter. If we add points of Jupiter Venus gets 32 points in >row >17. Or other wise it will have 23 points. The jupiter gets hightest points >= >31. So either Jupiteror Venus can give suffering to the father of the >native. Now Jupiter is having sight on house C. Now he Samdharmi to Jupiter >=Venus or Saturn or Rahu may give the result. We also know that the Venus >is >natural samdharmi to Saturn. There is no wonder, Venus given the result. > The house selected by you for the death of mother are also wrong. >Please check it. > Sir, Due to practice, I do not require to write the worksheet. At >a >galnce I can judge the powerful significator. This is due to practice. To >confirm the same, for study purpose, I left it to the members to calculate >the worksheet. > Selection of the house is very important. Please try for each and >every instance, you will find every instance in line. This way you will >come >to know, effect of all the planets, action of Samdharmi, exchange of the >planets etc etc , and so many things. > With more and more practice, you will also be able to judge the >strength of the planets, only looking at the astakvarg table and the chart. >with regards >Krushna > > > > " Peter Sutcliffe " <petermay > > > > > >Re: Re: Complete study of a chart >cont > >3. > >Wed, 13 Dec 2000 16:57:13 +1000 > > > >Respected Krushna, > >I took your advice and have been cl;osely studying the analysis of the > >deaths of Ron's father and mother as given by Margarita. I found it to >good > >solid astrology but I was surprised with one omission - no mention of the > >worksheet. > >When I joined the list I was under the impression that the sub periods of > >all events could be predicted by the use of the worksheet and the final > >points as given in Row 17. As the worksheet was not mentioned I had a >look > >at the worksheets involved to see if the points of the planets could be > >matched by the actual event dates. > >In the Rasi chart of the native the points in row 17 were: > >Sa = 41 Ve = 18 > >Me = 26 Ma = 13 > >Ju = 24 Mo = 8 > >Su = 21 > > > >As the sub-period when the first event (death of father) took place was > >Venus I was unable to connect this to the points as given above. Perhaps > >you > >can help? > >I then used the 9th house as the Lagna and using the worksheet again got > >the > >total points for row 17 as below; > >Ju = 28 Sa = 15 > >Su = 21 Ma = 18 > >Ve = 21 Mo = 14 > >Me = 20 > >In this case as Ju has site on house C I could use Ve as a sandharmi for >Ju > >and the Ve sub - period was correct for the event > >Looking next at the second event - the death of the mother. In this case > >the > >planet with the highest points is Saturn which is in fact the sub-period > >concerned. Unfortunately Sa also aspects Houses A, B, and C so that Sa > >should be disqualified. I am not sure but I believe that as Sa is lord of > >house D it would encourage the significations of house B ( in this case >the > >8th house) and therefore can act as significator for the event. > >One point of note is that Ron hardly knew his father so his death was not > >very significant whereas the death of his mother was very significant and > >could be expected to show in the Rasi chart. > >I would be pleased to have your comments respected Krushna on the above > >points. > > > >Peter > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2000 Report Share Posted December 14, 2000 Respected Krushna, In your reply to me you tended to jump to a lot of conclusions which were entirely incorrect. 1) I did NOT use the wrong houses in fact I used the 9th house as the lagna for the father and the 4th house as lagna for the mother EXACTLY as Margarita had done. Firthermore I checked withthe signs she gave for those charts to ensure I had got the correct houses. I also calculated the points for the rasi chart for Ron in addition to the above as I was unable to get the 9th and 4th houses to work for me. 2) You say yoiu do not need to calculate the points using the worksheet as you do not need ot do this. I appreciate that this is true as your knowledge of the subject is quite awe inspiring. However I think that you should occasionally try the worksheet just to sheck that it does work on all occasions. I have checked the worksheet using the 9th house as lagna on 4 or 5 occasions now and still get the same points with the exception of Sa for which I now get 21 poins not 15 as in my letter. These points do not tally with yours by quite a long way. I tried to copy the worksheet to put in this letter so that you could tell me where it was wrong unfortunately it will not copy to an email. I have however put it as an attachment which may be OK. 3)I am unable to understand where you get the 32 points when you add the points of Ju to the points of Ve. If you add the points from row 17 you get Ju+Ve = 31+23=54 If you add the points from Ju for being situated in the 8th house (house B) then you get Ju+Ve= 2+23=25. Could you please clarify this please. 4) I can understand most of the sandharmi principles so I can easily follow that Venus is snadharmi to Ju (4/10situation) and is natural sandharmi to Sa but I am not sure where the Rahu comes from could you also clarify this. I have in fact done a great deal of work on this chart and have read and printed all the letters on the chart inorder to be surte I have missed nothing. I also hope to go on doing work on this chart checking the marriage birth of children etcetera but I do need to know where I have gone wron if in fact I have gone wrong and I get rather angry by a sweeping statement such as You used the wrong houses " particularly when it is incorrect. Yours respectfully, Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2000 Report Share Posted December 14, 2000 dEAR sANJAY, aLL THESE NOTATIONS are given assuming each and every house as A, B, C, D, AND E. iF YOU CONSIDER 8th house as house 'A' it will be karak for first house so inheritence, When it is treated as house 'B' it denotes death etc. When it is 'C' means research etc. When 'D' Getting success , and when it is 'E' shrudness etc. All the notation in vedic astrology for houses are based on this phenomenon only. krushna. > " Sanjay Jaggia " <sanjaygg > > >Re: Re: Complete study of a chart cont >3. >Thu, 14 Dec 2000 13:07:09 +0700 > >Respected Krushnaji, > >On reading the message again, I think it is all right. I was just a little >confused. > >I have another question. No house denotes events which are only good or >only >bad. The 8th house, for example, does not denote only death but also >denotes >inheritance, research, etc. How do we decide whether it would be research >or >death that the significator is going to give? Or does the significator give >all the things but we notice only a few? Or does it depend on the nature of >the significator? > >Kind regards >Sanjay > ______________________________\ _____ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2000 Report Share Posted December 14, 2000 Respected Peterji, I am very sorry, I beg your pardon sir. You are senior to me, so you should forgive my mistake. I might have got confused, that those houses you have taken for calculating the death event of the father of native.. As for as Venus is concerned, it gets points in its astakvarg as fallows. 'D' 'B' 'C' 'E' 'A' house 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 Venus 4 6 5 4 5 2 2 4 5 5 8 2 Thus the total of the points for house A+B+C are 8+4+4 = 16. It is situated in house D but have got only 4 points so no effect. It is aspected by Saturn ( having 1 point) so it will get 7 points added, it comes to 16 + 7 = 23. These are minimum points it get. If we consider 4:10 relationship with Jupiter, We may add the points acquired by Jupiter in house A + B + C = 5 + 3 + 1 = 9. So I made it 23 + 9 = 32. For Saturn the total of A+B+C comes to 10, It aspects on house 'B' so 7 points gained, comes to 17, again Venus. Mercury and Mars aspects on Saturn and the effect is venus nil, Mercury -5 and Mars +6 . the cumulative effect of sight of planets on Saturn is gain of one point. So the points of Saturn becomes 17 + 1 = 18. The house indicates father is 9th house. Now the death of any person is indicated by the 8th house.For the death of the father, The eight house from 9th is 4th house of the chart. It should be considered as house 'B'. So house 'A' will be the 11th house of the chart. and House 'C' will be the 8th house it self. Now 3rd house from 'A' is 1st house so it is house 'D' and the 11th house from 'A' is 9th house 'E'. The lord of house 'D' for event of the death of the father of the native is Sun and lord of house 'E' is Mars. I am very sorry sir, if I have hurt you. Sir, I respect you, There was no intension, to insult you. Again I beg your pardon, and hope that your kind hearth will not find any difficulty to forgive me. with regards krushna > " Peter Sutcliffe " <petermay > > >Re: Re: Complete study of a chart cont >3. >Fri, 15 Dec 2000 00:31:20 +1000 > > Respected Krushna, >In your reply to me you tended to jump to a lot of conclusions which were >entirely incorrect. >1) I did NOT use the wrong houses in fact I used the 9th house as the lagna >for the father and the 4th house as lagna for the mother EXACTLY as >Margarita had done. Firthermore I checked withthe signs she gave for those >charts to ensure I had got the correct houses. I also calculated the points >for the rasi chart for Ron in addition to the above as I was unable to get >the 9th and 4th houses to work for me. >2) You say yoiu do not need to calculate the points using the worksheet as >you do not need ot do this. I appreciate that this is true as your >knowledge >of the subject is quite awe inspiring. However I think that you should >occasionally try the worksheet just to sheck that it does work on all >occasions. I have checked the worksheet using the 9th house as lagna on 4 >or 5 occasions now and still get the same points with the exception of Sa >for which I now get 21 poins not 15 as in my letter. These points do not >tally with yours by quite a long way. I tried to copy the worksheet to put >in this letter so that you could tell me where it was wrong unfortunately >it >will not copy to an email. I have however put it as an attachment which >may >be OK. >3)I am unable to understand where you get the 32 points when you add the >points of Ju to the points of Ve. If you add the points from row 17 you get >Ju+Ve = 31+23=54 >If you add the points from Ju for being situated in the 8th house (house B) >then you get Ju+Ve= 2+23=25. Could you please clarify this please. >4) I can understand most of the sandharmi principles so I can easily follow >that Venus is snadharmi to Ju (4/10situation) and is natural sandharmi to >Sa >but I am not sure where the Rahu comes from could you also clarify this. >I have in fact done a great deal of work on this chart and have read and >printed all the letters on the chart inorder to be surte I have missed >nothing. >I also hope to go on doing work on this chart checking the marriage birth >of >children etcetera but I do need to know where I have gone wron if in fact I >have gone wrong and I get rather angry by a sweeping statement such as >You used the wrong houses " particularly when it is incorrect. > >Yours respectfully, > >Peter ><< MasterWorksheet1.1.xls >> ______________________________\ _____ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2000 Report Share Posted December 14, 2000 Respected Peterji, Herewith I am enclosing the Worksheet, and sending to you. The points in the worksheet, sent by you and mine are differing in value. Today I have tried first time the work sheet, realy it is more easy to work.Please find it in attachment (127kb) regards krushna > ______________________________\ _____ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2000 Report Share Posted December 14, 2000 Dear Krushna, On the worksheet under meanings for the 8th house for houses D & E it shows for house 5th D & for house 1st E. But you say for house 1st as D and 9th as E Thank You, Sylvia On Wed, 13 Dec 2000 20:09:15 +0530 " krushna kalani J.K. " <krushanain writes: > respected peterji, > Pranam, > Sorry sir, some where you are making mistake. The selection > of the > house for any instant is very important. Margarita, selected correct > houses. > For death of any person We should refer 8th house as 'B' so third > house > becomes 'A' , and 12th house becomes 'C'. Now suppose we are > considering the > death of the father, from the native's chart. In this case father is > denoted > by 9th house. So for his death, considering 9th house as ascendent, > we > should select 11th house (3rd from 9th) of the native as house 'A', > fourth > house (8th from 9th) as 'B' and 8th house (12th from 9th) as 'C'. > similarly > 1st as 'D' and 9th as 'E'. If you calculate the points taking this > combination, you will find Sun = 15, Moon = 14, Mars =12,Mer.=23, > Jupiter = > 31, Venus = 23, Saturn = 17. > Here in this case Venus is with 4 points in house D. so it > is > treated as nuetral. Jupiter is in fourth house from Venus, or Venus > is in > 10th house from Jupiter. So it may take points from Jupiter, or May > not take > points from Jupiter. If we add points of Jupiter Venus gets 32 > points in row > 17. Or other wise it will have 23 points. The jupiter gets hightest > points = > 31. So either Jupiteror Venus can give suffering to the father of > the > native. Now Jupiter is having sight on house C. Now he Samdharmi to > Jupiter > =Venus or Saturn or Rahu may give the result. We also know that the > Venus is > natural samdharmi to Saturn. There is no wonder, Venus given the > result. > The house selected by you for the death of mother are also > wrong. > Please check it. > Sir, Due to practice, I do not require to write the > worksheet. At a > galnce I can judge the powerful significator. This is due to > practice. To > confirm the same, for study purpose, I left it to the members to > calculate > the worksheet. > Selection of the house is very important. Please try for > each and > every instance, you will find every instance in line. This way you > will come > to know, effect of all the planets, action of Samdharmi, exchange of > the > planets etc etc , and so many things. > With more and more practice, you will also be able to judge > the > strength of the planets, only looking at the astakvarg table and the > chart. > with regards > Krushna > > > > " Peter Sutcliffe " <petermay > > > > > >Re: Re: Complete study of a > chart cont > >3. > >Wed, 13 Dec 2000 16:57:13 +1000 > > > >Respected Krushna, > >I took your advice and have been cl;osely studying the analysis of > the > >deaths of Ron's father and mother as given by Margarita. I found it > to good > >solid astrology but I was surprised with one omission - no mention > of the > >worksheet. > >When I joined the list I was under the impression that the sub > periods of > >all events could be predicted by the use of the worksheet and the > final > >points as given in Row 17. As the worksheet was not mentioned I had > a look > >at the worksheets involved to see if the points of the planets > could be > >matched by the actual event dates. > >In the Rasi chart of the native the points in row 17 were: > >Sa = 41 Ve = 18 > >Me = 26 Ma = 13 > >Ju = 24 Mo = 8 > >Su = 21 > > > >As the sub-period when the first event (death of father) took place > was > >Venus I was unable to connect this to the points as given above. > Perhaps > >you > >can help? > >I then used the 9th house as the Lagna and using the worksheet > again got > >the > >total points for row 17 as below; > >Ju = 28 Sa = 15 > >Su = 21 Ma = 18 > >Ve = 21 Mo = 14 > >Me = 20 > >In this case as Ju has site on house C I could use Ve as a > sandharmi for Ju > >and the Ve sub - period was correct for the event > >Looking next at the second event - the death of the mother. In this > case > >the > >planet with the highest points is Saturn which is in fact the > sub-period > >concerned. Unfortunately Sa also aspects Houses A, B, and C so that > Sa > >should be disqualified. I am not sure but I believe that as Sa is > lord of > >house D it would encourage the significations of house B ( in this > case the > >8th house) and therefore can act as significator for the event. > >One point of note is that Ron hardly knew his father so his death > was not > >very significant whereas the death of his mother was very > significant and > >could be expected to show in the Rasi chart. > >I would be pleased to have your comments respected Krushna on the > above > >points. > > > >Peter > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2000 Report Share Posted December 14, 2000 Dear Sylvia, Yes sylvia both are correct. I was talking about the death event of the father of the native. For this the ninth house is selected as 1st house ( ninth house denotes for father) . So fron 9th 1st is 9th it self and fifth from ninth is ascendent of the chart. krushna >sylvia linzner <sylvia261 > > >Re: Re: Complete study of a chart cont >3. >Thu, 14 Dec 2000 13:45:10 -0800 > >Dear Krushna, >On the worksheet under meanings for the 8th house for houses D & E it >shows for house 5th D & for house 1st E. But you say for house 1st as >D and 9th as E >Thank You, >Sylvia > > >On Wed, 13 Dec 2000 20:09:15 +0530 " krushna kalani J.K. " ><krushanain writes: > > respected peterji, > > Pranam, > > Sorry sir, some where you are making mistake. The selection > > of the > > house for any instant is very important. Margarita, selected correct > > houses. > > For death of any person We should refer 8th house as 'B' so third > > house > > becomes 'A' , and 12th house becomes 'C'. Now suppose we are > > considering the > > death of the father, from the native's chart. In this case father is > > denoted > > by 9th house. So for his death, considering 9th house as ascendent, > > we > > should select 11th house (3rd from 9th) of the native as house 'A', > > fourth > > house (8th from 9th) as 'B' and 8th house (12th from 9th) as 'C'. > > similarly > > 1st as 'D' and 9th as 'E'. If you calculate the points taking this > > combination, you will find Sun = 15, Moon = 14, Mars =12,Mer.=23, > > Jupiter = > > 31, Venus = 23, Saturn = 17. > > Here in this case Venus is with 4 points in house D. so it > > is > > treated as nuetral. Jupiter is in fourth house from Venus, or Venus > > is in > > 10th house from Jupiter. So it may take points from Jupiter, or May > > not take > > points from Jupiter. If we add points of Jupiter Venus gets 32 > > points in row > > 17. Or other wise it will have 23 points. The jupiter gets hightest > > points = > > 31. So either Jupiteror Venus can give suffering to the father of > > the > > native. Now Jupiter is having sight on house C. Now he Samdharmi to > > Jupiter > > =Venus or Saturn or Rahu may give the result. We also know that the > > Venus is > > natural samdharmi to Saturn. There is no wonder, Venus given the > > result. > > The house selected by you for the death of mother are also > > wrong. > > Please check it. > > Sir, Due to practice, I do not require to write the > > worksheet. At a > > galnce I can judge the powerful significator. This is due to > > practice. To > > confirm the same, for study purpose, I left it to the members to > > calculate > > the worksheet. > > Selection of the house is very important. Please try for > > each and > > every instance, you will find every instance in line. This way you > > will come > > to know, effect of all the planets, action of Samdharmi, exchange of > > the > > planets etc etc , and so many things. > > With more and more practice, you will also be able to judge > > the > > strength of the planets, only looking at the astakvarg table and the > > chart. > > with regards > > Krushna > > > > > > > " Peter Sutcliffe " <petermay > > > > > > > > >Re: Re: Complete study of a > > chart cont > > >3. > > >Wed, 13 Dec 2000 16:57:13 +1000 > > > > > >Respected Krushna, > > >I took your advice and have been cl;osely studying the analysis of > > the > > >deaths of Ron's father and mother as given by Margarita. I found it > > to good > > >solid astrology but I was surprised with one omission - no mention > > of the > > >worksheet. > > >When I joined the list I was under the impression that the sub > > periods of > > >all events could be predicted by the use of the worksheet and the > > final > > >points as given in Row 17. As the worksheet was not mentioned I had > > a look > > >at the worksheets involved to see if the points of the planets > > could be > > >matched by the actual event dates. > > >In the Rasi chart of the native the points in row 17 were: > > >Sa = 41 Ve = 18 > > >Me = 26 Ma = 13 > > >Ju = 24 Mo = 8 > > >Su = 21 > > > > > >As the sub-period when the first event (death of father) took place > > was > > >Venus I was unable to connect this to the points as given above. > > Perhaps > > >you > > >can help? > > >I then used the 9th house as the Lagna and using the worksheet > > again got > > >the > > >total points for row 17 as below; > > >Ju = 28 Sa = 15 > > >Su = 21 Ma = 18 > > >Ve = 21 Mo = 14 > > >Me = 20 > > >In this case as Ju has site on house C I could use Ve as a > > sandharmi for Ju > > >and the Ve sub - period was correct for the event > > >Looking next at the second event - the death of the mother. In this > > case > > >the > > >planet with the highest points is Saturn which is in fact the > > sub-period > > >concerned. Unfortunately Sa also aspects Houses A, B, and C so that > > Sa > > >should be disqualified. I am not sure but I believe that as Sa is > > lord of > > >house D it would encourage the significations of house B ( in this > > case the > > >8th house) and therefore can act as significator for the event. > > >One point of note is that Ron hardly knew his father so his death > > was not > > >very significant whereas the death of his mother was very > > significant and > > >could be expected to show in the Rasi chart. > > >I would be pleased to have your comments respected Krushna on the > > above > > >points. > > > > > >Peter > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2000 Report Share Posted December 14, 2000 Dear Krushna, Thank You, I finally figured it out from the email message you sent to Peter Sylvia On Fri, 15 Dec 2000 03:37:58 +0530 " krushna kalani J.K. " <krushanain writes: > Dear Sylvia, > Yes sylvia both are correct. I was talking about the death > event of the > father of the native. For this the ninth house is selected as 1st > house ( > ninth house denotes for father) . So fron 9th 1st is 9th it self and > fifth > from ninth is ascendent of the chart. > krushna > > >sylvia linzner <sylvia261 > > > > > >Re: Re: Complete study of a > chart cont > >3. > >Thu, 14 Dec 2000 13:45:10 -0800 > > > >Dear Krushna, > >On the worksheet under meanings for the 8th house for houses D & E > it > >shows for house 5th D & for house 1st E. But you say for house > 1st as > >D and 9th as E > >Thank You, > >Sylvia > > > > > >On Wed, 13 Dec 2000 20:09:15 +0530 " krushna kalani J.K. " > ><krushanain writes: > > > respected peterji, > > > Pranam, > > > Sorry sir, some where you are making mistake. The > selection > > > of the > > > house for any instant is very important. Margarita, selected > correct > > > houses. > > > For death of any person We should refer 8th house as 'B' so > third > > > house > > > becomes 'A' , and 12th house becomes 'C'. Now suppose we are > > > considering the > > > death of the father, from the native's chart. In this case > father is > > > denoted > > > by 9th house. So for his death, considering 9th house as > ascendent, > > > we > > > should select 11th house (3rd from 9th) of the native as house > 'A', > > > fourth > > > house (8th from 9th) as 'B' and 8th house (12th from 9th) as > 'C'. > > > similarly > > > 1st as 'D' and 9th as 'E'. If you calculate the points taking > this > > > combination, you will find Sun = 15, Moon = 14, Mars > =12,Mer.=23, > > > Jupiter = > > > 31, Venus = 23, Saturn = 17. > > > Here in this case Venus is with 4 points in house D. > so it > > > is > > > treated as nuetral. Jupiter is in fourth house from Venus, or > Venus > > > is in > > > 10th house from Jupiter. So it may take points from Jupiter, or > May > > > not take > > > points from Jupiter. If we add points of Jupiter Venus gets 32 > > > points in row > > > 17. Or other wise it will have 23 points. The jupiter gets > hightest > > > points = > > > 31. So either Jupiteror Venus can give suffering to the father > of > > > the > > > native. Now Jupiter is having sight on house C. Now he Samdharmi > to > > > Jupiter > > > =Venus or Saturn or Rahu may give the result. We also know that > the > > > Venus is > > > natural samdharmi to Saturn. There is no wonder, Venus given the > > > result. > > > The house selected by you for the death of mother are > also > > > wrong. > > > Please check it. > > > Sir, Due to practice, I do not require to write the > > > worksheet. At a > > > galnce I can judge the powerful significator. This is due to > > > practice. To > > > confirm the same, for study purpose, I left it to the members to > > > calculate > > > the worksheet. > > > Selection of the house is very important. Please try for > > > each and > > > every instance, you will find every instance in line. This way > you > > > will come > > > to know, effect of all the planets, action of Samdharmi, > exchange of > > > the > > > planets etc etc , and so many things. > > > With more and more practice, you will also be able to > judge > > > the > > > strength of the planets, only looking at the astakvarg table and > the > > > chart. > > > with regards > > > Krushna > > > > > > > > > > " Peter Sutcliffe " <petermay > > > > > > > > > > > >Re: Re: Complete study of a > > > chart cont > > > >3. > > > >Wed, 13 Dec 2000 16:57:13 +1000 > > > > > > > >Respected Krushna, > > > >I took your advice and have been cl;osely studying the analysis > of > > > the > > > >deaths of Ron's father and mother as given by Margarita. I > found it > > > to good > > > >solid astrology but I was surprised with one omission - no > mention > > > of the > > > >worksheet. > > > >When I joined the list I was under the impression that the sub > > > periods of > > > >all events could be predicted by the use of the worksheet and > the > > > final > > > >points as given in Row 17. As the worksheet was not mentioned I > had > > > a look > > > >at the worksheets involved to see if the points of the planets > > > could be > > > >matched by the actual event dates. > > > >In the Rasi chart of the native the points in row 17 were: > > > >Sa = 41 Ve = 18 > > > >Me = 26 Ma = 13 > > > >Ju = 24 Mo = 8 > > > >Su = 21 > > > > > > > >As the sub-period when the first event (death of father) took > place > > > was > > > >Venus I was unable to connect this to the points as given > above. > > > Perhaps > > > >you > > > >can help? > > > >I then used the 9th house as the Lagna and using the worksheet > > > again got > > > >the > > > >total points for row 17 as below; > > > >Ju = 28 Sa = 15 > > > >Su = 21 Ma = 18 > > > >Ve = 21 Mo = 14 > > > >Me = 20 > > > >In this case as Ju has site on house C I could use Ve as a > > > sandharmi for Ju > > > >and the Ve sub - period was correct for the event > > > >Looking next at the second event - the death of the mother. In > this > > > case > > > >the > > > >planet with the highest points is Saturn which is in fact the > > > sub-period > > > >concerned. Unfortunately Sa also aspects Houses A, B, and C so > that > > > Sa > > > >should be disqualified. I am not sure but I believe that as Sa > is > > > lord of > > > >house D it would encourage the significations of house B ( in > this > > > case the > > > >8th house) and therefore can act as significator for the event. > > > >One point of note is that Ron hardly knew his father so his > death > > > was not > > > >very significant whereas the death of his mother was very > > > significant and > > > >could be expected to show in the Rasi chart. > > > >I would be pleased to have your comments respected Krushna on > the > > > above > > > >points. > > > > > > > >Peter > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2000 Report Share Posted December 14, 2000 Respected Krushnaji, This is quite extraordinary for me. So this means that the 8th house is not to be taken as house B for things like research or inheritance. This is very different from what I have read in the books so far. However, there must be other matters for which it could be taken as house B. So how do we decide whether we have to look for death or such other matters. While on this subject, could you please also tell us which houses should be taken as house B for different issues so that there is no confusion later. Kind regards Sanjay - " krushna kalani J.K. " <krushanain Friday, December 15, 2000 2:51 AM Re: Re: Complete study of a chart cont 3. dEAR sANJAY, aLL THESE NOTATIONS are given assuming each and every house as A, B, C, D, AND E. iF YOU CONSIDER 8th house as house 'A' it will be karak for first house so inheritence, When it is treated as house 'B' it denotes death etc. When it is 'C' means research etc. When 'D' Getting success , and when it is 'E' shrudness etc. All the notation in vedic astrology for houses are based on this phenomenon only. krushna. > " Sanjay Jaggia " <sanjaygg > > >Re: Re: Complete study of a chart cont >3. >Thu, 14 Dec 2000 13:07:09 +0700 > >Respected Krushnaji, > >On reading the message again, I think it is all right. I was just a little >confused. > >I have another question. No house denotes events which are only good or >only >bad. The 8th house, for example, does not denote only death but also >denotes >inheritance, research, etc. How do we decide whether it would be research >or >death that the significator is going to give? Or does the significator give >all the things but we notice only a few? Or does it depend on the nature of >the significator? > >Kind regards >Sanjay > __________________________ _________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2000 Report Share Posted December 14, 2000 Respected Krushnaji, I just saw this worksheet. I am afraid the cells in row two of the worksheet have had data manually entered in these so the formula has been erased. I am not sure if it is reliable. Kind regards Sanjay - " krushna kalani J.K. " <krushanain Friday, December 15, 2000 4:39 AM Re: Re: Complete study of a chart cont 3. Respected Peterji, Herewith I am enclosing the Worksheet, and sending to you. The points in the worksheet, sent by you and mine are differing in value. Today I have tried first time the work sheet, realy it is more easy to work.Please find it in attachment (127kb) regards krushna > __________________________ _________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2000 Report Share Posted December 15, 2000 respected Krushnaji, I am enclosing the correct worksheet. I have put in the basic data for Arjee so that you only have to enter in a few cells in the mastersheet for the aspects and 4:10 relationship, etc. I have also protected the cells where the formulas are so that these cannot be overwritten. While the results tally with what you have, I am getting 30 points for the 3rd house against 28 mentioned by you. Kind regards Sanjay Jaggia - " Sanjay Jaggia " <sanjaygg Friday, December 15, 2000 2:15 PM Re: Re: Complete study of a chart cont 3. Respected Krushnaji, I just saw this worksheet. I am afraid the cells in row two of the worksheet have had data manually entered in these so the formula has been erased. I am not sure if it is reliable. Kind regards Sanjay - " krushna kalani J.K. " <krushanain Friday, December 15, 2000 4:39 AM Re: Re: Complete study of a chart cont 3. Respected Peterji, Herewith I am enclosing the Worksheet, and sending to you. The points in the worksheet, sent by you and mine are differing in value. Today I have tried first time the work sheet, realy it is more easy to work.Please find it in attachment (127kb) regards krushna > __________________________ _________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2000 Report Share Posted December 15, 2000 Dear Sanjay, In Vedic astrology the notations for any house are mostly based on the concept of house D and E. There for the lord of those houses are eager to give the result for house B. Each and every events of life depends on these 5 houses. A,B.C.D,and E. The eight house denotes death, but it is not experienced that the Dasha of 8th lord or planets in 8th house are reason for death. May be such thing happen, but only when the lord of 8th is situated in 1st or 5th house with more points. Actually it is the life giving place. the 3rd house denotes the life ( longavity) If we take it as house B then 8th place becomes house E. so its lord is for increasing the life. If this lord is situated in 5th then it can also give death. Again it is 4:10 house. Now if 5th lord is situated in 8th house, with more points it will not give death. Any how I will give a seperate list for each house to be selected as house 'B' krushna > " Sanjay Jaggia " <sanjaygg > > >Re: Re: Complete study of a chart cont >3. >Fri, 15 Dec 2000 13:34:05 +0700 > >Respected Krushnaji, > >This is quite extraordinary for me. So this means that the 8th house is not >to be taken as house B for things like research or inheritance. This is >very >different from what I have read in the books so far. However, there must be >other matters for which it could be taken as house B. So how do we decide >whether we have to look for death or such other matters. > >While on this subject, could you please also tell us which houses should be >taken as house B for different issues so that there is no confusion later. > >Kind regards >Sanjay > >- > " krushna kalani J.K. " <krushanain > >Friday, December 15, 2000 2:51 AM >Re: Re: Complete study of a chart cont >3. > > >dEAR sANJAY, > aLL THESE NOTATIONS are given assuming each and every house as A, B, >C, D, AND E. iF YOU CONSIDER 8th house as house 'A' it will be karak for >first house so inheritence, When it is treated as house 'B' it denotes >death >etc. When it is 'C' means research etc. When 'D' Getting success , and when >it is 'E' shrudness etc. > All the notation in vedic astrology for houses are based on this >phenomenon only. >krushna. > > > " Sanjay Jaggia " <sanjaygg > > > > > >Re: Re: Complete study of a chart >cont > >3. > >Thu, 14 Dec 2000 13:07:09 +0700 > > > >Respected Krushnaji, > > > >On reading the message again, I think it is all right. I was just a >little > >confused. > > > >I have another question. No house denotes events which are only good or > >only > >bad. The 8th house, for example, does not denote only death but also > >denotes > >inheritance, research, etc. How do we decide whether it would be research > >or > >death that the significator is going to give? Or does the significator >give > >all the things but we notice only a few? Or does it depend on the nature >of > >the significator? > > > >Kind regards > >Sanjay > > >__________________________ >_________ >Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : >http://explorer.msn.com > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2000 Report Share Posted December 15, 2000 Respected Krushna, Thank you for your letter. I am pleased to accept your appology. I know that like myself you are a very busy person and under such circumstances it is easy to make mistakes. I havenn't yet had time to study your reply but will do so at the first opportunity, currently it is almost midnight Friday/Saturday so I will be able to study it then. If I still cannot get the same results as you I will give you the planet totals after each section of the worksheet and say why there has been a change. That way we should be able to pin point why there are differences - but let's hope there are none. respectfully yours, Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2000 Report Share Posted December 15, 2000 Dear Sanjay, I found some points not correct, so I changed manually, to correct it. This was sent to me by our member, While checking i found some mistakes. So tried to corrected. You mean it takes all points automaticaly. Then why it was having incorrect feeding. It must be taking feed back from Astakvarg table, Some members are discussing about the astakvarg points, they find some difference in Jupiter points. Is it a reflection of that. Please send me corrected worksheet. thanks krushna > " Sanjay Jaggia " <sanjaygg > > >Re: Re: Complete study of a chart cont >3. >Fri, 15 Dec 2000 14:15:10 +0700 > >Respected Krushnaji, > >I just saw this worksheet. I am afraid the cells in row two of the >worksheet >have had data manually entered in these so the formula has been erased. I >am >not sure if it is reliable. > >Kind regards >Sanjay > >- > " krushna kalani J.K. " <krushanain > >Friday, December 15, 2000 4:39 AM >Re: Re: Complete study of a chart cont >3. > > >Respected Peterji, > Herewith I am enclosing the Worksheet, and sending to you. The >points in the worksheet, sent by you and mine are differing in value. Today >I have tried first time the work sheet, realy it is more easy to >work.Please >find it in attachment (127kb) >regards >krushna > > > > >__________________________ >_________ >Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : >http://explorer.msn.com > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2000 Report Share Posted December 15, 2000 Respected Krushna, I have just had a quick look at the worksheet you sent back to me. Unfortunately it is corrupted in some way. The houses A, B, and C were listed as 11, 4, and 8 in that order which as you realise is completely wrong. It gives wrong points for the addition of A+B=C for all planets. I didn't look any further than that except top check that if I altered the " Master worksheet for house ? " it did not matter what I put there it did not alter the A,B, and C houses. I am not sure if you worked with it like that but I will be checking the points again when I study your first letter. Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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