Complete study of a chart cont 3.

[Guest guest]

Dear Sylvia -

 

 

I thought that you couldn't write on the light blue area's of the

worksheet but I just found out that you can I changed the 8th house to

house A 11 third from 9th house B 4th 8th from ninth and C 8th 12th from

ninth for father, Now my worksheet comes out like yours.

Finally after not getting any sleep last night trying to figure it out.

 

Originally, the blue areas WERE protected, but as a consequence, the whole worksheet as well became protected and no data at all could be entered. That was why I had to unprotect the whole worksheet. So if you care to play around with the formulated cells, then you'd be taking a risk that you may or may not be changing the end result.

 

Donna

[Guest guest]

Peterji,

With due respect I would like to request you to read message no

622.

krushna

, " Peter Sutcliffe "

<petermay@p...> wrote:

> Respected Krushna,

> I have just had a quick look at the worksheet you sent back to me.

> Unfortunately it is corrupted in some way. The houses A, B, and C

were

> listed as 11, 4, and 8 in that order which as you realise is

completely

> wrong. It gives wrong points for the addition of A+B=C for all

planets. I

> didn't look any further than that except top check that if I

altered the

> " Master worksheet for house ? " it did not matter what I put there

it did

> not alter the A,B, and C houses.

> I am not sure if you worked with it like that but I will be

checking the

> points again when I study your first letter.

>

> Peter

[Guest guest]

Dear Krushna and List members,

 

Please correct the mistakes on this exercise if you can; it would be most

helpful. I tested my understanding using the study chart, Ron's chart. I

tried to identify relevant houses for Marriage chart, longevity of marriage

chart and birth of children and match those to the subs, using Margarita's

email for most helpful guidance. I also ask questions, which hopefully I

phrased so that they can be answered easily.

 

Marriage 7 oct 1960--Jupiter/Mars-- and 1-year separation started 6 jan

1979--Saturn/Rahu.

 

Marriage house is the 7th=Hse B= aq

Hse E is leo

Hse A is virgo

Hse D is scorpio

Hse C is gemini

 

Ron married in the sub of Mars.

Mars is in hse E

Mars is lord of hse D

Either of the 2 points above is sufficient to give marriage??.

In addition Mars aspects the 7th house, hse B, and is in the asc in the

navamsa.

 

Questions

1. Is it correct to say that Marriage could have occurred during the sub of

the lord of any one of hses A, B, C, D, E or of any one of the planets in

these hses?

For instance, could Mars here have given marriage had it not been both lord

of D and in hse E?

2. Does a planet a. aspecting [by graha dristi] or conjoining the lord of hse

A, B, C, D or E or b. aspecting any of hses A, B, C, D, E also qualify to

give by itself the relevant event during its sub?

3. Does the dispositor of the lord of, or of the planet located in, hse A, B,

C, D, or E also qualify to give by itself the relevant event during its sub?

4. Is it necessary that the relevant planet have a particular number of

points to qualify?

5. If a planet X is in the same sign as the lord of a relevant hse, but the 2

planets are 15deg. or more apart, can X be deemed conjoined to the lord of

the hse for above purpose?

6. With certain caveats, relating to strength, a planet X in the 4th hse from

another planet Y can give the results of Y during X's sub even though X has

no links with the relevant houses, assuming Y does?

7. Are there any other indicators than as above to figure out if the lord of

a sub is activated for a given question?

 

Longevity of marriage:

7TH Hse is E=AQ

Hse B is virgo

Hse C is capricorn

Hse D is gemini

Hse A is aries

 

Separation occurred during the sub of Rahu

Rahu is in Sagittarius, he acts like Jupiter and Mercury [ketu's sign] and is

of the nature of Saturn. He can't be too bad since married life resumed in

Rahu sub.

Possible answers as to why Rahu gave separation:

a. Saturn acts for Jupiter and Saturn is Lord of Hse E -- is in hse E-- and

lord of Hse C, 12th from 7th

b. Jupiter is maraka, lord of 2nd hse from the 7th, Hse E

c. Mercury qualifies because of one of the following: he is in the 12th from

hse B --or conjunct Venus, natural karak of marriage--or aspects hse E. Any

or all? Does not sound convincing.

d. Rahu=Saturn lord of hse E in hse E and lord of hse C, the 12th from E

 

1. Question: If a person wants to know when he will " find " his astrological

guru, would the asc of guru be the 9th hse of native, and hses E, C, D, A be

computed as per father's chart? Then would the native be likely to be taken

on as special student by the guru during the sub of the lord of, or of a

planet in, any of hses A, B, C, D or E? Just like marriage.

2. Question: Which is hse B for the marriage engagement? The 5th?

3. Question: If hse B of marriage/spouse asc. is the 7th hse, would one look

at the 10th from the 7th as a new hse B to find out the sub that could bring

employment to the spouse? or the 6th? Should its lord or planet in it

-whichever hse it is- be connected to the asc of spouse i.e. 7th of native

chart? And would that hse-10th or 6th- become hse E if one were to look for

termination of employment?

4. Question: I think I am clear that the longevity chart of ,say, father or

mother is used to determine sus in which death can occur. I am not clear as

to the kinds of questions answered by the basic father or mother chart. Which

are they?

 

Resumption of Ron's married life/protection of marriage:

Caused by the fact that same Saturn acts as lord of B of marriage chart in B

and as lord of E of longevity of marriage in E, which is the same as saying

that a planet in its own sign protects the house?

 

Doing the chart for the birth of children in Ron's chart: 8 feb 1962

--Jupiter/Rahu; 11 June 1963 --Jupiter/Rahu; 4 march 1971 --Saturn/Venus.

 

I took 5th house for childbirth/asc of child=SAG=hse B

Hse E = conception/origin of child= taurus

Hse A= cancer

Hse D= virgo

Hse C= aries

 

1st and 2nd children during Rahu sub.

Rahu is in hse B.

Rahu is aspected by the lord of Hse A

Rahu gives the effects of Jupiter, natural karak of children

Rahu gives the effects of Mercury, lord of hse D and conjoining lord of hse E

Would any one of the above links be sufficient by itself?

3rd child during Venus sub.

Venus is lord of hse E

Venus conjoins the lord of hse D

Dispositor of Venus is in hse A.

Same question as for first 2 kids

 

Also, does one keep the 5th hse as hse B for all children or should one go to

the 7th, 9th hse [FROM NATIVE ASC] for 2nd, 3rd child? For 2nd spouse, go to

hse 9th or 2nd [from native asc] as Hse B or stick to hse 7 as hse B?

 

Hope I am reasonably within ballpark

Thank you and Regards

Christine

 

 

 

 

 

 

31 6th January 1979 Wife left home, leaving children with him Saturn/

Rahu

32 18th Jan 1980 Wife returned home Saturn / Rahu (

33 4th March 1980 started a budiness in partenership, went wrong

Saturn Jupiter

34 20th July 1982 opened his video stores Saturn / Jupiter ending

35 16th Feb 1984 Store robbed ( he says it was good for him, because

selling insurance was better then business ) Mercury / Mercury

36. 5th June 1984 operated for hernia Mercury / Mercury

37 15th March 1985 started working with Major Insurance co. Very

Successful, won awards and good income Mercury /Ketu

38 20th July 1990 trip to Greece and Egypt as Award Mercury / Moon

39 7th Jan 1994 Operated Cyst on Back Mercury Rahu

40 23rd Sept 1997 Operation circumcision Mercury / Saturn

41 2nd Sept 2000 Suffered hernia injury in London Ketu / Venus

42 10th Nov 2000 Hernia Operation right side Ketu Venus

 

He is of reserved nature. Faced more health problems in

middle age. When he was child he suffered due to asthma. He have low

blood sugar, easily managable by proper diet.

 

This is all about the native of the chart.

krushna 09 Dec 2000

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Dear Krushna,

I thought that you couldn't write on the light blue area's of the

worksheet but I just found out that you can I changed the 8th house to

house A 11 third from 9th house B 4th 8th from ninth and C 8th 12th from

ninth for father, Now my worksheet comes out like yours.

Finally after not getting any sleep last night trying to figure it out.

Thank You,

Sylvia

 

On Fri, 15 Dec 2000 19:24:04 -0000 " krushna " <krushanain

writes:

> Peterji,

> With due respect I would like to request you to read message no

>

> 622.

> krushna

> , " Peter Sutcliffe "

> <petermay@p...> wrote:

> > Respected Krushna,

> > I have just had a quick look at the worksheet you sent back to me.

> > Unfortunately it is corrupted in some way. The houses A, B, and C

> were

> > listed as 11, 4, and 8 in that order which as you realise is

> completely

> > wrong. It gives wrong points for the addition of A+B=C for all

> planets. I

> > didn't look any further than that except top check that if I

> altered the

> > " Master worksheet for house ? " it did not matter what I put there

>

> it did

> > not alter the A,B, and C houses.

> > I am not sure if you worked with it like that but I will be

> checking the

> > points again when I study your first letter.

> >

> > Peter

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Respected Krushna,

I had already read message 622 and was fully conversant with its contents.

 

Peter

[Guest guest]

Sylvia,

You are not supposed to write on the light blue areas of the worksheet -

with a few exceptions.

Peter

[Guest guest]

Thanks Sylvia

krushna

 

 

>sylvia linzner <sylvia261

>

>

>Re: Re: Complete study of a chart cont

>3.

>Fri, 15 Dec 2000 13:30:51 -0800

>

>Dear Krushna,

>I thought that you couldn't write on the light blue area's of the

>worksheet but I just found out that you can I changed the 8th house to

>house A 11 third from 9th house B 4th 8th from ninth and C 8th 12th from

>ninth for father, Now my worksheet comes out like yours.

>Finally after not getting any sleep last night trying to figure it out.

>Thank You,

>Sylvia

>

>On Fri, 15 Dec 2000 19:24:04 -0000 " krushna " <krushanain

>writes:

> > Peterji,

> > With due respect I would like to request you to read message no

> >

> > 622.

> > krushna

> > , " Peter Sutcliffe "

> > <petermay@p...> wrote:

> > > Respected Krushna,

> > > I have just had a quick look at the worksheet you sent back to me.

> > > Unfortunately it is corrupted in some way. The houses A, B, and C

> > were

> > > listed as 11, 4, and 8 in that order which as you realise is

> > completely

> > > wrong. It gives wrong points for the addition of A+B=C for all

> > planets. I

> > > didn't look any further than that except top check that if I

> > altered the

> > > " Master worksheet for house ? " it did not matter what I put there

> >

> > it did

> > > not alter the A,B, and C houses.

> > > I am not sure if you worked with it like that but I will be

> > checking the

> > > points again when I study your first letter.

> > >

> > > Peter

> >

> >

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[Guest guest]

Dear Donna,

Yes, you are right after I changed the house numbers it froze for all the

houses, so I just deleted it and downloaded the worksheet again then just

used house 4 in place of 8 the numbers were right then, and the end

result matched Krushna's.

 

On Fri, 15 Dec 2000 18:31:23 EST DQuinn12 writes:

> Dear Sylvia -

>

>

> > I thought that you couldn't write on the light blue area's of the

> > worksheet but I just found out that you can I changed the 8th

> house to

> > house A 11 third from 9th house B 4th 8th from ninth and C 8th

> 12th from

> > ninth for father, Now my worksheet comes out like yours.

> > Finally after not getting any sleep last night trying to figure it

> out.

> >

>

> Originally, the blue areas WERE protected, but as a consequence, the

> whole

> worksheet as well became protected and no data at all could be

> entered. That

> was why I had to unprotect the whole worksheet. So if you care to

> play around

> with the formulated cells, then you'd be taking a risk that you may

> or may

> not be changing the end result.

>

> Donna

 

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[Guest guest]

Peter,

I found that out, so I use house 4 in place of 8 it works that way

Sylvia

 

On Sat, 16 Dec 2000 15:36:09 +1000 " Peter Sutcliffe "

<petermay writes:

> Sylvia,

> You are not supposed to write on the light blue areas of the

> worksheet -

> with a few exceptions.

> Peter

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Respected Krushnaji,

 

Thank you for your clarification. I would be waiting for your houses

assignment.

 

Kind regards

Sanjay

 

-

" krushna kalani J.K. " <krushanain

 

Friday, December 15, 2000 7:29 PM

Re: Re: Complete study of a chart cont

3.

 

 

Dear Sanjay,

In Vedic astrology the notations for any house are mostly based on the

concept of house D and E. There for the lord of those houses are eager to

give the result for house B.

Each and every events of life depends on these 5 houses. A,B.C.D,and

E. The eight house denotes death, but it is not experienced that the Dasha

of 8th lord or planets in 8th house are reason for death. May be such thing

happen, but only when the lord of 8th is situated in 1st or 5th house with

more points. Actually it is the life giving place. the 3rd house denotes the

life ( longavity) If we take it as house B then 8th place becomes house E.

so its lord is for increasing the life. If this lord is situated in 5th then

it can also give death. Again it is 4:10 house. Now if 5th lord is situated

in 8th house, with more points it will not give death.

Any how I will give a seperate list for each house to be selected as

house 'B'

krushna

 

 

> " Sanjay Jaggia " <sanjaygg

>

>

>Re: Re: Complete study of a chart cont

>3.

>Fri, 15 Dec 2000 13:34:05 +0700

>

>Respected Krushnaji,

>

>This is quite extraordinary for me. So this means that the 8th house is not

>to be taken as house B for things like research or inheritance. This is

>very

>different from what I have read in the books so far. However, there must be

>other matters for which it could be taken as house B. So how do we decide

>whether we have to look for death or such other matters.

>

>While on this subject, could you please also tell us which houses should be

>taken as house B for different issues so that there is no confusion later.

>

>Kind regards

>Sanjay

>

>-

> " krushna kalani J.K. " <krushanain

>

>Friday, December 15, 2000 2:51 AM

>Re: Re: Complete study of a chart cont

>3.

>

>

>dEAR sANJAY,

> aLL THESE NOTATIONS are given assuming each and every house as A, B,

>C, D, AND E. iF YOU CONSIDER 8th house as house 'A' it will be karak for

>first house so inheritence, When it is treated as house 'B' it denotes

>death

>etc. When it is 'C' means research etc. When 'D' Getting success , and when

>it is 'E' shrudness etc.

> All the notation in vedic astrology for houses are based on this

>phenomenon only.

>krushna.

>

> > " Sanjay Jaggia " <sanjaygg

> >

> >

> >Re: Re: Complete study of a chart

>cont

> >3.

> >Thu, 14 Dec 2000 13:07:09 +0700

> >

> >Respected Krushnaji,

> >

> >On reading the message again, I think it is all right. I was just a

>little

> >confused.

> >

> >I have another question. No house denotes events which are only good or

> >only

> >bad. The 8th house, for example, does not denote only death but also

> >denotes

> >inheritance, research, etc. How do we decide whether it would be research

> >or

> >death that the significator is going to give? Or does the significator

>give

> >all the things but we notice only a few? Or does it depend on the nature

>of

> >the significator?

> >

> >Kind regards

> >Sanjay

> >

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