Guest guest Posted January 2, 2001 Report Share Posted January 2, 2001 Dear Krushna and list, If a planet is 12th lord and it has 4 bindus points it will give its points to the 4th planet from it, and we don't have to deduct the points because of it being the 12th lord? example page 35 of the lessons Jupiter is 12th lord with 4 bindus points Saturn gets its 14 points so we don't deduct the 14 points from Saturn? Is it because Jupiter has 4 bindus points and is neutral? Sylvia ______________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2001 Report Share Posted January 2, 2001 Dear Sylvia, 12th lord means the lord of the house which is 12th from house 'B'. We do not mean 12th lord of the chart. If it is with 4 points it will not get points from the planet situated in 4th house from it, until it is lord of house 'D' and 'E'. No planet gives points to 4th planet, What you say is some thing confusing. Points are given to 10th planet not to 4th planet. Krushna >sylvia linzner <sylvia261 > > > 12th lord >Tue, 2 Jan 2001 08:41:12 -0800 > >Dear Krushna and list, >If a planet is 12th lord and it has 4 bindus points it will give its >points to the 4th planet from it, and we don't have to deduct the points >because of it being the 12th lord? >example page 35 of the lessons Jupiter is 12th lord with 4 bindus points >Saturn gets its 14 points so we don't deduct the 14 points from Saturn? >Is it because Jupiter has 4 bindus points and is neutral? >Sylvia >______________ >GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! >Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! >Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: >http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. _______________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2001 Report Share Posted January 4, 2001 Dear Krushna, I am sorry I didn't explain myself very well, I know that the 12th lord is counted from house B, what I was trying to ask is on the example worksheet on page 35 of the lessons, Juipter is the 12 lord from house B for the 7th house and sun, mercury and saturn are in tenth house from jupiter , saturn gets the points from jupiter. I thought we were suppose to deduct the points. Sylvia On Tue, 02 Jan 2001 23:03:19 +0530 " krushna kalani J.K. " <krushanain writes: > Dear Sylvia, > > 12th lord means the lord of the house which is 12th from > house 'B'. > We do not mean 12th lord of the chart. If it is with 4 points it > will not > get points from the planet situated in 4th house from it, until it > is lord > of house 'D' and 'E'. > No planet gives points to 4th planet, What you say is some > thing > confusing. Points are given to 10th planet not to 4th planet. > Krushna > > > >sylvia linzner <sylvia261 > > > > > > 12th lord > >Tue, 2 Jan 2001 08:41:12 -0800 > > > >Dear Krushna and list, > >If a planet is 12th lord and it has 4 bindus points it will give > its > >points to the 4th planet from it, and we don't have to deduct the > points > >because of it being the 12th lord? > >example page 35 of the lessons Jupiter is 12th lord with 4 bindus > points > >Saturn gets its 14 points so we don't deduct the 14 points from > Saturn? > >Is it because Jupiter has 4 bindus points and is neutral? > >Sylvia > >______________ > >GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! > >Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! > >Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: > >http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. > > _______________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at > http://www.hotmail.com. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2001 Report Share Posted January 5, 2001 Dear Sylvia, Yes you are correct, for the result of 7th house, points of jupiter should not be added, so Saturn will remain with 18 points. Still it is power ful, and natural samdharmi to lord of D. Si it given the chance. Now in this case note that Jupiter sub was before this, and in the jupiter sub the transit of jupiter was from 11th house, as per vedic astrology it was more favorable period, but as Jupiter is sixth lord, it can not give result. Saturn which is having sight on 11th house 'C', only being samdharmei to Venus, lord of 'D', geven the marriage. In india the girls get married at early age,about (18 years, it is changed now due to education ), She was about 25 years, at the time of marriage. This was a case of delayed marriage. Sun Venus difference is about 46 degrees, and Saturn is aspecting Venus (navmansha) and one of the lumenery, Sun is with Saturn. krushna >sylvia linzner <sylvia261 > > >Re: 12th lord >Thu, 4 Jan 2001 07:14:36 -0800 > >Dear Krushna, >I am sorry I didn't explain myself very well, I know that the 12th lord >is counted from house B, what I was trying to ask is on the example >worksheet on page 35 of the lessons, Juipter is the 12 lord from house B >for the 7th house and sun, mercury and saturn are in tenth house from >jupiter , saturn gets the points from jupiter. I thought we were suppose >to deduct the points. >Sylvia > >On Tue, 02 Jan 2001 23:03:19 +0530 " krushna kalani J.K. " ><krushanain writes: > > Dear Sylvia, > > > > 12th lord means the lord of the house which is 12th from > > house 'B'. > > We do not mean 12th lord of the chart. If it is with 4 points it > > will not > > get points from the planet situated in 4th house from it, until it > > is lord > > of house 'D' and 'E'. > > No planet gives points to 4th planet, What you say is some > > thing > > confusing. Points are given to 10th planet not to 4th planet. > > Krushna > > > > > > >sylvia linzner <sylvia261 > > > > > > > > > 12th lord > > >Tue, 2 Jan 2001 08:41:12 -0800 > > > > > >Dear Krushna and list, > > >If a planet is 12th lord and it has 4 bindus points it will give > > its > > >points to the 4th planet from it, and we don't have to deduct the > > points > > >because of it being the 12th lord? > > >example page 35 of the lessons Jupiter is 12th lord with 4 bindus > > points > > >Saturn gets its 14 points so we don't deduct the 14 points from > > Saturn? > > >Is it because Jupiter has 4 bindus points and is neutral? > > >Sylvia > > >______________ > > >GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! > > >Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! > > >Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: > > >http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. > > > > >_______________________ > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at > > http://www.hotmail.com. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2001 Report Share Posted January 5, 2001 Dear Sylvia, Yes you are correct, for the result of 7th house, points of jupiter should not be added, so Saturn will remain with 18 points. Still it is power ful, and natural samdharmi to lord of D. Si it given the chance. Now in this case note that Jupiter sub was before this, and in the jupiter sub the transit of jupiter was from 11th house, as per vedic astrology it was more favorable period, but as Jupiter is sixth lord, it can not give result. Saturn which is having sight on 11th house 'C', only being samdharmei to Venus, lord of 'D', geven the marriage. In india the girls get married at early age,about (18 years, it is changed now due to education ), She was about 25 years, at the time of marriage. This was a case of delayed marriage. Sun Venus difference is about 46 degrees, and Saturn is aspecting Venus (navmansha) and one of the lumenery, Sun is with Saturn. krushna >sylvia linzner <sylvia261 > > >Re: 12th lord >Thu, 4 Jan 2001 07:14:36 -0800 > >Dear Krushna, >I am sorry I didn't explain myself very well, I know that the 12th lord >is counted from house B, what I was trying to ask is on the example >worksheet on page 35 of the lessons, Juipter is the 12 lord from house B >for the 7th house and sun, mercury and saturn are in tenth house from >jupiter , saturn gets the points from jupiter. I thought we were suppose >to deduct the points. >Sylvia > >On Tue, 02 Jan 2001 23:03:19 +0530 " krushna kalani J.K. " ><krushanain writes: > > Dear Sylvia, > > > > 12th lord means the lord of the house which is 12th from > > house 'B'. > > We do not mean 12th lord of the chart. If it is with 4 points it > > will not > > get points from the planet situated in 4th house from it, until it > > is lord > > of house 'D' and 'E'. > > No planet gives points to 4th planet, What you say is some > > thing > > confusing. Points are given to 10th planet not to 4th planet. > > Krushna > > > > > > >sylvia linzner <sylvia261 > > > > > > > > > 12th lord > > >Tue, 2 Jan 2001 08:41:12 -0800 > > > > > >Dear Krushna and list, > > >If a planet is 12th lord and it has 4 bindus points it will give > > its > > >points to the 4th planet from it, and we don't have to deduct the > > points > > >because of it being the 12th lord? > > >example page 35 of the lessons Jupiter is 12th lord with 4 bindus > > points > > >Saturn gets its 14 points so we don't deduct the 14 points from > > Saturn? > > >Is it because Jupiter has 4 bindus points and is neutral? > > >Sylvia > > >______________ > > >GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! > > >Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! > > >Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: > > >http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. > > > > >_______________________ > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at > > http://www.hotmail.com. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2001 Report Share Posted January 5, 2001 Dear Krushna, Thank You, I have another question, In my chart for the 7th house Jupiter is the 12th lord from house B and it is aspecting House B with 4 points and house C with 4 points, on line 14a of the worksheet saturn is there, on line 15a is 3, on line 16a is 5 benefic points,now on line 16e for adjustment for 12 lord do I deduct 8 points for the jupiter or the 5 benefic points? Sylvia On Fri, 05 Jan 2001 21:57:19 +0530 " krushna kalani J.K. " <krushanain writes: > Dear Sylvia, > Yes you are correct, for the result of 7th house, points of > jupiter > should not be added, so Saturn will remain with 18 points. Still it > is power > ful, and natural samdharmi to lord of D. Si it given the chance. Now > in this > case note that Jupiter sub was before this, and in the jupiter sub > the > transit of jupiter was from 11th house, as per vedic astrology it > was more > favorable period, but as Jupiter is sixth lord, it can not give > result. > Saturn which is having sight on 11th house 'C', only being > samdharmei to > Venus, lord of 'D', geven the marriage. In india the girls get > married at > early age,about (18 years, it is changed now due to education ), She > was > about 25 years, at the time of marriage. This was a case of delayed > marriage. Sun Venus difference is about 46 degrees, and Saturn is > aspecting > Venus (navmansha) and one of the lumenery, Sun is with Saturn. > krushna > > > > >sylvia linzner <sylvia261 > > > > > >Re: 12th lord > >Thu, 4 Jan 2001 07:14:36 -0800 > > > >Dear Krushna, > >I am sorry I didn't explain myself very well, I know that the 12th > lord > >is counted from house B, what I was trying to ask is on the example > >worksheet on page 35 of the lessons, Juipter is the 12 lord from > house B > >for the 7th house and sun, mercury and saturn are in tenth house > from > >jupiter , saturn gets the points from jupiter. I thought we were > suppose > >to deduct the points. > >Sylvia > > > >On Tue, 02 Jan 2001 23:03:19 +0530 " krushna kalani J.K. " > ><krushanain writes: > > > Dear Sylvia, > > > > > > 12th lord means the lord of the house which is 12th > from > > > house 'B'. > > > We do not mean 12th lord of the chart. If it is with 4 points it > > > will not > > > get points from the planet situated in 4th house from it, until > it > > > is lord > > > of house 'D' and 'E'. > > > No planet gives points to 4th planet, What you say is > some > > > thing > > > confusing. Points are given to 10th planet not to 4th planet. > > > Krushna > > > > > > > > > >sylvia linzner <sylvia261 > > > > > > > > > > > > 12th lord > > > >Tue, 2 Jan 2001 08:41:12 -0800 > > > > > > > >Dear Krushna and list, > > > >If a planet is 12th lord and it has 4 bindus points it will > give > > > its > > > >points to the 4th planet from it, and we don't have to deduct > the > > > points > > > >because of it being the 12th lord? > > > >example page 35 of the lessons Jupiter is 12th lord with 4 > bindus > > > points > > > >Saturn gets its 14 points so we don't deduct the 14 points from > > > Saturn? > > > >Is it because Jupiter has 4 bindus points and is neutral? > > > >Sylvia > > > > >______________ > > > >GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! > > > >Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! > > > >Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: > > > >http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. > > > > > > > >______________________ _ > > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at > > > http://www.hotmail.com. > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2001 Report Share Posted January 6, 2001 dEAR sYLVIA, There will be no deduction due to the sight of Jupiter, Because it is having 4 points in third. The sight is nutral. We do not add any points for the planet having 4 points. Jupiter is 6th lord, and it is aspected by Saturn having 3 points, so Saturn will give 5 points to Jupiter. We deduct only the points gained by any planet, due to the sight of 12th lord. No effect for 12th lord itself. krushna 6/01/01 >sylvia linzner <sylvia261 > > >Re: 12th lord >Fri, 5 Jan 2001 10:06:41 -0800 > >Dear Krushna, >Thank You, >I have another question, In my chart for the 7th house Jupiter is the >12th lord from house B and it is aspecting House B with 4 points and >house C with 4 points, on line 14a of the worksheet saturn is there, on >line 15a is 3, on line 16a is 5 benefic points,now on line 16e for >adjustment for 12 lord do I deduct 8 points for the jupiter or the 5 >benefic points? >Sylvia > > >On Fri, 05 Jan 2001 21:57:19 +0530 " krushna kalani J.K. " ><krushanain writes: > > Dear Sylvia, > > Yes you are correct, for the result of 7th house, points of > > jupiter > > should not be added, so Saturn will remain with 18 points. Still it > > is power > > ful, and natural samdharmi to lord of D. Si it given the chance. Now > > in this > > case note that Jupiter sub was before this, and in the jupiter sub > > the > > transit of jupiter was from 11th house, as per vedic astrology it > > was more > > favorable period, but as Jupiter is sixth lord, it can not give > > result. > > Saturn which is having sight on 11th house 'C', only being > > samdharmei to > > Venus, lord of 'D', geven the marriage. In india the girls get > > married at > > early age,about (18 years, it is changed now due to education ), She > > was > > about 25 years, at the time of marriage. This was a case of delayed > > marriage. Sun Venus difference is about 46 degrees, and Saturn is > > aspecting > > Venus (navmansha) and one of the lumenery, Sun is with Saturn. > > krushna > > > > > > > > >sylvia linzner <sylvia261 > > > > > > > > >Re: 12th lord > > >Thu, 4 Jan 2001 07:14:36 -0800 > > > > > >Dear Krushna, > > >I am sorry I didn't explain myself very well, I know that the 12th > > lord > > >is counted from house B, what I was trying to ask is on the example > > >worksheet on page 35 of the lessons, Juipter is the 12 lord from > > house B > > >for the 7th house and sun, mercury and saturn are in tenth house > > from > > >jupiter , saturn gets the points from jupiter. I thought we were > > suppose > > >to deduct the points. > > >Sylvia > > > > > >On Tue, 02 Jan 2001 23:03:19 +0530 " krushna kalani J.K. " > > ><krushanain writes: > > > > Dear Sylvia, > > > > > > > > 12th lord means the lord of the house which is 12th > > from > > > > house 'B'. > > > > We do not mean 12th lord of the chart. If it is with 4 points it > > > > will not > > > > get points from the planet situated in 4th house from it, until > > it > > > > is lord > > > > of house 'D' and 'E'. > > > > No planet gives points to 4th planet, What you say is > > some > > > > thing > > > > confusing. Points are given to 10th planet not to 4th planet. > > > > Krushna > > > > > > > > > > > > >sylvia linzner <sylvia261 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 12th lord > > > > >Tue, 2 Jan 2001 08:41:12 -0800 > > > > > > > > > >Dear Krushna and list, > > > > >If a planet is 12th lord and it has 4 bindus points it will > > give > > > > its > > > > >points to the 4th planet from it, and we don't have to deduct > > the > > > > points > > > > >because of it being the 12th lord? > > > > >example page 35 of the lessons Jupiter is 12th lord with 4 > > bindus > > > > points > > > > >Saturn gets its 14 points so we don't deduct the 14 points from > > > > Saturn? > > > > >Is it because Jupiter has 4 bindus points and is neutral? > > > > >Sylvia > > > > > > >______________ > > > > >GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! > > > > >Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! > > > > >Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: > > > > >http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. > > > > > > > > > > > >______________________ >_ > > > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at > > > > http://www.hotmail.com. > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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