Guest guest Posted January 12, 2001 Report Share Posted January 12, 2001 Dear Detective - Call it “list-crossing,†J but I thought it might be an interesting and educational exercise, for those interested, to do the Ashtakavarga Charts on JonBenet Ramsey, since I just completed a fairly lengthy analysis of her chart for the System’s Approach list. I think that'd be a great idea! I will be uploading the next version of the Upachaya program very shortly, which will allow anyone to manipulate the bindus and drag and drop them wherever they want to on the chart, so it should be fun. Doc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2001 Report Share Posted January 12, 2001 Dear Krushna and List Members, Call it “list-crossing,” J but I thought it might be an interesting and educational exercise, for those interested, to do the Ashtakavarga Charts on JonBenet Ramsey, since I just completed a fairly lengthy analysis of her chart for the System’s Approach list. We could perhaps view the deeper details of her life and the true character of her parents through the study of the Ashtakavarga Charts, and get a more in depth clue as to the mysteries surrounding her life and death. If there is an interest in attempting this, her birth details and bio can be found at my website http://www.jupitersweb.com . Just click on ~ Sandy’s Suite ~, scroll down and you will see JonBenet Ramsey. This case is an unresolved murder. Just a thought… ~Namaste~ Sandy http://www.jupitersweb.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2001 Report Share Posted January 16, 2001 Dear Sandy, I like to study such charts. I will open it from your Jupiterweb site. Thanks krushna > " Sandy Crowther " <sandy > > " Astrologyandtimingevents (AT) Egroups (DOT) Com " > > Ashtakavarga suggestion... >Fri, 12 Jan 2001 11:46:04 -0500 > >Dear Krushna and List Members, > >Call it “list-crossing,” :-) but I thought it might be an interesting and >educational exercise, for those interested, to do the Ashtakavarga Charts >on >JonBenet Ramsey, since I just completed a fairly lengthy analysis of her >chart for the System’s Approach list. > >We could perhaps view the deeper details of her life and the true character >of her parents through the study of the Ashtakavarga Charts, and get a more >in depth clue as to the mysteries surrounding her life and death. If there >is an interest in attempting this, her birth details and bio can be found >at >my website http://www.jupitersweb.com <http://www.jupitersweb.com/> . Just >click on ~ Sandy’s Suite ~, scroll down and you will see JonBenet Ramsey. >This case is an unresolved murder. Just a thought… > > ~Namaste~ > Sandy >http://www.jupitersweb.com/ <http://www.jupitersweb.com/> > _______________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2001 Report Share Posted January 17, 2001 Dear Sandy and list members The chart of JonBenet Ramsay, is very good for study purpose. It will clear some of the fundamentals of the students. I found some difference in the latitude for the birth place. It should be 33N45 instead of given by you 22N45. This will effect only in the swoday kal of the signs, in ascendent and degree of the asc. Birth data is as follows : D.O.B. 6th Aug 1990 B.Time 0:36 (excluding D.S.T.)Place of Birth Atlanta, Georgia (33N45, 84:W23), Ayanansha 22:42:12 Ascendent 01:07:50 (Taurus) Planets are as follows: Sun: 03:20:49 Can. Moon 09:16:29 Cap. Mars 00:23:11 Ar. Mercury 04:17:33 Leo, Jupiter: 03:4:41 Can. Venus: 02:27:57 Gem. Saturn: 08:27:43 , Rahu 09:14:41 Cap. Ketu 03:14:41 Can. It can be seen from the chart that moon is with in 2 degree from Rahu, gets afflicted. The Ascendent is having 37 points in sarvastak, which indicates some what eccentric nature and much proudy. The Karak of 3rd house, the Moon is aspected by Sun and Moon having 5 points, so Points of moon reduced by 10 points for each house. The Moon became very weak for all the houses. Only for Lagna it gets 13 points, ( more then 12) for all other houses it gets less points. for 2nd = 0, 3rd =1, 4th =3, 5th= 9, 6th= 3, 7th =-1, 8th =2, 9th =4, 10th = 1 and 12th gets 1. Moon being the karak of life 3rd house is weak. The Venus is strongest significator for 3rd house, gets points from Saturn , lord of 9th house. The Venus and Saturn are natural samdharmi. The Mars is situated in the 4th place from Moon ( We do not consider this for getting any points ) The Moon being the karak of life and Mars in the fourth place from Moon, though it will not give any points to moon, but it will do the work for moon. The life of the native is short, as Moon is weakest significator. The death can be in the sub of Mercury or Venus so Saturn also. In the main period of Moon in sub of Mercury and Venus, the native must have experienced some events similar, may be harmful to the life. In Mars main period Rahu sub represents Moon and Saturn ( Venus) can also give danger to life. and that happened on 26th Dec 1996. The Venus is responsible for the death and it gets points from Saturn lord of 9th house ( father). Moon represents the Mother, so the event must be related to mother and father of the native. I am in hurry so more in next mail. krushna , " Sandy Crowther " <sandy@t...> wrote: > Dear Krushna and List Members, > > Call it " list-crossing, " :-) but I thought it might be an interesting and > educational exercise, for those interested, to do the Ashtakavarga Charts on > JonBenet Ramsey, since I just completed a fairly lengthy analysis of her > chart for the System's Approach list. > > We could perhaps view the deeper details of her life and the true character > of her parents through the study of the Ashtakavarga Charts, and get a more > in depth clue as to the mysteries surrounding her life and death. If there > is an interest in attempting this, her birth details and bio can be found at > my website http://www.jupitersweb.com <http://www.jupitersweb.com/> . Just > click on ~ Sandy's Suite ~, scroll down and you will see JonBenet Ramsey. > This case is an unresolved murder. Just a thought… > > ~Namaste~ > Sandy > http://www.jupitersweb.com/ <http://www.jupitersweb.com/> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2001 Report Share Posted January 18, 2001 Dear Krushna and List Members, Krushna wrote: Dear Sandy and list members The chart of JonBenet Ramsay, is very good for study purpose. It will clear some of the fundamentals of the students. I found some difference in the latitude for the birth place. It should be 33N45 instead of given by you 22N45. This will effect only in the swoday kal of the signs, in ascendent and degree of the asc. That was a typo (typing error) on my website - I DID use 33N45 for the chart. THANKS so much for spotting that - I did go in this morning to my site and re-publish so the typing error is now corrected! So basically the only difference will be through the difference in the Lahiri ayanamsa (which is what I used for my analysis) versus the Krushna ayanamsa which we use here for the ashtakavarga charts....Thanks Krushna! ~Namaste~ Sandy http://www.jupitersweb.com/ Birth data is as follows : D.O.B. 6th Aug 1990 B.Time 0:36 (excluding D.S.T.)Place of Birth Atlanta, Georgia (33N45, 84:W23), Ayanansha 22:42:12 Ascendent 01:07:50 (Taurus) Planets are as follows: Sun: 03:20:49 Can. Moon 09:16:29 Cap. Mars 00:23:11 Ar. Mercury 04:17:33 Leo, Jupiter: 03:4:41 Can. Venus: 02:27:57 Gem. Saturn: 08:27:43 , Rahu 09:14:41 Cap. Ketu 03:14:41 Can. It can be seen from the chart that moon is with in 2 degree from Rahu, gets afflicted. The Ascendent is having 37 points in sarvastak, which indicates some what eccentric nature and much proudy. The Karak of 3rd house, the Moon is aspected by Sun and Moon having 5 points, so Points of moon reduced by 10 points for each house. The Moon became very weak for all the houses. Only for Lagna it gets 13 points, ( more then 12) for all other houses it gets less points. for 2nd = 0, 3rd =1, 4th =3, 5th= 9, 6th= 3, 7th =-1, 8th =2, 9th =4, 10th = 1 and 12th gets 1. Moon being the karak of life 3rd house is weak. The Venus is strongest significator for 3rd house, gets points from Saturn , lord of 9th house. The Venus and Saturn are natural samdharmi. The Mars is situated in the 4th place from Moon ( We do not consider this for getting any points ) The Moon being the karak of life and Mars in the fourth place from Moon, though it will not give any points to moon, but it will do the work for moon. The life of the native is short, as Moon is weakest significator. The death can be in the sub of Mercury or Venus so Saturn also. In the main period of Moon in sub of Mercury and Venus, the native must have experienced some events similar, may be harmful to the life. In Mars main period Rahu sub represents Moon and Saturn ( Venus) can also give danger to life. and that happened on 26th Dec 1996. The Venus is responsible for the death and it gets points from Saturn lord of 9th house ( father). Moon represents the Mother, so the event must be related to mother and father of the native. I am in hurry so more in next mail. krushna , " Sandy Crowther " <sandy@t...> wrote: > Dear Krushna and List Members, > > Call it " list-crossing, " :-) but I thought it might be an interesting and > educational exercise, for those interested, to do the Ashtakavarga Charts on > JonBenet Ramsey, since I just completed a fairly lengthy analysis of her > chart for the System's Approach list. > > We could perhaps view the deeper details of her life and the true character > of her parents through the study of the Ashtakavarga Charts, and get a more > in depth clue as to the mysteries surrounding her life and death. If there > is an interest in attempting this, her birth details and bio can be found at > my website http://www.jupitersweb.com <http://www.jupitersweb.com/> . Just > click on ~ Sandy's Suite ~, scroll down and you will see JonBenet Ramsey. > This case is an unresolved murder. Just a thought... > > ~Namaste~ > Sandy > http://www.jupitersweb.com/ <http://www.jupitersweb.com/> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2001 Report Share Posted January 18, 2001 , " krushna " <krushanain@h...> wrote: > Dear Sandy and list members > The chart of JonBenet Ramsay, is very good for study purpose. > It will clear some of the fundamentals of the students. > I found some difference in the latitude for the birth place. > It should be 33N45 instead of given by you 22N45. This will effect > only in the swoday kal of the signs, in ascendent and degree of the > asc. > Birth data is as follows : > D.O.B. 6th Aug 1990 B.Time 0:36 (excluding D.S.T.)Place of Birth > Atlanta, Georgia (33N45, 84:W23), Ayanansha 22:42:12 > Ascendent 01:07:50 (Taurus) > Planets are as follows: > Sun: 03:20:49 Can. Moon 09:16:29 Cap. Mars 00:23:11 Ar. > Mercury 04:17:33 Leo, Jupiter: 03:4:41 Can. Venus: 02:27:57 Gem. > Saturn: 08:27:43 , Rahu 09:14:41 Cap. Ketu 03:14:41 Can. > It can be seen from the chart that moon is with in 2 degree from > Rahu, gets afflicted. The Ascendent is having 37 points in sarvastak, > which indicates some what eccentric nature and much proudy. The Karak > of 3rd house, the Moon is aspected by Sun and Moon having 5 points, > so Points of moon reduced by 10 points for each house. The Moon > became very weak for all the houses. Only for Lagna it gets 13 > points, ( more then 12) for all other houses it gets less points. for > 2nd = 0, 3rd =1, 4th =3, 5th= 9, 6th= 3, 7th =-1, 8th =2, 9th =4, > 10th = 1 and 12th gets 1. > Moon being the karak of life 3rd house is weak. The Venus is > strongest significator for 3rd house, gets points from Saturn , lord > of 9th house. The Venus and Saturn are natural samdharmi. > The Mars is situated in the 4th place from Moon ( We do not consider > this for getting any points ) The Moon being the karak of life and > Mars in the fourth place from Moon, though it will not give any > points to moon, but it will do the work for moon. > The life of the native is short, as Moon is weakest significator. The > death can be in the sub of Mercury or Venus so Saturn also. In the > main period of Moon in sub of Mercury and Venus, the native must have > experienced some events similar, may be harmful to the life. > In Mars main period Rahu sub represents Moon and Saturn ( Venus) > can also give danger to life. and that happened on 26th Dec 1996. The > Venus is responsible for the death and it gets points from Saturn > lord of 9th house ( father). Moon represents the Mother, so the event > must be related to mother and father of the native. I am in hurry so > more in next mail. > krushna > cINTINUED AGAIN The moon being the karak for longevity, is spoiled, so the life is shortened. It can be judged easily by just solving the chart. Any body following this system could have judged about the longevity before hand. The transit of Sun on the day of dseath is in the constellation of Ketu, means again Moon and Saturn. and in ther sign of Jupiter. The person involved is represented by the significator planet getting more points. The venus is in 2nd house, means the responsible for the cause is 2nd house, means family member. Now Venus gets power due to Saturn, lord of 9th and 10th house. Points out to words father, or the leading person of the family. The Moon lord of 3rd is weak, So mother may be knowing the fact, but unable to oppose. GENERALLY IT IS OBSERVED THAT AT THE TIME OF DEATH THE MAIN PERIOD OF 3RD HOUSE, OR SAMDHARMI AND SUB OF STRONG SIGNIFICATOR OR LORD OF ASCENDENT OR 5TH HOUSE ARE RESPONSIBLE. IF THEY HAVE ANY RELATION WITH 6TH HOUSE THEN IT IS MURDER OR FATAL ACCIDENT. > KRUSHNA > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2001 Report Share Posted January 18, 2001 Dear Krushna and List Members, Thank you Krushna for your comments...It is quite interesting and reassuring to me that we have reached similar conclusions using different methods and systems of analysis. Jyotish in action! The Moon in this chart is exceptionally revealing to me. I plan to study the JonBenet ashtakavarga charts in depth to further integrate the values and gems apparent in this system of yours. I think this chart has so much to offer in the way of understanding, if studied in detail. Thanks for the valuable feedback... P.S. I'm not sure you saw my earlier post but the longitude listed on my site was a typing error - I did, in fact, use the correct coordinates in my analysis. ~Namaste~ Sandy http://www.jupitersweb.com/ krushna [krushanain] Thursday, January 18, 2001 3:00 PM Re: Ashtakavarga suggestion... , " krushna " <krushanain@h...> wrote: > Dear Sandy and list members > The chart of JonBenet Ramsay, is very good for study purpose. > It will clear some of the fundamentals of the students. > I found some difference in the latitude for the birth place. > It should be 33N45 instead of given by you 22N45. This will effect > only in the swoday kal of the signs, in ascendent and degree of the > asc. > Birth data is as follows : > D.O.B. 6th Aug 1990 B.Time 0:36 (excluding D.S.T.)Place of Birth > Atlanta, Georgia (33N45, 84:W23), Ayanansha 22:42:12 > Ascendent 01:07:50 (Taurus) > Planets are as follows: > Sun: 03:20:49 Can. Moon 09:16:29 Cap. Mars 00:23:11 Ar. > Mercury 04:17:33 Leo, Jupiter: 03:4:41 Can. Venus: 02:27:57 Gem. > Saturn: 08:27:43 , Rahu 09:14:41 Cap. Ketu 03:14:41 Can. > It can be seen from the chart that moon is with in 2 degree from > Rahu, gets afflicted. The Ascendent is having 37 points in sarvastak, > which indicates some what eccentric nature and much proudy. The Karak > of 3rd house, the Moon is aspected by Sun and Moon having 5 points, > so Points of moon reduced by 10 points for each house. The Moon > became very weak for all the houses. Only for Lagna it gets 13 > points, ( more then 12) for all other houses it gets less points. for > 2nd = 0, 3rd =1, 4th =3, 5th= 9, 6th= 3, 7th =-1, 8th =2, 9th =4, > 10th = 1 and 12th gets 1. > Moon being the karak of life 3rd house is weak. The Venus is > strongest significator for 3rd house, gets points from Saturn , lord > of 9th house. The Venus and Saturn are natural samdharmi. > The Mars is situated in the 4th place from Moon ( We do not consider > this for getting any points ) The Moon being the karak of life and > Mars in the fourth place from Moon, though it will not give any > points to moon, but it will do the work for moon. > The life of the native is short, as Moon is weakest significator. The > death can be in the sub of Mercury or Venus so Saturn also. In the > main period of Moon in sub of Mercury and Venus, the native must have > experienced some events similar, may be harmful to the life. > In Mars main period Rahu sub represents Moon and Saturn ( Venus) > can also give danger to life. and that happened on 26th Dec 1996. The > Venus is responsible for the death and it gets points from Saturn > lord of 9th house ( father). Moon represents the Mother, so the event > must be related to mother and father of the native. I am in hurry so > more in next mail. > krushna > cINTINUED AGAIN The moon being the karak for longevity, is spoiled, so the life is shortened. It can be judged easily by just solving the chart. Any body following this system could have judged about the longevity before hand. The transit of Sun on the day of dseath is in the constellation of Ketu, means again Moon and Saturn. and in ther sign of Jupiter. The person involved is represented by the significator planet getting more points. The venus is in 2nd house, means the responsible for the cause is 2nd house, means family member. Now Venus gets power due to Saturn, lord of 9th and 10th house. Points out to words father, or the leading person of the family. The Moon lord of 3rd is weak, So mother may be knowing the fact, but unable to oppose. GENERALLY IT IS OBSERVED THAT AT THE TIME OF DEATH THE MAIN PERIOD OF 3RD HOUSE, OR SAMDHARMI AND SUB OF STRONG SIGNIFICATOR OR LORD OF ASCENDENT OR 5TH HOUSE ARE RESPONSIBLE. IF THEY HAVE ANY RELATION WITH 6TH HOUSE THEN IT IS MURDER OR FATAL ACCIDENT. > KRUSHNA > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2001 Report Share Posted January 18, 2001 Dear Sandy, and all list members, Thanks for your answer. The astakvarg system gives numerical values for each planet. which makes it more easy to judge the strength of the planet. The result pertaining to karkatva of the planet can be ascertain to very accuracy. The Moon in this case do not have any power, or considering 12 points as minimum power, it has negative strength. It is lord of 3rd house, 8th from eight house, so mainly indicates the longevity of the native. This system makes it easy, for any person, having knowedge of basic astrology, to find the results with very reasonable accuracy. The Jupiter, which is said to be very aspicious planet, gives very bad results. When it is lord of sixth house, it always spoils the results of the house, on which it have malefic aspects(jupiter with more points). In this case the Jupiter is situated in 3rd house, with 5 points, it is lord of 8th and 11th, takes away the power of Moon. Venus which is lord of sixth, situated in 2nd with 5 points, also aspects 8th house with malefic sight. The degree of Venus and Saturn is very close, only a difference of 14 min., so in navamansha Moon and Rahu are also in close association, and are in navamansha of Venus. Saturn in 8th is also in navamansha of eight lord. ( THIS IS THE EFFECT OF MY AYANASHA, WHICH GIVES PERFECT RESULTS) The Mars is also in navamansha of sixth lord. The Moon if seen in all the 16 charts gets power in 5 charts. Now it is having negative power, so the effect in negative direction is increased.( In Navamansha it is in taurus, In Drekkana also in Taurus, in Dwadashna it is in Cancer, In Chaturthsmsa in Cancer and in Chatvarimsamsa in Cancer.) krushna > " Sandy Crowther " <sandy > > >RE: Re: Ashtakavarga suggestion... >Thu, 18 Jan 2001 21:25:16 -0500 > >Dear Krushna and List Members, > >Thank you Krushna for your comments...It is quite interesting and >reassuring >to me that we have reached similar conclusions using different methods and >systems of analysis. Jyotish in action! The Moon in this chart is >exceptionally revealing to me. > >I plan to study the JonBenet ashtakavarga charts in depth to further >integrate the values and gems apparent in this system of yours. I think >this chart has so much to offer in the way of understanding, if studied in >detail. Thanks for the valuable feedback... > >P.S. I'm not sure you saw my earlier post but the longitude listed on my >site was a typing error - I did, in fact, use the correct coordinates in my >analysis. > > ~Namaste~ > Sandy >http://www.jupitersweb.com/ > > >krushna [krushanain] >Thursday, January 18, 2001 3:00 PM > > Re: Ashtakavarga suggestion... > > , " krushna " ><krushanain@h...> wrote: > > Dear Sandy and list members > > The chart of JonBenet Ramsay, is very good for study >purpose. > > It will clear some of the fundamentals of the students. > > I found some difference in the latitude for the birth place. > > It should be 33N45 instead of given by you 22N45. This will effect > > only in the swoday kal of the signs, in ascendent and degree of the > > asc. > > Birth data is as follows : > > D.O.B. 6th Aug 1990 B.Time 0:36 (excluding D.S.T.)Place of Birth > > Atlanta, Georgia (33N45, 84:W23), Ayanansha 22:42:12 > > Ascendent 01:07:50 (Taurus) > > Planets are as follows: > > Sun: 03:20:49 Can. Moon 09:16:29 Cap. Mars 00:23:11 Ar. > > Mercury 04:17:33 Leo, Jupiter: 03:4:41 Can. Venus: 02:27:57 Gem. > > Saturn: 08:27:43 , Rahu 09:14:41 Cap. Ketu 03:14:41 Can. > > It can be seen from the chart that moon is with in 2 degree from > > Rahu, gets afflicted. The Ascendent is having 37 points in >sarvastak, > > which indicates some what eccentric nature and much proudy. The >Karak > > of 3rd house, the Moon is aspected by Sun and Moon having 5 points, > > so Points of moon reduced by 10 points for each house. The Moon > > became very weak for all the houses. Only for Lagna it gets 13 > > points, ( more then 12) for all other houses it gets less points. >for > > 2nd = 0, 3rd =1, 4th =3, 5th= 9, 6th= 3, 7th =-1, 8th =2, 9th =4, > > 10th = 1 and 12th gets 1. > > Moon being the karak of life 3rd house is weak. The Venus is > > strongest significator for 3rd house, gets points from Saturn , >lord > > of 9th house. The Venus and Saturn are natural samdharmi. > > The Mars is situated in the 4th place from Moon ( We do not >consider > > this for getting any points ) The Moon being the karak of life and > > Mars in the fourth place from Moon, though it will not give any > > points to moon, but it will do the work for moon. > > The life of the native is short, as Moon is weakest significator. >The > > death can be in the sub of Mercury or Venus so Saturn also. In the > > main period of Moon in sub of Mercury and Venus, the native must >have > > experienced some events similar, may be harmful to the life. > > In Mars main period Rahu sub represents Moon and Saturn ( >Venus) > > can also give danger to life. and that happened on 26th Dec 1996. >The > > Venus is responsible for the death and it gets points from Saturn > > lord of 9th house ( father). Moon represents the Mother, so the >event > > must be related to mother and father of the native. I am in hurry >so > > more in next mail. > > krushna > > cINTINUED AGAIN > The moon being the karak for longevity, is spoiled, so the >life is shortened. It can be judged easily by just solving the chart. >Any body following this system could have judged about the longevity >before hand. The transit of Sun on the day of dseath is in the >constellation of Ketu, means again Moon and Saturn. and in ther sign >of Jupiter. > The person involved is represented by the significator >planet getting more points. The venus is in 2nd house, means the >responsible for the cause is 2nd house, means family member. Now >Venus gets power due to Saturn, lord of 9th and 10th house. Points >out to words father, or the leading person of the family. The Moon >lord of 3rd is weak, So mother may be knowing the fact, but unable to >oppose. > GENERALLY IT IS OBSERVED THAT AT THE TIME OF DEATH THE MAIN >PERIOD OF 3RD HOUSE, OR SAMDHARMI AND SUB OF STRONG SIGNIFICATOR OR >LORD OF ASCENDENT OR 5TH HOUSE ARE RESPONSIBLE. IF THEY HAVE ANY >RELATION WITH 6TH HOUSE THEN IT IS MURDER OR FATAL ACCIDENT. > > KRUSHNA > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2001 Report Share Posted January 21, 2001 Respected Krushna, I studied this chart of Jonbennet Ramsey born 6th of august 1990 who died on 26th december 1996. I can follow the reasoning and see how weak the Moon becomes and all other factors you mention. But how it the transit of the Sun in the last degree of Mula linked to the death ? I see the nodes are both linked to Moon and Saturn through sign and Nakshatra position but I don't see which rule to apply for the transit of the Sun. Best regards Margarita - krushna kalani J.K. Friday, January 19, 2001 7:33 AM RE: Re: Ashtakavarga suggestion... Dear Sandy, and all list members, Thanks for your answer. The astakvarg system gives numerical values for each planet. which makes it more easy to judge the strength of the planet. The result pertaining to karkatva of the planet can be ascertain to very accuracy. The Moon in this case do not have any power, or considering 12 points as minimum power, it has negative strength. It is lord of 3rd house, 8th from eight house, so mainly indicates the longevity of the native. This system makes it easy, for any person, having knowedge of basic astrology, to find the results with very reasonable accuracy. The Jupiter, which is said to be very aspicious planet, gives very bad results. When it is lord of sixth house, it always spoils the results of the house, on which it have malefic aspects(jupiter with more points). In this case the Jupiter is situated in 3rd house, with 5 points, it is lord of 8th and 11th, takes away the power of Moon. Venus which is lord of sixth, situated in 2nd with 5 points, also aspects 8th house with malefic sight. The degree of Venus and Saturn is very close, only a difference of 14 min., so in navamansha Moon and Rahu are also in close association, and are in navamansha of Venus. Saturn in 8th is also in navamansha of eight lord. ( THIS IS THE EFFECT OF MY AYANASHA, WHICH GIVES PERFECT RESULTS) The Mars is also in navamansha of sixth lord. The Moon if seen in all the 16 charts gets power in 5 charts. Now it is having negative power, so the effect in negative direction is increased.( In Navamansha it is in taurus, In Drekkana also in Taurus, in Dwadashna it is in Cancer, In Chaturthsmsa in Cancer and in Chatvarimsamsa in Cancer.)krushna>"Sandy Crowther" <sandy> >>RE: Re: Ashtakavarga suggestion...>Thu, 18 Jan 2001 21:25:16 -0500>>Dear Krushna and List Members,>>Thank you Krushna for your comments...It is quite interesting and >reassuring>to me that we have reached similar conclusions using different methods and>systems of analysis. Jyotish in action! The Moon in this chart is>exceptionally revealing to me.>>I plan to study the JonBenet ashtakavarga charts in depth to further>integrate the values and gems apparent in this system of yours. I think>this chart has so much to offer in the way of understanding, if studied in>detail. Thanks for the valuable feedback...>>P.S. I'm not sure you saw my earlier post but the longitude listed on my>site was a typing error - I did, in fact, use the correct coordinates in my>analysis.>> ~Namaste~> Sandy>http://www.jupitersweb.com/>>-----Original Message----->krushna [krushanain]>Thursday, January 18, 2001 3:00 PM> > Re: Ashtakavarga suggestion...>> , "krushna "><krushanain@h...> wrote:> > Dear Sandy and list members> > The chart of JonBenet Ramsay, is very good for study>purpose.> > It will clear some of the fundamentals of the students.> > I found some difference in the latitude for the birth place.> > It should be 33N45 instead of given by you 22N45. This will effect> > only in the swoday kal of the signs, in ascendent and degree of the> > asc.> > Birth data is as follows :> > D.O.B. 6th Aug 1990 B.Time 0:36 (excluding D.S.T.)Place of Birth> > Atlanta, Georgia (33N45, 84:W23), Ayanansha 22:42:12> > Ascendent 01:07:50 (Taurus)> > Planets are as follows:> > Sun: 03:20:49 Can. Moon 09:16:29 Cap. Mars 00:23:11 Ar.> > Mercury 04:17:33 Leo, Jupiter: 03:4:41 Can. Venus: 02:27:57 Gem.> > Saturn: 08:27:43 , Rahu 09:14:41 Cap. Ketu 03:14:41 Can.> > It can be seen from the chart that moon is with in 2 degree from> > Rahu, gets afflicted. The Ascendent is having 37 points in>sarvastak,> > which indicates some what eccentric nature and much proudy. The>Karak> > of 3rd house, the Moon is aspected by Sun and Moon having 5 points,> > so Points of moon reduced by 10 points for each house. The Moon> > became very weak for all the houses. Only for Lagna it gets 13> > points, ( more then 12) for all other houses it gets less points.>for> > 2nd = 0, 3rd =1, 4th =3, 5th= 9, 6th= 3, 7th =-1, 8th =2, 9th =4,> > 10th = 1 and 12th gets 1.> > Moon being the karak of life 3rd house is weak. The Venus is> > strongest significator for 3rd house, gets points from Saturn ,>lord> > of 9th house. The Venus and Saturn are natural samdharmi.> > The Mars is situated in the 4th place from Moon ( We do not>consider> > this for getting any points ) The Moon being the karak of life and> > Mars in the fourth place from Moon, though it will not give any> > points to moon, but it will do the work for moon.> > The life of the native is short, as Moon is weakest significator.>The> > death can be in the sub of Mercury or Venus so Saturn also. In the> > main period of Moon in sub of Mercury and Venus, the native must>have> > experienced some events similar, may be harmful to the life.> > In Mars main period Rahu sub represents Moon and Saturn (>Venus)> > can also give danger to life. and that happened on 26th Dec 1996.>The> > Venus is responsible for the death and it gets points from Saturn> > lord of 9th house ( father). Moon represents the Mother, so the>event> > must be related to mother and father of the native. I am in hurry>so> > more in next mail.> > krushna> > cINTINUED AGAIN> The moon being the karak for longevity, is spoiled, so the>life is shortened. It can be judged easily by just solving the chart.>Any body following this system could have judged about the longevity>before hand. The transit of Sun on the day of dseath is in the>constellation of Ketu, means again Moon and Saturn. and in ther sign>of Jupiter.> The person involved is represented by the significator>planet getting more points. The venus is in 2nd house, means the>responsible for the cause is 2nd house, means family member. Now>Venus gets power due to Saturn, lord of 9th and 10th house. Points>out to words father, or the leading person of the family. The Moon>lord of 3rd is weak, So mother may be knowing the fact, but unable to>oppose.> GENERALLY IT IS OBSERVED THAT AT THE TIME OF DEATH THE MAIN>PERIOD OF 3RD HOUSE, OR SAMDHARMI AND SUB OF STRONG SIGNIFICATOR OR>LORD OF ASCENDENT OR 5TH HOUSE ARE RESPONSIBLE. IF THEY HAVE ANY>RELATION WITH 6TH HOUSE THEN IT IS MURDER OR FATAL ACCIDENT.> > KRUSHNA> >>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2001 Report Share Posted January 22, 2001 Dear Margarita, The date of the event is determined from the transit of the sun. The transit in the powerful or second powerful planets in their sign or constellation, generally the event happens. In this case the Venus is the powerful planet, and is samdharmi to Saturn. Jupiter is 3rd significator. So transit of sun in the sign of Jupiter and in the constellation of Ketu ( Saturn) gives the events. krushna > " Lettens " <dmlettens > > >Re: Re: Ashtakavarga suggestion... >Sun, 21 Jan 2001 21:44:23 +0100 > >Respected Krushna, >I studied this chart of Jonbennet Ramsey born 6th of august 1990 who died >on 26th december 1996. >I can follow the reasoning and see how weak the Moon becomes and all other >factors you mention. But >how it the transit of the Sun in the last degree of Mula linked to the >death ? I see the nodes are both linked >to Moon and Saturn through sign and Nakshatra position but I don't see >which rule to apply for the transit >of the Sun. >Best regards >Margarita > - > krushna kalani J.K. > > Friday, January 19, 2001 7:33 AM > RE: Re: Ashtakavarga suggestion... > > > Dear Sandy, and all list members, > Thanks for your answer. The astakvarg system gives numerical >values > for each planet. which makes it more easy to judge the strength of the > planet. The result pertaining to karkatva of the planet can be ascertain >to > very accuracy. The Moon in this case do not have any power, or >considering > 12 points as minimum power, it has negative strength. It is lord of 3rd > house, 8th from eight house, so mainly indicates the longevity of the > native. This system makes it easy, for any person, having knowedge of >basic > astrology, to find the results with very reasonable accuracy. > The Jupiter, which is said to be very aspicious planet, gives >very > bad results. When it is lord of sixth house, it always spoils the >results of > the house, on which it have malefic aspects(jupiter with more points). >In > this case the Jupiter is situated in 3rd house, with 5 points, it is >lord of > 8th and 11th, takes away the power of Moon. Venus which is lord of >sixth, > situated in 2nd with 5 points, also aspects 8th house with malefic >sight. > The degree of Venus and Saturn is very close, only a difference of 14 >min., > so in navamansha Moon and Rahu are also in close association, and are >in > navamansha of Venus. Saturn in 8th is also in navamansha of eight lord. >( > THIS IS THE EFFECT OF MY AYANASHA, WHICH GIVES PERFECT RESULTS) > The Mars is also in navamansha of sixth lord. > The Moon if seen in all the 16 charts gets power in 5 charts. >Now > it is having negative power, so the effect in negative direction is > increased.( In Navamansha it is in taurus, In Drekkana also in Taurus, >in > Dwadashna it is in Cancer, In Chaturthsmsa in Cancer and in >Chatvarimsamsa > in Cancer.) > krushna > > > > " Sandy Crowther " <sandy > > > > > >RE: Re: Ashtakavarga suggestion... > >Thu, 18 Jan 2001 21:25:16 -0500 > > > >Dear Krushna and List Members, > > > >Thank you Krushna for your comments...It is quite interesting and > >reassuring > >to me that we have reached similar conclusions using different methods >and > >systems of analysis. Jyotish in action! The Moon in this chart is > >exceptionally revealing to me. > > > >I plan to study the JonBenet ashtakavarga charts in depth to further > >integrate the values and gems apparent in this system of yours. I >think > >this chart has so much to offer in the way of understanding, if studied >in > >detail. Thanks for the valuable feedback... > > > >P.S. I'm not sure you saw my earlier post but the longitude listed on >my > >site was a typing error - I did, in fact, use the correct coordinates >in my > >analysis. > > > > ~Namaste~ > > Sandy > >http://www.jupitersweb.com/ > > > > > >krushna [krushanain] > >Thursday, January 18, 2001 3:00 PM > > > > Re: Ashtakavarga suggestion... > > > > , " krushna " > ><krushanain@h...> wrote: > > > Dear Sandy and list members > > > The chart of JonBenet Ramsay, is very good for study > >purpose. > > > It will clear some of the fundamentals of the students. > > > I found some difference in the latitude for the birth place. > > > It should be 33N45 instead of given by you 22N45. This will effect > > > only in the swoday kal of the signs, in ascendent and degree of the > > > asc. > > > Birth data is as follows : > > > D.O.B. 6th Aug 1990 B.Time 0:36 (excluding D.S.T.)Place of Birth > > > Atlanta, Georgia (33N45, 84:W23), Ayanansha 22:42:12 > > > Ascendent 01:07:50 (Taurus) > > > Planets are as follows: > > > Sun: 03:20:49 Can. Moon 09:16:29 Cap. Mars 00:23:11 Ar. > > > Mercury 04:17:33 Leo, Jupiter: 03:4:41 Can. Venus: 02:27:57 Gem. > > > Saturn: 08:27:43 , Rahu 09:14:41 Cap. Ketu 03:14:41 Can. > > > It can be seen from the chart that moon is with in 2 degree from > > > Rahu, gets afflicted. The Ascendent is having 37 points in > >sarvastak, > > > which indicates some what eccentric nature and much proudy. The > >Karak > > > of 3rd house, the Moon is aspected by Sun and Moon having 5 points, > > > so Points of moon reduced by 10 points for each house. The Moon > > > became very weak for all the houses. Only for Lagna it gets 13 > > > points, ( more then 12) for all other houses it gets less points. > >for > > > 2nd = 0, 3rd =1, 4th =3, 5th= 9, 6th= 3, 7th =-1, 8th =2, 9th =4, > > > 10th = 1 and 12th gets 1. > > > Moon being the karak of life 3rd house is weak. The Venus is > > > strongest significator for 3rd house, gets points from Saturn , > >lord > > > of 9th house. The Venus and Saturn are natural samdharmi. > > > The Mars is situated in the 4th place from Moon ( We do not > >consider > > > this for getting any points ) The Moon being the karak of life and > > > Mars in the fourth place from Moon, though it will not give any > > > points to moon, but it will do the work for moon. > > > The life of the native is short, as Moon is weakest significator. > >The > > > death can be in the sub of Mercury or Venus so Saturn also. In the > > > main period of Moon in sub of Mercury and Venus, the native must > >have > > > experienced some events similar, may be harmful to the life. > > > In Mars main period Rahu sub represents Moon and Saturn ( > >Venus) > > > can also give danger to life. and that happened on 26th Dec 1996. > >The > > > Venus is responsible for the death and it gets points from Saturn > > > lord of 9th house ( father). Moon represents the Mother, so the > >event > > > must be related to mother and father of the native. I am in hurry > >so > > > more in next mail. > > > krushna > > > cINTINUED AGAIN > > The moon being the karak for longevity, is spoiled, so the > >life is shortened. It can be judged easily by just solving the chart. > >Any body following this system could have judged about the longevity > >before hand. The transit of Sun on the day of dseath is in the > >constellation of Ketu, means again Moon and Saturn. and in ther sign > >of Jupiter. > > The person involved is represented by the significator > >planet getting more points. The venus is in 2nd house, means the > >responsible for the cause is 2nd house, means family member. Now > >Venus gets power due to Saturn, lord of 9th and 10th house. Points > >out to words father, or the leading person of the family. The Moon > >lord of 3rd is weak, So mother may be knowing the fact, but unable to > >oppose. > > GENERALLY IT IS OBSERVED THAT AT THE TIME OF DEATH THE MAIN > >PERIOD OF 3RD HOUSE, OR SAMDHARMI AND SUB OF STRONG SIGNIFICATOR OR > >LORD OF ASCENDENT OR 5TH HOUSE ARE RESPONSIBLE. IF THEY HAVE ANY > >RELATION WITH 6TH HOUSE THEN IT IS MURDER OR FATAL ACCIDENT. > > > KRUSHNA > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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