Guest guest Posted January 20, 2001 Report Share Posted January 20, 2001 Dear Sanjay, On the worksheet on some of the houses for example, for JonBenet it only deducts 5 points for the moon instead of 10 for the aspect of Sun and Jupiter. I have noticed that for other charts also. Sylvia ______________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2001 Report Share Posted January 20, 2001 Dear Sylvia, This may be case when Jupiter and or Sun are the lord of House D or E. krushna >sylvia linzner <sylvia261 > > > worksheet >Sat, 20 Jan 2001 09:47:05 -0800 > >Dear Sanjay, >On the worksheet on some of the houses for example, for JonBenet it only >deducts 5 points for the moon instead of 10 for the aspect of Sun and >Jupiter. I have noticed that for other charts also. >Sylvia >______________ >GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! >Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! >Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: >http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. _______________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2001 Report Share Posted January 20, 2001 Dear Krushna, Thank you, but now I am getting for the moon 1st=2 2nd=9, 3rd=7, 4th= 1, 5th=1, 6th= 18, 7th==5, 8= 1, 9th=2, 10th=9 12th=1 Sylvia On Sun, 21 Jan 2001 00:13:54 +0530 " krushna kalani J.K. " <krushanain writes: > > Dear Sylvia, > This may be case when Jupiter and or Sun are the lord of House D or > E. > krushna > > >sylvia linzner <sylvia261 > > > > > > worksheet > >Sat, 20 Jan 2001 09:47:05 -0800 > > > >Dear Sanjay, > >On the worksheet on some of the houses for example, for JonBenet it > only > >deducts 5 points for the moon instead of 10 for the aspect of Sun > and > >Jupiter. I have noticed that for other charts also. > >Sylvia > >______________ > >GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! > >Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! > >Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: > >http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. > > _______________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at > http://www.hotmail.com. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2001 Report Share Posted January 20, 2001 Dear Sylvia, You are correct, except for 12th house.it should be -1. others are correct. Overall Moon is geting less then 12 points in mazor houses. Due to the sight of Jupiter and Sun it's power is lost, and again it is with Rahu. This made the life short. Going in more details : For 9th house 5th house and 12th house it is aspected by 12th lord from 'B'. All these houses are related to 12th house. 12th itself is the result 'C' of 8th house. There are still some points, which should be considered. I am not going in more details. krushna >sylvia linzner <sylvia261 > > >Re: worksheet >Sat, 20 Jan 2001 11:08:49 -0800 > >Dear Krushna, >Thank you, but now I am getting for the moon 1st=2 2nd=9, 3rd=7, 4th= 1, >5th=1, 6th= 18, 7th==5, 8= 1, 9th=2, 10th=9 12th=1 >Sylvia > >On Sun, 21 Jan 2001 00:13:54 +0530 " krushna kalani J.K. " ><krushanain writes: > > > > Dear Sylvia, > > This may be case when Jupiter and or Sun are the lord of House D or > > E. > > krushna > > > > >sylvia linzner <sylvia261 > > > > > > > > > worksheet > > >Sat, 20 Jan 2001 09:47:05 -0800 > > > > > >Dear Sanjay, > > >On the worksheet on some of the houses for example, for JonBenet it > > only > > >deducts 5 points for the moon instead of 10 for the aspect of Sun > > and > > >Jupiter. I have noticed that for other charts also. > > >Sylvia > > >______________ > > >GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! > > >Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! > > >Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: > > >http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. > > > > >_______________________ > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at > > http://www.hotmail.com. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2001 Report Share Posted January 21, 2001 Respected Krushnaji, You have mentioned that 12th house is the result C of the 8th house. This is something that you have not elaborated before. It means that there is some significance of the A B C houses. Could you please explain in detail? We know that B and C are the upachaya 6th and 10th from the 8th from B (A). We also know that D and E are the 10th and 6th from B or the 3rd and 11th from A. However, when you say that C means the result, this is something that could help interpret charts in a different fashion. So you are requested to give more details. Kind regards Sanjay - " krushna kalani J.K. " <krushanain Sunday, January 21, 2001 3:17 AM Re: worksheet Dear Sylvia, You are correct, except for 12th house.it should be -1. others are correct. Overall Moon is geting less then 12 points in mazor houses. Due to the sight of Jupiter and Sun it's power is lost, and again it is with Rahu. This made the life short. Going in more details : For 9th house 5th house and 12th house it is aspected by 12th lord from 'B'. All these houses are related to 12th house. 12th itself is the result 'C' of 8th house. There are still some points, which should be considered. I am not going in more details. krushna >sylvia linzner <sylvia261 > > >Re: worksheet >Sat, 20 Jan 2001 11:08:49 -0800 > >Dear Krushna, >Thank you, but now I am getting for the moon 1st=2 2nd=9, 3rd=7, 4th= 1, >5th=1, 6th= 18, 7th==5, 8= 1, 9th=2, 10th=9 12th=1 >Sylvia > >On Sun, 21 Jan 2001 00:13:54 +0530 " krushna kalani J.K. " ><krushanain writes: > > > > Dear Sylvia, > > This may be case when Jupiter and or Sun are the lord of House D or > > E. > > krushna > > > > >sylvia linzner <sylvia261 > > > > > > > > > worksheet > > >Sat, 20 Jan 2001 09:47:05 -0800 > > > > > >Dear Sanjay, > > >On the worksheet on some of the houses for example, for JonBenet it > > only > > >deducts 5 points for the moon instead of 10 for the aspect of Sun > > and > > >Jupiter. I have noticed that for other charts also. > > >Sylvia > > >______________ > > >GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! > > >Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! > > >Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: > > >http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. > > > > >_______________________ > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at > > http://www.hotmail.com. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2001 Report Share Posted January 22, 2001 Dear Sanjay, If you study the relation between House 'B' and 'C', You will find they are in 5:9 always. Mars, Sun, Jupiter; Venus, Mercury, and Saturn; Moon and Mars : Sun and Jupiter are 5:9 combination. The fifth house from any house is the result or fulfilment. (AKANSHAPURTI) houe 'A' is karak of house 'B' and 'c' is the result. C house is 10th from 'A', So it is leading the karakatva of 'A', or result of Karakatva, so it is result of house 'B'. krushna > " Sanjay Jaggia " <sanjaygg > > >Re: worksheet >Mon, 22 Jan 2001 14:13:01 +0700 > >Respected Krushnaji, > >You have mentioned that 12th house is the result C of the 8th house. This >is >something that you have not elaborated before. It means that there is some >significance of the A B C houses. Could you please explain in detail? > >We know that B and C are the upachaya 6th and 10th from the 8th from B (A). >We also know that D and E are the 10th and 6th from B or the 3rd and 11th >from A. However, when you say that C means the result, this is something >that could help interpret charts in a different fashion. So you are >requested to give more details. > >Kind regards >Sanjay > >- > " krushna kalani J.K. " <krushanain > >Sunday, January 21, 2001 3:17 AM >Re: worksheet > > >Dear Sylvia, >You are correct, except for 12th house.it should be -1. others are correct. >Overall Moon is geting less then 12 points in mazor houses. Due to the >sight >of Jupiter and Sun it's power is lost, and again it is with Rahu. This made >the life short. Going in more details : >For 9th house 5th house and 12th house it is aspected by 12th lord from >'B'. >All these houses are related to 12th house. 12th itself is the result 'C' >of >8th house. There are still some points, which should be considered. I am >not >going in more details. >krushna > > >sylvia linzner <sylvia261 > > > > > >Re: worksheet > >Sat, 20 Jan 2001 11:08:49 -0800 > > > >Dear Krushna, > >Thank you, but now I am getting for the moon 1st=2 2nd=9, 3rd=7, 4th= 1, > >5th=1, 6th= 18, 7th==5, 8= 1, 9th=2, 10th=9 12th=1 > >Sylvia > > > >On Sun, 21 Jan 2001 00:13:54 +0530 " krushna kalani J.K. " > ><krushanain writes: > > > > > > Dear Sylvia, > > > This may be case when Jupiter and or Sun are the lord of House D or > > > E. > > > krushna > > > > > > >sylvia linzner <sylvia261 > > > > > > > > > > > > worksheet > > > >Sat, 20 Jan 2001 09:47:05 -0800 > > > > > > > >Dear Sanjay, > > > >On the worksheet on some of the houses for example, for JonBenet it > > > only > > > >deducts 5 points for the moon instead of 10 for the aspect of Sun > > > and > > > >Jupiter. I have noticed that for other charts also. > > > >Sylvia > > > >______________ > > > >GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! > > > >Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! > > > >Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: > > > >http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. > > > > > > > >_______________________ > > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at > > > http://www.hotmail.com. > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2001 Report Share Posted January 22, 2001 Respected Krushnaji, Could you please guide us on how such principles are used in practice? Does this mean the that result would depend on the aspects being received by house C? Or does this have another meaning? Kind regards Sanjay - " krushna kalani J.K. " <krushanain Tuesday, January 23, 2001 2:06 AM Re: worksheet Dear Sanjay, If you study the relation between House 'B' and 'C', You will find they are in 5:9 always. Mars, Sun, Jupiter; Venus, Mercury, and Saturn; Moon and Mars : Sun and Jupiter are 5:9 combination. The fifth house from any house is the result or fulfilment. (AKANSHAPURTI) houe 'A' is karak of house 'B' and 'c' is the result. C house is 10th from 'A', So it is leading the karakatva of 'A', or result of Karakatva, so it is result of house 'B'. krushna > " Sanjay Jaggia " <sanjaygg > > >Re: worksheet >Mon, 22 Jan 2001 14:13:01 +0700 > >Respected Krushnaji, > >You have mentioned that 12th house is the result C of the 8th house. This >is >something that you have not elaborated before. It means that there is some >significance of the A B C houses. Could you please explain in detail? > >We know that B and C are the upachaya 6th and 10th from the 8th from B (A). >We also know that D and E are the 10th and 6th from B or the 3rd and 11th >from A. However, when you say that C means the result, this is something >that could help interpret charts in a different fashion. So you are >requested to give more details. > >Kind regards >Sanjay > >- > " krushna kalani J.K. " <krushanain > >Sunday, January 21, 2001 3:17 AM >Re: worksheet > > >Dear Sylvia, >You are correct, except for 12th house.it should be -1. others are correct. >Overall Moon is geting less then 12 points in mazor houses. Due to the >sight >of Jupiter and Sun it's power is lost, and again it is with Rahu. This made >the life short. Going in more details : >For 9th house 5th house and 12th house it is aspected by 12th lord from >'B'. >All these houses are related to 12th house. 12th itself is the result 'C' >of >8th house. There are still some points, which should be considered. I am >not >going in more details. >krushna > > >sylvia linzner <sylvia261 > > > > > >Re: worksheet > >Sat, 20 Jan 2001 11:08:49 -0800 > > > >Dear Krushna, > >Thank you, but now I am getting for the moon 1st=2 2nd=9, 3rd=7, 4th= 1, > >5th=1, 6th= 18, 7th==5, 8= 1, 9th=2, 10th=9 12th=1 > >Sylvia > > > >On Sun, 21 Jan 2001 00:13:54 +0530 " krushna kalani J.K. " > ><krushanain writes: > > > > > > Dear Sylvia, > > > This may be case when Jupiter and or Sun are the lord of House D or > > > E. > > > krushna > > > > > > >sylvia linzner <sylvia261 > > > > > > > > > > > > worksheet > > > >Sat, 20 Jan 2001 09:47:05 -0800 > > > > > > > >Dear Sanjay, > > > >On the worksheet on some of the houses for example, for JonBenet it > > > only > > > >deducts 5 points for the moon instead of 10 for the aspect of Sun > > > and > > > >Jupiter. I have noticed that for other charts also. > > > >Sylvia > > > >______________ > > > >GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! > > > >Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! > > > >Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: > > > >http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. > > > > > > > >_______________________ > > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at > > > http://www.hotmail.com. > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2001 Report Share Posted January 23, 2001 Dear Sanjay, Any result is a cummulative effect of all the houses. All the houses are interrelated. The Moon is karak for longevity in the case under discussion. And Moon is also natural karak of ninth house. The aspect of 12th house lord from house 'B' spoils the results. If we take 9th house as 'B' then Jupiter is the 12th lord and is aspected by Jupiter. so result of 9th is also reduced. If we take 5th house as house 'B " then Sun is the 12th lord and it is aspecting 'C' house ( 9th house) So result of 5th is also spoiled. Taking 8th house as 'B' then 12th lord is Mars, and is aspecting house 'A'( 3rd house) So I told in short that for 12th house as 'A' ( which is house 'C' for longevity) 6th and 10 house ( 'B' and 'C') from it are also spoiled. When 5th ( next generation) and 9th means next to next generation both are spoiled, 8th is spoiled so the longevity is heldup. Very short life. 9TH ALSO REPRESENTS Father, who is also a sufferer. This is for study purpose, not used in general for each and every result. For confirmation of any result cross check can be done. krushna > " Sanjay Jaggia " <sanjaygg > > >Re: worksheet >Tue, 23 Jan 2001 14:48:22 +0700 > >Respected Krushnaji, > >Could you please guide us on how such principles are used in practice? Does >this mean the that result would depend on the aspects being received by >house C? Or does this have another meaning? > >Kind regards >Sanjay > >- > " krushna kalani J.K. " <krushanain > >Tuesday, January 23, 2001 2:06 AM >Re: worksheet > > >Dear Sanjay, > If you study the relation between House 'B' and 'C', You will find >they are in 5:9 always. Mars, Sun, Jupiter; Venus, Mercury, and Saturn; >Moon and Mars : Sun and Jupiter are 5:9 combination. > The fifth house from any house is the result or fulfilment. >(AKANSHAPURTI) > houe 'A' is karak of house 'B' and 'c' is the result. C house is 10th >from 'A', So it is leading the karakatva of 'A', or result of Karakatva, so >it is result of house 'B'. >krushna > > > " Sanjay Jaggia " <sanjaygg > > > > > >Re: worksheet > >Mon, 22 Jan 2001 14:13:01 +0700 > > > >Respected Krushnaji, > > > >You have mentioned that 12th house is the result C of the 8th house. This > >is > >something that you have not elaborated before. It means that there is >some > >significance of the A B C houses. Could you please explain in detail? > > > >We know that B and C are the upachaya 6th and 10th from the 8th from B >(A). > >We also know that D and E are the 10th and 6th from B or the 3rd and 11th > >from A. However, when you say that C means the result, this is something > >that could help interpret charts in a different fashion. So you are > >requested to give more details. > > > >Kind regards > >Sanjay > > > >- > > " krushna kalani J.K. " <krushanain > > > >Sunday, January 21, 2001 3:17 AM > >Re: worksheet > > > > > >Dear Sylvia, > >You are correct, except for 12th house.it should be -1. others are >correct. > >Overall Moon is geting less then 12 points in mazor houses. Due to the > >sight > >of Jupiter and Sun it's power is lost, and again it is with Rahu. This >made > >the life short. Going in more details : > >For 9th house 5th house and 12th house it is aspected by 12th lord from > >'B'. > >All these houses are related to 12th house. 12th itself is the result 'C' > >of > >8th house. There are still some points, which should be considered. I am > >not > >going in more details. > >krushna > > > > >sylvia linzner <sylvia261 > > > > > > > > >Re: worksheet > > >Sat, 20 Jan 2001 11:08:49 -0800 > > > > > >Dear Krushna, > > >Thank you, but now I am getting for the moon 1st=2 2nd=9, 3rd=7, 4th= >1, > > >5th=1, 6th= 18, 7th==5, 8= 1, 9th=2, 10th=9 12th=1 > > >Sylvia > > > > > >On Sun, 21 Jan 2001 00:13:54 +0530 " krushna kalani J.K. " > > ><krushanain writes: > > > > > > > > Dear Sylvia, > > > > This may be case when Jupiter and or Sun are the lord of House D or > > > > E. > > > > krushna > > > > > > > > >sylvia linzner <sylvia261 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > worksheet > > > > >Sat, 20 Jan 2001 09:47:05 -0800 > > > > > > > > > >Dear Sanjay, > > > > >On the worksheet on some of the houses for example, for JonBenet it > > > > only > > > > >deducts 5 points for the moon instead of 10 for the aspect of Sun > > > > and > > > > >Jupiter. I have noticed that for other charts also. > > > > >Sylvia > > > > >______________ > > > > >GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! > > > > >Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! > > > > >Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: > > > > >http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. > > > > > > > > > > > >_______________________ > > > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at > > > > http://www.hotmail.com. > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2001 Report Share Posted January 23, 2001 Respected Krushnaji, Thank you for the clarification. I have not completely understood it but I will read it several times and then revert with any questions. Just a small one for now. In one of your previous posts, you have said that the Sun and Moon do not show 12th lord qualities. Why do you say then that the aspect from the 12th lord Sun is bad. Kind regards Sanjay - " krushna kalani J.K. " <krushanain Wednesday, January 24, 2001 2:31 AM Re: worksheet Dear Sanjay, Any result is a cummulative effect of all the houses. All the houses are interrelated. The Moon is karak for longevity in the case under discussion. And Moon is also natural karak of ninth house. The aspect of 12th house lord from house 'B' spoils the results. If we take 9th house as 'B' then Jupiter is the 12th lord and is aspected by Jupiter. so result of 9th is also reduced. If we take 5th house as house 'B " then Sun is the 12th lord and it is aspecting 'C' house ( 9th house) So result of 5th is also spoiled. Taking 8th house as 'B' then 12th lord is Mars, and is aspecting house 'A'( 3rd house) So I told in short that for 12th house as 'A' ( which is house 'C' for longevity) 6th and 10 house ( 'B' and 'C') from it are also spoiled. When 5th ( next generation) and 9th means next to next generation both are spoiled, 8th is spoiled so the longevity is heldup. Very short life. 9TH ALSO REPRESENTS Father, who is also a sufferer. This is for study purpose, not used in general for each and every result. For confirmation of any result cross check can be done. krushna > " Sanjay Jaggia " <sanjaygg > > >Re: worksheet >Tue, 23 Jan 2001 14:48:22 +0700 > >Respected Krushnaji, > >Could you please guide us on how such principles are used in practice? Does >this mean the that result would depend on the aspects being received by >house C? Or does this have another meaning? > >Kind regards >Sanjay > >- > " krushna kalani J.K. " <krushanain > >Tuesday, January 23, 2001 2:06 AM >Re: worksheet > > >Dear Sanjay, > If you study the relation between House 'B' and 'C', You will find >they are in 5:9 always. Mars, Sun, Jupiter; Venus, Mercury, and Saturn; >Moon and Mars : Sun and Jupiter are 5:9 combination. > The fifth house from any house is the result or fulfilment. >(AKANSHAPURTI) > houe 'A' is karak of house 'B' and 'c' is the result. C house is 10th >from 'A', So it is leading the karakatva of 'A', or result of Karakatva, so >it is result of house 'B'. >krushna > > > " Sanjay Jaggia " <sanjaygg > > > > > >Re: worksheet > >Mon, 22 Jan 2001 14:13:01 +0700 > > > >Respected Krushnaji, > > > >You have mentioned that 12th house is the result C of the 8th house. This > >is > >something that you have not elaborated before. It means that there is >some > >significance of the A B C houses. Could you please explain in detail? > > > >We know that B and C are the upachaya 6th and 10th from the 8th from B >(A). > >We also know that D and E are the 10th and 6th from B or the 3rd and 11th > >from A. However, when you say that C means the result, this is something > >that could help interpret charts in a different fashion. So you are > >requested to give more details. > > > >Kind regards > >Sanjay > > > >- > > " krushna kalani J.K. " <krushanain > > > >Sunday, January 21, 2001 3:17 AM > >Re: worksheet > > > > > >Dear Sylvia, > >You are correct, except for 12th house.it should be -1. others are >correct. > >Overall Moon is geting less then 12 points in mazor houses. Due to the > >sight > >of Jupiter and Sun it's power is lost, and again it is with Rahu. This >made > >the life short. Going in more details : > >For 9th house 5th house and 12th house it is aspected by 12th lord from > >'B'. > >All these houses are related to 12th house. 12th itself is the result 'C' > >of > >8th house. There are still some points, which should be considered. I am > >not > >going in more details. > >krushna > > > > >sylvia linzner <sylvia261 > > > > > > > > >Re: worksheet > > >Sat, 20 Jan 2001 11:08:49 -0800 > > > > > >Dear Krushna, > > >Thank you, but now I am getting for the moon 1st=2 2nd=9, 3rd=7, 4th= >1, > > >5th=1, 6th= 18, 7th==5, 8= 1, 9th=2, 10th=9 12th=1 > > >Sylvia > > > > > >On Sun, 21 Jan 2001 00:13:54 +0530 " krushna kalani J.K. " > > ><krushanain writes: > > > > > > > > Dear Sylvia, > > > > This may be case when Jupiter and or Sun are the lord of House D or > > > > E. > > > > krushna > > > > > > > > >sylvia linzner <sylvia261 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > worksheet > > > > >Sat, 20 Jan 2001 09:47:05 -0800 > > > > > > > > > >Dear Sanjay, > > > > >On the worksheet on some of the houses for example, for JonBenet it > > > > only > > > > >deducts 5 points for the moon instead of 10 for the aspect of Sun > > > > and > > > > >Jupiter. I have noticed that for other charts also. > > > > >Sylvia > > > > >______________ > > > > >GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! > > > > >Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! > > > > >Join Juno today! 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Guest guest Posted January 23, 2001 Report Share Posted January 23, 2001 Respected Krushna, Just one small query. You often quote the points of planets and add " from row 17 " . This is Ok and fully understood except for one thing. Since the worksheet was first drawn up in your lessons you have adde the fact that no positive points can be gained from the planet ruling the 12th form House B. Now when you say points as in Row 17 do you mean exactly that ie points as given in Row 17 or do you mean Row 17 plus the correction for the lord of the 12th from house B. Yours respectfully, Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2001 Report Share Posted January 24, 2001 Respected Peterji, Pranam Up to Row 17 gives the strength of the planet as significator. While giving the result we must consider status of the planet. If it have got points due to the 12th lord, or effect of 12 th lord should be considered. So Points from 17 row ( This I say because this worksheet program is unique and is followed by all the members) should be used after giving effect of 12th lord. thanks krushna > " Peter Sutcliffe " <petermay > > >Re: worksheet >Wed, 24 Jan 2001 16:55:00 +1000 > >Respected Krushna, > >Just one small query. You often quote the points of planets and add " from >row 17 " . >This is Ok and fully understood except for one thing. Since the worksheet >was first drawn up in your lessons you have adde the fact that no positive >points can be gained from the planet ruling the 12th form House B. Now when >you say points as in Row 17 do you mean exactly that ie points as given in >Row 17 or do you mean Row 17 plus the correction for the lord of the 12th >from house B. > >Yours respectfully, > >Peter > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2001 Report Share Posted January 24, 2001 Dear Sanjay, For Sun and Moon no effect should be given in numerical value. They do not effect contra, but at the same time do not help in the result. Yes I should have mentioned this also for Sun. krushna > " Sanjay Jaggia " <sanjaygg > > >Re: worksheet >Wed, 24 Jan 2001 12:29:53 +0700 > >Respected Krushnaji, > >Thank you for the clarification. I have not completely understood it but I >will read it several times and then revert with any questions. > >Just a small one for now. In one of your previous posts, you have said that >the Sun and Moon do not show 12th lord qualities. Why do you say then that >the aspect from the 12th lord Sun is bad. > >Kind regards >Sanjay > >- > " krushna kalani J.K. " <krushanain > >Wednesday, January 24, 2001 2:31 AM >Re: worksheet > > >Dear Sanjay, > Any result is a cummulative effect of all the houses. All the houses >are interrelated. The Moon is karak for longevity in the case under >discussion. And Moon is also natural karak of ninth house. The aspect of >12th house lord from house 'B' spoils the results. > If we take 9th house as 'B' then Jupiter is the 12th lord and is >aspected by Jupiter. so result of 9th is also reduced. > If we take 5th house as house 'B " then Sun is the 12th lord and it >is >aspecting 'C' house ( 9th house) So result of 5th is also spoiled. > Taking 8th house as 'B' then 12th lord is Mars, and is aspecting >house 'A'( 3rd house) > So I told in short that for 12th house as 'A' ( which is house 'C' >for longevity) 6th and 10 house ( 'B' and 'C') from it are also spoiled. > When 5th ( next generation) and 9th means next to next generation >both are spoiled, 8th is spoiled so the longevity is heldup. Very short >life. 9TH ALSO REPRESENTS Father, who is also a sufferer. > This is for study purpose, not used in general for each and every >result. For confirmation of any result cross check can be done. >krushna > > > > > " Sanjay Jaggia " <sanjaygg > > > > > >Re: worksheet > >Tue, 23 Jan 2001 14:48:22 +0700 > > > >Respected Krushnaji, > > > >Could you please guide us on how such principles are used in practice? >Does > >this mean the that result would depend on the aspects being received by > >house C? Or does this have another meaning? > > > >Kind regards > >Sanjay > > > >- > > " krushna kalani J.K. " <krushanain > > > >Tuesday, January 23, 2001 2:06 AM > >Re: worksheet > > > > > >Dear Sanjay, > > If you study the relation between House 'B' and 'C', You will find > >they are in 5:9 always. Mars, Sun, Jupiter; Venus, Mercury, and >Saturn; > >Moon and Mars : Sun and Jupiter are 5:9 combination. > > The fifth house from any house is the result or fulfilment. > >(AKANSHAPURTI) > > houe 'A' is karak of house 'B' and 'c' is the result. C house is >10th > >from 'A', So it is leading the karakatva of 'A', or result of Karakatva, >so > >it is result of house 'B'. > >krushna > > > > > " Sanjay Jaggia " <sanjaygg > > > > > > > > >Re: worksheet > > >Mon, 22 Jan 2001 14:13:01 +0700 > > > > > >Respected Krushnaji, > > > > > >You have mentioned that 12th house is the result C of the 8th house. >This > > >is > > >something that you have not elaborated before. It means that there is > >some > > >significance of the A B C houses. Could you please explain in detail? > > > > > >We know that B and C are the upachaya 6th and 10th from the 8th from B > >(A). > > >We also know that D and E are the 10th and 6th from B or the 3rd and >11th > > >from A. However, when you say that C means the result, this is >something > > >that could help interpret charts in a different fashion. So you are > > >requested to give more details. > > > > > >Kind regards > > >Sanjay > > > > > >- > > > " krushna kalani J.K. " <krushanain > > > > > >Sunday, January 21, 2001 3:17 AM > > >Re: worksheet > > > > > > > > >Dear Sylvia, > > >You are correct, except for 12th house.it should be -1. others are > >correct. > > >Overall Moon is geting less then 12 points in mazor houses. Due to the > > >sight > > >of Jupiter and Sun it's power is lost, and again it is with Rahu. This > >made > > >the life short. Going in more details : > > >For 9th house 5th house and 12th house it is aspected by 12th lord from > > >'B'. > > >All these houses are related to 12th house. 12th itself is the result >'C' > > >of > > >8th house. There are still some points, which should be considered. I >am > > >not > > >going in more details. > > >krushna > > > > > > >sylvia linzner <sylvia261 > > > > > > > > > > > >Re: worksheet > > > >Sat, 20 Jan 2001 11:08:49 -0800 > > > > > > > >Dear Krushna, > > > >Thank you, but now I am getting for the moon 1st=2 2nd=9, 3rd=7, 4th= > >1, > > > >5th=1, 6th= 18, 7th==5, 8= 1, 9th=2, 10th=9 12th=1 > > > >Sylvia > > > > > > > >On Sun, 21 Jan 2001 00:13:54 +0530 " krushna kalani J.K. " > > > ><krushanain writes: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sylvia, > > > > > This may be case when Jupiter and or Sun are the lord of House D >or > > > > > E. > > > > > krushna > > > > > > > > > > >sylvia linzner <sylvia261 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > worksheet > > > > > >Sat, 20 Jan 2001 09:47:05 -0800 > > > > > > > > > > > >Dear Sanjay, > > > > > >On the worksheet on some of the houses for example, for JonBenet >it > > > > > only > > > > > >deducts 5 points for the moon instead of 10 for the aspect of >Sun > > > > > and > > > > > >Jupiter. I have noticed that for other charts also. > > > > > >Sylvia > > > > > >______________ > > > > > >GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! > > > > > >Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! > > > > > >Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: > > > > > >http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >_______________________ > > > > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at > > > > > http://www.hotmail.com. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2001 Report Share Posted January 25, 2001 Respected Krushnaji, I am a little confused in this. Let us say Sun has 3 points and is the 12th lord. Let us say that it aspects B and also aspects another planet, say Venus. Now, by its aspect to B, it will add 5 points to its strength. Assuming it has no other aspects, it will increase its strength to probably over 12 points. Its aspect to Venus would add five points to the strength of Venus. This would mean that Venus would become a stronger significator than it was without the aspect from Sun. If we do not reduce the points, then Venus is likely to give the result. Does this mean that the aspect from the luminaries makes the " infected " planets give the result and these results turn out bad? Kindly explain with some examples. Kind regards Sanjay - " krushna kalani J.K. " <krushanain Wednesday, January 24, 2001 10:54 PM Re: worksheet Dear Sanjay, For Sun and Moon no effect should be given in numerical value. They do not effect contra, but at the same time do not help in the result. Yes I should have mentioned this also for Sun. krushna > " Sanjay Jaggia " <sanjaygg > > >Re: worksheet >Wed, 24 Jan 2001 12:29:53 +0700 > >Respected Krushnaji, > >Thank you for the clarification. I have not completely understood it but I >will read it several times and then revert with any questions. > >Just a small one for now. In one of your previous posts, you have said that >the Sun and Moon do not show 12th lord qualities. Why do you say then that >the aspect from the 12th lord Sun is bad. > >Kind regards >Sanjay > >- > " krushna kalani J.K. " <krushanain > >Wednesday, January 24, 2001 2:31 AM >Re: worksheet > > >Dear Sanjay, > Any result is a cummulative effect of all the houses. All the houses >are interrelated. The Moon is karak for longevity in the case under >discussion. And Moon is also natural karak of ninth house. The aspect of >12th house lord from house 'B' spoils the results. > If we take 9th house as 'B' then Jupiter is the 12th lord and is >aspected by Jupiter. so result of 9th is also reduced. > If we take 5th house as house 'B " then Sun is the 12th lord and it >is >aspecting 'C' house ( 9th house) So result of 5th is also spoiled. > Taking 8th house as 'B' then 12th lord is Mars, and is aspecting >house 'A'( 3rd house) > So I told in short that for 12th house as 'A' ( which is house 'C' >for longevity) 6th and 10 house ( 'B' and 'C') from it are also spoiled. > When 5th ( next generation) and 9th means next to next generation >both are spoiled, 8th is spoiled so the longevity is heldup. Very short >life. 9TH ALSO REPRESENTS Father, who is also a sufferer. > This is for study purpose, not used in general for each and every >result. For confirmation of any result cross check can be done. >krushna > > > > > " Sanjay Jaggia " <sanjaygg > > > > > >Re: worksheet > >Tue, 23 Jan 2001 14:48:22 +0700 > > > >Respected Krushnaji, > > > >Could you please guide us on how such principles are used in practice? >Does > >this mean the that result would depend on the aspects being received by > >house C? Or does this have another meaning? > > > >Kind regards > >Sanjay > > > >- > > " krushna kalani J.K. " <krushanain > > > >Tuesday, January 23, 2001 2:06 AM > >Re: worksheet > > > > > >Dear Sanjay, > > If you study the relation between House 'B' and 'C', You will find > >they are in 5:9 always. Mars, Sun, Jupiter; Venus, Mercury, and >Saturn; > >Moon and Mars : Sun and Jupiter are 5:9 combination. > > The fifth house from any house is the result or fulfilment. > >(AKANSHAPURTI) > > houe 'A' is karak of house 'B' and 'c' is the result. C house is >10th > >from 'A', So it is leading the karakatva of 'A', or result of Karakatva, >so > >it is result of house 'B'. > >krushna > > > > > " Sanjay Jaggia " <sanjaygg > > > > > > > > >Re: worksheet > > >Mon, 22 Jan 2001 14:13:01 +0700 > > > > > >Respected Krushnaji, > > > > > >You have mentioned that 12th house is the result C of the 8th house. >This > > >is > > >something that you have not elaborated before. It means that there is > >some > > >significance of the A B C houses. Could you please explain in detail? > > > > > >We know that B and C are the upachaya 6th and 10th from the 8th from B > >(A). > > >We also know that D and E are the 10th and 6th from B or the 3rd and >11th > > >from A. However, when you say that C means the result, this is >something > > >that could help interpret charts in a different fashion. So you are > > >requested to give more details. > > > > > >Kind regards > > >Sanjay > > > > > >- > > > " krushna kalani J.K. " <krushanain > > > > > >Sunday, January 21, 2001 3:17 AM > > >Re: worksheet > > > > > > > > >Dear Sylvia, > > >You are correct, except for 12th house.it should be -1. others are > >correct. > > >Overall Moon is geting less then 12 points in mazor houses. Due to the > > >sight > > >of Jupiter and Sun it's power is lost, and again it is with Rahu. This > >made > > >the life short. Going in more details : > > >For 9th house 5th house and 12th house it is aspected by 12th lord from > > >'B'. > > >All these houses are related to 12th house. 12th itself is the result >'C' > > >of > > >8th house. There are still some points, which should be considered. I >am > > >not > > >going in more details. > > >krushna > > > > > > >sylvia linzner <sylvia261 > > > > > > > > > > > >Re: worksheet > > > >Sat, 20 Jan 2001 11:08:49 -0800 > > > > > > > >Dear Krushna, > > > >Thank you, but now I am getting for the moon 1st=2 2nd=9, 3rd=7, 4th= > >1, > > > >5th=1, 6th= 18, 7th==5, 8= 1, 9th=2, 10th=9 12th=1 > > > >Sylvia > > > > > > > >On Sun, 21 Jan 2001 00:13:54 +0530 " krushna kalani J.K. " > > > ><krushanain writes: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sylvia, > > > > > This may be case when Jupiter and or Sun are the lord of House D >or > > > > > E. > > > > > krushna > > > > > > > > > > >sylvia linzner <sylvia261 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > worksheet > > > > > >Sat, 20 Jan 2001 09:47:05 -0800 > > > > > > > > > > > >Dear Sanjay, > > > > > >On the worksheet on some of the houses for example, for JonBenet >it > > > > > only > > > > > >deducts 5 points for the moon instead of 10 for the aspect of >Sun > > > > > and > > > > > >Jupiter. I have noticed that for other charts also. > > > > > >Sylvia > > > > > >______________ > > > > > >GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! > > > > > >Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! > > > > > >Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: > > > > > >http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >_______________________ > > > > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at > > > > > http://www.hotmail.com. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2001 Report Share Posted January 29, 2001 Respected Krushnaji, Your comments on this would be appreciated. Kind regards Sanjay - " Sanjay Jaggia " <sanjaygg Thursday, January 25, 2001 4:34 PM Re: worksheet Respected Krushnaji, I am a little confused in this. Let us say Sun has 3 points and is the 12th lord. Let us say that it aspects B and also aspects another planet, say Venus. Now, by its aspect to B, it will add 5 points to its strength. Assuming it has no other aspects, it will increase its strength to probably over 12 points. Its aspect to Venus would add five points to the strength of Venus. This would mean that Venus would become a stronger significator than it was without the aspect from Sun. If we do not reduce the points, then Venus is likely to give the result. Does this mean that the aspect from the luminaries makes the " infected " planets give the result and these results turn out bad? Kindly explain with some examples. Kind regards Sanjay - " krushna kalani J.K. " <krushanain Wednesday, January 24, 2001 10:54 PM Re: worksheet Dear Sanjay, For Sun and Moon no effect should be given in numerical value. They do not effect contra, but at the same time do not help in the result. Yes I should have mentioned this also for Sun. krushna > " Sanjay Jaggia " <sanjaygg > > >Re: worksheet >Wed, 24 Jan 2001 12:29:53 +0700 > >Respected Krushnaji, > >Thank you for the clarification. I have not completely understood it but I >will read it several times and then revert with any questions. > >Just a small one for now. In one of your previous posts, you have said that >the Sun and Moon do not show 12th lord qualities. Why do you say then that >the aspect from the 12th lord Sun is bad. > >Kind regards >Sanjay > >- > " krushna kalani J.K. " <krushanain > >Wednesday, January 24, 2001 2:31 AM >Re: worksheet > > >Dear Sanjay, > Any result is a cummulative effect of all the houses. All the houses >are interrelated. The Moon is karak for longevity in the case under >discussion. And Moon is also natural karak of ninth house. The aspect of >12th house lord from house 'B' spoils the results. > If we take 9th house as 'B' then Jupiter is the 12th lord and is >aspected by Jupiter. so result of 9th is also reduced. > If we take 5th house as house 'B " then Sun is the 12th lord and it >is >aspecting 'C' house ( 9th house) So result of 5th is also spoiled. > Taking 8th house as 'B' then 12th lord is Mars, and is aspecting >house 'A'( 3rd house) > So I told in short that for 12th house as 'A' ( which is house 'C' >for longevity) 6th and 10 house ( 'B' and 'C') from it are also spoiled. > When 5th ( next generation) and 9th means next to next generation >both are spoiled, 8th is spoiled so the longevity is heldup. Very short >life. 9TH ALSO REPRESENTS Father, who is also a sufferer. > This is for study purpose, not used in general for each and every >result. For confirmation of any result cross check can be done. >krushna > > > > > " Sanjay Jaggia " <sanjaygg > > > > > >Re: worksheet > >Tue, 23 Jan 2001 14:48:22 +0700 > > > >Respected Krushnaji, > > > >Could you please guide us on how such principles are used in practice? >Does > >this mean the that result would depend on the aspects being received by > >house C? Or does this have another meaning? > > > >Kind regards > >Sanjay > > > >- > > " krushna kalani J.K. " <krushanain > > > >Tuesday, January 23, 2001 2:06 AM > >Re: worksheet > > > > > >Dear Sanjay, > > If you study the relation between House 'B' and 'C', You will find > >they are in 5:9 always. Mars, Sun, Jupiter; Venus, Mercury, and >Saturn; > >Moon and Mars : Sun and Jupiter are 5:9 combination. > > The fifth house from any house is the result or fulfilment. > >(AKANSHAPURTI) > > houe 'A' is karak of house 'B' and 'c' is the result. C house is >10th > >from 'A', So it is leading the karakatva of 'A', or result of Karakatva, >so > >it is result of house 'B'. > >krushna > > > > > " Sanjay Jaggia " <sanjaygg > > > > > > > > >Re: worksheet > > >Mon, 22 Jan 2001 14:13:01 +0700 > > > > > >Respected Krushnaji, > > > > > >You have mentioned that 12th house is the result C of the 8th house. >This > > >is > > >something that you have not elaborated before. It means that there is > >some > > >significance of the A B C houses. Could you please explain in detail? > > > > > >We know that B and C are the upachaya 6th and 10th from the 8th from B > >(A). > > >We also know that D and E are the 10th and 6th from B or the 3rd and >11th > > >from A. However, when you say that C means the result, this is >something > > >that could help interpret charts in a different fashion. So you are > > >requested to give more details. > > > > > >Kind regards > > >Sanjay > > > > > >- > > > " krushna kalani J.K. " <krushanain > > > > > >Sunday, January 21, 2001 3:17 AM > > >Re: worksheet > > > > > > > > >Dear Sylvia, > > >You are correct, except for 12th house.it should be -1. others are > >correct. > > >Overall Moon is geting less then 12 points in mazor houses. Due to the > > >sight > > >of Jupiter and Sun it's power is lost, and again it is with Rahu. This > >made > > >the life short. Going in more details : > > >For 9th house 5th house and 12th house it is aspected by 12th lord from > > >'B'. > > >All these houses are related to 12th house. 12th itself is the result >'C' > > >of > > >8th house. There are still some points, which should be considered. I >am > > >not > > >going in more details. > > >krushna > > > > > > >sylvia linzner <sylvia261 > > > > > > > > > > > >Re: worksheet > > > >Sat, 20 Jan 2001 11:08:49 -0800 > > > > > > > >Dear Krushna, > > > >Thank you, but now I am getting for the moon 1st=2 2nd=9, 3rd=7, 4th= > >1, > > > >5th=1, 6th= 18, 7th==5, 8= 1, 9th=2, 10th=9 12th=1 > > > >Sylvia > > > > > > > >On Sun, 21 Jan 2001 00:13:54 +0530 " krushna kalani J.K. " > > > ><krushanain writes: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sylvia, > > > > > This may be case when Jupiter and or Sun are the lord of House D >or > > > > > E. > > > > > krushna > > > > > > > > > > >sylvia linzner <sylvia261 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > worksheet > > > > > >Sat, 20 Jan 2001 09:47:05 -0800 > > > > > > > > > > > >Dear Sanjay, > > > > > >On the worksheet on some of the houses for example, for JonBenet >it > > > > > only > > > > > >deducts 5 points for the moon instead of 10 for the aspect of >Sun > > > > > and > > > > > >Jupiter. I have noticed that for other charts also. > > > > > >Sylvia > > > > > >______________ > > > > > >GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! > > > > > >Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! > > > > > >Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: > > > > > >http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >_______________________ > > > > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at > > > > > http://www.hotmail.com. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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