Guest guest Posted February 4, 2001 Report Share Posted February 4, 2001 Hello Sanjay, I have a question about the last worksheet you made for queen elisabeth. I also saved this worksheet as a template to use it for other charts. In the section "template for 4/10 relationship of planets" there are the cells under the Moon that are white (all others are bleu) In the bleu ones I can change the figures but in the white ones the cells are blocked. How can I unblock these cells please. My program asks a password !! Thank you for looking into that Best wishes Margarita Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2001 Report Share Posted February 4, 2001 Respected Krushnaji, I understand from your reply that Sun and Moon do not give any negative effects even if these are 12th lords. Another question. You had said earlier that any planet in opposition to Venus reduces its quality. In this mail, you are saying any aspect to Venus reduces its quality. This is a more general term. Please advise if association (being in the same sign) with another planet also reduces the quality of Venus. Kind regards Sanjay - " krushna kalani J.K. " <krushanain Sunday, February 04, 2001 3:07 AM Re: worksheet Dear Sanjay, my comments are in capital, > " Sanjay Jaggia " <sanjaygg > > >Re: worksheet >Mon, 29 Jan 2001 19:08:02 +0700 > >Respected Krushnaji, > >Your comments on this would be appreciated. > >Kind regards >Sanjay > >- > " Sanjay Jaggia " <sanjaygg > >Thursday, January 25, 2001 4:34 PM >Re: worksheet > > >Respected Krushnaji, > >I am a little confused in this. Let us say Sun has 3 points and is the 12th >lord. Let us say that it aspects B and also aspects another planet, say >Venus. Now, by its aspect to B, it will add 5 points to its strength. >Assuming it has no other aspects, it will increase its strength to probably >over 12 points. THE SUN AND MOON DO NOT GET THE EFFECT OF SIXTH LORD. SO >IT SHOULD BE TREATED AS OTHER PLANETS. > >Its aspect to Venus would add five points to the strength of Venus. This >would mean that Venus would become a stronger significator than it was >without the aspect from Sun. YES YOU ARE CORRECT. (BUT SPECIALLY VENUS IS A >VERY SENSETIVE PLANET, ITS QUALITIES REDUCES IF HAVE ASPECT OF ANY PLANET. >) > >If we do not reduce the points, then Venus is likely to give the result. >Does this mean that the aspect from the luminaries makes the " infected " >planets give the result and these results turn out bad? WHEN I SAID THAT >SUN AND MOON SHOULD NOT BE TREATED BAD AS 12TH LORD FROM HOUSE 'B', MEANS >NO SUBTRACTION OF THE POINTS, GAINED DUE TO ITS SIGHT. OR THEY SHOULD BE >TREATED AS OTHER PLANETS. > >Kindly explain with some examples. > >Kind regards >Sanjay > >- > " krushna kalani J.K. " <krushanain > >Wednesday, January 24, 2001 10:54 PM >Re: worksheet > > >Dear Sanjay, > For Sun and Moon no effect should be given in numerical value. >They >do not effect contra, but at the same time do not help in the result. Yes I >should have mentioned this also for Sun. >krushna > > > > " Sanjay Jaggia " <sanjaygg > > > > > >Re: worksheet > >Wed, 24 Jan 2001 12:29:53 +0700 > > > >Respected Krushnaji, > > > >Thank you for the clarification. I have not completely understood it but >I > >will read it several times and then revert with any questions. > > > >Just a small one for now. In one of your previous posts, you have said >that > >the Sun and Moon do not show 12th lord qualities. Why do you say then >that > >the aspect from the 12th lord Sun is bad. > > > >Kind regards > >Sanjay > > > >- > > " krushna kalani J.K. " <krushanain > > > >Wednesday, January 24, 2001 2:31 AM > >Re: worksheet > > > > > >Dear Sanjay, > > Any result is a cummulative effect of all the houses. All the >houses > >are interrelated. The Moon is karak for longevity in the case under > >discussion. And Moon is also natural karak of ninth house. The aspect of > >12th house lord from house 'B' spoils the results. > > If we take 9th house as 'B' then Jupiter is the 12th lord and is > >aspected by Jupiter. so result of 9th is also reduced. > > If we take 5th house as house 'B " then Sun is the 12th lord and >it > >is > >aspecting 'C' house ( 9th house) So result of 5th is also spoiled. > > Taking 8th house as 'B' then 12th lord is Mars, and is aspecting > >house 'A'( 3rd house) > > So I told in short that for 12th house as 'A' ( which is house >'C' > >for longevity) 6th and 10 house ( 'B' and 'C') from it are also spoiled. > > When 5th ( next generation) and 9th means next to next generation > >both are spoiled, 8th is spoiled so the longevity is heldup. Very short > >life. 9TH ALSO REPRESENTS Father, who is also a sufferer. > > This is for study purpose, not used in general for each and every > >result. For confirmation of any result cross check can be done. > >krushna > > > > > > > > > " Sanjay Jaggia " <sanjaygg > > > > > > > > >Re: worksheet > > >Tue, 23 Jan 2001 14:48:22 +0700 > > > > > >Respected Krushnaji, > > > > > >Could you please guide us on how such principles are used in practice? > >Does > > >this mean the that result would depend on the aspects being received by > > >house C? Or does this have another meaning? > > > > > >Kind regards > > >Sanjay > > > > > >- > > > " krushna kalani J.K. " <krushanain > > > > > >Tuesday, January 23, 2001 2:06 AM > > >Re: worksheet > > > > > > > > >Dear Sanjay, > > > If you study the relation between House 'B' and 'C', You will >find > > >they are in 5:9 always. Mars, Sun, Jupiter; Venus, Mercury, and > >Saturn; > > >Moon and Mars : Sun and Jupiter are 5:9 combination. > > > The fifth house from any house is the result or fulfilment. > > >(AKANSHAPURTI) > > > houe 'A' is karak of house 'B' and 'c' is the result. C house is > >10th > > >from 'A', So it is leading the karakatva of 'A', or result of >Karakatva, > >so > > >it is result of house 'B'. > > >krushna > > > > > > > " Sanjay Jaggia " <sanjaygg > > > > > > > > > > > >Re: worksheet > > > >Mon, 22 Jan 2001 14:13:01 +0700 > > > > > > > >Respected Krushnaji, > > > > > > > >You have mentioned that 12th house is the result C of the 8th house. > >This > > > >is > > > >something that you have not elaborated before. It means that there is > > >some > > > >significance of the A B C houses. Could you please explain in detail? > > > > > > > >We know that B and C are the upachaya 6th and 10th from the 8th from >B > > >(A). > > > >We also know that D and E are the 10th and 6th from B or the 3rd and > >11th > > > >from A. However, when you say that C means the result, this is > >something > > > >that could help interpret charts in a different fashion. So you are > > > >requested to give more details. > > > > > > > >Kind regards > > > >Sanjay > > > > > > > >- > > > > " krushna kalani J.K. " <krushanain > > > > > > > >Sunday, January 21, 2001 3:17 AM > > > >Re: worksheet > > > > > > > > > > > >Dear Sylvia, > > > >You are correct, except for 12th house.it should be -1. others are > > >correct. > > > >Overall Moon is geting less then 12 points in mazor houses. Due to >the > > > >sight > > > >of Jupiter and Sun it's power is lost, and again it is with Rahu. >This > > >made > > > >the life short. Going in more details : > > > >For 9th house 5th house and 12th house it is aspected by 12th lord >from > > > >'B'. > > > >All these houses are related to 12th house. 12th itself is the result > >'C' > > > >of > > > >8th house. There are still some points, which should be considered. I > >am > > > >not > > > >going in more details. > > > >krushna > > > > > > > > >sylvia linzner <sylvia261 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Re: worksheet > > > > >Sat, 20 Jan 2001 11:08:49 -0800 > > > > > > > > > >Dear Krushna, > > > > >Thank you, but now I am getting for the moon 1st=2 2nd=9, 3rd=7, >4th= > > >1, > > > > >5th=1, 6th= 18, 7th==5, 8= 1, 9th=2, 10th=9 12th=1 > > > > >Sylvia > > > > > > > > > >On Sun, 21 Jan 2001 00:13:54 +0530 " krushna kalani J.K. " > > > > ><krushanain writes: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sylvia, > > > > > > This may be case when Jupiter and or Sun are the lord of House D > >or > > > > > > E. > > > > > > krushna > > > > > > > > > > > > >sylvia linzner <sylvia261 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > worksheet > > > > > > >Sat, 20 Jan 2001 09:47:05 -0800 > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Dear Sanjay, > > > > > > >On the worksheet on some of the houses for example, for >JonBenet > >it > > > > > > only > > > > > > >deducts 5 points for the moon instead of 10 for the aspect of > >Sun > > > > > > and > > > > > > >Jupiter. I have noticed that for other charts also. > > > > > > >Sylvia > > > > > > > >______________ > > > > > > >GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! > > > > > > >Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! > > > > > > >Join Juno today! 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Guest guest Posted February 4, 2001 Report Share Posted February 4, 2001 Margarita, If you look at instruction 5c, you would note that entry under Moon is permitted. This is according to a rule from Krushnaji. The rule is that 4th house points only go to malefic planets. Moon, even with less points, can never be considered a malefic. That is why I have blocked entry under the Moon. Sanjay - " Lettens " <dmlettens Sunday, February 04, 2001 6:27 PM worksheet Hello Sanjay, I have a question about the last worksheet you made for queen elisabeth. I also saved this worksheet as a template to use it for other charts. In the section " template for 4/10 relationship of planets " there are the cells under the Moon that are white (all others are bleu) In the bleu ones I can change the figures but in the white ones the cells are blocked. How can I unblock these cells please. My program asks a password !! Thank you for looking into that Best wishes Margarita Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2001 Report Share Posted February 4, 2001 Hello Sanjay, Thanks for the clarification. I didn't think of the malefic status of the Moon, but you are right Margarita - Sanjay Jaggia Monday, February 05, 2001 7:26 AM Re: worksheet Margarita,If you look at instruction 5c, you would note that entry under Moon ispermitted. This is according to a rule from Krushnaji. The rule is that 4thhouse points only go to malefic planets. Moon, even with less points, cannever be considered a malefic. That is why I have blocked entry under theMoon.Sanjay-"Lettens" <dmlettensSunday, February 04, 2001 6:27 PM worksheetHello Sanjay,I have a question about the last worksheet you made for queen elisabeth.I also saved this worksheet as a template to use it for other charts.In the section "template for 4/10 relationship of planets" there are thecells under the Moon that are white (all others are bleu)In the bleu ones I can change the figures but in the white ones the cellsare blocked.How can I unblock these cells please. My program asks a password !!Thank you for looking into thatBest wishesMargarita Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2001 Report Share Posted February 5, 2001 Dear Satish, Venus, is very sensitive, seventh sight of Sun. Moon,Mercury or Jupiter reduces the quality. Other sights of Saturn, increases, Mars gives attacking quality, and Jupiter give control. So Planet in opposite sign, reduces the quality (seventh sight) the quality of the Venus. Saturn and or Mars in association with Venus increases the sex appeal. Jupiter with Venus gives Control, or makes him hypocrite. with Sun result is as per degree. Mercury, with Venus, takes qualitis of Venus. Moon no masor effect. krushna 6th Feb 2001 01:00 am > " Sanjay Jaggia " <sanjaygg > > >Re: worksheet >Mon, 5 Feb 2001 13:16:41 +0700 > >Respected Krushnaji, > >I understand from your reply that Sun and Moon do not give any negative >effects even if these are 12th lords. > >Another question. You had said earlier that any planet in opposition to >Venus reduces its quality. In this mail, you are saying any aspect to Venus >reduces its quality. This is a more general term. Please advise if >association (being in the same sign) with another planet also reduces the >quality of Venus. > >Kind regards >Sanjay > >- > " krushna kalani J.K. " <krushanain > >Sunday, February 04, 2001 3:07 AM >Re: worksheet > > >Dear Sanjay, >my comments are in capital, > > > > " Sanjay Jaggia " <sanjaygg > > > > > >Re: worksheet > >Mon, 29 Jan 2001 19:08:02 +0700 > > > >Respected Krushnaji, > > > >Your comments on this would be appreciated. > > > >Kind regards > >Sanjay > > > >- > > " Sanjay Jaggia " <sanjaygg > > > >Thursday, January 25, 2001 4:34 PM > >Re: worksheet > > > > > >Respected Krushnaji, > > > >I am a little confused in this. Let us say Sun has 3 points and is the >12th > >lord. Let us say that it aspects B and also aspects another planet, say > >Venus. Now, by its aspect to B, it will add 5 points to its strength. > >Assuming it has no other aspects, it will increase its strength to >probably > >over 12 points. THE SUN AND MOON DO NOT GET THE EFFECT OF SIXTH LORD. SO > >IT SHOULD BE TREATED AS OTHER PLANETS. > > > >Its aspect to Venus would add five points to the strength of Venus. This > >would mean that Venus would become a stronger significator than it was > >without the aspect from Sun. YES YOU ARE CORRECT. (BUT SPECIALLY VENUS IS >A > >VERY SENSETIVE PLANET, ITS QUALITIES REDUCES IF HAVE ASPECT OF ANY >PLANET. > >) > > > >If we do not reduce the points, then Venus is likely to give the result. > >Does this mean that the aspect from the luminaries makes the " infected " > >planets give the result and these results turn out bad? WHEN I SAID THAT > >SUN AND MOON SHOULD NOT BE TREATED BAD AS 12TH LORD FROM HOUSE 'B', MEANS > >NO SUBTRACTION OF THE POINTS, GAINED DUE TO ITS SIGHT. OR THEY SHOULD BE > >TREATED AS OTHER PLANETS. > > > >Kindly explain with some examples. > > > >Kind regards > >Sanjay > > > >- > > " krushna kalani J.K. " <krushanain > > > >Wednesday, January 24, 2001 10:54 PM > >Re: worksheet > > > > > >Dear Sanjay, > > For Sun and Moon no effect should be given in numerical value. > >They > >do not effect contra, but at the same time do not help in the result. Yes >I > >should have mentioned this also for Sun. > >krushna > > > > > > > " Sanjay Jaggia " <sanjaygg > > > > > > > > >Re: worksheet > > >Wed, 24 Jan 2001 12:29:53 +0700 > > > > > >Respected Krushnaji, > > > > > >Thank you for the clarification. I have not completely understood it >but > >I > > >will read it several times and then revert with any questions. > > > > > >Just a small one for now. In one of your previous posts, you have said > >that > > >the Sun and Moon do not show 12th lord qualities. Why do you say then > >that > > >the aspect from the 12th lord Sun is bad. > > > > > >Kind regards > > >Sanjay > > > > > >- > > > " krushna kalani J.K. " <krushanain > > > > > >Wednesday, January 24, 2001 2:31 AM > > >Re: worksheet > > > > > > > > >Dear Sanjay, > > > Any result is a cummulative effect of all the houses. All the > >houses > > >are interrelated. The Moon is karak for longevity in the case under > > >discussion. And Moon is also natural karak of ninth house. The aspect >of > > >12th house lord from house 'B' spoils the results. > > > If we take 9th house as 'B' then Jupiter is the 12th lord and is > > >aspected by Jupiter. so result of 9th is also reduced. > > > If we take 5th house as house 'B " then Sun is the 12th lord and > >it > > >is > > >aspecting 'C' house ( 9th house) So result of 5th is also spoiled. > > > Taking 8th house as 'B' then 12th lord is Mars, and is >aspecting > > >house 'A'( 3rd house) > > > So I told in short that for 12th house as 'A' ( which is house > >'C' > > >for longevity) 6th and 10 house ( 'B' and 'C') from it are also >spoiled. > > > When 5th ( next generation) and 9th means next to next >generation > > >both are spoiled, 8th is spoiled so the longevity is heldup. Very short > > >life. 9TH ALSO REPRESENTS Father, who is also a sufferer. > > > This is for study purpose, not used in general for each and >every > > >result. For confirmation of any result cross check can be done. > > >krushna > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Sanjay Jaggia " <sanjaygg > > > > > > > > > > > >Re: worksheet > > > >Tue, 23 Jan 2001 14:48:22 +0700 > > > > > > > >Respected Krushnaji, > > > > > > > >Could you please guide us on how such principles are used in >practice? > > >Does > > > >this mean the that result would depend on the aspects being received >by > > > >house C? Or does this have another meaning? > > > > > > > >Kind regards > > > >Sanjay > > > > > > > >- > > > > " krushna kalani J.K. " <krushanain > > > > > > > >Tuesday, January 23, 2001 2:06 AM > > > >Re: worksheet > > > > > > > > > > > >Dear Sanjay, > > > > If you study the relation between House 'B' and 'C', You will > >find > > > >they are in 5:9 always. Mars, Sun, Jupiter; Venus, Mercury, and > > >Saturn; > > > >Moon and Mars : Sun and Jupiter are 5:9 combination. > > > > The fifth house from any house is the result or fulfilment. > > > >(AKANSHAPURTI) > > > > houe 'A' is karak of house 'B' and 'c' is the result. C house >is > > >10th > > > >from 'A', So it is leading the karakatva of 'A', or result of > >Karakatva, > > >so > > > >it is result of house 'B'. > > > >krushna > > > > > > > > > " Sanjay Jaggia " <sanjaygg > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Re: worksheet > > > > >Mon, 22 Jan 2001 14:13:01 +0700 > > > > > > > > > >Respected Krushnaji, > > > > > > > > > >You have mentioned that 12th house is the result C of the 8th >house. > > >This > > > > >is > > > > >something that you have not elaborated before. It means that there >is > > > >some > > > > >significance of the A B C houses. Could you please explain in >detail? > > > > > > > > > >We know that B and C are the upachaya 6th and 10th from the 8th >from > >B > > > >(A). > > > > >We also know that D and E are the 10th and 6th from B or the 3rd >and > > >11th > > > > >from A. However, when you say that C means the result, this is > > >something > > > > >that could help interpret charts in a different fashion. So you are > > > > >requested to give more details. > > > > > > > > > >Kind regards > > > > >Sanjay > > > > > > > > > >- > > > > > " krushna kalani J.K. " <krushanain > > > > > > > > > >Sunday, January 21, 2001 3:17 AM > > > > >Re: worksheet > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Dear Sylvia, > > > > >You are correct, except for 12th house.it should be -1. others are > > > >correct. > > > > >Overall Moon is geting less then 12 points in mazor houses. Due to > >the > > > > >sight > > > > >of Jupiter and Sun it's power is lost, and again it is with Rahu. > >This > > > >made > > > > >the life short. Going in more details : > > > > >For 9th house 5th house and 12th house it is aspected by 12th lord > >from > > > > >'B'. > > > > >All these houses are related to 12th house. 12th itself is the >result > > >'C' > > > > >of > > > > >8th house. There are still some points, which should be considered. >I > > >am > > > > >not > > > > >going in more details. > > > > >krushna > > > > > > > > > > >sylvia linzner <sylvia261 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Re: worksheet > > > > > >Sat, 20 Jan 2001 11:08:49 -0800 > > > > > > > > > > > >Dear Krushna, > > > > > >Thank you, but now I am getting for the moon 1st=2 2nd=9, 3rd=7, > >4th= > > > >1, > > > > > >5th=1, 6th= 18, 7th==5, 8= 1, 9th=2, 10th=9 12th=1 > > > > > >Sylvia > > > > > > > > > > > >On Sun, 21 Jan 2001 00:13:54 +0530 " krushna kalani J.K. " > > > > > ><krushanain writes: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sylvia, > > > > > > > This may be case when Jupiter and or Sun are the lord of House >D > > >or > > > > > > > E. > > > > > > > krushna > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >sylvia linzner <sylvia261 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > worksheet > > > > > > > >Sat, 20 Jan 2001 09:47:05 -0800 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Dear Sanjay, > > > > > > > >On the worksheet on some of the houses for example, for > >JonBenet > > >it > > > > > > > only > > > > > > > >deducts 5 points for the moon instead of 10 for the aspect of > > >Sun > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > >Jupiter. I have noticed that for other charts also. > > > > > > > >Sylvia > > > > > > > > > >______________ > > > > > > > >GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! > > > > > > > >Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! > > > > > > > >Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: > > > > > > > >http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >_______________________ > > > > > > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at > > > > > > > http://www.hotmail.com. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2001 Report Share Posted February 6, 2001 Respected Krushnaji, This is interesting. I have many more questions on this. I hope you would answer these on your return. The qualities or nature of Venus include the following: - Artistic inclination - Love of beauty - Vehicles and other physical comforts - Materialistic inclinations and urges - Spiritual practices of a lower level, i.e., use of mantras and rituals to advance 1. When you say that any planet in opposition to Venus reduces its qualities, do you mean the above qualities or some other ones? 2. Non opposition aspects of Saturn increases its quality. Does it mean that all the above points get enhanced and that Venus becomes a stronger significator of these matters? 3. Non opposition aspect of Mars gives attacking quality. Does this mean attacking quality to the natural attributes of Venus or to the things for which Venus is karak in the chart? 4. Mars or Saturn with Venus increase sex appeal. Does this mean that the person is more attracted to the opposite sex or is the opposite sex more attracted to the native? Kind regards Sanjay - " krushna kalani J.K. " <krushanain Tuesday, February 06, 2001 2:30 AM Re: worksheet Dear Satish, Venus, is very sensitive, seventh sight of Sun. Moon,Mercury or Jupiter reduces the quality. Other sights of Saturn, increases, Mars gives attacking quality, and Jupiter give control. So Planet in opposite sign, reduces the quality (seventh sight) the quality of the Venus. Saturn and or Mars in association with Venus increases the sex appeal. Jupiter with Venus gives Control, or makes him hypocrite. with Sun result is as per degree. Mercury, with Venus, takes qualitis of Venus. Moon no masor effect. krushna 6th Feb 2001 01:00 am > " Sanjay Jaggia " <sanjaygg > > >Re: worksheet >Mon, 5 Feb 2001 13:16:41 +0700 > >Respected Krushnaji, > >I understand from your reply that Sun and Moon do not give any negative >effects even if these are 12th lords. > >Another question. You had said earlier that any planet in opposition to >Venus reduces its quality. In this mail, you are saying any aspect to Venus >reduces its quality. This is a more general term. Please advise if >association (being in the same sign) with another planet also reduces the >quality of Venus. > >Kind regards >Sanjay > >- > " krushna kalani J.K. " <krushanain > >Sunday, February 04, 2001 3:07 AM >Re: worksheet > > >Dear Sanjay, >my comments are in capital, > > > > " Sanjay Jaggia " <sanjaygg > > > > > >Re: worksheet > >Mon, 29 Jan 2001 19:08:02 +0700 > > > >Respected Krushnaji, > > > >Your comments on this would be appreciated. > > > >Kind regards > >Sanjay > > > >- > > " Sanjay Jaggia " <sanjaygg > > > >Thursday, January 25, 2001 4:34 PM > >Re: worksheet > > > > > >Respected Krushnaji, > > > >I am a little confused in this. Let us say Sun has 3 points and is the >12th > >lord. Let us say that it aspects B and also aspects another planet, say > >Venus. Now, by its aspect to B, it will add 5 points to its strength. > >Assuming it has no other aspects, it will increase its strength to >probably > >over 12 points. THE SUN AND MOON DO NOT GET THE EFFECT OF SIXTH LORD. SO > >IT SHOULD BE TREATED AS OTHER PLANETS. > > > >Its aspect to Venus would add five points to the strength of Venus. This > >would mean that Venus would become a stronger significator than it was > >without the aspect from Sun. YES YOU ARE CORRECT. (BUT SPECIALLY VENUS IS >A > >VERY SENSETIVE PLANET, ITS QUALITIES REDUCES IF HAVE ASPECT OF ANY >PLANET. > >) > > > >If we do not reduce the points, then Venus is likely to give the result. > >Does this mean that the aspect from the luminaries makes the " infected " > >planets give the result and these results turn out bad? WHEN I SAID THAT > >SUN AND MOON SHOULD NOT BE TREATED BAD AS 12TH LORD FROM HOUSE 'B', MEANS > >NO SUBTRACTION OF THE POINTS, GAINED DUE TO ITS SIGHT. OR THEY SHOULD BE > >TREATED AS OTHER PLANETS. > > > >Kindly explain with some examples. > > > >Kind regards > >Sanjay > > > >- > > " krushna kalani J.K. " <krushanain > > > >Wednesday, January 24, 2001 10:54 PM > >Re: worksheet > > > > > >Dear Sanjay, > > For Sun and Moon no effect should be given in numerical value. > >They > >do not effect contra, but at the same time do not help in the result. Yes >I > >should have mentioned this also for Sun. > >krushna > > > > > > > " Sanjay Jaggia " <sanjaygg > > > > > > > > >Re: worksheet > > >Wed, 24 Jan 2001 12:29:53 +0700 > > > > > >Respected Krushnaji, > > > > > >Thank you for the clarification. I have not completely understood it >but > >I > > >will read it several times and then revert with any questions. > > > > > >Just a small one for now. In one of your previous posts, you have said > >that > > >the Sun and Moon do not show 12th lord qualities. Why do you say then > >that > > >the aspect from the 12th lord Sun is bad. > > > > > >Kind regards > > >Sanjay > > > > > >- > > > " krushna kalani J.K. " <krushanain > > > > > >Wednesday, January 24, 2001 2:31 AM > > >Re: worksheet > > > > > > > > >Dear Sanjay, > > > Any result is a cummulative effect of all the houses. All the > >houses > > >are interrelated. The Moon is karak for longevity in the case under > > >discussion. And Moon is also natural karak of ninth house. The aspect >of > > >12th house lord from house 'B' spoils the results. > > > If we take 9th house as 'B' then Jupiter is the 12th lord and is > > >aspected by Jupiter. so result of 9th is also reduced. > > > If we take 5th house as house 'B " then Sun is the 12th lord and > >it > > >is > > >aspecting 'C' house ( 9th house) So result of 5th is also spoiled. > > > Taking 8th house as 'B' then 12th lord is Mars, and is >aspecting > > >house 'A'( 3rd house) > > > So I told in short that for 12th house as 'A' ( which is house > >'C' > > >for longevity) 6th and 10 house ( 'B' and 'C') from it are also >spoiled. > > > When 5th ( next generation) and 9th means next to next >generation > > >both are spoiled, 8th is spoiled so the longevity is heldup. Very short > > >life. 9TH ALSO REPRESENTS Father, who is also a sufferer. > > > This is for study purpose, not used in general for each and >every > > >result. For confirmation of any result cross check can be done. > > >krushna > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Sanjay Jaggia " <sanjaygg > > > > > > > > > > > >Re: worksheet > > > >Tue, 23 Jan 2001 14:48:22 +0700 > > > > > > > >Respected Krushnaji, > > > > > > > >Could you please guide us on how such principles are used in >practice? > > >Does > > > >this mean the that result would depend on the aspects being received >by > > > >house C? Or does this have another meaning? > > > > > > > >Kind regards > > > >Sanjay > > > > > > > >- > > > > " krushna kalani J.K. " <krushanain > > > > > > > >Tuesday, January 23, 2001 2:06 AM > > > >Re: worksheet > > > > > > > > > > > >Dear Sanjay, > > > > If you study the relation between House 'B' and 'C', You will > >find > > > >they are in 5:9 always. Mars, Sun, Jupiter; Venus, Mercury, and > > >Saturn; > > > >Moon and Mars : Sun and Jupiter are 5:9 combination. > > > > The fifth house from any house is the result or fulfilment. > > > >(AKANSHAPURTI) > > > > houe 'A' is karak of house 'B' and 'c' is the result. C house >is > > >10th > > > >from 'A', So it is leading the karakatva of 'A', or result of > >Karakatva, > > >so > > > >it is result of house 'B'. > > > >krushna > > > > > > > > > " Sanjay Jaggia " <sanjaygg > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Re: worksheet > > > > >Mon, 22 Jan 2001 14:13:01 +0700 > > > > > > > > > >Respected Krushnaji, > > > > > > > > > >You have mentioned that 12th house is the result C of the 8th >house. > > >This > > > > >is > > > > >something that you have not elaborated before. It means that there >is > > > >some > > > > >significance of the A B C houses. Could you please explain in >detail? > > > > > > > > > >We know that B and C are the upachaya 6th and 10th from the 8th >from > >B > > > >(A). > > > > >We also know that D and E are the 10th and 6th from B or the 3rd >and > > >11th > > > > >from A. However, when you say that C means the result, this is > > >something > > > > >that could help interpret charts in a different fashion. So you are > > > > >requested to give more details. > > > > > > > > > >Kind regards > > > > >Sanjay > > > > > > > > > >- > > > > > " krushna kalani J.K. " <krushanain > > > > > > > > > >Sunday, January 21, 2001 3:17 AM > > > > >Re: worksheet > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Dear Sylvia, > > > > >You are correct, except for 12th house.it should be -1. others are > > > >correct. > > > > >Overall Moon is geting less then 12 points in mazor houses. Due to > >the > > > > >sight > > > > >of Jupiter and Sun it's power is lost, and again it is with Rahu. > >This > > > >made > > > > >the life short. Going in more details : > > > > >For 9th house 5th house and 12th house it is aspected by 12th lord > >from > > > > >'B'. > > > > >All these houses are related to 12th house. 12th itself is the >result > > >'C' > > > > >of > > > > >8th house. There are still some points, which should be considered. >I > > >am > > > > >not > > > > >going in more details. > > > > >krushna > > > > > > > > > > >sylvia linzner <sylvia261 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Re: worksheet > > > > > >Sat, 20 Jan 2001 11:08:49 -0800 > > > > > > > > > > > >Dear Krushna, > > > > > >Thank you, but now I am getting for the moon 1st=2 2nd=9, 3rd=7, > >4th= > > > >1, > > > > > >5th=1, 6th= 18, 7th==5, 8= 1, 9th=2, 10th=9 12th=1 > > > > > >Sylvia > > > > > > > > > > > >On Sun, 21 Jan 2001 00:13:54 +0530 " krushna kalani J.K. " > > > > > ><krushanain writes: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sylvia, > > > > > > > This may be case when Jupiter and or Sun are the lord of House >D > > >or > > > > > > > E. > > > > > > > krushna > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >sylvia linzner <sylvia261 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > worksheet > > > > > > > >Sat, 20 Jan 2001 09:47:05 -0800 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Dear Sanjay, > > > > > > > >On the worksheet on some of the houses for example, for > >JonBenet > > >it > > > > > > > only > > > > > > > >deducts 5 points for the moon instead of 10 for the aspect of > > >Sun > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > >Jupiter. I have noticed that for other charts also. > > > > > > > >Sylvia > > > > > > > > > >______________ > > > > > > > >GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! > > > > > > > >Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! > > > > > > > >Join Juno today! 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Guest guest Posted March 16, 2001 Report Share Posted March 16, 2001 Dear Sanjay, I have just done ABA -7 using your worksheet (which I still think is invaluable) and would just like to clarify something. Several rules were applied in ABA - 7 and I think I got them all correct but would just like to check. 1) When there are 2 planets in the same house and which have other planet/s 4 house from that house then the most malefic planet gets the points. 2) An exception to this is when the second planet is D or E lord in which case both planets get the points. What happens if there are 3 planets in the first house?. Do all three get the points if the 2 more benefic planets are lords of D or E?. 3) I know we have to add back the points of the Sun when it is 12th from B, am I correct in thinking that this also applies to the Moon. Peter Namaste Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2001 Report Share Posted March 16, 2001 Respected Peterji, If more then two planets are in first house, then the most melafic amongs them will get the points of the planet in fourth house. Even suppose four planets are there. then the planet which is having less points will be considered as most malefic. Now suppose if two planets are having similar points the as per the sign it should be considered. The planet in the sign of enemy will be more malefic then the planet in the sign of frien or neutral lord. 2. Again here both options are open. If lords of D and E both are in one house, then if they are less then 5 points then and then they can get the points from the planets in 4th place. For other planets the points should be less then 4. 3. Sun and Moon do not be treated as lord of 12th house from any house. krushna , " Peter Sutcliffe " <petermay@p...> wrote: > Dear Sanjay, > I have just done ABA -7 using your worksheet (which I still think is invaluable) and would just like to clarify something. Several rules were applied in ABA - 7 and I think I got them all correct but would just like to check. > 1) When there are 2 planets in the same house and which have other planet/s 4 house from that house then the most malefic planet gets the points. > 2) An exception to this is when the second planet is D or E lord in which case both planets get the points. What happens if there are 3 planets in the first house?. Do all three get the points if the 2 more benefic planets are lords of D or E?. > 3) I know we have to add back the points of the Sun when it is 12th from B, am I correct in thinking that this also applies to the Moon. > > Peter > Namaste Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2001 Report Share Posted March 16, 2001 Dear Peter, Please note my comments below. Regards Sanjay - " Peter Sutcliffe " <petermay Friday, March 16, 2001 4:24 PM Re: Worksheet Dear Sanjay, I have just done ABA -7 using your worksheet (which I still think is invaluable) and would just like to clarify something. Several rules were applied in ABA - 7 and I think I got them all correct but would just like to check. 1) When there are 2 planets in the same house and which have other planet/s 4 house from that house then the most malefic planet gets the points. - Correct 2) An exception to this is when the second planet is D or E lord in which case both planets get the points. What happens if there are 3 planets in the first house?. Do all three get the points if the 2 more benefic planets are lords of D or E?. - I am not aware of this rule. The lords of D or E get the points if they have 4 points. However, I believe that if there is another planet in the house with less than 4 points, then the lords of D or E would not get any points. All points would go to only the malefic planet. Look at it this way, there has to be one commander. It can be only one. So when you have 2 or more planets in the house, you can pick only one to be the commander. 3) I know we have to add back the points of the Sun when it is 12th from B, am I correct in thinking that this also applies to the Moon. - Absolutely. Peter Namaste Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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