Satsang with Nome - You Are - Question 6

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Another Q.: The knot assumed to be between the body and

Consciousness, the Cit-jada-granthi, is where we assume the ego to

be. That is as close as I can come to any idea of ego. That knot

seems to be almost entirely composed of the assumption that we

understand what perception is. It is identification with some process

of perception. Investigating the ego, asking " Who am I?, " is really

asking what this assumed perception is. The more I look into it, the

more I find that we have absolutely no idea of it. It is just pure

assumption, just like the ego or the Cit-jada-granthi. It seems that

this investigation into " Who am I? " is investigation into some

perception process that we assume exists but that does not exist at

all. That should clear up the knot. I never found anyone who will

discuss this or think about it. Everyone holds on tot this assumption

by not investigating.

 

N.: How is it that you speak of the " everybody " ?

 

Q.: In the phenomenal world, when I try to talk with somebody about

it, it evaporates then.

 

N.: By what means do you know the " phenomenal world " and

the " everybody " ?

 

Q.: That is the same thing that I am trying to investigate. It seems

to disappear as soon as I look at it. As soon as I look away from it,

I assume it is there.

 

N.: If the misperception or perceiving process comes and goes,

according to whether you look at it or not, as you put it, who is it

that has these two states?

 

Q.: Yes, that is the question.

 

N.: The emphasis is placed on identity. Who am I?

 

Q.: Right. As long as I assume that I am such and such, that I am a

connection between something that presents itself and something to

which it is presented…

 

N.: Who supposes that assumption?

 

Q.: That is the " Who am I? " question, yes?

 

N.: The assumption, that is, the assuming, and what is assumed are

identical. They are identical with the one who assumes. Thus, again,

the emphasis is upon identity. The Maharshi has very succinctly

stated it thus as " Who am I? "

 

A process must occur for someone. For whom would that process appear?

 

Q.: That is the assumption. That is the essence of " Who am I? " and

not what I am trying to describe.

 

N.: Abide in the essence, and then see what happens to the world,

everybody, and all else.

 

Q.: Jai Bhagavan.

 

N.: (Silence)

 

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Not two,

Richard