Satsang with Nome - Sahaja Samadhi - Question 3

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Another Q.: While you were revealing the Sahaja state, I had the

thought that I have lived a very long, long time in the city of

illusion. In this arising, I could ask, " Who is this `I' that has

lived there that long? " This inquiry swiftly reveals the absence of

this " I " that has lived there very long. Instantly, there is the true

Self, the true " I, " for which there is neither liberation nor

bondage. It happens that quickly. It is a shift from imagination to

abidance.

 

N.: The Reality is always there.

 

Q.: Yes, it is.

 

N.: So, you say that the shift from the illusion to the Real happens

so quickly, because it is already there.

 

Q. It is already there. The movement that seems to enter into the

idea of " I " seems to be almost instant in time. The arising of the

illusion seems to be the realm of time. Imagination seems to be in

the realm of time.

 

N.: Yes, and the time is also something imagined.

 

Q.: Yes, yes.

 

N.: So, it is not possible to say whether the " I " arises slowly and

gradually or quickly and suddenly.

 

Q.: That is true.

 

N.: Nor is it possible, or even reasonable, to say that it disappears

slowly or quickly.

 

Q.: I guess I cannot say that I have been in illusion for a long,

long time. Nor for a short time.

 

N.: We may say that to begin with, and that recognition impresses

upon us the urgency of knowing the Truth of the Self, the Reality.

Yet, a man who sees illusion as illusion is no longer in it. He finds

that he was never actually in it. It was an illusion, after all.

Otherwise, we would say that it was a reality.

 

Within the context of time, we could describe it like this. One

moment in Truth has more weight, more substance, than ages spent in

illusion.

 

Q.: Yes.

 

N.: Similarly, one drop of Bliss is worth more than eons of

suffering. One Knowledge of Liberation is worth far more than all the

delusive notions of being bound. Of course, That is not really

limited to a drop or a moment.

 

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Not two,

Richard