Guest guest Posted September 1, 2007 Report Share Posted September 1, 2007 Dear Group, Over the years I have seen misunderstanding from some followers of Ramana about discrimination as a part of Self-inquiry. Nome teaches that they are inseparable, that inquiry includes a discernment of the Real (that which is unchanging within each of us) and the unreal (everything else). The confusion may come from Ramana's words, where he said that saying " neti-neti " (not this, not this) does not constitute inquiry. In the retreat current going on at SAT, Nome is reading from and commenting on some Ramana works. Yesterday her was reading from Ramana's " Atma Vidya " (Self-Knowledge). Here is a verse that is relevant: 2. The Self, which shines as the Sun within the Heart, Is Real and all-pervading. `Twill reveal Itself as soon as false thought is destroyed And not one speck remains. For this thought is The cause of the appearance of false forms, The body and the world which seem to be Real things in spite of the Self, which steadfast stands The ever-changeless, firm as Truth itself. When the Self shines forth, darkness will be dispersed, Affliction cease and Bliss alone remain. A couple of points on this: First, the Heart is NOT any physical heart, nor the " two fingers to the right " heart. Nome says the Heart is, " the quintessence of your Being. " Now, how does one destroy thought? We are taught that one way is to ask, " For whom is the thought? " " For me " then " Who am I? " this returns one to the inquiry. To destroy thought, though, may require something more. To destroy thought one really needs to know deeply that thought and the so-called thinker are unreal. How does one do this? Through discrimination: Who am I? Do I exist when thinking? Do I exist when not thinking? If I exist when not thinking, how can I be a thought? Like this does the discrimination. Ramana says that chief among misidentifications is the misidentification with the body, thinking that the body is the self. How does one remove this misidentification? Discriminative inquiry. Inquiry is about the discovery (really `uncovering') of your identity. What is the nature of your existence? It is also involved with the removal of tendencies (vasana-s). In inquiry, one discards what is found to be ignorance, and to that extent there is dissolution of the ego. This brings a sense of greater freedom and inner peace. So, inquire and see for yourself what is Real and unchanging. How can you be anything that comes and goes? Find out for yourself. Not two, Richard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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