Guest guest Posted September 17, 2007 Report Share Posted September 17, 2007 Dear Harsha, Thank you for your reply. I just found that Ramana said, as you wrote, that the goal is Sahaj in this web site... http://www.advaita.org.uk/discourses/teachers/samadhi_ramana.htm Actually I thought Nirvikalpa meant that one doesn't return to the old way of seeing things, that is seeing things as separate, and a separate " I " . I also feel, as you said that it is not will that decides to give up action. This is my experience also. As it happens I live in a country where I haven't needed to work much at all,Australia, where we are given money(only enough to survive)if we don't work. This has given me the opportunity this lifetime to spend a lot of time to practice yoga asana & pranayam , meditation, attend satsangs, read texts etc. What a birth! And I only feel drawn to freedom from the illusion of wrong identification with the body mind as who I am. Some desire is there to massage people, as I do sometimes, and plant little seeds in them. But the truth is, this is not " me " desiring anything. I love this sangha, it is very inspiring. I wish everyone to reach the point of no return to the illusion of a false sense of self, but to a steady abidance in the peace of who one really is. Om Soul , Harsha wrote: > > Dear Soulyoginima, > > Sri Ramana did not do much reading on Advaita at first as he was mostly > in samadhi. When his consciousness normalized, he started doing some > reading. In the beginning he started reading to his attendant > Paliniswami, who found it difficult to read and understand and make > things out. > > Sri Ramana is one of those sages who became Self-Realized and only > afterwards discovered that Advaitic scriptures and works of Sri Sankra > were describing his realization. In that way, his Self-Realization is > the most mysterious as it came upon him spontaneously. > > Reading is an activity. Listening is an activity. Thinking is an > activity. All these are actions. Sri Krishna has said that it is not > action but attachment to action that binds us. Action cannot be given up > by will as it is according to our karma. Some people are bound to engage > in action. Others do not have to because it is not their karma or destiny. > > Most sages go through a period of seclusion and quiet giving up all > activity except reflection and contemplation which becomes natural. > > Nirvikalpa Samadhi usually results from one pointed meditation and > inquiry with reverence and devotion over a long period. Sri Ramana has > said that once someone has grasped the essential teaching, they need not > go on reading and reading. The thing is to meditate on the essence of > knowledge within oneself. > > You should read " Talks with Ramana Maharshi " . Too many teachers and too > many books can be confusing. There is saying that if you dig one hole > deep, you strike water. If you dig many little holes, it may not lead to > water. > > The goal in Sri Ramana's teaching is Sahaj Samadhi. Nirvikalpa Samadhi > reveals the Sahaj state. Sahaj means natural. To be who you are > naturally and spontaneously is the Sahaj state. > > Yours in Bhagavan > Love to all > Harsha > > soulyoginima wrote: > > Dear Sangha, > > > > Thank you so much for this. Now I have more to read.I read this from > > Nisargadattas teacher... > > > > > > " ...Ignorance has come by hearing it over and over for generations. > > Only by practicing and hearing otherwise, the truth, from the > > teachings of the Master(s) and thinking over it, just like the bird > > flies from one tree to another, one can attain Final Reality very fast. " > > > > This makes sense to me, to expose myself to more and more of the > > teachings. Make more time reading about truth and going to satsangs. > > It came to me also that with the computer, it's as good as having a > > living guru reminding me and lifting the veils that cover what I know, > > what I always knew. So many good teachers giving satsangs on Youtube, > > for example , and lots of texts to read, old and new. > > So many activities seem useless. They will not help me to reach the > > final goal, Nirvikalpa Samadhi. > > I don't have children and don't desire to work much..so have alot of > > time to keep exposing the mind to truth. With the aid of the great > > computer, consciousness in another amazing form. > > > > Does anyone know how much reading Ramana did in his years of > > seclusion? I know he loved Adi Shankaracharya. > > > > Om > > Soul > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2007 Report Share Posted September 17, 2007 May the exquisite peace of Oneself be known by the Many in the Allness of Being. May it be so. May the Sangha of Light spread throughout the world. Metta, Anna , " soulyoginima " <soulyoginima wrote: > > Dear Harsha, > > Thank you for your reply. I just found that Ramana said, as you wrote, > that the goal is Sahaj in this web site... > > http://www.advaita.org.uk/discourses/teachers/samadhi_ramana.htm > > Actually I thought Nirvikalpa meant that one doesn't return to the old > way of seeing things, that is seeing things as separate, and a > separate " I " . > > I also feel, as you said that it is not will that decides to give up > action. This is my experience also. As it happens I live in a country > where I haven't needed to work much at all,Australia, where we are > given money(only enough to survive)if we don't work. This has given me > the opportunity this lifetime to spend a lot of time to practice yoga > asana & pranayam , meditation, attend satsangs, read texts etc. > What a birth! And I only feel drawn to freedom from the illusion of > wrong identification with the body mind as who I am. Some desire is > there to massage people, as I do sometimes, and plant little seeds in > them. But the truth is, this is not " me " desiring anything. > > I love this sangha, it is very inspiring. > I wish everyone to reach the point of no return to the illusion of a > false sense of self, but to a steady abidance in the peace of who one > really is. > > Om > Soul > > > > > > , Harsha <harsha@> wrote: > > > > Dear Soulyoginima, > > > > Sri Ramana did not do much reading on Advaita at first as he was mostly > > in samadhi. When his consciousness normalized, he started doing some > > reading. In the beginning he started reading to his attendant > > Paliniswami, who found it difficult to read and understand and make > > things out. > > > > Sri Ramana is one of those sages who became Self-Realized and only > > afterwards discovered that Advaitic scriptures and works of Sri Sankra > > were describing his realization. In that way, his Self-Realization is > > the most mysterious as it came upon him spontaneously. > > > > Reading is an activity. Listening is an activity. Thinking is an > > activity. All these are actions. Sri Krishna has said that it is not > > action but attachment to action that binds us. Action cannot be > given up > > by will as it is according to our karma. Some people are bound to > engage > > in action. Others do not have to because it is not their karma or > destiny. > > > > Most sages go through a period of seclusion and quiet giving up all > > activity except reflection and contemplation which becomes natural. > > > > Nirvikalpa Samadhi usually results from one pointed meditation and > > inquiry with reverence and devotion over a long period. Sri Ramana has > > said that once someone has grasped the essential teaching, they need > not > > go on reading and reading. The thing is to meditate on the essence of > > knowledge within oneself. > > > > You should read " Talks with Ramana Maharshi " . Too many teachers and too > > many books can be confusing. There is saying that if you dig one hole > > deep, you strike water. If you dig many little holes, it may not > lead to > > water. > > > > The goal in Sri Ramana's teaching is Sahaj Samadhi. Nirvikalpa Samadhi > > reveals the Sahaj state. Sahaj means natural. To be who you are > > naturally and spontaneously is the Sahaj state. > > > > Yours in Bhagavan > > Love to all > > Harsha > > > > soulyoginima wrote: > > > Dear Sangha, > > > > > > Thank you so much for this. Now I have more to read.I read this from > > > Nisargadattas teacher... > > > > > > > > > " ...Ignorance has come by hearing it over and over for generations. > > > Only by practicing and hearing otherwise, the truth, from the > > > teachings of the Master(s) and thinking over it, just like the bird > > > flies from one tree to another, one can attain Final Reality very > fast. " > > > > > > This makes sense to me, to expose myself to more and more of the > > > teachings. Make more time reading about truth and going to satsangs. > > > It came to me also that with the computer, it's as good as having a > > > living guru reminding me and lifting the veils that cover what I know, > > > what I always knew. So many good teachers giving satsangs on Youtube, > > > for example , and lots of texts to read, old and new. > > > So many activities seem useless. They will not help me to reach the > > > final goal, Nirvikalpa Samadhi. > > > I don't have children and don't desire to work much..so have alot of > > > time to keep exposing the mind to truth. With the aid of the great > > > computer, consciousness in another amazing form. > > > > > > Does anyone know how much reading Ramana did in his years of > > > seclusion? I know he loved Adi Shankaracharya. > > > > > > Om > > > Soul > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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