Guest guest Posted February 20, 2000 Report Share Posted February 20, 2000 Yes! I had forgotten about the " parve " concept. (I was only raised & now as an adult keep kosher! ... duh!) Anyway, if you are trying to stay away from animal flesh and if you are vegan. Look for *parve* written on food packages. It basicly means *neutral* - containing no animal or dairy products. It is a stamp of approval from the rabbinate authority and they take the concept of *parve* VERY seriously! Phillipa << Again, look for the word pareve. >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2000 Report Share Posted February 20, 2000 It is my understandint that pareve can still contain fish, which is one of the sources of kosher gelatin. Pam Liz <itsme < > Sunday, February 20, 2000 11:39 AM kosher gelatin > " Liz " <itsme > >I can't say that all kosher gelatin is animal-free, but some of it >is. Look for the word " pareve " on the box. This means that it is >certified by a rabbi to be meat and dairy free. I have a box of it >in my cupboard so I know it exists. You may, however, have to go to >a kosher grocery to find it. You might also check kosher stores for >the ibuprofen you need. Again, look for the word pareve. > > >------ >Shop the web for great deals. Save on Computers, >electronics, Home furnishings and more. >http://click./1/1559/2/_/_/_/951071968/ >------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2000 Report Share Posted February 20, 2000 NO, parve means no fish too. Fish is it's own catagory of animal flesh. ie: must be served before meat and with separate plates than the meat etc. << It is my understandint that pareve can still contain fish, which is one of the sources of kosher gelatin. >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2001 Report Share Posted February 14, 2001 Lisa, There is also a brand called Ko-Jel that you could try. Or the Hain's superfruit " gelatin. " At least I think that's what it's called. I haven't used it in a while. Miriam -- Until we extend the circle of our compassion to all living things, we will not ourselves find peace. - Albert Schweitzer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2003 Report Share Posted April 23, 2003 To all those who were wondering about k-gelatin I wrote to www.vegan.com to put the question to Erik Marcus author of New Ethic of Eating Here was his reply To my knowledge, all " kosher " gelatin is nonvegan. I'd love to see some documentation to the contrary. There are, however, gelatin-like foods from plants, like agar agar. All the best, Erik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2003 Report Share Posted April 23, 2003 In a message dated 4/23/03 2:23:25 PM, Alemapyeksnip writes: > To my knowledge, all " kosher " gelatin is nonvegan. > No, no this isn't right. From vegsource.com: VEGETARIAN KOSHER GELS: These are made from the seaweed product carageenan, plus vegetable gums. They take longer to gel than agar, but make a more delicate product. The other advantage is that it does not have to be cooked at all, just mixed with hot liquid. They are called “kosher gels†because they were developed for use by orthodox Jews who do not mix milk and meat products together. However, there have been rabbinic rulings that certain animal gelatins are kosher, so be careful that the kosher gel you purchase is made from carageenan. HAINS NATURAL FOODS has a line of carageenan-gelled natural flavored “jello†mixes, available in suppermarkets as well as health-food stores. KOJEL UNFLAVORED JEL Sold by a vegan online store at: http://www.veganstore.com/ (go into “Begin Shoppingâ€, then “Food Itemsâ€, and then type “gelatin†into the search bar) Other popular brands include Carmel, Haddar, and Victors. You can find these brands (and Kojel) in kosher groceries and through online kosher shopping outlets, such as; http://www.kosherclub.com/ Kosher is a complex and confusing designation because there a various interpretations of the Kosher laws and different certifying groups that don't always agree. Kosher gelatin can be derived from various animals and not just " clean cows " . There are groups that believe that the gelatin is so processed and far removed from the " flesh " that it doesn't count. There is Kosher gelatin that is derived from fish, this meets all the requirements of pareve and Kosher laws for non-vegetarians, as fish is not considered " meat " because fish do not have red blood and therefore fish isn't " Koshered " by salting to remove blood. More and more Kosher products are using the fish derived gelatin. Then there is the vegetarian Kosher gelatin which is made from caragenan and locust bean gum or the like. These are vegan products. Companies such as Kojel, Carmel and Emes(if you can find it) make gelatin that fits this category. You just need to read labels and if the product (like marshmallows) only refers to Kosher gelatin you assume the worst. Phil " It's easy to say, 'It's not my child, not my community, not my world, not my problem'. Then there are those who see the need and respond. I consider those people my heroes. " - Fred Rogers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2003 Report Share Posted April 24, 2003 VEGETARIAN and VEGAN are totatlly different when it comes down to FOOD. Erik Marcus stated he knew of NO vegan gelatins Clearly the following is marked from vegsource........VEGETARIAN GELS ---- PhilLand Wednesday, April 23, 2003 21:16:24 Alemapyeksnip; Re: kosher gelatin In a message dated 4/23/03 2:23:25 PM, Alemapyeksnip writes: To my knowledge, all " kosher " gelatin is nonvegan. No, no this isn't right. From vegsource.com: VEGETARIAN KOSHER GELS: These are made from the seaweed product carageenan, plus vegetable gums. They take longer to gel than agar, but make a more delicate product. The other advantage is that it does not have to be cooked at all, just mixed with hot liquid. They are called “kosher gels†because they were developed for use by orthodox Jews who do not mix milk and meat products together. However, there have been rabbinic rulings that certain animal gelatins are kosher, so be careful that the kosher gel you purchase is made from carageenan. HAINS NATURAL FOODS has a line of carageenan-gelled natural flavored “jello†mixes, available in suppermarkets as well as health-food stores. KOJEL UNFLAVORED JEL Sold by a vegan online store at: http://www.veganstore.com/ (go into “Begin Shoppingâ€, then “Food Itemsâ€, and then type “gelatin†into the search bar) Other popular brands include Carmel, Haddar, and Victors. You can find these brands (and Kojel) in kosher groceries and through online kosher shopping outlets, such as; http://www.kosherclub.com/ Kosher is a complex and confusing designation because there a various interpretations of the Kosher laws and different certifying groups that don t always agree. Kosher gelatin can be derived from various animals and not just " clean cows " There are groups that believe that the gelatin is so processed and far removed from the " flesh " that it doesn't count. There is Kosher gelatin that is derived from fish, this meets all the requirements of pareve and Kosher laws for non-vegetarians, as fish is not considered " meat " because fish do not have red blood and therefore fish isn't " Koshered " by salting to remove blood. More and more Kosher products are using the fish derived gelatin. Then there is the vegetarian Kosher gelatin which is made from caragenan and locust bean gum or the like. These are vegan products. Companies such as Kojel, Carmel and Emes(if you can find it) make gelatin that fits this category. You just need to read labels and if the product (like marshmallows) only refers to Kosher gelatin you assume the worst. Phil " It's easy to say, 'It's not my child, not my community, not my world, not my problem'. Then there are those who see the need and respond. I consider those people my heroes. " - Fred Rogers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2003 Report Share Posted April 26, 2003 On Thu, 24 Apr 2003, alemapyeksnip wrote: > VEGETARIAN and VEGAN are totatlly different when it comes down to FOOD. > Erik Marcus stated he knew of NO vegan gelatins > Clearly the following is marked from vegsource........VEGETARIAN GELS If a kosher gelatin is made of seaweed with no introduced animal products, what would stop it from being both vegetarian and vegan? It's also worth noting that Erik Marcus did not say there definitely were no vegan kosher gelatins, only that he did not know of any personally. He's not omniscient, after all. ---- Patricia Bullington-McGuire <patricia The brilliant Cerebron, attacking the problem analytically, discovered three distinct kinds of dragon: the mythical, the chimerical, and the purely hypothetical. They were all, one might say, nonexistent, but each nonexisted in an entirely different way ... -- Stanislaw Lem, " Cyberiad " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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