Guest guest Posted June 4, 2001 Report Share Posted June 4, 2001 " Peter Montague reports, in Rachel's Environment & Health Weekly, that in order to avoid genetically engineered products you must leave off your shopping list all U.S.-manufactured non-organic corn syrup and fructose (found in almost all beverages and sodas, including Coca-Cola), all sweetened products, yogurt, and aspirin. You must also avoid canola oil, corn oil, corn starch, corn meal, baking soda, baking powder, and glycose syrup. Avoid all soy and soy products, including soy flour, pizza, cookies, cakes, pasta, meat product fillers (e.g., McDonald's hamburgers), vegetarian meat substitutes, tofu, soy milk, salad dressings with soy oil, lecithin and soy lecithin, infant formula, baby foods, diet and protein shakes, protein bars, chocolate and candy bars, margarine, ice cream, snack chips, and pet foods. You should also avoid Amylase (used in making bread, flour, cereals, starch), Catalase (used in making soft drinks, liquid whey and egg whites), and Lactase, which are all genetically altered. Most livestock and commercial seafood are fed genetically modified feed. And commercial pork has been genetically altered with human DNA. " (doesn't leave much, does it!) This is also upsetting: Among the big-name products that include genetically modified ingredients are Coca-Cola, Pillsbury, Fritos, Doritos and Ruffles chips, Green Giant Harvest Burgers, McDonald's french fries and Big Macs, Nestle's chocolate, Karo corn syrup, Nutra-Sweet, Kraft salad dressings, Fleishman's margarine, Similac infant formula, Isomil and Prosbee infant formulas, Land o' Lakes butter, and Cabot Creamery butter. " _______________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2001 Report Share Posted June 4, 2001 > " Peter Montague reports, in Rachel's Environment & Health >Weekly, that in order to > avoid genetically engineered products you must leave off >your shopping list Avoid all soy and soy products, including, vegetarian >meat > substitutes, tofu, soy milk, the good news here is,that most companies that produce such things are aware of the GMO ordeal and only use organic soybeans,and state so on the labels. Chris X _______________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2003 Report Share Posted May 7, 2003 > " Karen L. Thurston " <karen > > Also, re: boca anythings -- when Kraft bought the boca brand, they started > using bio-engineered everything... we started using Morningstar instead. Karen, AFAIK (As Far As I Know) Morningstar also uses GMOs (Genetically Modified Organisms). If you buy Bocas at a HFS, they don't contain GM products. Proving, of course, that Kraft could *easily* go GMO-free, but refuses to, for the mass market.... ~Doh --------- " There is *never* a good reason not to be as loving as you can possibly be. " ~Rob Brezny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2003 Report Share Posted May 7, 2003 Are you sure that if you buy them at a healthfood store they're GMO free? Are they labeled non GMO? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2003 Report Share Posted May 7, 2003 Thank you... but I thought that if something was labeled " organic " , it couldn't also be GMO? We buy only the organic soy products, so I thought we were relatively safe. Karen Doh! [dohdriver] Tuesday, May 06, 2003 8:50 PM GMOs > " Karen L. Thurston " <karen > > Also, re: boca anythings -- when Kraft bought the boca brand, they started > using bio-engineered everything... we started using Morningstar instead. Karen, AFAIK (As Far As I Know) Morningstar also uses GMOs (Genetically Modified Organisms). If you buy Bocas at a HFS, they don't contain GM products. Proving, of course, that Kraft could *easily* go GMO-free, but refuses to, for the mass market.... ~Doh --------- " There is *never* a good reason not to be as loving as you can possibly be. " ~Rob Brezny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 10, 2003 Report Share Posted May 10, 2003 > Re: GMOs > > Are you sure that if you buy them at a healthfood store they're GMO free? > Are they labeled non GMO? If they're labeled Organic ( " Made with Organic Soy " is the wording, I believe) then they're GMO, as per FDA definition. According to the Boca website, Organic Bocas are sold to HFS's; GMO Bocas to major grocers and restaurants, but as to which kind *your* store carries, you'll have to check the label. ~Doh --------- One is left with the horrible feeling now that war settles nothing; that to win a war is as disastrous as to lose one. ~Agatha Christie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 10, 2003 Report Share Posted May 10, 2003 > " Karen L. Thurston " <karen > RE: GMOs > > Thank you... but I thought that if something was labeled " organic " , it > couldn't also be GMO? We buy only the organic soy products, so I thought we > were relatively safe. > > Karen You're right - are Morningstar organic? The ones in our local grocers aren't, and we don't carry them at my Whole Foods. (Each Whole Foods has different rules for what they'll carry.) ~Doh > > Doh! [dohdriver] > >> " Karen L. Thurston " <karen >> >> Also, re: boca anythings -- when Kraft bought the boca brand, they started >> using bio-engineered everything... we started using Morningstar instead. > > Karen, > AFAIK (As Far As I Know) Morningstar also uses GMOs (Genetically Modified > Organisms). > > If you buy Bocas at a HFS, they don't contain GM products. > > Proving, of course, that Kraft could *easily* go GMO-free, but refuses to, > for the mass market.... > ~Doh --------- " There is *never* a good reason not to be as loving as you can possibly be. " ~Rob Brezny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2003 Report Share Posted May 12, 2003 Hi -- this is one thing that *really* annoys me (when I let it!) -- I just keep checking labels every time I buy something, in case it's a different " version " . What I've been buying is all labeled organic... I've been shopping at Shaw's and Hannaford's Whole Food markets, a local co-op, and Trader Joe's of course. Seems that the best way to be sure is to keep checking! Karen Doh! [dohdriver] Friday, May 09, 2003 9:30 PM Re: GMOs > " Karen L. Thurston " <karen > RE: GMOs > > Thank you... but I thought that if something was labeled " organic " , it > couldn't also be GMO? We buy only the organic soy products, so I thought we > were relatively safe. > > Karen You're right - are Morningstar organic? The ones in our local grocers aren't, and we don't carry them at my Whole Foods. (Each Whole Foods has different rules for what they'll carry.) ~Doh > > Doh! [dohdriver] > >> " Karen L. Thurston " <karen >> >> Also, re: boca anythings -- when Kraft bought the boca brand, they started >> using bio-engineered everything... we started using Morningstar instead. > > Karen, > AFAIK (As Far As I Know) Morningstar also uses GMOs (Genetically Modified > Organisms). > > If you buy Bocas at a HFS, they don't contain GM products. > > Proving, of course, that Kraft could *easily* go GMO-free, but refuses to, > for the mass market.... > ~Doh --------- " There is *never* a good reason not to be as loving as you can possibly be. " ~Rob Brezny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2003 Report Share Posted May 13, 2003 You are soooo right!! I mean just because it says " organic " doesn't mean that it has *never* had pesticides. There is a cut-off for using pesticides on foods sold with an organic label. The theory is that the nastiness will run out of its system before consumption. With all the new legislation, it's been hard to keep up. In Texas, we have chemical-free, transitional, and organic. That's why I'm in a co-op. We actually visit many of the local growers to see what they are *really* doing. My understanding is that it also depends on the state. Then, if you're ovo-lacto, the organic label does not guarantee humane treatment of the dairy cows, milk goats, or egg-laying hens. " Free-range " is also a dubious label. Grass fed is the way to go on the eggs if you eat them. Also try looking for " sustainably produced " notes. I highly recommend checking out your local farmers. Although I don't purchase eggs or milk, there are a number of local farms out here that sell sustainably produced, truly free-range, grass fed animal products. Imho, the best thing you can do is understand that all this stuff we are avoiding really is institutionalized. There are so many legal loopholes for the verbage we come to rely on in helping us determine the source and basis of the food we are purchasing, that it's mind-boggling. The FDA site has info on the definitions. In the meantime, hopefully we'll all recognize that each of us in in our own stage of the process and be respectful of that. I think that is what annoys me the most; people getting on others about their choices when we are all headed in the same direction, even if it is at different rates. Lucy *stepping down from her soap box for a minute or two......bbl....lol* " Karen L. Thurston " <karen wrote:Hi -- this is one thing that *really* annoys me (when I let it!) -- I just keep checking labels every time I buy something, in case it's a different " version " . What I've been buying is all labeled organic... I've been shopping at Shaw's and Hannaford's Whole Food markets, a local co-op, and Trader Joe's of course. Seems that the best way to be sure is to keep checking! Karen Doh! [dohdriver] Friday, May 09, 2003 9:30 PM Re: GMOs > " Karen L. Thurston " <karen > RE: GMOs > > Thank you... but I thought that if something was labeled " organic " , it > couldn't also be GMO? We buy only the organic soy products, so I thought we > were relatively safe. > > Karen You're right - are Morningstar organic? The ones in our local grocers aren't, and we don't carry them at my Whole Foods. (Each Whole Foods has different rules for what they'll carry.) ~Doh > > Doh! [dohdriver] > >> " Karen L. Thurston " <karen >> >> Also, re: boca anythings -- when Kraft bought the boca brand, they started >> using bio-engineered everything... we started using Morningstar instead. > > Karen, > AFAIK (As Far As I Know) Morningstar also uses GMOs (Genetically Modified > Organisms). > > If you buy Bocas at a HFS, they don't contain GM products. > > Proving, of course, that Kraft could *easily* go GMO-free, but refuses to, > for the mass market.... > ~Doh --------- " There is *never* a good reason not to be as loving as you can possibly be. " ~Rob Brezny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2003 Report Share Posted May 13, 2003 One more thing.....check out your state's agricultural dept. Many of them have info on local farmers online. You can also see your state's definitions AND find out who falls under which category. For instance, in Texas " Transitional " has more to do with the time required to jump through state hoops to get the " organic " label. That's not always feasible for the farmers, financially and otherwise. So they may opt for a different rating but still have desirable produce etc..... Lucy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2003 Report Share Posted May 20, 2003 can i ask what's HFS? i am assuming it has something to do with smaller businesses Doh! [dohdriver] Tuesday, May 06, 2003 7:50 PM GMOs > " Karen L. Thurston " <karen > > Also, re: boca anythings -- when Kraft bought the boca brand, they started > using bio-engineered everything... we started using Morningstar instead. Karen, AFAIK (As Far As I Know) Morningstar also uses GMOs (Genetically Modified Organisms). If you buy Bocas at a HFS, they don't contain GM products. Proving, of course, that Kraft could *easily* go GMO-free, but refuses to, for the mass market.... ~Doh --------- " There is *never* a good reason not to be as loving as you can possibly be. " ~Rob Brezny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2003 Report Share Posted May 21, 2003 HFS = Health Food Store Karen L. Thurston www.ThePrismSolutions.com <http://www.theprismsolutions.com/> Voice/FAX: 603 465-2867 Cell Phone: 603 571-2863 Natalie Yarbrough [natalie] Tuesday, May 20, 2003 2:54 PM RE: GMOs can i ask what's HFS? i am assuming it has something to do with smaller businesses Doh! [dohdriver] Tuesday, May 06, 2003 7:50 PM GMOs > " Karen L. Thurston " <karen > > Also, re: boca anythings -- when Kraft bought the boca brand, they started > using bio-engineered everything... we started using Morningstar instead. Karen, AFAIK (As Far As I Know) Morningstar also uses GMOs (Genetically Modified Organisms). If you buy Bocas at a HFS, they don't contain GM products. Proving, of course, that Kraft could *easily* go GMO-free, but refuses to, for the mass market.... ~Doh --------- " There is *never* a good reason not to be as loving as you can possibly be. " ~Rob Brezny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2003 Report Share Posted May 22, 2003 hfs=health food store. i'm glad to see that i'm not the only one who doesn't know these acronyms..... - Natalie Yarbrough Tuesday, May 20, 2003 2:53 PM RE: GMOs can i ask what's HFS? i am assuming it has something to do with smaller businesses Doh! [dohdriver] Tuesday, May 06, 2003 7:50 PM GMOs > " Karen L. Thurston " <karen > > Also, re: boca anythings -- when Kraft bought the boca brand, they started > using bio-engineered everything... we started using Morningstar instead. Karen, AFAIK (As Far As I Know) Morningstar also uses GMOs (Genetically Modified Organisms). If you buy Bocas at a HFS, they don't contain GM products. Proving, of course, that Kraft could *easily* go GMO-free, but refuses to, for the mass market.... ~Doh --------- " There is *never* a good reason not to be as loving as you can possibly be. " ~Rob Brezny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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