Guest guest Posted January 8, 2002 Report Share Posted January 8, 2002 Animalconcerns NewsLinks <anews wrote: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 20:55:46 -0500 (EST) Animalconcerns NewsLinks (KR) How much is that doggy on the menu? Reply-to: anews South Koreans defy demands that dog eating be banned in time for World Cup An international campaign led by Brigitte Bardot to use this year's soccer World Cup to stop the eating of dogs in South Korea has provoked outrage in Asia. http://www.nationalpost.com/artslife/life/story.html?f=/stories/20020107/105 4451.html <http://www.nationalpost.com/artslife/life/story.html?f=/stories/20020107/10 54451.html> Animalconcerns http://www.animalconcerns.org/ Your Portal to Animal Rights Organizations, Events, Jobs, and More News Headlines Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2002 Report Share Posted January 8, 2002 Very thoughtful. Thanks. In my life as a vegetarian, I found two major reasons (normally not stated, just inferred by me!) for why people are not vegetarians: 1. The animals they eat aren't necessarily " cute. " 2. No connection is made between the cause and the effect. The first point is fairly self-explanatory: people don't eat cats and dogs because they're cute. People don't eat horses because they're " beautiful creatures. " People eat pigs because they are just fat and ugly meat packages. The second point, I think, is the more insidious one. If people understood the process by which a hamburger makes it to their plate, I doubt many of them could stomach dining on one, if you'll pardon the expression. If you handed a bolt pistol, a meat hook, and a cleaver to the average person and said, " Here, go get your hamburger, " very few people would be able to do it with ease. But when it's served to you in a pretty colored paper wrapping with a cute teenager smiling at you while she *giggle!* hands it to you, and served as a formless, colorless brown food patty, all connection is lost between cause (living, breathing, pain-feeling animal) and effect (fun and tasty dinner). As a culture, we've decided to let other people do our dirty work of slaughtering these animals and packaging them up so that we don't get offended and we can eat our precious meat with a clear conscience. Well, that's just the way I see it, your mileage may vary. --Jeff - " Carla Brauer " <KarrotQueen Wednesday, January 09, 2002 3:29 PM Re: How much is that doggy on the menu? > These articles remind me of an encounter with a woman I had at a recent anti-fur demo. I offered her a leaflet, but she refused to take it, and told me rather frankly what a horrible, disgusting, " worthless piece of human exrement " she thought I was. I didn't get much of a chance to respond, since she fled into the store, so I decided to wait until she came out (she had to eventually, right?). > > She came out hours later, and before I could say anything to her, she asked me what I was doing to stop the Koreans from eating dog meat. I, of course, asked her what *she* was doing about it, and she simply said that she had already done her part (probably by complaining about it to me). But when I reminded her that the animals killed for fur are treated just as inhumanely, that there are no laws to protect them, that everything except for the pelt is wasted *and* that her beloved dogs and cats are still being killed for fur products that are completely unnecessary, she firmly defended the public's right to wear them. > > I think it's great that so many people are trying to get South Korea to stop killing at least one type of animal for meat, but how many of these people are going to go home and eat a different kind of dead animal for dinner? I don't see America pulling beef from its racks when people from cultures that revere these creatures come by for a visit. > > What is it that makes the torture of some animals unacceptable, but okay for others? Americans have technically illegalized dog & cat fur, but people are wearing their wild relatives like they were born fabric. I know a lot of people keep rabbits for pets, and yet I think I've seen more rabbit fur on humans than I have on the poor animals themselves! > > What do we have to do to get people to respect the rights of all sentient beings? I suspect it's going to be a long, hard journey toward enlightenment, but, even though progress is slow, progress is still being made. I think, even without our prodding, the human species will eventually come to respect the earth and all its creatures -- but I fear that this realization will come only after we've destroyed all that sustains us, and have recognized the tomb we've sealed ourselves in. > > It's up to us to prevent this from happening, by any means necessary. > > - Carla Brauer > karrotqueen > > " You must be the change you want to see in the world. " (Gandhi) > ... so, what are you waiting for? > > caft.org | vegan.org | tree-sit.org | idausa.org | envirolink.org | sfvs.org | animalliberation.net | indymedia.org | earthfirst.org | kpfa.org | projectcensored.org | ran.org | infoshop.org | primatefreedom.com | bankofamericaKills.com | furkills.org > > - > Erhhung Yuan > ' ' > Tuesday, January 08, 2002 11:27 AM > How much is that doggy on the menu? > > > Animalconcerns NewsLinks <anews wrote: > > Mon, 7 Jan 2002 20:55:46 -0500 (EST) > Animalconcerns NewsLinks > (KR) How much is that doggy on the menu? > Reply-to: anews > > South Koreans defy demands that dog eating be banned in time for World Cup > > An international campaign led by Brigitte Bardot to use this year's soccer > World Cup to stop the eating of dogs in South Korea has provoked outrage > in Asia. > > http://www.nationalpost.com/artslife/life/story.html?f=/stories/20020107/105 > 4451.html > <http://www.nationalpost.com/artslife/life/story.html?f=/stories/20020107/10 > 54451.html> > > Animalconcerns http://www.animalconcerns.org/ > Your Portal to Animal Rights Organizations, Events, Jobs, and More News > Headlines > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2002 Report Share Posted January 9, 2002 These articles remind me of an encounter with a woman I had at a recent anti-fur demo. I offered her a leaflet, but she refused to take it, and told me rather frankly what a horrible, disgusting, " worthless piece of human exrement " she thought I was. I didn't get much of a chance to respond, since she fled into the store, so I decided to wait until she came out (she had to eventually, right?). She came out hours later, and before I could say anything to her, she asked me what I was doing to stop the Koreans from eating dog meat. I, of course, asked her what *she* was doing about it, and she simply said that she had already done her part (probably by complaining about it to me). But when I reminded her that the animals killed for fur are treated just as inhumanely, that there are no laws to protect them, that everything except for the pelt is wasted *and* that her beloved dogs and cats are still being killed for fur products that are completely unnecessary, she firmly defended the public's right to wear them. I think it's great that so many people are trying to get South Korea to stop killing at least one type of animal for meat, but how many of these people are going to go home and eat a different kind of dead animal for dinner? I don't see America pulling beef from its racks when people from cultures that revere these creatures come by for a visit. What is it that makes the torture of some animals unacceptable, but okay for others? Americans have technically illegalized dog & cat fur, but people are wearing their wild relatives like they were born fabric. I know a lot of people keep rabbits for pets, and yet I think I've seen more rabbit fur on humans than I have on the poor animals themselves! What do we have to do to get people to respect the rights of all sentient beings? I suspect it's going to be a long, hard journey toward enlightenment, but, even though progress is slow, progress is still being made. I think, even without our prodding, the human species will eventually come to respect the earth and all its creatures -- but I fear that this realization will come only after we've destroyed all that sustains us, and have recognized the tomb we've sealed ourselves in. It's up to us to prevent this from happening, by any means necessary. - Carla Brauer karrotqueen " You must be the change you want to see in the world. " (Gandhi) .... so, what are you waiting for? caft.org | vegan.org | tree-sit.org | idausa.org | envirolink.org | sfvs.org | animalliberation.net | indymedia.org | earthfirst.org | kpfa.org | projectcensored.org | ran.org | infoshop.org | primatefreedom.com | bankofamericaKills.com | furkills.org - Erhhung Yuan ' ' Tuesday, January 08, 2002 11:27 AM How much is that doggy on the menu? Animalconcerns NewsLinks <anews wrote: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 20:55:46 -0500 (EST) Animalconcerns NewsLinks (KR) How much is that doggy on the menu? Reply-to: anews South Koreans defy demands that dog eating be banned in time for World Cup An international campaign led by Brigitte Bardot to use this year's soccer World Cup to stop the eating of dogs in South Korea has provoked outrage in Asia. http://www.nationalpost.com/artslife/life/story.html?f=/stories/20020107/105 4451.html <http://www.nationalpost.com/artslife/life/story.html?f=/stories/20020107/10 54451.html> Animalconcerns http://www.animalconcerns.org/ Your Portal to Animal Rights Organizations, Events, Jobs, and More News Headlines Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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