Guest guest Posted February 26, 2002 Report Share Posted February 26, 2002 Ah, Soyboy, as if life isn't complicated enough, you've got to come along with this little jewel of a dilemma. I'm assuming that contributing toward animal suffering violates your personal ethical code, and that refusal to cooperate in the creation of this ad would cost you your job. O.K. Options as my little mind sees them: 1. If sabotage and potential jail time and reimbursement do not violate your ethics... 2. If your personal ethical obligation to respect yourself by working and deriving income is weaker or less than your personal ethical obligation re respecting other species, then lay down your keyboard. If it is stronger or greater, then: 3. Do the ad and inform your employer why you object to it, and then do lots of animal rights related work to assuage your conscience, in the course of which you will be able to use the subliminal techniques you're apparently learning about on the job. 4. Whatever you choose to do, send your ethical conflict to The Ethicist - Randy Cohen - who writes a column responding to ethical questions in Sunday's N.Y. Times Magazine. His email is (or at least used to be) ethicist. Maybe explain the reasons for your position re animals and then it might get published - free advertising! Good luck, L.R. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2002 Report Share Posted February 26, 2002 > What would you do in this situation? I've been thinking of different > possibilities and it doesn't seem like their are too many options in this > case unless I want to risk losing my job. I can talk to management about > running ads like these in the future, but my gut tells me that they're too > bottom line focused. > I don't think there is much you can do, short of searching for another place of employment. It sounds like management has their minds made up and even though to us it might seem like they are sell-outs, not everybody shares the same views we do. And you shouldn't feel guilty for doing your job, it doesn't mean you have to agree with the ads. Again, you're just doing your job. You know in your heart and soul that if you were management, things would be very different. I have a similar dilemma that I will have to deal with in June. We are having a wedding at our home (me and my big mouth for offering) but we have the yard and a beautiful gazebo. The bride-to-be's family are big meat eaters, so at the reception they are bringing tons of beef and chicken over to barbecue My daughter and I are repulsed but at the same time we have to respect the bride-to-be's wishes. I had suggested salads, finger foods, veggie sandwiches..but much to my dismay they have their minds set. Doesn't mean I agree or I'm promoting meat eating in the least. There are just some situations that can't be avoided. One of the things I admire about us Vegans/Vegetarians is that we don't judge but rather go about trying to change the world for the better in gentle, subtle ways. Unlike the meat eating industries who flex their muscles and grunt with imagined superiority that they rule! We know better )..my 2¢ Take care, Landa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2002 Report Share Posted February 26, 2002 That brings up a great idea - keep track of how much time you spend on this project, multiply by your hourly rate, and send a check to the animal welfare charity of your choice. Thus you won't have profited from this situation. On Tue, 26 Feb 2002 louisroman wrote: > 3. Do the ad and inform your employer why you object to it, and then do lots > of animal rights related work to assuage your conscience, in the course of > which you will be able to use the subliminal techniques you're apparently > learning about on the job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2002 Report Share Posted February 26, 2002 Thanks for all of the replies. I could go on for pages and pages in response to them, but I'll keep it brief. It seems like those of us who work in the mainstream world are eventually faced with situations like this, and the challenge is doing the job while maintaining integrity and not compromising our values and principles. I won't feel guilty for placing these banners on the website, but it does force me to look at the choices I make in order to enjoy certain conveniences or to simply keep a roof over my head. We have other advertisers whose practices and products I object to, however this is the first time I'm directly involved in getting their message out. It's almost as though I've been looking the other way and now it's right in my face no matter which way I turn. This is where it becomes more than " just a job. " And maybe in the end it IS just a job and there are others to be had. The company I work for would never accept tobacco advertising because they know it adversely affects the health of their readers. (Plus they'd probably get slammed by many groups and individuals.) Maybe it comes down to ignorance more than anything else. They don't know that beef is unhealthy (for cows and humans!) so there probably was never even a thought about not accepting this ad. Most of them are meat eaters themselves. So at least, it seems I can attempt to present some facts to them and raise awareness of this issue. At most...I like the suggestions that have been presented. The big test will be how well I sleep tonight. Did I say this was going to be brief? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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