Guest guest Posted March 15, 2002 Report Share Posted March 15, 2002 > that dairy products has high IGF (insulin growth > factor) that contributes to cancer You might be interested in Stephen Walsh's (of the UK Vegan Society) article on milk and breast cancer which starts at: http://www.vegansociety.com/briefings/milkbreastcancer.htm After a thorough review of the studies to date, he concludes the following: " It is likely that the net effect of low-fat milk on colorectal cancer is modestly beneficial. For breast cancer, the evidence discussed above suggests that the various effects of milk are in approximate balance. For prostate cancer the net effect of milk appears to be notably adverse. In reference [14] Willett notes that " one of the most consistent observations has been an association between the consumption of dairy products and prostate cancer incidence or mortality. " The net effect on lung cancer is unclear. " It appears that the increase in IGF-1 levels after drinking milk is due to the protein and zinc content of milk, rather than the IGF-1 content. For one thing, IGF-1 is a protein and would only have a chance to impact digestive tract cells before being digested in most people. Jack > > Ann Wheat, part owner of Millennium, has been active > in informing folks about this even though people are > giving her deaf ears. If you want to get involved, > please contact PCRM. (sorry don't have the exact > contact) > == > I was helping someone look for a live-in > Nanny/housekeeping job... and saw this sad ad,, wow, > it also gives me a constant reminder of 2 lady friends > of mine (one was battling cancer since 38) that are > struggling against cancer.. > > here's the ad > > " Live in nanny wanted from three children (16), (16), > (12) who recently lost their mother > to cancer. > > .....sad.. > > == > coming soon, > > We are starting to work on Silent Auction and Fund > Raising events for Howard Lyman's movie. > > All donations are tax deductible. > > > > Sports - live college hoops coverage > http://sports./ > > > *Tell your friends to Be-A-Veg with SFBAVeg! To , send an e-mail to: > - > *To share a message with the group: > *Manage your SFBAVeg list subscription: > -Switch to no-mail: -nomail > -Switch to daily digest: -digest > -Switch to individual messages: -normal > -Leave the group: - > *If you have questions about the list, please contact Tammy & Chris, list > admins, at -owner > * > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2002 Report Share Posted March 15, 2002 Jack Norris <jacknorris Thu, 14 Mar 2002 16:58:54 -0800 > that dairy products has high IGF (insulin growth > factor) that contributes to cancer IGF-1 is produced by the liver in response to growth hormone output. GH and IGF are essential hormones and trust me you don't want to have too little. I have too little GH/IGF-1 and it's called Growth Hormone Deficency. It's part of why I am in a wheelchair. Dairy products do NOT have " high IGF " or high GH either. Read on. It appears that the increase in IGF-1 levels after drinking milk is due to the protein and zinc content of milk, rather than the IGF-1 content. For one thing, IGF-1 is a protein and would only have a chance to impact digestive tract cells before being digested in most people. No. IGF rises in direct response to growth hormone. If your pituitary gland produces too much GH, you'll have high levels of IGF. It has nothing to do with the protein or zinc content of milk. There is a connection between protein intake and GH but it basically means if you're deficent, it's even more important to get adequate protein, from any source. Zinc is an essential mineral but it's not connected directly with GH. Even if you get too much protein (hard) or too much zinc (rare), it won't affect your GH/IGF levels, as far as I know. And certainly milk is a poor to medium source of either. Too high levels of IGF are correlated with cancer. As far as I can tell, there's no evidence that GH causes cancer. But, there is plenty of evidence that high levels of GH (as reflected by IGF-1 levels in the blood...GH itself is very hard to measure) increase the growth of existing cancer cells. So you don't want too much. Too much GH also causes a (rare) hormonal condition called acromegaly that includes strange overgrowths. IGF and GH are good things to have. Just remember that they are GROWTH factors. You must have them to lead a healthy life but sometimes you have things (cancer cells) you don't want to grow too much. It's a matter of balance. There is nothing about dairy itself that is connected with GH or IGF. So then where is the connection? It's Bovine Growth Hormone. BGH is the cow version of Human Growth Hormone. Commercial dairy cows get it so they will produce more milk. It causes all sorts of problems, including chronic mastitis (part of the reason why commercial dairy cows get massive amounts of antibiotics). Despite what the industry says, BGH causes problems in humans who treat milk from cows treated with it. There are a bunch of reasons for this but two big ones are: 1) Humans should have HUMAN growth hormone (bovine growth hormone is for cows); 2) The BGH cows get is genetically engineered, not at all a natural bovine product. One more reason why, if you eat dairy products at all, you should buy organic. Organic dairy cows don't get BGH and they don't get antibiotics (unless they are sick and then their milk can't be sold as organic for several months). Another option of course is to avoid dairy altogether. Your choice. Just make sure your choices (and your attempts to influence other people's choices) are done for reasons that hold up factually. Cyndi -- _____________________________ " There's nothing wrong with me. Maybe there's Cyndi Norman something wrong with the universe. " (ST:TNG) cyndi http://www.tikvah.com/ _________________ Owner of the Immune Website & Lists http://www.immuneweb.org/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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