Guest guest Posted July 6, 2002 Report Share Posted July 6, 2002 File a Citizens's complaint with whatever Oversight Board they have there. Go to the city council meetings and complain. Go down to the police station and go up the hierarchy and complain, supervisor by supervisor. Don't be irrational about it; but let them know they have caused you emotional damage and that their current policies about allowing cops to shoot a dog that comes running towards them without first trying to a)ascertain hostility beyond barking and b)deal with it non-lethally is simply bigoted and stupid and abusive of everyone concerned. C'mon, everyone has felt the rush of adrenalin when large dogs come running up to you barking, yet we don't all just shoot them, do we? And how many times have we been rushed that way, and received no bites? It's just typical dog behavior that most of us have learned to deal with, without lethal force. Not cops, or not most cops.. All these people pleading the cop's case seem to be trying to tie in patriotism and Sep11 and Diane Whipple, when they simply are not relevant. Diane Whipple was a thin small woman attacked by two huge dogs in a confined area; that's a far cry from an armed cop w/pepper spray who's faced a million barking dogs outdoors where he could possibly just evade them by backing off or talking to them calmly and friendly as most of us do when charged by dogs. The truth is cops don't value the human life of ordinary citizens as you are will aware of; so a dog is nothing to them. It was simply more convenient for the guy to shoot your dog than try to deal with it any other way. Fight back!! Ronni - <lawyerboy Saturday, July 06, 2002 10:04 AM [sFBAVeg] Re: dog murderers > First off all, I am sorry to hear about your loss. I hope you can get > all the help and comfort you need during this difficult time. > > However, I do not think a legal action against the police officers is > advisable. Please let me explain (and, yes, I am a lawyer). > > > >His two German Shepherds, Roman and Dallas, ran towards them, barking. > (They > >had gotten out when someone kicked in an upstairs door sometime during > the night.) > > From the officers' perspective, they saw two dogs (of a breed known to be > [sometimes] vicious) charging them. In light of the horrific death of > Diane Whipple, people (including officers...they're people as well) have > become heightened to dog attacks. While you may know the dogs to be > harmless, the officers did not, and they only had seconds to react. What > officers do know is that German Shepards are often used in K-9 units, so > they know the potential for lethality that such dogs have. > > > > Kaney also said he didn't want to take any chances that the pepper > spray > > might be ineffective and the dog bite him anyway. However, he never > let the > > dogs get close enough to see if they would even bite him or if they > would > > hurt him at all. > > Again, the officers only had seconds to react. People, including > officers, make mistakes. In the law, there's something called " qualified > immunity. " It means that if an officer made an honest mistake (but only > realized as a " mistake " with 20/20 hindsight), then the law acknowledges > that officers (even highly trained ones) are forced to make difficult > decisions in very stressful situations and in an incredibly short amount > of time, and sometimes they get it wrong. > > So the officers didn't make the best choice, but no one ever always make > the best choice. And as it has been pointed out, two dogs charging is a > threatening situation. If the pepper spray was ineffective, the officers > (from their perspective) thought they might not have had the opportunity > to then draw their guns and safely take a shot. That's not an > unreasonable belief. > > > > He was afraid of getting a little wound, so the coward killed Roman in > cold blood. > > Again, in the light of Diane Whipple's death, I think the fear of two > unkown, charging dogs is not cowardly. > > > So, yes, you could file a lawsuit or make a report to the police review > board. But I do not think it will have any effect other than delaying > your grieving process. I know you have suffered a loss, but I do not > think this avenue will provide you with any solace, but rather only more > frustration and hurt. > > Peace. > --eric. > > > *Tell your friends to Be-A-Veg with SFBAVeg! To , send an e-mail to: - > *To share a message with the group: > *Manage your SFBAVeg list subscription: > -Switch to no-mail: -nomail > -Switch to daily digest: -digest > -Switch to individual messages: -normal > -Leave the group: - > *If you have questions about the list, please contact Tammy and Chris, list admins, at -owner > * > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2002 Report Share Posted July 7, 2002 >>...the person(s) who let the dogs escape are more culpable than the police. ...public sympathy is not currently with owners of dogs perceived to be vicious. << IMHO, a couple of excellent points to be considered before any further action is taken. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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