Guest guest Posted July 26, 2002 Report Share Posted July 26, 2002 Also fish are cold blooded so the pathogens in fish are not slowed very much by refrigeration in comparison to meat.. Thus it is a large cause of food poisoning. (often severe) The biggest marketing point on fish at this time is omega 3... cracked flaxseed is safer alternative. Bill Harris http://www.vegsource.com/harris/going_vegan.htm I think had an article on this: showing with USDA numbers that most thins green have lots of omega 3: I could not find it at this time. but the same basic info starts on page 152 of his " The Scientific Basis of Vegetarianism " He is an interesting individual and fine example of a healthy vegan. Veg since 1950 and vegan from 1963. An example of what an MD could be.. http://www.vegsource.com/harris/bio.htm Tim Smith MD on fish: http://www.renewalresearch.com/con_ren_diet_whataboutfish.htm I think Neal Bernard or Howard Lyman tells a story of people who loved eating fish in Mexico until they found out they had 10X Mercury toxicity... after they found that out they lost their appetite. Ian Albert [ialbert] Thursday, July 25, 2002 5:48 PM [sFBAVeg] Re: health effects of fish As fish tend to be the only carnivores that Americans eat on a regular basis, they can be a wonderful source of pesticides (like DDT) and other contaminants (like dioxin and PCBs). As the big fish (the ones people eat) eat the smaller fish, toxins in their flesh can build to very high levels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2002 Report Share Posted July 26, 2002 Kim, > > I sometimes " cheat " - I may have a bit of cake at a friend's > >wedding or have part of the vegetarian entree that may not be vegan. > >I'm curious as to what others do in this sort of situation- do you > >just not eat? There seems to be two different thoughts on this sort of thing. Here is some writing my organization, Vegan Outreach, has done on the subject: http://www.veganoutreach.org/advocacy/path.html#veganpolice In my view, it's best not to worry about imperceptible amounts of animal products. > >Anyway, my primary motivation for being vegan is animal welfare. I > >know that I'm doing the right thing for the environment, and I feel > >like I'm following the best diet for my health. > >My biggest frustration is being surrounded by people (coworkers, > >friends, family members) who continue to eat meat- even when they > >have enough information to know that cruelty is involved. Leaving some Why Vegans booklets on your desk at work might get some of your co-workers interested: http://www.veganoutreach.org/advocacy/resources.html > > Does anyone know of some literature on the health effects > >of eating fish- and of research regarding their responses to fear or > >pain? I need to be able to refer to some solid studies, because my > >friends are skeptics! Fish, like most foods, has positives and negatives. When people who eat fish but no other meat have been compared to vegetarians, they have been just as healthy. See: http://www.veganoutreach.org/health/stayinghealthy.html#currentstateofveganh ealth A study on vegetarians, who were not supplementing their diets with omega-3s, showed that their blood-clotting time was shorter than non-vegetarians, probably due to a lack of omega-3's. Vegans have been consistently shown to have lower levels of omega-3 fatty acids in their cells. So, there is strong reason to believe that vegans should pay attention to omega-3s. I (and a number of other vegan health professionals such as Michael Greger, MD, Brenda Davis, RD, Ginny Messina, MS, RD and more) recommend the amount of omega-3s that are found in 1 teaspoon of flaxseed oil a day. If I was arguing with my co-workers, I would not let the argument stray towards whether fish are a healthy food, whether humans evolved as vegetarians are carnivores, etc. I would keep the subject about reducing suffering for which there is no strong counterargument other than, " I don't care about suffering. " If they say that a vegetarian diet is unhealthy, the link above can provide you with information that it is, in fact, healthy. As you hinted, in the case of fish, there is an argument that they don't suffer. Vegan Outreach has some information on fish on this page: http://www.veganoutreach.org/whyvegan/animals.html And here is Peta's site about fish: http://www.nofishing.net/pain.html Jack Norris, RD, Vegan Outreach 916/375-0014 jacknorris http://veganoutreach.org > >I'm grateful for this forum- as a resource for upcoming events and > >information, and as a means of feeling connected to others with > >similar viewpoints. > > > >Peace, > > > >Kim > > > > > > > >*Tell your friends to Be-A-Veg with SFBAVeg! To , send an e-mail > >to: - > >*To share a message with the group: > >*Manage your SFBAVeg list subscription: > >-Switch to no-mail: -nomail > >-Switch to daily digest: -digest > >-Switch to individual messages: -normal > >-Leave the group: - > >*If you have questions about the list, please contact Tammy and Chris, > >list admins, at -owner > >*/ > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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