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Tracey wrote:

 

 

1. Is this group mostly vegans?

I'M VEGETARIAN (dont eat eggs though, but other dairy pdts i do). I

DONT UNDERSTAND WHY PEOPLE CUT OUT ALL DIARY PRODUCTS IF THEY ARE NOT

ALLERGIC TO IT? WHAT IS WRONG WITH DRINKING MILK ETC! DOES THIS MEAN

THEY CANT EAT BREAD ETC. THAT HAS MILK IN IT?

 

 

2. Are there men on here too

 

I'M FEMALE 2

 

3. As a vegetarian, do you check every food label for meat additives

like

gelatin?

 

MOST (NEARLY ALL) PRODUCTS IN IRELAND SAY 'SUITABLE FOR VEGETARIANS'

SO I DONT HAVE TO CHECK FOR GELATIN AS OFTEN.

 

4. Does anyone know of some really good colleges that have something

like a

vegetarian support group and cafeteria options?

 

I DONT THINK THE PLACES IN IRELAND WILL HELP YOU, UNLESS YOU COME

HERE ON A VISIT. BUT NEARLY EVERYWHERE HAS VEGGIE OPTIONS

 

 

5. Is New York like the " City of Vegetarians? " there seem to be so

many

veggie restaurants there

 

 

I THINK THERE ARE A LOT OF VEGGIES IN IRELAND AND UK, ESPEC AFTER MAD

COW DISEASE AND FOOT & MOUTH DISEASE ETC.

 

6. Are there any really obvious animal product that I should look

out for

besides gelatin?

MOST CHEESE IN IRELAND IS SUITABLE FOR VEGGIES. I ALSO KNOW SOME

ALCOHOL IS NOT SUITABLE, eg I THINK WISKEY USES FISH BONES IN THE

REFINING STAGES ETC, SOME WINES AS WELL. THERE WAS A WEBSITE THAT

LISTED THEM, BUT CANT FIND NOW. BEER IS OK, AS ITS NOT REFINED LIKE

PURE ALCOHOL.

 

 

7. Do you find being a veggie more expensive then not being one?

YEP IT IS REALLY CHEAP. I DONT GO IN FOR THE VEGGIE/SOY = QUORN

BURGERS THOUGH.

 

 

8. Does any celebrate (and if so, how) World Vegetarian Day, which is

October 1? Or the Great American Meatout on March 20th?

 

 

WE ARE HAVING A VEGGIE DAY ON SEPT. 29TH IN DUBLIN,IRELAND. THATS

ABOUT THE ONLY VEGGIE DAY I KNOW.

 

 

 

9. Which is the best veggie magazine out there that people in the US

can

receive? (I don't have money to to all of them to get a

sampling!)

 

 

I KNOW THE 'BBC' HAVE A VEGETARIAN MAG.

 

 

10. Does anyone actually know someone who practices Jainism? (I

found it to

be a wonderful religion to research)

 

 

NEVER HEARD OF IT, PREFER TO NOT BE A PART OF A 'RELIGION', IT CAUSES

TOO MUCH WAR, eg. NORTHERN IRELAND. I JUST BELIEVE WE SHOULD BE NICE

PEOPLE AND NOT HARM OTHERS OR THE PLANET.

 

11. Plastic or Paper? (sorry, had to add it)

 

 

IN IRELAND WE HAVE REUSABLE SHOPPING BAGS, SO THEY MADE OUT OF HEAVY

MATERIAL, YOU CANT GET PLASTIC BAGS, IT WAS BANNED A FEW MONTHS AGO,

THE UK MAY FOLLOW TOO. WE CAN GET PAPER BAGS IN CLOTHES SHOPS. CELL

PHONES IN CARS WERE ALSO BANNED, AND THE UK MAY FELLOW THAT 2, AS

WELL AS NOT DRINKING,EATING, ETC. IN CARS WHILE THEY ARE MOVING.

SOMETHING I WAS SURPRISED TO SEE IN AMERICA, PEOPLE DRIVING AND

DRINKING COFFE AT SAME TIME, VERY BAD.

 

Please don't think that these questions mean I'm undereducated. I do

what I

can, and I'm really excited to learn and listen to advise from some

" seasoned " veggies. Pun not intended. HA HA HA

 

D

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#1 Vegetarian/vegan status would have to be determined by a mass survey.

Truthfully, I believe there is a higher percentage of vegetarians than vegans on

this list. Please don't quote me, the flaming can be a bit much at times.

Consuming milk and other dairy products is avoided for reasons due to their

production, the effects upon/treatment of the animals, and the environmental

concerns. Consult a PETA website. A plethora of information and links reside

there

#2 Of course, there are men on this list, me , for example

#3 I shop for foods that are as fresh as possible, not canned if at all

possible. I prepare most of my own meals so that I am aware of what I consume.

Hidden additives and unknown extras are kept to a minimum

#4 I am unable to help with college info. My university is woefully insufficient

in this area as well.

#5 For its size, I should think San Francisco and the bay area would give any

city a run for #1. New York is so big, that it might have more veg restaurants

as far as sheer numbers.

#6 Cannot speak to this

#7 I have found that vegetarian products have a slightly higher price generally

than non. But the bill at the Co-op always seems to be comparable to what I

payed at the other stores when I was not veg. The major difference is the wide

variety of food I am able to get now.

#8 Everyday is a celebration of eating

#9 I am not an authority, but Vegetarian Times has always been my fave.

#10 Never heard of that religion

#11 The Co-op always gives me a nickel credit towards my bill with each produce

box I re-use.

 

Steve

 

" an_irish_vegetarian " <an_irish_vegetarian

 

Wed Aug 21 07:58:17 PDT 2002

[sFBAVeg] Veggie Survey

 

>

>Tracey wrote:

>

>

>1. Is this group mostly vegans?

>I'M VEGETARIAN (dont eat eggs though, but other dairy pdts i do). I

>DONT UNDERSTAND WHY PEOPLE CUT OUT ALL DIARY PRODUCTS IF THEY ARE NOT

>ALLERGIC TO IT? WHAT IS WRONG WITH DRINKING MILK ETC! DOES THIS MEAN

>THEY CANT EAT BREAD ETC. THAT HAS MILK IN IT?

>

>

>2. Are there men on here too

>

>I'M FEMALE 2

>

>3. As a vegetarian, do you check every food label for meat additives

>like

>gelatin?

>

>MOST (NEARLY ALL) PRODUCTS IN IRELAND SAY 'SUITABLE FOR VEGETARIANS'

>SO I DONT HAVE TO CHECK FOR GELATIN AS OFTEN.

>

>4. Does anyone know of some really good colleges that have something

>like a

>vegetarian support group and cafeteria options?

>

>I DONT THINK THE PLACES IN IRELAND WILL HELP YOU, UNLESS YOU COME

>HERE ON A VISIT. BUT NEARLY EVERYWHERE HAS VEGGIE OPTIONS

>

>

>5. Is New York like the " City of Vegetarians? " there seem to be so

>many

>veggie restaurants there

>

>

>I THINK THERE ARE A LOT OF VEGGIES IN IRELAND AND UK, ESPEC AFTER MAD

>COW DISEASE AND FOOT & MOUTH DISEASE ETC.

>

>6. Are there any really obvious animal product that I should look

>out for

>besides gelatin?

>MOST CHEESE IN IRELAND IS SUITABLE FOR VEGGIES. I ALSO KNOW SOME

>ALCOHOL IS NOT SUITABLE, eg I THINK WISKEY USES FISH BONES IN THE

>REFINING STAGES ETC, SOME WINES AS WELL. THERE WAS A WEBSITE THAT

>LISTED THEM, BUT CANT FIND NOW. BEER IS OK, AS ITS NOT REFINED LIKE

>PURE ALCOHOL.

>

>

>7. Do you find being a veggie more expensive then not being one?

>YEP IT IS REALLY CHEAP. I DONT GO IN FOR THE VEGGIE/SOY = QUORN

>BURGERS THOUGH.

>

>

>8. Does any celebrate (and if so, how) World Vegetarian Day, which is

>October 1? Or the Great American Meatout on March 20th?

>

>

>WE ARE HAVING A VEGGIE DAY ON SEPT. 29TH IN DUBLIN,IRELAND. THATS

>ABOUT THE ONLY VEGGIE DAY I KNOW.

>

>

>

>9. Which is the best veggie magazine out there that people in the US

>can

>receive? (I don't have money to to all of them to get a

>sampling!)

>

>

>I KNOW THE 'BBC' HAVE A VEGETARIAN MAG.

>

>

>10. Does anyone actually know someone who practices Jainism? (I

>found it to

>be a wonderful religion to research)

>

>

>NEVER HEARD OF IT, PREFER TO NOT BE A PART OF A 'RELIGION', IT CAUSES

>TOO MUCH WAR, eg. NORTHERN IRELAND. I JUST BELIEVE WE SHOULD BE NICE

>PEOPLE AND NOT HARM OTHERS OR THE PLANET.

>

>11. Plastic or Paper? (sorry, had to add it)

>

>

>IN IRELAND WE HAVE REUSABLE SHOPPING BAGS, SO THEY MADE OUT OF HEAVY

>MATERIAL, YOU CANT GET PLASTIC BAGS, IT WAS BANNED A FEW MONTHS AGO,

>THE UK MAY FOLLOW TOO. WE CAN GET PAPER BAGS IN CLOTHES SHOPS. CELL

>PHONES IN CARS WERE ALSO BANNED, AND THE UK MAY FELLOW THAT 2, AS

>WELL AS NOT DRINKING,EATING, ETC. IN CARS WHILE THEY ARE MOVING.

>SOMETHING I WAS SURPRISED TO SEE IN AMERICA, PEOPLE DRIVING AND

>DRINKING COFFE AT SAME TIME, VERY BAD.

>

>Please don't think that these questions mean I'm undereducated. I do

>what I

>can, and I'm really excited to learn and listen to advise from some

> " seasoned " veggies. Pun not intended. HA HA HA

>

>D

>

>

>

>

>

>

>*To share a message with the group:

>*Got Questions? We got answers! See the SFBAVeg FAQ at

http://www.generationv.org/faq.htm

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> 1. Is this group mostly vegans?

 

I doubt it - vegetarians are much more prevalant than vegans. Most of the

veg*n people I know are vegetarians.

 

 

> 2. Are there men on here too

 

Yes, there are - look at some of the user names of people posting.

 

 

> 3. As a vegetarian, do you check every food label for meat additives

> like gelatin?

 

When I first went vegetarian I didn't look at labels too often, until I

started being surprised at what products had chicken fat, lard, beef

broth, etc. in them. I gradually progressed to the point where I read the

label on each item I purchase.

 

Of course, once I went vegan it became even more important to me to know

what was in the food I was eating.

 

 

> 5. Is New York like the " City of Vegetarians? " there seem to be so

> many veggie restaurants there

 

It could be, but I feel that San Francisco is more welcoming to those with

alternative lifestyles such as vegetarianism.

 

 

> 6. Are there any really obvious animal product that I should look out

> for besides gelatin?

 

Well, it all depends on you - what level do you feel comfortable

maintaining? There's all sorts of items, like lard, chicken broth, beef

extract that may not be palatable to you. Then there's the non-obvious

stuff like rennet in cheese, gelatin, etc.

 

You have to make a decision for yourself. There are lots of lists online

which give breakdowns of which ingredients are animal-derived.

 

 

> 7. Do you find being a veggie more expensive then not being one?

 

I do, but I also tend to buy more fresh, in-season produce now and cook a

lot more for myself than I did before, when I was a huge processed food

consumer. My vegetarianism actually grew out of my desire to eat and

prepare healthier foods.

 

 

> 8. Does any celebrate (and if so, how) World Vegetarian Day, which is

> October 1? Or the Great American Meatout on March 20th?

 

Lots of people do - there are events held in San Francisco, including

" Vegetarian Day " which is sponsored by the San Francisco Vegetarian

Society.

 

 

 

> 9. Which is the best veggie magazine out there that people in the US

> can receive? (I don't have money to to all of them to get a

> sampling!)

 

I think Veggie Times is better than Vegetarian Life, although I d

to both of them for a year to get me through the first stages of

vegetarianism - they were a great help.

 

 

> 10. Does anyone actually know someone who practices Jainism? (I

> found it to be a wonderful religion to research)

 

I do - we have several friends of Indian descent who practice Jainism or

were raised knowing of that religion. We attended a wedding where the

couple had family members who were Jains, and not only did I learn what

that meant, but we had really good Indian food!

 

I'm not a religious person, but it did seem like it encompassed many

philosophies which would be good to incorporate into modern life.

 

 

> 11. Plastic or Paper? (sorry, had to add it)

 

Paper, but I bring my own - 5 cent credit for every bag I bring! I usually

just put the groceries into my bookbag if it's a small load, but if not

then I schlep the brown bags with me.

 

We also use the paper bags to hold our paper recycling items, so that's

where they end up when they're getting too old to reliably transport our

groceries.

 

 

> Please don't think that these questions mean I'm undereducated. I do

> what I can, and I'm really excited to learn and listen to advise from

> some " seasoned " veggies. Pun not intended. HA HA HA

 

Not at all! Everyone had to start sometime. Very few of us were raised

vegetarian, most of us had to learn all this stuff on our own, and we keep

learning through forums like this.

 

Welcome!

-Kim

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: 1. Is this group mostly vegans?

I doubt it, but I am.

 

: 2. Are there men on here too

Yes, judging from email address and " signatures " , and one of the

co-founders is a man

 

: 3. As a vegetarian, do you check every food label for meat additives

: like gelatin?

Yes. It's amazing how much animal products are used in so many

things and many are not obvious.

 

: 5. Is New York like the " City of Vegetarians? " there seem to be so

: many veggie restaurants there

I have no idea.

 

: 6. Are there any really obvious animal product that I should look out

: for besides gelatin?

" natural flavors " may or may not be from an animal source,

glycerin may or may not be from an animal source... I think PeTA's site

has a list of foods that have animal ingredients in them. Also, I think

the Vegetarian Resource Group (www.vrg.org) has information on their

site also. Incredibly, if your vegan, it's nearly impossible to be a

completely animal products-free consumer. Discover magazine had an

article about mad cow disease some months back, and the article included

an extensive list of how cow products and by-products were used. Even

our automobile tires have cow by-products in them!

 

: 7. Do you find being a veggie more expensive then not being one?

It's a bit more expensive, especially since I buy organic as

much as possible, but I'd rather put my money in healthier food, the

building blocks and fuel for our bodies, than in medical expenses

because of unhealthier food choices.

 

:

: 8. Does any celebrate (and if so, how) World Vegetarian Day, which is

: October 1? Or the Great American Meatout on March 20th?

I try to mindful of veg'nism everyday in respect for mother

Earth, my fellow creatures, my fellow humans, and myself. And I am in a

" meatout " everyday.

 

: 9. Which is the best veggie magazine out there that people in the US

: can receive? (I don't have money to to all of them to get a

: sampling!)

The Vegetarian Journal, published by the Vegetarian Resource

Group (can find subscription information on their web site -

www.vrg.org). They include articles on vegetarian issues, include

recipes (all vegan), and current events related to vegetarian issues.

They have three dieticians that consult with them (all vegan). It is by

far my favorite magazine.

Vegetarian Times has quit label recipes that are vegan or

offering vegan alternatives, and have even begun including occasional

meat-based ingredients (like oyster sauce). I am very disappointed in

this trend, but they claim it is marketing dictated (based on a survey

they ran). Many of their vegetarian recipes can be veganized fairly

easily. But I think the name of the magazine has become a bogus and

including some meat-based ingredients confuses people about what

vegetarian really is.

 

: 10. Does anyone actually know someone who practices Jainism? (I

: found it to be a wonderful religion to research)

No, but I enjoy learning about belief systems of all kinds.

 

: 11. Plastic or Paper? (sorry, had to add it)

Doesn't really matter a whole lot. Both can be recycled, both

product productions contribute to pollution and problems...

 

: Please don't think that these questions mean I'm undereducated. I do

: what I can, and I'm really excited to learn and listen to advise from

: some " seasoned " veggies. Pun not intended. HA HA HA

Undereducated? LOL There is a lot of confusion about what is

really vegetarian and what is vegan. I have done a lot of studying to

learn as much about them as I can, because they haven't been mainstream

ideas and there are many misconceptions, even among highly educated

people. Asking questions is a great way to begin your education in this

new area of your life. So keep asking those questions.

There are some good resources out there. If you'd like to get

some ideas, let me know.

 

DeniseC

 

One Planet ~ One People

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1. At what age did you become veggie/vegan? 25 became vegan, I'm now 31

 

2. What influenced you in making that decision? many family members

dying of cancer, diabetes, and heart disease plus animal welfare and

rights issues

 

3. Is there any literature or media that had a profound effect on you?

not specifically, but the wealth of information on the general health

benefits of increasing plant based foods and minimizing animal based

foods

 

4. Is there anything you wished you knew before or as you became veggie?

Eg any info that would have helped you out to have known? not really, I

ate a mainly veggie based diet with limited animal products before I

became vegan so the transition was minor for me

 

5. Is there any health aspect of your diet that would appeal to you more

than others? Eg, lose weight, clear skin, decreased risk of diabetes,

heart disease etc. overall better health, especially with my family

background.

 

6. Who do you look up to/ who is your role model? Does not have to be a

vegetarian, can be an actress, singer, athlete etc. I can't really say

I have one specific person I could name, but most are not celebrities

 

7. In what format is information most useful? Eg, leaflets in

magazines, through the post, articles in magazines, on the net etc. I

like public service announcement type ads on television

 

8. Any other comments you feel may help? I don't think I've been that

helpful at all, sorry.

 

 

 

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