Guest guest Posted August 21, 2002 Report Share Posted August 21, 2002 Meghan, > I have some weird questions for you all. I was discussing evolution and > biology with some co-workers this morning. One woman's husband is a > sports medicine doctor I'd like to know if he is aware of any studies that suggest this, or is he just going on what he feels to be the case? > According to this woman, her doctor husband feels that you can be active > and healthy as a vegetarian, but in order to train for marathons or > super intense exercise, the body really needs more protein than can be > obtained through non animal foods. Elite vegan athletes who need more protein can take a protein supplement, just like meat-eating athletes often do. There is some evidence that vegetarian athletes can benefit from creatine supplementation, but this would mostly be for sports like sprinting and power-lifting. Here is an article on vegetarian athletes: http://www.andrews.edu/NUFS/vegathletes.htm > He also said that animal protein > helps the body heal the fastest when there is a muscle injury. I have never come across any study or evidence of this. One person shouldn't be considered much evidence but if it helps any, I broke my collar bone a couple months ago. After 4 weeks I went to see the doctor and he told me it was essentially healed and he didn't need to see me again. > So are any of you very athletic? Have any of you noticed yourself > healing faster or slower being veggie vs. non-veggie? > > The man also feels that human teeth are indicative of an omnivorous > diet, which made me think of how complex humans are. We can be > omnivorous, but we can also choose to eat only veggies based on ethical > or health reasons, something other animals don't do. Exactly. : ) > Also, another guy recalled from his entomology class the professor > saying that if it weren't for the little bug particles on all the food > we eat, including bug eggs naked to the human eye on veggie leaves (like > lettuce) and bug legs in pasta and other weird stuff, that everyone > would really be missing out on important nutrients and amino acids found > in animals, including insects. Bizarre. That *is* a bit bizarre. There are plenty of amino acids and vitamins inside food such that you do not need to rely on any from bug remnants or eggs on the food surfaces. One exception could be vitamin B12 for vegans; but without going into a long explanation, bug remnants are going to be a very minor source of the vitamin and is why vegans need to find other sources. Jack Norris, Registered Dietitian PO Box 4305 Davis, CA 95617-4305 916-375-0014 http://www.jacknorrisrd.com/newsletter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2002 Report Share Posted August 21, 2002 Hi! I have some weird questions for you all. I was discussing evolution and biology with some co-workers this morning. One woman's husband is a sports medicine doctor and sees quite a few high school girls who are vegetarian for the purposes of being thin. They also are trying to be super athletes in school, and the doc thinks this is a bad idea. According to this woman, her doctor husband feels that you can be active and healthy as a vegetarian, but in order to train for marathons or super intense exercise, the body really needs more protein than can be obtained through non animal foods. He also said that animal protein helps the body heal the fastest when there is a muscle injury. So are any of you very athletic? Have any of you noticed yourself healing faster or slower being veggie vs. non-veggie? The man also feels that human teeth are indicative of an omnivorous diet, which made me think of how complex humans are. We can be omnivorous, but we can also choose to eat only veggies based on ethical or health reasons, something other animals don't do. Very interesting to me, as I tend to prefer to think of humans from the perspective that we are indeed pack animals, and I love contemplating how we compare to other animals. Also, another guy recalled from his entomology class the professor saying that if it weren't for the little bug particles on all the food we eat, including bug eggs naked to the human eye on veggie leaves (like lettuce) and bug legs in pasta and other weird stuff, that everyone would really be missing out on important nutrients and amino acids found in animals, including insects. Bizarre. So clearly, these are all ideas contrary to those of vegetarianism and I was just wondering how you all felt about these things? Just found it interesting! Thank you, ~Meghan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2002 Report Share Posted August 21, 2002 I used to train vigorously in a korean martial art from 1980 to 86, 3-4 times a week. I was not hindered by my diet (at that time, ovo-lactarian). From everything I have read, plant protein (first hand) is better than animal sources (second hand). There is no magical ingredient in meat. tony On 8/21/02 2:17 PM, " meghanmail " <meghanmail wrote: > Hi! > > I have some weird questions for you all. I was discussing evolution and > biology with some co-workers this morning. One woman's husband is a > sports medicine doctor and sees quite a few high school girls who are > vegetarian for the purposes of being thin. They also are trying to be > super athletes in school, and the doc thinks this is a bad idea. > According to this woman, her doctor husband feels that you can be active > and healthy as a vegetarian, but in order to train for marathons or > super intense exercise, the body really needs more protein than can be > obtained through non animal foods. He also said that animal protein > helps the body heal the fastest when there is a muscle injury. > > So are any of you very athletic? Have any of you noticed yourself > healing faster or slower being veggie vs. non-veggie? > > The man also feels that human teeth are indicative of an omnivorous > diet, which made me think of how complex humans are. We can be > omnivorous, but we can also choose to eat only veggies based on ethical > or health reasons, something other animals don't do. Very interesting > to me, as I tend to prefer to think of humans from the perspective that > we are indeed pack animals, and I love contemplating how we compare to > other animals. > > Also, another guy recalled from his entomology class the professor > saying that if it weren't for the little bug particles on all the food > we eat, including bug eggs naked to the human eye on veggie leaves (like > lettuce) and bug legs in pasta and other weird stuff, that everyone > would really be missing out on important nutrients and amino acids found > in animals, including insects. Bizarre. > > So clearly, these are all ideas contrary to those of vegetarianism and I > was just wondering how you all felt about these things? Just found it > interesting! > > Thank you, > ~Meghan > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2002 Report Share Posted August 21, 2002 On 8/21/02 2:30 PM, " Tony Martin " <veggiedude wrote: > I used to train vigorously in a korean martial art from 1980 to 86, 3-4 > times a week. I was not hindered by my diet (at that time, ovo-lactarian). Let me just follow that up by saying it was a two hour class, in the high humidity/temperature of Florida weather with no air conditioning! tony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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