Guest guest Posted October 17, 2002 Report Share Posted October 17, 2002 hi everyone have not had a chance to read it yet,but heard there was a pretty negative article in the Chronicle yesterday about World Veg Day- Anyone read it? cheers ~melody Care2 make the world greener! Keep Air Smoke Free - Deadline: Nov 5th http://www.care2.com/go/z/cleanair Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2002 Report Share Posted October 17, 2002 Well, it wasn't exactly positive. http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2002/10/16/DD5\ 428.DTL I didn't go this year, but I can certainly empathize with the author - graphical displays and slogans never worked with me, and I see that they turn a lot of people away who might otherwise be interested in vegetarianism. If you want to see a really creepy scene, look about halfway down this page at the Thai Vegetarian Festival photo: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/gate/archive/2002/10/15/dip.DTL Melody ODonnell wrote: > > hi everyone > have not had a chance to read it yet,but heard there was a pretty negative article in the Chronicle > yesterday about World Veg Day- Anyone read it? > cheers > ~melody> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2002 Report Share Posted October 17, 2002 Is anyone planning on responding to the editor? Calling it an event of " militant vegans " perpetuates the myth and is insulting to all of us who were there. Her article doesn't even mention the fact that Millenium Restaurant, PCRM, Center for Informed Food Choices, and EarthSave were there -- in addition to the displays of animal rights literature, video, buttons, bumper stickers and the like. Ugh! - Kim Flournoy Thursday, October 17, 2002 12:11 PM Re: [sFBAVeg] WVD in the Chronicle? Well, it wasn't exactly positive. http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2002/10/16/DD5\ 428.DTL I didn't go this year, but I can certainly empathize with the author - graphical displays and slogans never worked with me, and I see that they turn a lot of people away who might otherwise be interested in vegetarianism. If you want to see a really creepy scene, look about halfway down this page at the Thai Vegetarian Festival photo: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/gate/archive/2002/10/15/dip.DTL Melody ODonnell wrote: > > hi everyone > have not had a chance to read it yet,but heard there was a pretty negative article in the Chronicle > yesterday about World Veg Day- Anyone read it? > cheers > ~melody> *To share a message with the group: *Got Questions? We got answers! See the SFBAVeg FAQ at http://www.generationv.org/faq.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2002 Report Share Posted October 17, 2002 Dear Kim, Melody, Tammy & other friends ~ Weighing in with my two cents: no, the article isn't exactly positive, but it does make the connection between meat, dairy, and egg consumption and the ill treatment of animals. The PETA displays and the Viva! literature clearly got under the author's skin and possibly turned her off, but her comments about not eating anything with a face and about egg-laying hens being crammed in tiny cages offer the reader a glimpse into factory farming. That brief education is *invaluable.* I would like to see the day when we have towering headliners like John Robbins and John McDougall speak at an event, and that the media actually comes out to cover what the speakers have to say (imagine that!), but my many years of student activism taught me not to hold my breath for *that* to happen. When I worked on the media committee for the incomparably amazing Bay Area Veg Fair, we were able to secure positive media in the way of food editors offering recipes in their columns or other such blurbs. I was, and continue to be, incredibly happy about that positive response. But, it does concern me that in our consumer culture, recipes and discussion of " another way of eating, " are just that. Another recipe to add to the file, next to the Chicken Cordon Bleu and Veal Cutlets. Whatever Mollie Katzen may have to say on the subject, vegetarianism isn't about " trying something a little different on Wednesday night. " It's about not eating animals and it's about acknowledging that just because we *can* debeak baby chicks, cram them into cages stacked several feet high, and leave them in a warehouse with a million other chicks so that we can collect their cholesterol-bomb eggs and send their worn-out bodies to slaughter after we're done with them doesn't make it *right*. I have to say (and really, this is just my two cents, offered peacefully, lovingly & perhaps a little too Polyanna-ishly) I think the Chronicle's (admittedly AWFUL) article might help push the envelope just a little further than the recipes. Know what I mean? Regarding the harsh images, different people will clearly be motivated by different approaches, and I'm all for people using which ever approach seems to work best for them. Having stood for many, many hours on assorted street corners across this fair city of ours, I can attest to the fact that people are drawn to the images of animals in factory farms and in slaughterhouses. They are moved by the images, they respond to the images, they make changes because of the images. Nobody *wants* to look at this level of suffering, but once they have looked, they can never deny its existence. And *that* is a step in the right direction. Best regards, Alka Kim Flournoy [kim] Thursday, October 17, 2002 12:12 PM Re: [sFBAVeg] WVD in the Chronicle? Well, it wasn't exactly positive. http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2002/10/16/DD5\ 428.DTL I didn't go this year, but I can certainly empathize with the author - graphical displays and slogans never worked with me, and I see that they turn a lot of people away who might otherwise be interested in vegetarianism. If you want to see a really creepy scene, look about halfway down this page at the Thai Vegetarian Festival photo: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/gate/archive/2002/10/15/dip.DTL Melody ODonnell wrote: > > hi everyone > have not had a chance to read it yet,but heard there was a pretty negative article in the Chronicle > yesterday about World Veg Day- Anyone read it? > cheers > ~melody> *To share a message with the group: *Got Questions? We got answers! See the SFBAVeg FAQ at http://www.generationv.org/faq.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2002 Report Share Posted October 18, 2002 On Thursday, October 17, 2002, at 02:40 PM, Chandna, Alka wrote: > but her > comments about not eating anything with a face and about egg-laying > hens being crammed in tiny cages offer the reader a glimpse into > factory farming. That brief education is *invaluable.* > My impression of the author, is that she does not eat meat, but still eats fish. She probably went in thinking she was 'vegetarian' only to find it meant something else. -- tony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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