Time Urgency: Dean Ornish on Donahue TONIGHT!

[Guest guest]

it is on CH 25 in SF

 

ALSO AFTER THE SHOW you can type in your response to

the show. Just go to the web site below.

 

please record this program for me, I won't be home.

THIS IS A BIG BIG interview. All your friends will

flock to you with questions on veggie diet after

tonight. sunny

 

 

DR. DEAN ORNISH, vegetarian cardiologist/author,

will be on the DONAHUE show Wed night, Nov. 13.

The topic is " What Diets Work? " I believe Dean will

address the dangers of high protein diets as well as

the

benefits of a plant-based diet.

 

To find the time & channel for MSNBC in your area, go

to:

http://www.msnbc.com/news/DONAHUE_Front.asp

 

In Los Angeles, it's on at 8-9pm & repeated from

Midnight to 1am.

 

Dr. Ornish’s Preventive Medicine Research Institute:

http://www.pmri.org

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

I watched Donohue rip into Ingrid Newkirk several years back in a most

disgusting and cruel way (and haven't watched the idiot since). I sure

hope Dr. Ornish fares better; Donohue's basic position on vegetarianism, or

possibly just animal rights, seems to be withering condescension.

 

Bruce

 

 

> DR. DEAN ORNISH, vegetarian cardiologist/author,

> will be on the DONAHUE show Wed night, Nov. 13.

> The topic is " What Diets Work? " I believe Dean will

> address the dangers of high protein diets as well as

> the benefits of a plant-based diet.

[Guest guest]

I think I found the show in the TV Guide and it's titled " Donahue Town

Hall: Dangerous Diets " .

 

For those of you outside SF and with DirecTV I found it on Channel

356/MSNBC at 8pm and midnight tonite.

 

Based on the title I've got a bad feeling about the show.

 

Chris

 

 

Bruce Cannon [brucecannon]

Wednesday, November 13, 2002 6:18 PM

 

RE: [sFBAVeg] Time Urgency: Dean Ornish on Donahue TONIGHT!

 

 

I watched Donohue rip into Ingrid Newkirk several years back in a most

disgusting and cruel way (and haven't watched the idiot since). I sure

hope Dr. Ornish fares better; Donohue's basic position on vegetarianism,

or possibly just animal rights, seems to be withering condescension.

 

Bruce

 

 

> DR. DEAN ORNISH, vegetarian cardiologist/author,

> will be on the DONAHUE show Wed night, Nov. 13.

> The topic is " What Diets Work? " I believe Dean will

> address the dangers of high protein diets as well as

> the benefits of a plant-based diet.

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

does anyone know how the show went?

-

Chris James

Wednesday, November 13, 2002 8:50 PM

RE: [sFBAVeg] Time Urgency: Dean Ornish on Donahue TONIGHT!

 

 

I think I found the show in the TV Guide and it's titled " Donahue Town

Hall: Dangerous Diets " .

 

For those of you outside SF and with DirecTV I found it on Channel

356/MSNBC at 8pm and midnight tonite.

 

Based on the title I've got a bad feeling about the show.

 

Chris

 

Bruce Cannon [brucecannon]

Wednesday, November 13, 2002 6:18 PM

RE: [sFBAVeg] Time Urgency: Dean Ornish on Donahue TONIGHT!

 

 

I watched Donohue rip into Ingrid Newkirk several years back in a most

disgusting and cruel way (and haven't watched the idiot since). I sure

hope Dr. Ornish fares better; Donohue's basic position on vegetarianism,

or possibly just animal rights, seems to be withering condescension.

 

Bruce

 

 

> DR. DEAN ORNISH, vegetarian cardiologist/author,

> will be on the DONAHUE show Wed night, Nov. 13.

> The topic is " What Diets Work? " I believe Dean will

> address the dangers of high protein diets as well as

> the benefits of a plant-based diet.

 

 

 

*Got Questions? We got answers! See the SFBAVeg FAQ at

http://www.generationv.org/faq.htm

 

*SFBAVeg Charter: http://www.generationv.org/charter.htm

 

 

[Guest guest]

I taped the show and watched it this morning. It was classic talk show

sensationalism, but I was glad to see a fairly well-rounded approach.

Some highlights:

 

- Dean Ornish had a pretty fair voice on the show. He was up against a

rep from the Atkins Diet. They later brought in a psychologist whose

point was that Americans need to figure out the reasons we eat so much

(before we figure out *how* to eat).

 

- At one point Ornish said that he allows chicken and fish for people

whose goals don't include reversing heart disease. Too bad.

 

- The first audience person interviewed was on the Atkins Diet. She was

delighted at the results and Donahue seemed thrilled that she had lost

70 pounds. Ugh. (She was still very overweight, BTW.)

 

- The second person interviewed was VEGAN! I almost fell out of my seat.

(He was slim and fit, BTW.) Donahue said, " but don't you get tired of

eating all those nuts? " Ugh.

 

- One mother was interviewed whose daughter died while on the Atkins

Diet. This is about as compelling as articles about people dying while

on a vegan diet - it probably wasn't the Atkins Diet that killed her,

but some combination of things, including the fact that she was

consuming large amounts of meat/dairy/eggs and not a lot of whole foods.

 

- Statistics cited included: " US food produced: 3800 calories per person

per day, " " People in the US eat an average of 3700 calories a day. " Does

that mean we only leave an average of 100 calories on our plate? Those

stats don't match up for me.

 

- Donahue concluded with something like " well, you're probably left just

as confused about diets as you were before. " As if a one-hour

sensationalized debate is going to clear everyone up about how to clean

up our screwed-up lifestyles.

 

Best wishes,

 

~Caity

 

" Colleen A. Patrick " wrote:

 

> does anyone know how the show went?

> -

> Chris James

>

> Wednesday, November 13, 2002 8:50 PM

> RE: [sFBAVeg] Time Urgency: Dean Ornish on Donahue TONIGHT!

>

>

>

> I think I found the show in the TV Guide and it's titled " Donahue

> Town

> Hall: Dangerous Diets " .

>

> For those of you outside SF and with DirecTV I found it on Channel

> 356/MSNBC at 8pm and midnight tonite.

>

> Based on the title I've got a bad feeling about the show.

>

> Chris

>

>

> Bruce Cannon [brucecannon]

> Wednesday, November 13, 2002 6:18 PM

>

> RE: [sFBAVeg] Time Urgency: Dean Ornish on Donahue TONIGHT!

>

>

>

> I watched Donohue rip into Ingrid Newkirk several years back in a

> most

> disgusting and cruel way (and haven't watched the idiot since). I

> sure

> hope Dr. Ornish fares better; Donohue's basic position on

> vegetarianism,

> or possibly just animal rights, seems to be withering condescension.

>

> Bruce

>

>

> > DR. DEAN ORNISH, vegetarian cardiologist/author,

> > will be on the DONAHUE show Wed night, Nov. 13.

> > The topic is " What Diets Work? " I believe Dean will

> > address the dangers of high protein diets as well as

> > the benefits of a plant-based diet.

>

>

>

> *Got Questions? We got answers! See the SFBAVeg FAQ at

> http://www.generationv.org/faq.htm

>

> *SFBAVeg Charter: http://www.generationv.org/charter.htm

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I taped the show and watched it this morning. It was classic talk

show sensationalism, but I was glad to see a fairly well-rounded

approach. Some highlights:

 

- Dean Ornish had a pretty fair voice on the show. He was up against

a rep from the Atkins Diet. They later brought in a psychologist

whose point was that Americans need to figure out the reasons we eat

so much (before we figure out *how* to eat).

 

- At one point Ornish said that he allows chicken and fish for people

whose goals don't include reversing heart disease. Too bad.

 

- The first audience person interviewed was on the Atkins Diet. She

was delighted at the results and Donahue seemed thrilled that she had

lost 70 pounds. Ugh. (She was still very overweight, BTW.)

 

- The second person interviewed was VEGAN! I almost fell out of my

seat. (He was slim and fit, BTW.) Donahue said, " but don't you get

tired of eating all those nuts? " Ugh.

 

- One mother was interviewed whose daughter died while on the Atkins

Diet. This is about as compelling as articles about people dying

while on a vegan diet - it probably wasn't the Atkins Diet

that killed her, but some combination of things, including the fact

that she was consuming large amounts of meat/dairy/eggs and not a lot

of whole foods.

 

- Statistics cited included: " US food produced: 3800 calories per

person per day, " " People in the US eat an average of 3700 calories a

day. " Does that mean we only leave an average of 100 calories on

our plate? Those stats don't match up for me.

 

- Donahue concluded with something like " well, you're probably left

just as confused about diets as you were before. " As if a one-hour

sensationalized debate is going to clear everyone up about how to

clean up our screwed-up lifestyles.

 

Best wishes,

 

~Caity

 

SFBAVeg, " Colleen A. Patrick " <colleen@j...> wrote:

> does anyone know how the show went?

> -

> Chris James

>

> Wednesday, November 13, 2002 8:50 PM

> RE: [sFBAVeg] Time Urgency: Dean Ornish on Donahue

TONIGHT!

>

>

> I think I found the show in the TV Guide and it's titled " Donahue

Town

> Hall: Dangerous Diets " .

>

> For those of you outside SF and with DirecTV I found it on Channel

> 356/MSNBC at 8pm and midnight tonite.

>

> Based on the title I've got a bad feeling about the show.

>

> Chris

>

>

> Bruce Cannon [brucecannon@a...]

> Wednesday, November 13, 2002 6:18 PM

>

> RE: [sFBAVeg] Time Urgency: Dean Ornish on Donahue

TONIGHT!

>

>

> I watched Donohue rip into Ingrid Newkirk several years back in a

most

> disgusting and cruel way (and haven't watched the idiot since).

I sure

> hope Dr. Ornish fares better; Donohue's basic position on

vegetarianism,

> or possibly just animal rights, seems to be withering

condescension.

>

> Bruce

>

>

> > DR. DEAN ORNISH, vegetarian cardiologist/author,

> > will be on the DONAHUE show Wed night, Nov. 13.

> > The topic is " What Diets Work? " I believe Dean will

> > address the dangers of high protein diets as well as

> > the benefits of a plant-based diet.

>

>

>

> *Got Questions? We got answers! See the SFBAVeg FAQ at

> http://www.generationv.org/faq.htm

>

> *SFBAVeg Charter: http://www.generationv.org/charter.htm

>

>

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