Guest guest Posted November 19, 2002 Report Share Posted November 19, 2002 Last week, an acquaintance said to me that she HAD TO EAT MEAT BECAUSE OF HER BODY TYPE. She is of an athletic build: near six feet tall and quite muscular. She directed this comment specifically at me, the only vegan participating in a group conversation, as though it were an undisputed fact, and that I, as a well-read vegan, would know this was unquestionably true. She made this clear by following this statement by saying derisively I couldn't expect her to survive on tofu! Under the circumstances, it was not possible for me to reply at the time, and I have not seen her since. I am going to see her again on Wednesday evening, and want to be able to dispute her claim, because here is someone who claims to know what happens in slaughterhouses, and yet I feel that her underlying intention was to make herself feel better about eating meat. That is, if I, an educated and dedicated vegan, did not disagree with her (and remember, the situation prevented me from doing so), then I app arently ACCEPT that it is only possible for people who are born skinny to choose a vegan diet. Therefore, if I approve of her meat eating and see it as her only valid option, then she has no reason to confront her feelings of guilt about contributing to animal suffering and death. (It is also interesting to note that she is African American, and she raised this issue specifically because we were having a conversation about race and prejudice, and I believe she recognizes the connection between animal enslavement and racial oppression.) Anyway, I have been searching the Internet and can't find anything that convincingly shows that people of any body type can be healthy (or healthier) as vegans. The best I've come across so far is a listing of vegetarian and vegan athletes (including football players, bodybuilders, and wrestlers, which is somewhat helpful), a bunch of articles on protein (which don't specifically adress body type), and a passing mention that large land mammals like elephants, horses, and gorillas are all naturally vegans. Admittedly, the majority of vegans I've known aren't exactly large of stature, but I know there are exceptions, so I tend to think that it must be possible for anyone to live without meat, regardless of their build. Please help me if you have any knowledge on this subject. Especially useful would be published resources. Thanks, Mat. ________ Outgrown your current e-mail service? Get 25MB Storage, POP3 Access, Advanced Spam protection with LYCOS MAIL PLUS. http://login.mail.lycos.com/brandPage.shtml?pageId=plus & ref=lmtplus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 19, 2002 Report Share Posted November 19, 2002 Matthew, There is no published research that large-framed people cannot be vegan, but it is pretty hard to show someone " a lack of evidence, " if you know what I mean. There are two ways that I know of to create proof that large-framed people can or cannot be vegan. One would be to get a large number of large-framed people, have them try a vegan diet for a period of time, and see how they fair. This would probably be the best way. Another way would be to do a survey/study of a large group of vegans and see if many of them are large-framed, or if the percentage of large-framed vegans was similar to the percentage of large-framed people in the normal population. I don't think the percentage of people who are large-framed in the US population has even been quantified, though I'm not certain about this. Neither of these ways of studying large-framed vegans have been pursued. Unfortunately, the best I would be able to suggest is to say is that there have been a lot of studies looking at vegans and a vegan diet and no researchers have observed that large-framed people have a more difficult time being vegan, though the question has not been studied directly. I have never even heard of such a thing until now, so the idea that large-framed people can't be vegan is certainly not common knowledge in nutritional research. Jack Norris, RD, Vegan Outreach 916/375-0014 jacknorris http://veganoutreach.org - " matthew thomas " <ma> <SFBAVeg > Monday, November 18, 2002 10:54 PM [sFBAVeg] the vegan body type > Last week, an acquaintance said to me that she HAD TO EAT MEAT BECAUSE OF HER BODY TYPE. She is of an athletic build: near six feet tall and quite muscular. She directed this comment specifically at me, the only vegan participating in a group conversation, as though it were an undisputed fact, and that I, as a well-read vegan, would know this was unquestionably true. She made this clear by following this statement by saying derisively I couldn't expect her to survive on tofu! Under the circumstances, it was not possible for me to reply at the time, and I have not seen her since. I am going to see her again on Wednesday evening, and want to be able to dispute her claim, because here is someone who claims to know what happens in slaughterhouses, and yet I feel that her underlying intention was to make herself feel better about eating meat. That is, if I, an educated and dedicated vegan, did not disagree with her (and remember, the situation prevented me from doing so), then I ! > app > arently ACCEPT that it is only possible for people who are born skinny to choose a vegan diet. Therefore, if I approve of her meat eating and see it as her only valid option, then she has no reason to confront her feelings of guilt about contributing to animal suffering and death. (It is also interesting to note that she is African American, and she raised this issue specifically because we were having a conversation about race and prejudice, and I believe she recognizes the connection between animal enslavement and racial oppression.) > > Anyway, I have been searching the Internet and can't find anything that convincingly shows that people of any body type can be healthy (or healthier) as vegans. The best I've come across so far is a listing of vegetarian and vegan athletes (including football players, bodybuilders, and wrestlers, which is somewhat helpful), a bunch of articles on protein (which don't specifically adress body type), and a passing mention that large land mammals like elephants, horses, and gorillas are all naturally vegans. Admittedly, the majority of vegans I've known aren't exactly large of stature, but I know there are exceptions, so I tend to think that it must be possible for anyone to live without meat, regardless of their build. > > Please help me if you have any knowledge on this subject. Especially useful would be published resources. > > Thanks, > > Mat. > > > ________ > Outgrown your current e-mail service? Get 25MB Storage, POP3 Access, > Advanced Spam protection with LYCOS MAIL PLUS. > http://login.mail.lycos.com/brandPage.shtml?pageId=plus & ref=lmtplus > > *Got Questions? We got answers! See the SFBAVeg FAQ at http://www.generationv.org/faq.htm > > *SFBAVeg Charter: http://www.generationv.org/charter.htm > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 19, 2002 Report Share Posted November 19, 2002 Well, personally I find the list of successful vegan athletes most persuasive. What more could another athlete want? When I was considering veganism many years ago (early 80's), what I found unequivocal was Andreas Cahling. I read an interview with that mega-fit hunk in veg times and he talked about eating fifteen bananas every morning before his sunrise beach run, and I thought " If that guy can live on bananas, then someone like myself, with a much more sedentary lifestyle and a much broader diet, will likely do just fine. " And I was right. BTW, I'm pretty athletic. But also slight. So who knows. Bruce > Anyway, I have been searching the Internet and can't find > anything that convincingly shows that people of any body type > can be healthy (or healthier) as vegans. The best I've come > across so far is a listing of vegetarian and vegan athletes > (including football players, bodybuilders, and wrestlers, which > is somewhat helpful), a bunch of articles on protein (which Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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