Guest guest Posted January 5, 2003 Report Share Posted January 5, 2003 In a message dated 1/5/2003 1:05:25 PM Pacific Standard Time, chupacabratomame writes: > I recently added on to your group under the interest of > becoming VEGETARIAN. I have tried several times in the past > only to " relapse " either from exasperation of some of the > self-righteous attitudes I saw towards non-vegatarians and/or > difficulty keeping up with the diet due to motivational/availability > reasons. Hi : ) I think you need to ask yourself why it is you want to be a vegetarian. There are many reasons people become vegetarians, ranging from concern about the suffering of animals to health concerns to weight concerns to ecological concerns to spiritual convictions. Generally speaking, I think that the people who remain vegetarians do so because they don't want to contribute to the suffering of animals (especially animals on factory farms), or because they have compelling health reasons. For some good information about the way that being a vegetarian helps other people, animals, the earth, and your health, try www.vivavegie.org/vv101/ (this is " 101 reasons why I'm a vegetarian " ) or www.goveg.com (this is a people for the ethical treatment of animals website). If you put " vegetarian " into a search engine such as google.com, you will find tons of other sites as well. Good luck! Stephanie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2003 Report Share Posted January 5, 2003 Hello, I recently added on to your group under the interest of becoming VEGETARIAN. I have tried several times in the past only to " relapse " either from exasperation of some of the self-righteous attitudes I saw towards non-vegatarians and/or difficulty keeping up with the diet due to motivational/availability reasons. If any of you can give me advice/support on countering this, it would be greatly appricieated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2003 Report Share Posted January 5, 2003 Well, it's a hard thing to do: to learn how to eat well, to find things to eat, to stick with it in a largely non-vegetarian world, to put up with constant flak from non-vegetarians (which is also a likely reason for the attitude you got from vegetarians). At any rate, it's a lifelong project. But I will say that there are rewards: you feel good about yourself, you get healthy, you stay healthy more easily, and best of all the food is really good! I have enjoyed food, shopping, cooking, eating, dining out etc. so much more as a vegetarian! I think you really need to look beyond the attitude, both of/from vegetarians and non-vegetarians. There is a huge amount of it on both sides and you can't let it interfere with your personal goals else you'll be quitting constantly. Others are far more capable than I of offering specifics, just wanted to send a quick note of commiseration. Bruce > I recently added on to your group under the interest of > becoming VEGETARIAN. I have tried several times in the past > only to " relapse " either from exasperation of some of the > self-righteous attitudes I saw towards non-vegatarians and/or > difficulty keeping up with the diet due to motivational/availability > reasons. > > If any of you can give me advice/support on countering this, it > would be greatly appricieated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2003 Report Share Posted January 6, 2003 > > I recently added on to your group under the interest of > becoming VEGETARIAN. > > If any of you can give me advice/support on countering this, it > would be greatly appricieated. > Hi there, My suggestion for all folks on the path to being vegetarian or vegan would be to come to one of the Vegan Food Parties (VFP) and try the food! A big part of being veggie is the food, and trying new dishes is the best part of all. VFPs are a *great* way to do that and meet some friendly people who are also veggie. Having friends who are veggie who can share hints or help is always useful, and feel free to ask more questions to the list. The very next VFP is *this* Saturday in San Mateo. Check here for details: http://www.generationv.org/events.htm If you're not sure what to bring, I recommend checking out some of the recipes that the Compassionate Cooks have used in their previous cooking classes. Their recipes are archived here: http://www.generationv.org/compassionatecooks.htm (I'm not affiliated with the Compassionate Cooks cooking classes, but I have attended one and enjoyed it, so that may be something you're interested in). A good book (from what others have said) is " Living Among Meat Eaters " by Carol Adams. I think the other half to staying veggie (besides finding good food) is maintaining your motivation for becoming veggie. If it is for health reasons, learn more about the why's of that; if it's for ethical reasons, read up on why you want to be veggie.... And having friends to assist along the way is a big bonus. Maybe that's where connecting with others who have already made the transition, or who are at the same stage as you, would be good. If there are others who had a New Year's resolution or goal for 2003 to become veg/vegan, and you think it would be helpful to meet periodically or have special online chats geared towards that, that's something we could do. With our list on , we do have a " chat " feature available. Or just post to this mailing list or use the online forum at http://www.generationv.org/forum/index.php Cheers, Tammy Join the vegan r/evolution! http://www.generationV.org/ * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * FREE vegan info kit: http://www.veganoutreach.org/starterpack/free-vsp.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2003 Report Share Posted January 6, 2003 hi, if you are finding it really difficult - you can try tapering off; for instance, you can try first by not eating red meat, then gradually stop eating poultry, and then dairy, etc. i think by becoming more conscientious of having balanced meals that include healthy portions of whole foods, non-animal protein and calcium - animals foods cravings can become less. it will become easier as your body begins to let go of craving nutrient sources from animal products. i also think it is helpful to go to great veg*n restaurants that leave you feeling full and satisfied! hina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2003 Report Share Posted January 6, 2003 I would suggest checking out these sites / vidoes: http://www.veganoutreach.org/whyvegan/animals.html http://www.vivausa.org/Campaigns/pigs/visualmedia.htm http://www.goveg.com/r-mym.html Jack - <chupacabratomame <SFBAVeg > Sunday, January 05, 2003 10:45 AM [sFBAVeg] A little help please > Hello, > > I recently added on to your group under the interest of > becoming VEGETARIAN. I have tried several times in the past > only to " relapse " either from exasperation of some of the > self-righteous attitudes I saw towards non-vegatarians and/or > difficulty keeping up with the diet due to motivational/availability > reasons. > > If any of you can give me advice/support on countering this, it > would be greatly appricieated. > > > > *Got Questions? We got answers! See the SFBAVeg FAQ at http://www.generationv.org/faq.htm > > *SFBAVeg Charter: http://www.generationv.org/charter.htm > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2003 Report Share Posted January 6, 2003 If it's that you miss certain foods (I still miss the flavor, texture and melt-ability of dairy cheese), you might be pleasantly surprised with some of the vegan alternatives. Check out a natural foods store or the natural foods section of a good, large supermarket. Also, you'd be amazed at how many vegan cookbooks and vegetarian cookbooks there are out there. I think the last time I counted, I had 20 vegan cookbooks, plus some vegetarian cookbooks. I belong to a great vegan recipe sharing list that tends to be pretty prolific. I also have two books on vegan nutrition that I've read and keep for reference to be sure I'm meeting my nutritional needs without animal products. The VegNews paper is great, full of information to reinforce your decision to go veg*n, plus they have a very nice recipe section and ads for veg*n foods, clothes and other supplies. The Vegetarian Resource Group puts out the Vegetarian Journal that has lots of great recipes, one set usually focusing on an ethnic cuisine and another on a particular food. And there are lots and lots of internet sites for resources, food and recipes, shopping, and issues related to veg*nism. If you have specific concerns or needs or whatever, let us know and I'm sure we can make some specific and helpful suggestions. Good luck! ~ DeniseC You must be the change you wish to see in the world. ~ Mahatma Gandhi : :chupacabratomame <chupacabratomame :[chupacabratomame] :Sunday, January 05, 2003 10:46 AM :SFBAVeg :[sFBAVeg] A little help please : :Hello, : : I recently added on to your group under the interest of :becoming VEGETARIAN. I have tried several times in the past :only to " relapse " either from exasperation of some of the :self-righteous attitudes I saw towards non-vegatarians and/or :difficulty keeping up with the diet due to motivational/availability :reasons. : :If any of you can give me advice/support on countering this, it :would be greatly appricieated. : : : :*Got Questions? We got answers! See the SFBAVeg FAQ at :http://www.generationv.org/faq.htm : :*SFBAVeg Charter: http://www.generationv.org/charter.htm : : : Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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