Juicer

[Guest guest]

IMO champions are the best. Green Power is quite fragile compared to the

champion and break easily. <br><br>I believe you can get purchase a gadget for

the power conversion.

[Guest guest]

I agree. Champions are a better choice. It just

keeps working and getting and replacing parts for it is

easy should you ever need them.<br><br>My

brother-in-law had the more expensive Green Power. It does make

a better juice but it broke several times within a

month of purchase. He replaced it with the Champion and

is much happier with it.<br><br>-OrionsDad

[Guest guest]

Hi,

 

I am ready to buy my new Juicer. I am trying out a

" raw " lifestyle and would really like to get the

absolute best and most featured Juicer out there. I

would like to get the most out of it.

 

I know there are a lot of Juicers out there.

 

Can anyone recommend (based on experience) a Juicer

that can:

 

1> Fruit & Vegs

2> Butters (from nuts) - Have you tried it?

3> Wheat Grass and other leafy vegs

4> other uses

 

Many thanks

Yaron

 

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All the best...

Yaron Oren-Pines

 

1604 Church St #2

San Francisco, CA 94131

+1 (408) 832 0400 (cell)

[Guest guest]

Hi Yaron,

 

I have been a raw foodist (not 100%) for about 5 years. The best juicer to

do all that would be the Green Star. When I bought mine, it was called the

Green Life. It was about $100 cheaper than their higher end version, the

Green Power, but did all the same things. It juices greens, wheatgrass,

homogonizes to make nut pates, etc. I understand that the Green Power has

since been re-engineered, so you might check to see if it does anything

better than the Green Star these days.

 

A good place to shop is www.discountjuicers.com. This site can also be

accessed via www.rawfoods.com and going to the marketplace section. It has

customer write-ups on the different juicers in the same way they do at

Amazon.com.

 

Another thing about this juicer is that because it has the twin gear

mechanism, it presses out the juice slowly and the juice stays " alive "

longer.

 

I would also recommend a great beginning recipe book: the one by Chad Sarno

available at www.rawchef.org. And if you are in the Bay Area, Elaina Love,

who is one of the best raw food chefs around (along with Chad) is having a

series of classes starting in March. She hasn't done that in a long time

here in the Bay Area. You can get the schedule at her website at

www.purejoylivingfoods.com.

 

I would also suggest Dr. Gabriel Cousens' Rainbow Green Diet, a book coming

out this spring. He does a lot of research at his Tree of Life rejuvenation

center on how to optimze the diet so that 100% of the population can be 100%

raw. (www.treeoflife.nu)

 

Best regards,

 

 

Susan

 

 

Yaron Oren-Pines [yopines]

Wednesday, February 26, 2003 8:42 PM

 

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Hi,

 

I am ready to buy my new Juicer. I am trying out a

" raw " lifestyle and would really like to get the

absolute best and most featured Juicer out there. I

would like to get the most out of it.

 

I know there are a lot of Juicers out there.

 

Can anyone recommend (based on experience) a Juicer

that can:

 

1> Fruit & Vegs

2> Butters (from nuts) - Have you tried it?

3> Wheat Grass and other leafy vegs

4> other uses

 

Many thanks

Yaron

 

=====

_________

All the best...

Yaron Oren-Pines

 

1604 Church St #2

San Francisco, CA 94131

+1 (408) 832 0400 (cell)

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Oren-

 

The Green Life/Green Power is a hassle to use and a nightmare to clean. Very

slow juicing,effortfull to push stuff in,rumbling vibrations travelled to the

other end of the apartment and disturbed someone there,more froth than

juice,have to stop repeatedly to empty the tiny juice pitcher,can't use a bigger

one cause it won't fit under the machine,large greens jam up in the chute & can

jam the gears,lots of teeny spaces that have to be scrubbed out with special

brushes,juice & pulp get into spaces in the motor base itself but you can't put

the base in water to clean it,yeesh! I sent the damn thing back,don't get one

unless they let you return it.

 

I got a Juiceman Elite(now the Pro). Fast,easy,very efficient(see independent

consumer lab ratings in Michael Murray's Book of Juicing)easy to clean too;it's

loud though.

 

Frankly,though,any juicer is more trouble than using a good blender. I use my

Champ blender much more frequently than the juicer; super-fast,way easy to

clean.You can make carrot soup in it,instead of carrot juice.

 

Even more frequently-used than that: Jupiter grain-crusher,used to make fresh

muesli,yum! Forget the nut-butters & all the high-fat stuff,carbs give you more

energy.

 

I'll be talking about " Raw Grains- Ancient Health Food " at the Marin potluck in

April. -Jordan.

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Hi Jordan,

 

There are definately trade-offs to any product! How does the juiceman do

for homogenizing? Or for greens and wheatgrass?

 

Others are definately faster, but the faster something is juiced, the more

it oxidizes.

 

While it is true that the Green Power/Star/Life requires more effort to push

carrots and beets down, it pulls greens in effortlessly. For my

preferences, since greens are more alkalizing than carrots and beets, I

chose to move from a fast juicer that was a wiz with hard vegetables to the

Green Life.

 

Plus, the quality of the juice from a twin gear machine is better and the

juice stays alive longer. When I first got my green life, I could feel more

power in the juices I was making from the first day.

 

Another benefit to the twin gear machines is that they are more efficient in

extracting juice, making the cost of juicing cheaper -- except in the case

where you make carrot soup, where that would definately be more economical

than carrot juice.

 

I did try blending kale and collards in the vitamix, but I ended up throwing

it out because I had a hard time stomaching the taste or making it taste

good. It was better in my mind to juice it. Although if it works for you,

more power to you! Paul Nissan always talks about drinking " blended

salads. " I am just not there yet!

 

So if you want Speed, perhaps the vitamix blender or juiceman would be good.

If you want better quality juice, twin gear machines will be better.

 

Best regards,

 

Susan

 

 

 

 

 

Jordan Rothstein [restmind]

Thursday, February 27, 2003 6:10 PM

yopines;

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Oren-

 

The Green Life/Green Power is a hassle to use and a nightmare to clean. Very

slow juicing,effortfull to push stuff in,rumbling vibrations travelled to

the other end of the apartment and disturbed someone there,more froth than

juice,have to stop repeatedly to empty the tiny juice pitcher,can't use a

bigger one cause it won't fit under the machine,large greens jam up in the

chute & can jam the gears,lots of teeny spaces that have to be scrubbed out

with special brushes,juice & pulp get into spaces in the motor base itself

but you can't put the base in water to clean it,yeesh! I sent the damn thing

back,don't get one unless they let you return it.

 

I got a Juiceman Elite(now the Pro). Fast,easy,very efficient(see

independent consumer lab ratings in Michael Murray's Book of Juicing)easy

to clean too;it's loud though.

 

Frankly,though,any juicer is more trouble than using a good blender. I use

my Champ blender much more frequently than the juicer; super-fast,way easy

to clean.You can make carrot soup in it,instead of carrot juice.

 

Even more frequently-used than that: Jupiter grain-crusher,used to make

fresh muesli,yum! Forget the nut-butters & all the high-fat stuff,carbs give

you more energy.

 

I'll be talking about " Raw Grains- Ancient Health Food " at the Marin potluck

in April. -Jordan.

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Hi Yaron,

 

First of all, give yourself a round of applause for buying a juicer.

I've been juicing since '97, and it's helped my energy level,

digestion, skin tone, appetite, and on and on.

 

Before I started juicing, my main concern was that juicing would be

too troublesome and time-consuming for me to do regularly, so the

main thing I looked for in a juicer was ease of use/ease of

cleaning.

 

I bought a Champion juicer, which I still use today. I agree with

Susan that the twin gear juicers extract more juice, and slower speed

is better, but I also know I simply wouldn't take the time to either

a) clean the machine properly, or b) even bother using it at all if

it takes too much time (which I realize is a very subjective thing).

So I opted for the simpler Champion. If I had more time or patience,

though, I'd go for the twin gear ... but I don't ...

 

The beauty of the Champion is that it assembles/disassembles in

seconds, takes literally about a minute to clean, and you can replace

all the parts for about $10. They're made in a factory in Lodi, CA.

I've used mine pretty hard for over six years -- green leafy juices

(chard, kale, dandelion greens, plus carrots and ginger, etc.) two to

three times a day -- and it's still going strong. You can get them

online for under $200. I understand they have a new model with an

even more heavy duty motor and stainless steel parts that's even

better.

 

Good luck,

 

Chris