Guest guest Posted April 9, 2003 Report Share Posted April 9, 2003 Um another Jim Jones cult! LOL Raphael Spindell <rspindell wrote:Raw and Living-Foods Vegan Eco-Village Forming! I thought this might be of interest to some of you who may feel as I do, that living in today's society and attempting to be an ethical and/or health motivated vegan is difficult to impossible and have dreamed of having a place to call your own. Waking up in the mornings, it's getting harder to look in the mirror and feel that I am living within my value systems, to that end, I'm getting together people in order to start a new Eco-Village in beautiful tropical Belize (Central America) called " Adahy Wakiza " (formed from the Cherokee words for " Lives in the Woods " and " Determined Warrior " ). Diets will be primarily raw, whole, vegan-organic (no animal inputs!), wild-crafted and wild-harvested vegetarian (vegan) foods. The village will be completely sustainable and self-sufficient. Several non-profit oriented programs will be administered from Adahy Wakiza, including a Wildlife Sanctuary/Nature Preserve for endangered rainforest flora and fauna, sustainability training center, and raw vegan education and outreach services. Adahy Wakiza is a unique and exciting project. Adahy Wakiza will be a primitive tribal eco-village/intentional community, training center, activist center, healing retreat, wildlife sanctuary/nature reserve and native permaculture forest farm. We will be based upon a hybrid Conservation and Community Land Trust model. Of the 166 acres of land we are currently interested in, there are 25 acres agrarian/semi-agrarian use, and the other land will be preserved as a Wildlife sanctuary and Nature Reserve. We plan to expand on our land in the future in order to widen the area of the Wildlife Sanctuary and Nature Reserve. Become indigenous with the land, not just in spirit, but in practice. Don't just talk about it, live it! ESCAPE NOW! Choose your jungle: Concrete, or Wood! If you are interested you can get more information on the project by: Checking out our website: http://www.childrenofthemillennium.org/adahywakiza Joining in on our planning discussions at our eGroup: on the web: EcoVillage-Belize/ through email: -EcoVillage-Belize E-mailing us directly: adahywakiza Hope to see you in Belize! Raphael Spindell Adahy Wakiza Eco-Village Project Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2003 Report Share Posted April 9, 2003 Raw and Living-Foods Vegan Eco-Village Forming! I thought this might be of interest to some of you who may feel as I do, that living in today's society and attempting to be an ethical and/or health motivated vegan is difficult to impossible and have dreamed of having a place to call your own. Waking up in the mornings, it's getting harder to look in the mirror and feel that I am living within my value systems, to that end, I'm getting together people in order to start a new Eco-Village in beautiful tropical Belize (Central America) called " Adahy Wakiza " (formed from the Cherokee words for " Lives in the Woods " and " Determined Warrior " ). Diets will be primarily raw, whole, vegan-organic (no animal inputs!), wild-crafted and wild-harvested vegetarian (vegan) foods. The village will be completely sustainable and self-sufficient. Several non-profit oriented programs will be administered from Adahy Wakiza, including a Wildlife Sanctuary/Nature Preserve for endangered rainforest flora and fauna, sustainability training center, and raw vegan education and outreach services. Adahy Wakiza is a unique and exciting project. Adahy Wakiza will be a primitive tribal eco-village/intentional community, training center, activist center, healing retreat, wildlife sanctuary/nature reserve and native permaculture forest farm. We will be based upon a hybrid Conservation and Community Land Trust model. Of the 166 acres of land we are currently interested in, there are 25 acres agrarian/semi-agrarian use, and the other land will be preserved as a Wildlife sanctuary and Nature Reserve. We plan to expand on our land in the future in order to widen the area of the Wildlife Sanctuary and Nature Reserve. Become indigenous with the land, not just in spirit, but in practice. Don't just talk about it, live it! ESCAPE NOW! Choose your jungle: Concrete, or Wood! If you are interested you can get more information on the project by: Checking out our website: http://www.childrenofthemillennium.org/adahywakiza Joining in on our planning discussions at our eGroup: on the web: EcoVillage-Belize/ through email: -EcoVillage-Belize E-mailing us directly: adahywakiza Hope to see you in Belize! Raphael Spindell Adahy Wakiza Eco-Village Project Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2003 Report Share Posted April 9, 2003 , Kennether Macon <mrsmacon903> wrote: > > Um another Jim Jones cult! LOL Uh yeah, whatever.. Sarcasm aside... we have a STRICT " NO Kool-Aid! " policy in the contract! We're all interested in living a nice long peaceful and healthy life free of oppression... Sorry if you can't see or appreciate that! But, in these times, caution is necessary of course, if anyone has any real concerns over this being a Jim Jones/Heavens Gate/Waco Texas whatever cult, then please express them. Raphael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2003 Report Share Posted April 9, 2003 I'm with you in spirit Raphael, but my time is totally filled. Probably the most experienced with the political structures you'll be encountering is Steven Gaskin. Here's a good resource for his experiences. rusty http://www.robotwisdom.com/jorn/gaskin.html rusty - " Raphael Spindell " <rspindell <rawfood > Wednesday, April 09, 2003 7:18 AM [Raw Food] Raw and Living-Foods Vegan Eco-Village Forming! > Raw and Living-Foods Vegan Eco-Village Forming! > > I thought this might be of interest to some of you who may feel as I > do, that living in today's society and attempting to be an ethical > and/or health motivated vegan is difficult to impossible and have > dreamed of having a place to call your own. Waking up in the > mornings, it's getting harder to look in the mirror and feel that I > am living within my value systems, to that end, I'm getting together > people in order to start a new Eco-Village in beautiful tropical > Belize (Central America) called " Adahy Wakiza " (formed from the > Cherokee words for " Lives in the Woods " and " Determined Warrior " ). > Diets will be primarily raw, whole, vegan-organic (no animal > inputs!), wild-crafted and wild-harvested vegetarian (vegan) foods. > The village will be completely sustainable and self-sufficient. > Several non-profit oriented programs will be administered from Adahy > Wakiza, including a Wildlife Sanctuary/Nature Preserve for endangered > rainforest flora and fauna, sustainability training center, and raw > vegan education and outreach services. > > > Adahy Wakiza is a unique and exciting project. Adahy Wakiza will be > a primitive tribal eco-village/intentional community, training > center, activist center, healing retreat, wildlife sanctuary/nature > reserve and native permaculture forest farm. We will be based upon a > hybrid Conservation and Community Land Trust model. Of the 166 acres > of land we are currently interested in, there are 25 acres > agrarian/semi-agrarian use, and the other land will be preserved as a > Wildlife sanctuary and Nature Reserve. We plan to expand on our land > in the future in order to widen the area of the Wildlife Sanctuary > and Nature Reserve. > > Become indigenous with the land, not just in spirit, but in > practice. Don't just talk about it, live it! ESCAPE NOW! Choose > your jungle: Concrete, or Wood! > > If you are interested you can get more information on the project by: > Checking out our website: > > http://www.childrenofthemillennium.org/adahywakiza > > Joining in on our planning discussions at our eGroup: > on the web: EcoVillage-Belize/ > through email: -EcoVillage-Belize > > E-mailing us directly: > adahywakiza Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2003 Report Share Posted April 10, 2003 Aw come on, Raph. Misch was just joking with you a bit. She even posted a 'LOL' (laugh out loud) thingie....just so you'd know she was teasing. I do think a " no-koolaide policy " is the way to go in any sort of communal living situation. *lol* This eco village sounds like a wonderful concept. I wish you all the best and hope it comes off without a hitch. Hey, did you ever see the movie 'The Beach'? (another merry tease) ~ PT ~ Nature uses as little as possible of anything. ~ Johannes Kepler, astronomer (1571-1630) ~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~~~~~~~~> , " Raphael Spindell " < rspindell@c...> wrote: > , Kennether Macon > <mrsmacon903> wrote: > > > > Um another Jim Jones cult! LOL > > Uh yeah, whatever.. > > Sarcasm aside... we have a STRICT " NO Kool-Aid! " policy in the > contract! We're all interested in living a nice long peaceful and > healthy life free of oppression... Sorry if you can't see or > appreciate that! But, in these times, caution is necessary of > course, if anyone has any real concerns over this being a Jim > Jones/Heavens Gate/Waco Texas whatever cult, then please express > them. > > Raphael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2003 Report Share Posted April 10, 2003 LOL Thank you for clearing that up. There are people in this world with a sense of humor. ~ P_T ~ <patchouli_troll wrote:Aw come on, Raph. Misch was just joking with you a bit. She even posted a 'LOL' (laugh out loud) thingie....just so you'd know she was teasing. I do think a " no-koolaide policy " is the way to go in any sort of communal living situation. *lol* This eco village sounds like a wonderful concept. I wish you all the best and hope it comes off without a hitch. Hey, did you ever see the movie 'The Beach'? (another merry tease) ~ PT ~ Nature uses as little as possible of anything. ~ Johannes Kepler, astronomer (1571-1630) ~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~~~~~~~~> , " Raphael Spindell " < rspindell@c...> wrote: > , Kennether Macon > <mrsmacon903> wrote: > > > > Um another Jim Jones cult! LOL > > Uh yeah, whatever.. > > Sarcasm aside... we have a STRICT " NO Kool-Aid! " policy in the > contract! We're all interested in living a nice long peaceful and > healthy life free of oppression... Sorry if you can't see or > appreciate that! But, in these times, caution is necessary of > course, if anyone has any real concerns over this being a Jim > Jones/Heavens Gate/Waco Texas whatever cult, then please express > them. > > Raphael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2003 Report Share Posted April 14, 2003 I do apologize for being a bit touch about this. I don't know if you realize how monumentally hard of a project something like this is to pull off. I've been working 80 hours a week on this, and dealing with a problematic wisdom tooth the whole time. I'm also doing this project because I will be a father in 9 weeks and wan't this thing to go well more than anything else in the world for my family and the world as a whole. I hope you understand that. I really do have an excellent sense of humor, when I'm not pressed under a large rock! I hope you were able to see that (even in a small amount) in my response about the kool-aid. And I'm sorry, but there is definitely going to be no kool-aid! Is that stuff even vegetarian/vegan? Anyway, with 25 acres of tropical fruits, and fresh mountain spring water, i can't imagine choosing kool-aid over a fresh rainforest-smoothie! Raphael , Kennether Macon <mrsmacon903> wrote: > > LOL Thank you for clearing that up. There are people in this world with a sense of humor. > ~ P_T ~ <patchouli_troll> wrote:Aw come on, Raph. Misch was just joking with > you a bit. She even posted a 'LOL' (laugh out loud) > thingie....just so you'd know she was teasing. > I do think a " no-koolaide policy " is the way to go > in any sort of communal living situation. *lol* > > This eco village sounds like a wonderful concept. > I wish you all the best and hope it comes off without > a hitch. Hey, did you ever see the movie 'The Beach'? > (another merry tease) > > ~ PT ~ > > Nature uses as little as possible of anything. > ~ Johannes Kepler, astronomer (1571-1630) > ~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~~~~~~~~> > , " Raphael Spindell " < > rspindell@c...> wrote: > > , Kennether Macon > > <mrsmacon903> wrote: > > > > > > Um another Jim Jones cult! LOL > > > > Uh yeah, whatever.. > > > > Sarcasm aside... we have a STRICT " NO Kool-Aid! " policy in the > > contract! We're all interested in living a nice long peaceful and > > healthy life free of oppression... Sorry if you can't see or > > appreciate that! But, in these times, caution is necessary of > > course, if anyone has any real concerns over this being a Jim > > Jones/Heavens Gate/Waco Texas whatever cult, then please express > > them. > > > > Raphael > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2003 Report Share Posted April 14, 2003 Well, well, well. Congratulations on you and your wifes new arrival! I have another on the way as well. Well I don't have that kind of money just laying around in the mattress some where. LOL May God bless your endeavors on your project! Meschell Raphael Spindell <rspindell wrote:I do apologize for being a bit touch about this. I don't know if you realize how monumentally hard of a project something like this is to pull off. I've been working 80 hours a week on this, and dealing with a problematic wisdom tooth the whole time. I'm also doing this project because I will be a father in 9 weeks and wan't this thing to go well more than anything else in the world for my family and the world as a whole. I hope you understand that. I really do have an excellent sense of humor, when I'm not pressed under a large rock! I hope you were able to see that (even in a small amount) in my response about the kool-aid. And I'm sorry, but there is definitely going to be no kool-aid! Is that stuff even vegetarian/vegan? Anyway, with 25 acres of tropical fruits, and fresh mountain spring water, i can't imagine choosing kool-aid over a fresh rainforest-smoothie! Raphael , Kennether Macon <mrsmacon903> wrote: > > LOL Thank you for clearing that up. There are people in this world with a sense of humor. > ~ P_T ~ <patchouli_troll> wrote:Aw come on, Raph. Misch was just joking with > you a bit. She even posted a 'LOL' (laugh out loud) > thingie....just so you'd know she was teasing. > I do think a " no-koolaide policy " is the way to go > in any sort of communal living situation. *lol* > > This eco village sounds like a wonderful concept. > I wish you all the best and hope it comes off without > a hitch. Hey, did you ever see the movie 'The Beach'? > (another merry tease) > > ~ PT ~ > > Nature uses as little as possible of anything. > ~ Johannes Kepler, astronomer (1571-1630) > ~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~~~~~~~~> > , " Raphael Spindell " < > rspindell@c...> wrote: > > , Kennether Macon > > <mrsmacon903> wrote: > > > > > > Um another Jim Jones cult! LOL > > > > Uh yeah, whatever.. > > > > Sarcasm aside... we have a STRICT " NO Kool-Aid! " policy in the > > contract! We're all interested in living a nice long peaceful and > > healthy life free of oppression... Sorry if you can't see or > > appreciate that! But, in these times, caution is necessary of > > course, if anyone has any real concerns over this being a Jim > > Jones/Heavens Gate/Waco Texas whatever cult, then please express > > them. > > > > Raphael > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2003 Report Share Posted April 14, 2003 Rusty, Thanks for the link. I've actually had the pleasure to meet several people from the farm who were in attendance at the Monday night meetings, had Ina May birth their babies and so forth. Maybe somewhere down the road we'll meet up! Raphael rawfood , " Rusty " <rustym@p...> wrote: > I'm with you in spirit Raphael, but my time is totally filled. Probably > the most experienced with the political structures you'll be encountering > is Steven Gaskin. Here's a good resource for his experiences. > rusty > http://www.robotwisdom.com/jorn/gaskin.html > rusty > > - > " Raphael Spindell " <rspindell@c...> > <rawfood > > Wednesday, April 09, 2003 7:18 AM > [Raw Food] Raw and Living-Foods Vegan Eco-Village Forming! > > > > Raw and Living-Foods Vegan Eco-Village Forming! > > > > I thought this might be of interest to some of you who may feel as I > > do, that living in today's society and attempting to be an ethical > > and/or health motivated vegan is difficult to impossible and have > > dreamed of having a place to call your own. Waking up in the > > mornings, it's getting harder to look in the mirror and feel that I > > am living within my value systems, to that end, I'm getting together > > people in order to start a new Eco-Village in beautiful tropical > > Belize (Central America) called " Adahy Wakiza " (formed from the > > Cherokee words for " Lives in the Woods " and " Determined Warrior " ). > > Diets will be primarily raw, whole, vegan-organic (no animal > > inputs!), wild-crafted and wild-harvested vegetarian (vegan) foods. > > The village will be completely sustainable and self-sufficient. > > Several non-profit oriented programs will be administered from Adahy > > Wakiza, including a Wildlife Sanctuary/Nature Preserve for endangered > > rainforest flora and fauna, sustainability training center, and raw > > vegan education and outreach services. > > > > > > Adahy Wakiza is a unique and exciting project. Adahy Wakiza will be > > a primitive tribal eco-village/intentional community, training > > center, activist center, healing retreat, wildlife sanctuary/nature > > reserve and native permaculture forest farm. We will be based upon a > > hybrid Conservation and Community Land Trust model. Of the 166 acres > > of land we are currently interested in, there are 25 acres > > agrarian/semi-agrarian use, and the other land will be preserved as a > > Wildlife sanctuary and Nature Reserve. We plan to expand on our land > > in the future in order to widen the area of the Wildlife Sanctuary > > and Nature Reserve. > > > > Become indigenous with the land, not just in spirit, but in > > practice. Don't just talk about it, live it! ESCAPE NOW! Choose > > your jungle: Concrete, or Wood! > > > > If you are interested you can get more information on the project by: > > Checking out our website: > > > > http://www.childrenofthemillennium.org/adahywakiza > > > > Joining in on our planning discussions at our eGroup: > > on the web: EcoVillage-Belize/ > > through email: -EcoVillage-Belize > > > > E-mailing us directly: > > adahywakiza@c... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2003 Report Share Posted April 14, 2003 Since it takes sugar (horribly bitter without it), some would probably tell you no way. ) Lois S. ely going to be no kool-aid! Is that stuff even vegetarian/vegan? Tax Center - File online, calculators, forms, and more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2003 Report Share Posted April 14, 2003 No problem at all, Raphael. Thanks for explaining. I can imagine the stress of your new venture and the life change of having a child. Congratulations on that count. You will experience so much joy and happiness...and if you think you are tired now.... *lol* Those fresh rainforest fruit smoothies will help give you the natural energy to make it through. I wish you all the best. Namaste. ~ PT ~ It is better to master the mind than be mastered by mind. ~ Zen saying ~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~~~~~~~> , " Raphael Spindell " < rspindell@c...> wrote: > I do apologize for being a bit touch about this. I don't know if you > realize how monumentally hard of a project something like this is to > pull off. I've been working 80 hours a week on this, and dealing > with a problematic wisdom tooth the whole time. I'm also doing this > project because I will be a father in 9 weeks and wan't this thing to > go well more than anything else in the world for my family and the > world as a whole. I hope you understand that. I really do have an > excellent sense of humor, when I'm not pressed under a large rock! I > hope you were able to see that (even in a small amount) in my > response about the kool-aid. > > And I'm sorry, but there is definitely going to be no kool-aid! Is > that stuff even vegetarian/vegan? Anyway, with 25 acres of tropical > fruits, and fresh mountain spring water, i can't imagine choosing > kool-aid over a fresh rainforest-smoothie! > > Raphael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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