Link to whether Bay Area restaurants are really vegan or veg

[Guest guest]

Can anyone email me or the group a link or a list of whether

different Bay area restaurants that claim they are veg or vegan

really are? For example, I know that some mock meats contain

refined sugar, eggs or egg whites, and/or milk. I try and try to

ask many questions with restaurant personnel; however, I know the

definition of vegan is different for different people. How do I

know for sure how veggie or vegan a place is? I having been trying

out most of the places on the vegdining site in the area (except for

the ghee using Indian restaurants).

 

Toni, DJ Veggie

(AKA DJ Madame Bovary)

djmadameb

[Guest guest]

Good question. I always have my doubts and this is one of my pet peeves.

 

I know Golden Era in SF personally visited one of their fake meat

supplier and found that they used eggs even though they claimed on their

packaging that they did not. So a big thumbs up to Golden Era for going

that extract step and changing suppliers (I'm not sure about sugar in

their products though.)

 

Please report back with your findings. I for one would be very

interested in finding out, especially for Shangrila who claim to be

vegan even though they use egss in some soups and I've never had the

nerver to ask to go to the kitchen to see the ingredients list on the

packaging.

 

Maybe we can start a small local campaign to certify restaurants vegan

or how vegan they are?

 

Take care

 

Chris

 

 

Madame Bovary [tpennacchia]

Tuesday, April 22, 2003 10:39 AM

SFBAVeg

[sFBAVeg] Link to whether Bay Area restaurants are really vegan

or veg

 

 

Can anyone email me or the group a link or a list of whether

different Bay area restaurants that claim they are veg or vegan

really are? For example, I know that some mock meats contain

refined sugar, eggs or egg whites, and/or milk. I try and try to

ask many questions with restaurant personnel; however, I know the

definition of vegan is different for different people. How do I

know for sure how veggie or vegan a place is? I having been trying

out most of the places on the vegdining site in the area (except for

the ghee using Indian restaurants).

 

Toni, DJ Veggie

(AKA DJ Madame Bovary)

djmadameb

[Guest guest]

Hi everyone. I know there is a wide range of opinion on animal ingredients

on this list and we've been over the different opinions before, but, I'd

like to make a few brief points:

 

1. Nothing is really vegan. The grains we eat have insect parts in them;

mammals are also killed in their harvesting. The boxes that transfer our

food have glue made from animals. Water is often purified with charcoal from

animal bones. And on and on. So, in my opinion, the answer to how can you

know if a restaurant is really vegan is easy -- it's not. The world is going

to have to change very dramatically before such a thing as 100% vegan is

truly possible.

 

In the process of moving towards that change...

 

2. Until the focus of veganism becomes suffering rather than ingredients,

veganism is going to be very hard for the masses to accept.

 

I'll stop there, and if anyone cares to read more about this they can at:

 

http://www.veganoutreach.org/advocacy/path.html#veganexample

 

Jack

 

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" Chris James " <chris

<SFBAVeg >

Tuesday, April 22, 2003 11:01 AM

RE: [sFBAVeg] Link to whether Bay Area restaurants are really vegan

or veg

 

 

> Good question. I always have my doubts and this is one of my pet peeves.

>

> I know Golden Era in SF personally visited one of their fake meat

> supplier and found that they used eggs even though they claimed on their

> packaging that they did not. So a big thumbs up to Golden Era for going

> that extract step and changing suppliers (I'm not sure about sugar in

> their products though.)

>

> Please report back with your findings. I for one would be very

> interested in finding out, especially for Shangrila who claim to be

> vegan even though they use egss in some soups and I've never had the

> nerver to ask to go to the kitchen to see the ingredients list on the

> packaging.

>

> Maybe we can start a small local campaign to certify restaurants vegan

> or how vegan they are?

>

> Take care

>

> Chris

>

>

> Madame Bovary [tpennacchia]

> Tuesday, April 22, 2003 10:39 AM

> SFBAVeg

> [sFBAVeg] Link to whether Bay Area restaurants are really vegan

> or veg

>

>

> Can anyone email me or the group a link or a list of whether

> different Bay area restaurants that claim they are veg or vegan

> really are? For example, I know that some mock meats contain

> refined sugar, eggs or egg whites, and/or milk. I try and try to

> ask many questions with restaurant personnel; however, I know the

> definition of vegan is different for different people. How do I

> know for sure how veggie or vegan a place is? I having been trying

> out most of the places on the vegdining site in the area (except for

> the ghee using Indian restaurants).

>

> Toni, DJ Veggie

> (AKA DJ Madame Bovary)

> djmadameb

>

>

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[Guest guest]

I wonder if the health dept. or whatever agency regulates truth in

advertising would take up the cause of stamping out lying on the part of

food manufacturers. I've seen it many times before, generally on Asian

foods. In some cases, the nutrition labels are clearly bunk and in other

cases there is no listing of an animal ingredient though, if questioned over

the phone, they admit to using it.

One question is how much of an ingredient is required before the feds

require it to be labeled. I don't think that " egg-wash " has to be labeled.

 

 

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>Good question. I always have my doubts and this is one of my pet peeves.

>

>I know Golden Era in SF personally visited one of their fake meat

>supplier and found that they used eggs even though they claimed on their

>packaging that they did not. So a big thumbs up to Golden Era for going

>that extract step and changing suppliers (I'm not sure about sugar in

>their products though.)

>

>Please report back with your findings. I for one would be very

>interested in finding out, especially for Shangrila who claim to be

>vegan even though they use egss in some soups and I've never had the

>nerver to ask to go to the kitchen to see the ingredients list on the

>packaging.

>

>Maybe we can start a small local campaign to certify restaurants vegan

>or how vegan they are?

>

>Take care

>

>Chris

>

>

>Madame Bovary [tpennacchia]

>Tuesday, April 22, 2003 10:39 AM

>SFBAVeg

>[sFBAVeg] Link to whether Bay Area restaurants are really vegan

>or veg

>

>

>Can anyone email me or the group a link or a list of whether

>different Bay area restaurants that claim they are veg or vegan

>really are? For example, I know that some mock meats contain

>refined sugar, eggs or egg whites, and/or milk. I try and try to

>ask many questions with restaurant personnel; however, I know the

>definition of vegan is different for different people. How do I

>know for sure how veggie or vegan a place is? I having been trying

>out most of the places on the vegdining site in the area (except for

>the ghee using Indian restaurants).

>

>Toni, DJ Veggie

>(AKA DJ Madame Bovary)

>djmadameb

>

 

 

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