What should I do if I can't be vegetarian for health reasons?

[Guest guest]

Hi,

 

I am sorry to hear about your condition, you are very brave to have to deal with

this, and still think about the animals...

 

I have a book called " Organic San Francisco " . In that book, there are a few

places mentioned where you should be able to get free range organic meats. You

can also usually get free range eggs in any supermarket (yes, free range doesn't

mean necessarily cruely free, but it's sure a lot better than regular...). They

do also list one place that specializes in free range organic natural meat

(which by definition is also healthier than regular meat):

Dewes Brother Meats, 1706 Church St., SF (415) 821 0515

Never been there myself as I am a vegan, but I've recommended it in the past to

people whom I know are very unlikely to give up meat sny time in the near

future...

 

Good Luck to you...

 

Tal

 

So, the places are:

 

 

 

liberalgnostic <liberalgnostic wrote:

I tried to be vegetarian for six months, however I got so horribly

sick that I had to go back to meat. I have an illness that destroys

skeletal muscle among other things, and I notice that diet affects

it. I cannot eat more than twenty grams of carbohydrates or I start

to flare. I also need at least 100 grams of quality protein. My diet

includes beef everyday, 5 eggs in the morning, and chicken. I also

eat some low-carbohydrate vegetables. I require medications that are

produced from animals, and I could not live without them. Even more

horrific, my blood tests require the use of animal tissue. I suppose

it's a bit ironic that it is because of animal testing that

scientists know so much about my condition. I feel horrible about

the slaughter conditions and would like to know if there is any way

to choose meat with the most humane facilities. Are there any brands

anyone knows off-hand? Would it help to go to a health-food market

like Whole Foods? How is it possible to simply live my life without

contributing to animal cruelty?

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

> I tried to be vegetarian for six months, however I got so horribly

> sick that I had to go back to meat.

 

I am not a doctor or even close to a nutritionist so I don't want to give

you any advice as to what will work for your specific needs. But perhaps

someone who is qualified -- and who advocates a veg diet -- could give you

some nutrition/medical advice or counseling for what you need.

 

If you haven't talked to a veg health professional yet, I would really

encourage you to contact a health professional who supports/advocates a

plant-based diet.

 

Here are a few suggestions for some health professionals to contact (not

listed in any specific order).

 

-Dr. John McDougall - http://www.drmcdougall.com/

-Jack Norris RD http://www.jacknorrisrd.com/counseling

-Dr. Michael Greger - http://www.veganmd.org/bio.html

 

Good luck!

 

Cheers,

Tammy

[Guest guest]

Dear all,

 

Speaking of Organic, non-cruelty-free meats, I have a

somewhat related situation that I need your help and

advice in.

 

One of my brothers lives in Lodi (1/2 south of

Sacramento) on a 5-acres lot. He had adopted (with my

influence) and bought many farm animals (mostly

chickens, ducks, and goats) which he raises as pets

(i.e. he will not eat them).

 

Yet, at the same time, he and his wife continue to buy

supermarket meats. He does recognize that these meats

are very unhealthy with extreme form of animal

cruelty. I think a better alternative for his family

would be to consume his own animals. But for that to

happen, the animals must be raised humanely (which

they already are as they're free to roam around his

big lot), and equally important -- humanely

slaughtered.

 

I've been searching on the web for pain-free slaughter

methods for awhile and came to a conclusion that there

is no such thing.

 

Does anyone know of any such thing? Your help and

advice are greatly appreciated.

 

Anh

 

p.s. I already had him read Erik Marcus' vegan book.

So the rest of the decision making is his and his

only.

 

 

 

--- Tal <taltalita wrote:

> Hi,

>

> I am sorry to hear about your condition, you are

> very brave to have to deal with this, and still

> think about the animals...

>

> I have a book called " Organic San Francisco " . In

> that book, there are a few places mentioned where

> you should be able to get free range organic meats.

> You can also usually get free range eggs in any

> supermarket (yes, free range doesn't mean

> necessarily cruely free, but it's sure a lot better

> than regular...). They do also list one place that

> specializes in free range organic natural meat

> (which by definition is also healthier than regular

> meat):

> Dewes Brother Meats, 1706 Church St., SF (415) 821

> 0515

> Never been there myself as I am a vegan, but I've

> recommended it in the past to people whom I know are

> very unlikely to give up meat sny time in the near

> future...

>

> Good Luck to you...

>

> Tal

>

> So, the places are:

>

>

>

> liberalgnostic <liberalgnostic wrote:

> I tried to be vegetarian for six months, however I

> got so horribly

> sick that I had to go back to meat. I have an

> illness that destroys

> skeletal muscle among other things, and I notice

> that diet affects

> it. I cannot eat more than twenty grams of

> carbohydrates or I start

> to flare. I also need at least 100 grams of quality

> protein. My diet

> includes beef everyday, 5 eggs in the morning, and

> chicken. I also

> eat some low-carbohydrate vegetables. I require

> medications that are

> produced from animals, and I could not live without

> them. Even more

> horrific, my blood tests require the use of animal

> tissue. I suppose

> it's a bit ironic that it is because of animal

> testing that

> scientists know so much about my condition. I feel

> horrible about

> the slaughter conditions and would like to know if

> there is any way

> to choose meat with the most humane facilities. Are

> there any brands

> anyone knows off-hand? Would it help to go to a

> health-food market

> like Whole Foods? How is it possible to simply live

> my life without

> contributing to animal cruelty?

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Did anyone try to help you out? I didn't notice any posts in response.

 

The best way to know how your food was raised it to go to the farm from

which you are buying it and take a tour. Niman Ranch is a group of farms who

raise their pigs in non-factory farm conditions and Whole Foods normally

sells their brand (from what I understand):

 

http://www.nimanranch.com/

 

They are certified by the Animal Welfare Institute who has stricter

standards than other certifying bodies. Many farms that are labeled " humane "

really aren't much better than typical factory farms.

 

If you care to discuss your diet any further, feel free to write me

off-list.

 

Jack Norris, RD, Vegan Outreach

916/375-0014

jacknorris

http://veganoutreach.org

 

 

-

" liberalgnostic " <liberalgnostic

<sfBAVeg >

Monday, May 26, 2003 11:16 PM

[sfBAVeg] What should I do if I can't be vegetarian for health

reasons?

 

 

> I tried to be vegetarian for six months, however I got so horribly

> sick that I had to go back to meat. I have an illness that destroys

> skeletal muscle among other things, and I notice that diet affects

> it. I cannot eat more than twenty grams of carbohydrates or I start

> to flare. I also need at least 100 grams of quality protein. My diet

> includes beef everyday, 5 eggs in the morning, and chicken. I also

> eat some low-carbohydrate vegetables. I require medications that are

> produced from animals, and I could not live without them. Even more

> horrific, my blood tests require the use of animal tissue. I suppose

> it's a bit ironic that it is because of animal testing that

> scientists know so much about my condition. I feel horrible about

> the slaughter conditions and would like to know if there is any way

> to choose meat with the most humane facilities. Are there any brands

> anyone knows off-hand? Would it help to go to a health-food market

> like Whole Foods? How is it possible to simply live my life without

> contributing to animal cruelty?

>