Guest guest Posted April 10, 2006 Report Share Posted April 10, 2006 Pat, hi! I have not heard formaldehyde preservation alleged for coconuts...I have heard sodium metabisulfite. Three years ago, Dr. Tim Trader received an email from a personal source, a (Mexican, if I recall) young coconut supplier who sent us the following statement, which he said we could use as long as we retained his anonymity: " Each trimmed nut is immersed in a solution of sodium meta bisulfite - SMS (at a concentration of 3%, mixed with a fungicide, thio bendazole) for 5 minutes, then dried. This is to avoid that the nut turns brown upon exposure to air " John Kohler then did some research and wrote his now-famous article, which many have seen. I am pasting it below. Tim tells about birthday parties in Hawaii where they float coconuts in water with food coloring, and how delighted the children are when they open the coconuts and pour blue or green coconut water into a cup. This indicates that the " hard " shell of the coconut is utterly permeable, and whatever fungicide it is dipped in goes directly into the water and meat. For what it's worth... Laurie Laurie Masters, freelance editor Precision Revision " I turn what you wrote into what you meant! " LaurieM 408-289-1011 ------ -------- Reports of Young coconuts being treated prior to shipment We have had reports that the young coconuts that are shipped over from Thailand may be treated with a preservative and a fungicide before being shipped. The young coconuts are it dipped into a solution of sodium meta bisulfite (3% concentration with a fungicide thiobendazole) for 5 minutes. This information has not been confirmed. We are still investigating this, and want to get product testing done to see if there is any residual chemicals inside the coconut meat and water. We are still investigating this, and want to get product testing done to see if there is any residual chemicals inside the coconut meat and water. I believe the coconuts nuts are treated in this way for two reasons: 1. The Sodium solution acts as a " preservative " . Similar preservatives are commonly used in beer making and wine making - Sulfides (Sulfur dioxide) as well as dried fruits (so they keep their " pretty color). If the nuts were not preserved, they would turn brown and begin to oxidize. 2. The Thiabendazole is a systemic benzimidazole fungicide used to control fruit and vegetable diseases such as mold, rot, blight, and stain. It is also active against storage diseases and Dutch Elm disease. In livestock and humans, thiabendazole is applied to treat several helminth species such as roundworms. Thiabendazole is also used medicinally as a chelating agent to bind metals. This same fungicide is widely used on CONVENTIONAL produce, most commonly bananas. If you read most ANY box of conventional bananas, it will say " treated with Thiobendazole " .. It also appears that Apples, Pears and Citrus are widely treated with this same fungicide. Please read on for further information and links regarding the above two chemicals. 1. More information on Sodium meta Bisulfite - MSDS Sheet Canada's information about Sulfitest The Registry of Toxic Effects of Chemical Substances Management of Fungal Diseases in Tropical Fruits PDF 2. Thiobendazole Pesticide Information Profile Evaluation of pesticides in food Chemical Abstract Number (CAS #) 148798 Synonyms Thiobendazole, 1H-Benzimidazole, 2-(4-thiazolyl)- Arbotect Storite, 2-(4-Thiazolyl)benzimidazole Analytical Method EPA Method 641 Molecular Formula C10H7N3S Use: FUNGICIDE FOR SPOILAGE CONTROL OF CITRUS FRUIT; FOR TREATMENT OF DUTCH ELM DISEASE IN TREES; FOR CONTROL OF FUNGAL DISEASES OF SEED POTATOES; MEDICATION ANTIHELMINTIC (NEMATODES); MEDICATION (VET): ANTHELMINTIC. Agricultural fungicide Medication: anthelmintic As fungicide, controls green mold, blue mold, and stem end rot of citrus fruits;to control Fusarium basal rot and Penicillium blue mold on ornamentals bulbs and corms; to control crown rot on bananas; to control blue mold rot, bull's eye rot and gray mold on apples and pears; to control black rot, scurf and foot rot of sweet potatoes; to control Fusarium (dry rot) in potato storage. Also as a preservative for reconstituted tobacco. Control of Aspergillus, Botrytis, Ceratocystis, Cercospora, Colletotrichum, Corticium, Diaporthe, Diplodia, Fusarium, Gibberella, Gloeosporium, Oospora, Penicillium, Phome, Rhizoctonia, Sclerotinia, Septoria, Thielaviopsis, Verticillium spp., etc in asparagus, avocados, bananas, barley, beans, cabbage, celery, chicory, cherries, citrus fruit, cotton, some cucurbits, flax, mangoes, mushrooms, oats, onions, ornamentals, pawpaws, pome fruit, potatoes, rice, soya beans, strawberries, sugar beet, sweet potatoes, tobacco, tomatoes, turf, vines, and wheat. Also used for control of storage diseases of fruit and vegetables. A food additive permitted in the feed and drinking water of animals and/or for the treatment of food-producing animals; also permitted in food for human consumption. Apparent Color COLORLESS CRYSTALS; WHITE TO PRACTICALLY WHITE POWDER; White crystals; Tan crystals Odor ODORLESS Melting Point 304-305 DEG C Molecular Weight 201.26 Half Life 30 days Conclusion: If one is eating conventional produce: the treatments of the young coconuts are not anything " outside of the ordinary " . If one is eating non-organic bananas, one is probably getting Thiobendazole exposure. Its also present on apples, citrus, pears, and other fruits and vegetables (as mentioned above). The Sulfides that the cocos are dipped in are also present in many processed foods, as well as wines and dried fruits. Once again, this chemical probably also appears in one's diet at some point anyway. I am personally reducing my consumption of young coconuts until further investigation and testing can be done to determine the amount of residual chemicals absorbed into the meat and water of the coconut. I am normally very sensitive to any " conventional " treatment of produce. If I eat other kinds of produce that is treated, I will break out in rash. When consuming young coconuts, this has not happened to me. My girlfriend reports that occasionally after consuming a young coconut she will have an asthmatic response. This is possibly due to the level of sulfites present in some coconuts. I believe that some coconuts may absorb the chemicals in greater concentration than others. Another precaution I am taking is to never unwrap the outer plastic the coconuts come wrapped in, and only handle the coconuts by the plastic. I will no longer be composting the young coconut shells in my organic compost pile due to the fungicide (which has a half life of 30 days). If I had to choose between non-organic bananas, apples, pears or citrus fruits for a " does " of Thiobendazole, I would much rather consume young coconuts to get my daily dose. The above statements are my personal opinions, and research. This is not given as medical advice. Please consult your doctor for medical advice.. ------ -------- - Pat SFLivingFoods Sunday, April 09, 2006 7:13 PM [sFLivingFoods] Young Thai Coconuts and Formaldehyde There is a lot of discussion that these coconuts, after being trimmed to a smaller white husk core, are preserved, however, in reading this document http://www.fas.usda.gov/GainFiles/200308/145985752.pdf though dated, it seems formaldehyde is prohibited from use...not to say that the young coconut is not preserved, but where's the evidence that it's been dipped in formaldehyde before it reaches the States? Pat Your friend can to this list, by sending a blank email to: SFLivingFoods- If you already to this email list, you can post a message by sending your posts to: SFLivingFoods To find more information about our group http://living-foods.com/sflife SFLivingFoods Call the Sproutline at 415-751-2806 to check for up to date events and any last minute changes. 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