Guest guest Posted July 23, 2000 Report Share Posted July 23, 2000 Speaking of the Dalai, right now Fox is rerunning the episode of King of the Hill where some monks believe Bobby is the reincarnation of their Lama. It's a scream (if you can have a sense of humor about it.) When the Laotion neighbor finds out monks are coming to her party she shrieks " Oh! I get shrimp! " -Annie > " Sherry Tapke " <actionagency > > > Dalai Lama >Sun, 23 Jul 2000 19:29:36 -0300 > >I went to a Kalachakra initiation given by the Dalai Lama last August in >Indiana. The monks, every piece of literature on Tibetan Buddhism, >everything I saw, heard or read indicated the importance of vegetarianism >in >respecting life. I will have to see for myself, in something the Dalai Lama >has written himself, before I can accept as truth that he occasionally eats >meat. The " being polite " doesn't make sense. The Dalai Lama is an important >person and all protocols regarding him are given to people in advance. The >Dalai Lama's preferences are always given in advance to anyone or any group >that he is visiting. I cannot imagine that it would be possible for him to >be served any food without the prior knowledge and approval of someone in >his service. Also, the Dalai Lama is the incarnation of the Buddha of >Compassion. If any of you saw " Kundun " , the movie about the life of this >14th Dalai Lama, there was an incident (I'm going on memory here, so please >correct me if your memory is better) where work on a building was held up >because he would not allow worms to be killed. To solve the problem, the >worms had to be relocated, unharmed, to another area. Sorry, but this > " being >polite " issue just doesn't ring true for me. If someone has the name of the >book, written by the Dalai Lama, and the page number where he admits to >eating meat, I will look it up myself. Until then... I'm not convinced. >Blessings to you all, Sherry > ______________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2000 Report Share Posted July 24, 2000 Well, here's one article about the Dalai Lama eating meat... and I'll tell you, I think it's way too nice. West Meets East - Vegetarians and the Dalai Lama http://www.stealthtechnologies.com/satya/july99/sat.60.edit.html Over the past year, much outrage has been expressed over the diet of His Holiness, the Dalai Lama. In the mid 1960s, the Dalai Lama was impressed by ethically vegetarian Indian monks and adopted a vegetarian diet for about a year and a half. Apparently he consumed primarily nuts and milk. Unfortunately, he contracted Hepatitis B and his liver was seriously damaged. For health reasons, he was advised by his personal physicians to consume meat. While he has eaten meat in moderation ever since, the Dalai Lama has repeatedly acknowledged that a vegetarian diet is a worthy expression of compassion and contributes to the cessation of the suffering of all living beings. In spite of these admissions, his continuous meat-eating outrages many ethical vegans and vegetarians. Last December His Holiness attended a state dinner hosted by French President Jacques Chirac for Nobel Peace Prize recipients and human rights activists in commemoration of the 50th anniversary of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. When served a special vegetarian meal he asked for the same entrée that everyone else was having (braised calf's cheek and crayfish stuffed Vol-au-Vent) and reportedly commented, " I'm a Tibetan monk, not a vegetarian. " Ouch! > I will have to see for myself, in something the Dalai Lama > has written himself, before I can accept as truth that he occasionally eats > meat. The " being polite " doesn't make sense. The Dalai Lama is an important > person and all protocols regarding him are given to people in advance. The > Dalai Lama's preferences are always given in advance to anyone or any group > that he is visiting. I cannot imagine that it would be possible for him to > be served any food without the prior knowledge and approval of someone in > his service. Also, the Dalai Lama is the incarnation of the Buddha of > Compassion. > If someone has the name of the > book, written by the Dalai Lama, and the page number where he admits to > eating meat, I will look it up myself. Until then... I'm not convinced. -- Free email services provided by http://www.goodkarmacafe.com Powered by Outblaze Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2000 Report Share Posted July 24, 2000 Here's something from CyberConch Zine 08-07-98. http://cyberconch.com/171/ Postcards from Paradise by June Keith june Hello Dalai The other day I read a startling report in the latest edition of the New Yorker Magazine about the Dalai Lama's recent stay in New York, where a hundred Tibetan monks assembled to be taught by the great Buddhist leader. When 100 vegetarian box lunches arrived, several monks registered disappointment that there was nothing more interesting in them than brown rice and noodles. Where's the beef? In the greatest city in the world, they expected a little meat. " We are not vegetarian, " explained a member of the Dalai Lama's private monastery. " We are flexible. " The Dalai Lama reportedly passed on the vegetarian lunch and returned to his room at the Waldorf Towers where he ordered a steak. I thought I was hallucinating, but no. There it was in black and white. In the New Yorker. This is the kind of difficult news that settles uneasily into the subconscious only to reappear at some totally inopportune time demanding release. A ticking time bomb. A mental kidney stone. A cow jumping over the moon. Insomnia is made of prickly bits and pieces like this. The news of the Dalai Lama's lunchtime steak tapped me on the shoulder around 4:30 this morning. It was a short trip from there to the memory of the day Kim Romano told me that her Harvard English professor once said that Henry David Thoreau's mother regularly served him dinner at Walden Pond. Is nothing sacred? Was Kim Romano pulling my leg? Was that Harvard professor pulling hers? Can the New Yorker say the Dalai Lama ate steak if he didn't? How do they know what he ordered for lunch? Are the New Yorker writers flies on the walls? Are you not responsible for the murder of cows if you buy your meat neatly wrapped in plastic from the beef people at Winn Dixie or order it from the Waldorf Towers room service, like the Dalai Lama? Does Richard Gere know about this? Hello? -- Free email services provided by http://www.goodkarmacafe.com Powered by Outblaze Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2000 Report Share Posted July 24, 2000 http://www.msu.edu/user/uulansmi/beeserm/buddhism.htm ....Buddhism is the only religion which, as far as I can ascertain, has never initiated nor maintained a war. Its prohibition against killing is absolute, in contrast to Christianity’s, which has many exceptions. As Christianity is interpreted in Christian countries, one may kill in self defense, one may kill in time of war, and society may impose the death penalty.. In Buddhism one does not kill a human being under any circumstances. Some Buddhists, for instance the current Dalai Lama, eat meat, which necessitates killing animals. -- Free email services provided by http://www.goodkarmacafe.com Powered by Outblaze Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2000 Report Share Posted July 24, 2000 Killing Them Softly: The Buddhist Rationale for Eating Animals (Satya, April 1998) http://www.montelis.com/satya/backissues/apr98/rationale.html On a recent lecture tour, the Dalai Lama dined sumptuously on lamb at a chic Bay Area restaurant. Earlier in the year His Holiness partook of chicken soup at a seder. Nepalese Buddhist monks have been known to enjoy burgers, fries and shakes at American diners. Gelek Rinpoche, a Tibetan spiritual leader, proclaims, " We Tibetans like to eat meat. We don't care if it's healthy or not. We like it. " A Zen teacher once stated three times during a workshop, " Buddhism is not vegetarianism! " While that may be true, vegetarianism, for many, is an ethical practice based on non-violence and compassion toward animals. In that respect, Buddhism occupies common ground with ethical vegetarianism. A fifth century Sutra urges, " If you see a person about to kill an animal, you should devise a means to rescue and protect that creature. " Religious groups from the Jains to Seventh Day Adventists practice ethical vegetarianism. Buddhist scripture likewise exhorts us " to dwell compassionate and kind to all creatures that have life. " But how many Buddhists break this commandment and violate the prime directive of unconditional, pure loving-kindness to all creatures? Surely, the volitional act of eating murdered, mutilated animals stands in direct contradiction to the Bodhisattva vow, " All beings, without number, I vow to liberate. " -- Free email services provided by http://www.goodkarmacafe.com Powered by Outblaze Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2000 Report Share Posted July 24, 2000 Last year, staff members from the Fund for Animals petitioned His Holiness to adopt a vegetarian diet. He expressed great sympathy for the suffering of animals and agreed to work with the petitioners to educate Tibetans and Buddhists about vegetarianism, but held his ground on his own personal diet. http://www.stealthtechnologies.com/satya/july99/sat.60.edit.html > Does anyone know of an email address where we > can right to him ourselves and express of dissatisfaction? -- Free email services provided by http://www.goodkarmacafe.com Powered by Outblaze Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2000 Report Share Posted July 24, 2000 Were the former Dalai Lamas vegetarian? Deborah Last year, staff members from the Fund for Animals petitioned His Holiness to adopt a vegetarian diet. He expressed great sympathy for the suffering of animals and agreed to work with the petitioners to educate Tibetans and Buddhists about vegetarianism, but held his ground on his own personal diet. http://www.stealthtechnologies.com/satya/july99/sat.60.edit.html > Does anyone know of an email address where we > can right to him ourselves and express of dissatisfaction? -- Free email services provided by http://www.goodkarmacafe.com Powered by Outblaze ---------- ---------- Post message: Subscribe: - Un: - List owner: -owner Shortcut URL to this page: /community/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 1, 2004 Report Share Posted July 1, 2004 In a message dated 7/1/04 3:27:03 AM Pacific Daylight Time, writes: That's good news. I'm surprised the Dalai Lama wasn't vegetarian forspiritual reasons, before he saw dead chickens.Jome too... but at least he realized it better late than never i supposeheart,jen. I have no "bone to pick" but I've read some stuff that the Dalai Lama, although a very nice person, isn't really enlightened but mainly just a figurehead. This is not my opinion, I do not know of course, just something I've read from other spiritual leaders. Kristina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 1, 2004 Report Share Posted July 1, 2004 Hi Kristina I tend to agree - I don't feel that he is that spiritual. Jo heart,jen. I have no "bone to pick" but I've read some stuff that the Dalai Lama, although a very nice person, isn't really enlightened but mainly just a figurehead. This is not my opinion, I do not know of course, just something I've read from other spiritual leaders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2009 Report Share Posted April 27, 2009 The Dalai Lama spoke in Berkeley today and also served food to homeless people. Here's something he once said. Peace, Dan " People think of animals as if they were vegetables, and that is not right. We have to change the way people think about animals. I encourage the Tibetan people and all people to move toward a vegetarian diet that doesn't cause suffering. " - Dalai Lama Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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