Guest guest Posted July 27, 2009 Report Share Posted July 27, 2009 Distressed, hurt. Yesterday night I ordered and was having Tofu & Sauteed veg bowl at World Wrapp, AMC Mercado, Santa Clara, CA, USA. And they added chicken in it. I am VEGETARIAN FROM BIRTH Man! ???? Is it wrong to be a vegetarian and live in harmony with people who don't eat Non Veg? I never tried to convert people to vegetarianism, then why can't Non Vegetarians be kind and Open enough to be careful to our sentiments? Is it wrong to expect, to be honored of one's choice of being vegetarian when you go out and have dinner where non-veg is also served? I was skeptical when the dish arrived. and was eating very carefully. Spotted some nonveg piece. told Yogish to taste as he eats non veg. Yes, I am touchy and really careful when it comes to my food. Leave apart taking food from one's plate who is eating non-veg, I won't even used for cooking non-veg. Just because there is no escape from smell and people eating non-veg here, I adjust. else I would run away. Fine if they cannot respect people's wishes, they should clearly state in front of the restaurant, " ONLY NON VEGETARIANS Allowed. Vegetarians be aware. You can be served pieces of beef, meat, chicken or fish if you order with us. We are INSENSITIVE to Vegetarians. They have no rights to follow Their Choice " . Yogish confirmed it was chicken piece. Why can't people take care while catering to vegetarian people. Why this insensitivity? IF You care about this issue, please forward it to other friends in Bay Area, let is spread through out the world. It is not that I have anything against Non Vegetarians but I Need Respect regarding my Choice. I wish to be respected and treated with respect because I do the same. I never impose my choice of Food on other people. Why can't they Keep veg and non veg utensils separate? Why can't they keep veg products too separate? Restaurants will lose <50% clientele if all vegetarians decide not to eat in such restaurants resulting in Non Veg eating family members to be forced to eat at home and that too veg. I am sure no one will like that. There is so much more that I want to say right now but don't even know if people may shrug off their shoulder and say They said sorry. So what. It happens. But the issue has not been solved and will not be... why can't we raise our voice and let people know that they should be careful and be sensitive to our choice. where is the respect for vegetarians when things like these happen? I am really shaken because it makes me think, we are disregarding even ourselves if we are not raising our voice and letting govt or local govts make laws that will be sensitive to vegetarians. why not? We are no different than other people. are we? Manisha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2009 Report Share Posted July 27, 2009 manisha, from your experience of no meat in your diet since birth, i can imagine how distressful this must have been for you. i've been to this place on several occasions over the years, recently in the last month, and from my experience with this place, the workers there are basically kids and/or ESL people. i've not had an error w/ my orders like this there ever. of course, i wasn't there with you and i'm not aware of the actually conversations during the ordering process and/or follow up process but i would not place any disrespect meant towards you or vegetarians in general. I would guess it was a mistake, most likely due to rushing the orders or a misscommunication mishap. i too would like ordering a correctly made vegetarian dish to be as simple as ordering french fries but the facts on the ground is that respect for vegetarians are not a high priority for most people, not because they want to vilify/trash us, but mainly because alot of people have trouble respecting others in general, including themselves; let alone suspicious non meat eaters, as i've been made to feel after telling someone i'm a vegetarian. i hope you informed the crew of their mistake when you found the chicken, a good opportunity to at least remind people that " vegetarians " exist, if not to remind/inform them that also means no chicken. a quick education/awareness, not a preaching kind of thing. many people are uninformed on what it means to be a vegetarian, and it doesn't help that so called " vegetarians " have multiple definitions of the practice, sometimes including various meat sources into their " vegetarian diet " . did you inform the establishment of their error and if so, how did they respond? brian --- On Mon, 7/27/09, Manisha <mansy_b wrote: Manisha <mansy_b Why can't my choice be respected and treaed with more sensitivity? Monday, July 27, 2009, 10:29 AM Distressed, hurt. Yesterday night I ordered and was having Tofu & Sauteed veg bowl at World Wrapp, AMC Mercado, Santa Clara, CA, USA. And they added chicken in it. I am VEGETARIAN FROM BIRTH Man! ???? Is it wrong to be a vegetarian and live in harmony with people who don't eat Non Veg? I never tried to convert people to vegetarianism, then why can't Non Vegetarians be kind and Open enough to be careful to our sentiments? Is it wrong to expect, to be honored of one's choice of being vegetarian when you go out and have dinner where non-veg is also served? I was skeptical when the dish arrived. and was eating very carefully. Spotted some nonveg piece. told Yogish to taste as he eats non veg. Yes, I am touchy and really careful when it comes to my food. Leave apart taking food from one's plate who is eating non-veg, I won't even used for cooking non-veg. Just because there is no escape from smell and people eating non-veg here, I adjust. else I would run away. Fine if they cannot respect people's wishes, they should clearly state in front of the restaurant, " ONLY NON VEGETARIANS Allowed. Vegetarians be aware. You can be served pieces of beef, meat, chicken or fish if you order with us. We are INSENSITIVE to Vegetarians. They have no rights to follow Their Choice " . Yogish confirmed it was chicken piece. Why can't people take care while catering to vegetarian people. Why this insensitivity? IF You care about this issue, please forward it to other friends in Bay Area, let is spread through out the world. It is not that I have anything against Non Vegetarians but I Need Respect regarding my Choice. I wish to be respected and treated with respect because I do the same. I never impose my choice of Food on other people. Why can't they Keep veg and non veg utensils separate? Why can't they keep veg products too separate? Restaurants will lose <50% clientele if all vegetarians decide not to eat in such restaurants resulting in Non Veg eating family members to be forced to eat at home and that too veg. I am sure no one will like that. There is so much more that I want to say right now but don't even know if people may shrug off their shoulder and say They said sorry. So what. It happens. But the issue has not been solved and will not be... why can't we raise our voice and let people know that they should be careful and be sensitive to our choice. where is the respect for vegetarians when things like these happen? I am really shaken because it makes me think, we are disregarding even ourselves if we are not raising our voice and letting govt or local govts make laws that will be sensitive to vegetarians. why not? We are no different than other people. are we? Manisha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2009 Report Share Posted July 27, 2009 I didn't forward this to the group, and I meant to. Thanks, Erin. --- On Mon, 7/27/09, Erin Archer <erinarcherrn wrote: Erin Archer <erinarcherrn Re: Why can't my choice be respected and treaed with more sensitivity? " Manisha " <mansy_b Monday, July 27, 2009, 10:13 PM Are you serious, Manisha? Is it possible that they made a MISTAKE? Why do you feel a need to turn this into an issue of being disrespected? That position seems like it would cause a lot of stress for yourself and everyone around you. Yes, it's disgusting to find something dead (meat) in my food/mouth! It's against my preferences and my religion (Buddhism). But...so is being a jerk to other human beings, even if they eat meat, and even if they made an honest (or not-so-honest) mistake that disgusts me. This is California! As a vegetarian from Missouri, I feel like there are vegetarian options for food at any restaurant I go to. Not so in much of the United States. Are you from California, Manisha? Have you traveled the US? In CA, there are almost always several good options at restaurants (except chains or food court type places) that are vegetarian or even vegan, and numerous good vegan and vegetarian restaurants where I can order anything on the menu. I'm sorry that you had a bad experience. I'm sorry that chicken suffered and died only to end up on the plate of someone who didn't want the nutrients it had to offer, especially when protein-deprived people still starve to death and would gladly have eaten that chicken OR the grain it fed on. I'm sorry that you felt disrespected, but I think that you're making extra stress for yourself and others around you... including me, when I opened this email from you today. Take care, Erin --- On Mon, 7/27/09, Manisha <mansy_b wrote: Manisha <mansy_b Why can't my choice be respected and treaed with more sensitivity? Monday, July 27, 2009, 5:29 PM Distressed, hurt. Yesterday night I ordered and was having Tofu & Sauteed veg bowl at World Wrapp, AMC Mercado, Santa Clara, CA, USA. And they added chicken in it. I am VEGETARIAN FROM BIRTH Man! ???? Is it wrong to be a vegetarian and live in harmony with people who don't eat Non Veg? I never tried to convert people to vegetarianism, then why can't Non Vegetarians be kind and Open enough to be careful to our sentiments? Is it wrong to expect, to be honored of one's choice of being vegetarian when you go out and have dinner where non-veg is also served? I was skeptical when the dish arrived. and was eating very carefully. Spotted some nonveg piece. told Yogish to taste as he eats non veg. Yes, I am touchy and really careful when it comes to my food. Leave apart taking food from one's plate who is eating non-veg, I won't even used for cooking non-veg. Just because there is no escape from smell and people eating non-veg here, I adjust. else I would run away. Fine if they cannot respect people's wishes, they should clearly state in front of the restaurant, " ONLY NON VEGETARIANS Allowed. Vegetarians be aware. You can be served pieces of beef, meat, chicken or fish if you order with us. We are INSENSITIVE to Vegetarians. They have no rights to follow Their Choice " . Yogish confirmed it was chicken piece. Why can't people take care while catering to vegetarian people. Why this insensitivity? IF You care about this issue, please forward it to other friends in Bay Area, let is spread through out the world. It is not that I have anything against Non Vegetarians but I Need Respect regarding my Choice. I wish to be respected and treated with respect because I do the same. I never impose my choice of Food on other people. Why can't they Keep veg and non veg utensils separate? Why can't they keep veg products too separate? Restaurants will lose <50% clientele if all vegetarians decide not to eat in such restaurants resulting in Non Veg eating family members to be forced to eat at home and that too veg. I am sure no one will like that. There is so much more that I want to say right now but don't even know if people may shrug off their shoulder and say They said sorry. So what. It happens. But the issue has not been solved and will not be... why can't we raise our voice and let people know that they should be careful and be sensitive to our choice. where is the respect for vegetarians when things like these happen? I am really shaken because it makes me think, we are disregarding even ourselves if we are not raising our voice and letting govt or local govts make laws that will be sensitive to vegetarians. why not? We are no different than other people. are we? Manisha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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