beginnng the first-ever RR vegetarian restaurant guide

May 16, 2007

Well, I am going to SFO next month - my long-time favorite place is Greens. I

know there are a lot of newer and funkier places. Would love some suggestions.

I will begin the Boston list, and will ask my daughters (Orange County, Santa

Rosa) to contribute their favorites. I think this is a great summer project - in

the name of research we need to travel and eat out a lot!!

Sharon, can you send the revised data base so I get the format right the first

time? Also, can there be a way we can add comments (e.g. cleanliness, service,

quality) Thanks!

Also, a question to the group: how do we want to handle chains? For example,

Legal Seafoods (Eastern Seaboard) has pretty much the same menu at all

locations, with at least one vegan option (I checked last night when I went to

dinner there, and although the sauce contains sugar, it can be made without

sugar upon request.) It seems like a duplication of effort to list each link in

the chain, when this info is easily available from the company's own web site

(often with driving directions). Any ideas? (I am SO not a tech person, I have

not a clue how to do this!)

Gail

Sharon Wylie <swylie2002 wrote:

We're limited just because of how sets it up. We don't have a way to add

extra fields.

Okay, I made some revisions to the database I have going, if you want to check

it out. I got the price range there by moving the highway info to the street

address field, as Gail suggested.

I'm putting the highway info even when the restaurant isn't necessarily close to

the highway, just to help people orient themselves when travelling. There will

be restaurants in the San Diego list that are an hour from each other, and I

think knowing the highway and exit are a big help. It's different in smaller

areas, though.

Cheers,

Sharon in CA

Gail Shapiro

Wednesday, May 16, 2007 6:14:27 AM

Re: travel database -- PS

I'm sorry, I know nothing about data bases, so why are we limited again? One

idea is that the address can contain cross street or highway exit (in the east

most of the good restaurants are NOT near highways!), so that wouldn't have to

be a separate item perhaps.

Sharon Wylie wrote: The only trick is that we're limited to 10 " fields, " so if

we want to add something, we have to take something away.

We can change " sit down or take out " to " ambiance. " I think we should add " zip

code " to the " street address " line since a zip code will help anyone searching

on mapquest.

So if you want credit cards and price range, which fields would you want to

remove?

Sharon in CA

Gail Shapiro

Tuesday, May 15, 2007 5:44:47 PM

Re: travel database -- PS

Oh, and which credit cards they take! Some restaurants do not accept AmEx; other

teeny cafes take only cash - it's good to be prepared!

------------ --------- --------- ---

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Answers - Check it out.

May 18, 2007

The databases can't be sent. They're just part of our page here

(need to be signed into ):

http://health./database

I created three blank tables, so all you have to do is click " edit " for one of

them, change the name of the table to the city you want to start work on, and

then save the table. Then you can click on the table name to open it, and then

start adding records. Let me know if that works to get you started, of if you

need more info.

I love Greens too, by the way. I've had two very magickal meals there, both

times their pre fixe dinners on Saturday night. So good.

Blessings,

Sharon in CA

Gail Shapiro <weedabutt

Wednesday, May 16, 2007 7:20:36 AM

beginnng the first-ever RR vegetarian restaurant

guide

Well, I am going to SFO next month - my long-time favorite place is Greens. I

know there are a lot of newer and funkier places. Would love some suggestions. I

will begin the Boston list, and will ask my daughters (Orange County, Santa

Rosa) to contribute their favorites. I think this is a great summer project - in

the name of research we need to travel and eat out a lot!!

Sharon, can you send the revised data base so I get the format right the first

time? Also, can there be a way we can add comments (e.g. cleanliness, service,

quality) Thanks!

Also, a question to the group: how do we want to handle chains? For example,

Legal Seafoods (Eastern Seaboard) has pretty much the same menu at all

locations, with at least one vegan option (I checked last night when I went to

dinner there, and although the sauce contains sugar, it can be made without

sugar upon request.) It seems like a duplication of effort to list each link in

the chain, when this info is easily available from the company's own web site

(often with driving directions). Any ideas? (I am SO not a tech person, I have

not a clue how to do this!)

Gail

Sharon Wylie <swylie2002 > wrote:

We're limited just because of how sets it up. We don't have a way to add

extra fields.

Okay, I made some revisions to the database I have going, if you want to check

it out. I got the price range there by moving the highway info to the street

address field, as Gail suggested.

I'm putting the highway info even when the restaurant isn't necessarily close to

the highway, just to help people orient themselves when travelling. There will

be restaurants in the San Diego list that are an hour from each other, and I

think knowing the highway and exit are a big help. It's different in smaller

areas, though.

Cheers,

Sharon in CA

Gail Shapiro

Wednesday, May 16, 2007 6:14:27 AM

Re: travel database -- PS

I'm sorry, I know nothing about data bases, so why are we limited again? One

idea is that the address can contain cross street or highway exit (in the east

most of the good restaurants are NOT near highways!), so that wouldn't have to

be a separate item perhaps.

Sharon Wylie wrote: The only trick is that we're limited to 10 " fields, " so if

we want to add something, we have to take something away.

We can change " sit down or take out " to " ambiance. " I think we should add " zip

code " to the " street address " line since a zip code will help anyone searching

on mapquest.

So if you want credit cards and price range, which fields would you want to

remove?

Sharon in CA

Gail Shapiro

Tuesday, May 15, 2007 5:44:47 PM

Re: travel database -- PS

Oh, and which credit cards they take! Some restaurants do not accept AmEx; other

teeny cafes take only cash - it's good to be prepared!

------------ --------- --------- ---

Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows.

Answers - Check it out.

May 18, 2007

Well, it's lunchtime here, and I have finished my work goals for the morning, so

think I am going to start my research!

Sharon Wylie <swylie2002 wrote: The databases can't be sent. They're

just part of our page here (need to be signed into ):

http://health./database

I created three blank tables, so all you have to do is click " edit " for one of

them, change the name of the table to the city you want to start work on, and

then save the table. Then you can click on the table name to open it, and then

start adding records. Let me know if that works to get you started, of if you

need more info.

I love Greens too, by the way. I've had two very magickal meals there, both

times their pre fixe dinners on Saturday night. So good.

Blessings,

Sharon in CA

Gail Shapiro

Wednesday, May 16, 2007 7:20:36 AM

beginnng the first-ever RR vegetarian restaurant

guide

Well, I am going to SFO next month - my long-time favorite place is Greens. I

know there are a lot of newer and funkier places. Would love some suggestions. I

will begin the Boston list, and will ask my daughters (Orange County, Santa

Rosa) to contribute their favorites. I think this is a great summer project - in

the name of research we need to travel and eat out a lot!!

Sharon, can you send the revised data base so I get the format right the first

time? Also, can there be a way we can add comments (e.g. cleanliness, service,

quality) Thanks!

Also, a question to the group: how do we want to handle chains? For example,

Legal Seafoods (Eastern Seaboard) has pretty much the same menu at all

locations, with at least one vegan option (I checked last night when I went to

dinner there, and although the sauce contains sugar, it can be made without

sugar upon request.) It seems like a duplication of effort to list each link in

the chain, when this info is easily available from the company's own web site

(often with driving directions). Any ideas? (I am SO not a tech person, I have

not a clue how to do this!)

Gail

Sharon Wylie wrote:

We're limited just because of how sets it up. We don't have a way to add

extra fields.

Okay, I made some revisions to the database I have going, if you want to check

it out. I got the price range there by moving the highway info to the street

address field, as Gail suggested.

I'm putting the highway info even when the restaurant isn't necessarily close to

the highway, just to help people orient themselves when travelling. There will

be restaurants in the San Diego list that are an hour from each other, and I

think knowing the highway and exit are a big help. It's different in smaller

areas, though.

Cheers,

Sharon in CA

Gail Shapiro

Wednesday, May 16, 2007 6:14:27 AM

Re: travel database -- PS

I'm sorry, I know nothing about data bases, so why are we limited again? One

idea is that the address can contain cross street or highway exit (in the east

most of the good restaurants are NOT near highways!), so that wouldn't have to

be a separate item perhaps.

Sharon Wylie wrote: The only trick is that we're limited to 10 " fields, " so if

we want to add something, we have to take something away.

We can change " sit down or take out " to " ambiance. " I think we should add " zip

code " to the " street address " line since a zip code will help anyone searching

on mapquest.

So if you want credit cards and price range, which fields would you want to

remove?

Sharon in CA

Gail Shapiro

Tuesday, May 15, 2007 5:44:47 PM

Re: travel database -- PS

Oh, and which credit cards they take! Some restaurants do not accept AmEx; other

teeny cafes take only cash - it's good to be prepared!

------------ --------- --------- ---

Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows.

Answers - Check it out.

May 18, 2007

Do we want to agree on any kind of guidelines for what qualifies to post?

Especially in the " links " section?

For example, I created a folder for " veg-friendly chains " and started adding

links. I thought about adding Subway sandwiches, but it's hard to get enough

protein there (I guess you can add lots of extra cheese). I eat there, but then

I supplement the protein with my own stuff. So to me, I don't really think it

should be listed if you have to supplement with your own food.

In contrast, I did add some Asian places because you can always ask for the

sugary sauce on the side.

And I would like the places we list to have brown options (besides beans since

for vegetarians, the beans need to be our protein). To me, finding good browns

is frequently the hardest part of restaurant eating.

I guess what I'm saying is, I think we should be listing restaurants and such

where you can get a solid RR meal (with veggie protein and browns) without

having to supplement from food you brought with you or bought someplace else.

BUT on the other hand...I'm in Southern California where there's a lot of

options. If I were on the road somewhere with few options, I might welcome a

place with tofu and bean options, even if there were few browns. Maybe we should

just use our own judgement depending on what area of the country we're providing

info on.

What do people think about this?

Cheers,

Sharon in CA

Gail Shapiro <weedabutt

Friday, May 18, 2007 9:16:11 AM

Re: Re: beginnng the first-ever RR vegetarian

restaurant guide

Well, it's lunchtime here, and I have finished my work goals for the morning, so

think I am going to start my research!

Sharon Wylie <swylie2002 > wrote: The databases can't be sent. They're

just part of our page here (need to be signed into ):

http://health. groups.. com radiantvegetaria ns/database

I created three blank tables, so all you have to do is click " edit " for one of

them, change the name of the table to the city you want to start work on, and

then save the table. Then you can click on the table name to open it, and then

start adding records. Let me know if that works to get you started, of if you

need more info.

I love Greens too, by the way. I've had two very magickal meals there, both

times their pre fixe dinners on Saturday night. So good.

Blessings,

Sharon in CA

Gail Shapiro

Wednesday, May 16, 2007 7:20:36 AM

beginnng the first-ever RR vegetarian restaurant

guide

Well, I am going to SFO next month - my long-time favorite place is Greens. I

know there are a lot of newer and funkier places. Would love some suggestions. I

will begin the Boston list, and will ask my daughters (Orange County, Santa

Rosa) to contribute their favorites. I think this is a great summer project - in

the name of research we need to travel and eat out a lot!!

Sharon, can you send the revised data base so I get the format right the first

time? Also, can there be a way we can add comments (e.g. cleanliness, service,

quality) Thanks!

Also, a question to the group: how do we want to handle chains? For example,

Legal Seafoods (Eastern Seaboard) has pretty much the same menu at all

locations, with at least one vegan option (I checked last night when I went to

dinner there, and although the sauce contains sugar, it can be made without

sugar upon request.) It seems like a duplication of effort to list each link in

the chain, when this info is easily available from the company's own web site

(often with driving directions). Any ideas? (I am SO not a tech person, I have

not a clue how to do this!)

Gail

Sharon Wylie wrote:

We're limited just because of how sets it up. We don't have a way to add

extra fields.

Okay, I made some revisions to the database I have going, if you want to check

it out. I got the price range there by moving the highway info to the street

address field, as Gail suggested.

I'm putting the highway info even when the restaurant isn't necessarily close to

the highway, just to help people orient themselves when travelling. There will

be restaurants in the San Diego list that are an hour from each other, and I

think knowing the highway and exit are a big help. It's different in smaller

areas, though.

Cheers,

Sharon in CA

Gail Shapiro

Wednesday, May 16, 2007 6:14:27 AM

Re: travel database -- PS

I'm sorry, I know nothing about data bases, so why are we limited again? One

idea is that the address can contain cross street or highway exit (in the east

most of the good restaurants are NOT near highways!), so that wouldn't have to

be a separate item perhaps.

Sharon Wylie wrote: The only trick is that we're limited to 10 " fields, " so if

we want to add something, we have to take something away.

We can change " sit down or take out " to " ambiance. " I think we should add " zip

code " to the " street address " line since a zip code will help anyone searching

on mapquest.

So if you want credit cards and price range, which fields would you want to

remove?

Sharon in CA

Gail Shapiro

Tuesday, May 15, 2007 5:44:47 PM

Re: travel database -- PS

Oh, and which credit cards they take! Some restaurants do not accept AmEx; other

teeny cafes take only cash - it's good to be prepared!

------------ --------- --------- ---

Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows.

Answers - Check it out.

May 18, 2007

Yes, Sharon,that sounds about right. I too have trouble finding good browns.

Almost any vegetarian or Asian restaurant will have tofu, and you can always

find beans at Mexican. It's the browns that are difficult...

Sharon Wylie <swylie2002 wrote:

Do we want to agree on any kind of guidelines for what qualifies to post?

Especially in the " links " section?

For example, I created a folder for " veg-friendly chains " and started adding

links. I thought about adding Subway sandwiches, but it's hard to get enough

protein there (I guess you can add lots of extra cheese). I eat there, but then

I supplement the protein with my own stuff. So to me, I don't really think it

should be listed if you have to supplement with your own food.

In contrast, I did add some Asian places because you can always ask for the

sugary sauce on the side.

And I would like the places we list to have brown options (besides beans since

for vegetarians, the beans need to be our protein). To me, finding good browns

is frequently the hardest part of restaurant eating.

I guess what I'm saying is, I think we should be listing restaurants and such

where you can get a solid RR meal (with veggie protein and browns) without

having to supplement from food you brought with you or bought someplace else.

BUT on the other hand...I'm in Southern California where there's a lot of

options. If I were on the road somewhere with few options, I might welcome a

place with tofu and bean options, even if there were few browns. Maybe we should

just use our own judgement depending on what area of the country we're providing

info on.

What do people think about this?

Cheers,

Sharon in CA

Gail Shapiro

Friday, May 18, 2007 9:16:11 AM

Re: Re: beginnng the first-ever RR vegetarian

restaurant guide

Well, it's lunchtime here, and I have finished my work goals for the morning, so

think I am going to start my research!

Sharon Wylie wrote: The databases can't be sent. They're just part of our

group page here (need to be signed into ):

http://health. groups.. com radiantvegetaria ns/database

I created three blank tables, so all you have to do is click " edit " for one of

them, change the name of the table to the city you want to start work on, and

then save the table. Then you can click on the table name to open it, and then

start adding records. Let me know if that works to get you started, of if you

need more info.

I love Greens too, by the way. I've had two very magickal meals there, both

times their pre fixe dinners on Saturday night. So good.

Blessings,

Sharon in CA

Gail Shapiro

Wednesday, May 16, 2007 7:20:36 AM

beginnng the first-ever RR vegetarian restaurant

guide

Well, I am going to SFO next month - my long-time favorite place is Greens. I

know there are a lot of newer and funkier places. Would love some suggestions. I

will begin the Boston list, and will ask my daughters (Orange County, Santa

Rosa) to contribute their favorites. I think this is a great summer project - in

the name of research we need to travel and eat out a lot!!

Sharon, can you send the revised data base so I get the format right the first

time? Also, can there be a way we can add comments (e.g. cleanliness, service,

quality) Thanks!

Also, a question to the group: how do we want to handle chains? For example,

Legal Seafoods (Eastern Seaboard) has pretty much the same menu at all

locations, with at least one vegan option (I checked last night when I went to

dinner there, and although the sauce contains sugar, it can be made without

sugar upon request.) It seems like a duplication of effort to list each link in

the chain, when this info is easily available from the company's own web site

(often with driving directions). Any ideas? (I am SO not a tech person, I have

not a clue how to do this!)

Gail

Sharon Wylie wrote:

We're limited just because of how sets it up. We don't have a way to add

extra fields.

Okay, I made some revisions to the database I have going, if you want to check

it out. I got the price range there by moving the highway info to the street

address field, as Gail suggested.

I'm putting the highway info even when the restaurant isn't necessarily close to

the highway, just to help people orient themselves when travelling. There will

be restaurants in the San Diego list that are an hour from each other, and I

think knowing the highway and exit are a big help. It's different in smaller

areas, though.

Cheers,

Sharon in CA

Gail Shapiro

Wednesday, May 16, 2007 6:14:27 AM

Re: travel database -- PS

I'm sorry, I know nothing about data bases, so why are we limited again? One

idea is that the address can contain cross street or highway exit (in the east

most of the good restaurants are NOT near highways!), so that wouldn't have to

be a separate item perhaps.

Sharon Wylie wrote: The only trick is that we're limited to 10 " fields, " so if

we want to add something, we have to take something away.

We can change " sit down or take out " to " ambiance. " I think we should add " zip

code " to the " street address " line since a zip code will help anyone searching

on mapquest.

So if you want credit cards and price range, which fields would you want to

remove?

Sharon in CA

Gail Shapiro

Tuesday, May 15, 2007 5:44:47 PM

Re: travel database -- PS

Oh, and which credit cards they take! Some restaurants do not accept AmEx; other

teeny cafes take only cash - it's good to be prepared!

------------ --------- --------- ---

Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows.

Answers - Check it out.

May 18, 2007

OK, I have a question. I noticed that a Thai restaurant is # one. My

understanding from all the Thai restaurants I have been in is that

this food is very high in sugar. These restaurants need to be program

friendly, OK? So can you review the list and make sure we have that

criteria as well. Thanks!

Kathleen

On May 18, 2007, at 10:16 AM, Gail Shapiro wrote:

> Well, it's lunchtime here, and I have finished my work goals for

> the morning, so think I am going to start my research!

>

> Sharon Wylie <swylie2002 wrote: The databases can't be

> sent. They're just part of our page here (need to be

> signed into ):

> http://health./database

>

> I created three blank tables, so all you have to do is click " edit "

> for one of them, change the name of the table to the city you want

> to start work on, and then save the table. Then you can click on

> the table name to open it, and then start adding records. Let me

> know if that works to get you started, of if you need more info.

>

> I love Greens too, by the way. I've had two very magickal meals

> there, both times their pre fixe dinners on Saturday night. So good.

>

> Blessings,

> Sharon in CA

>

> Gail Shapiro

>

> Wednesday, May 16, 2007 7:20:36 AM

> beginnng the first-ever RR vegetarian

> restaurant guide

>

> Well, I am going to SFO next month - my long-time favorite place is

> Greens. I know there are a lot of newer and funkier places. Would

> love some suggestions. I will begin the Boston list, and will ask

> my daughters (Orange County, Santa Rosa) to contribute their

> favorites. I think this is a great summer project - in the name of

> research we need to travel and eat out a lot!!

>

> Sharon, can you send the revised data base so I get the format

> right the first time? Also, can there be a way we can add comments

> (e.g. cleanliness, service, quality) Thanks!

>

> Also, a question to the group: how do we want to handle chains? For

> example, Legal Seafoods (Eastern Seaboard) has pretty much the same

> menu at all locations, with at least one vegan option (I checked

> last night when I went to dinner there, and although the sauce

> contains sugar, it can be made without sugar upon request.) It

> seems like a duplication of effort to list each link in the chain,

> when this info is easily available from the company's own web site

> (often with driving directions). Any ideas? (I am SO not a tech

> person, I have not a clue how to do this!)

>

> Gail

>

> Sharon Wylie wrote:

> We're limited just because of how sets it up. We don't have a

> way to add extra fields.

>

> Okay, I made some revisions to the database I have going, if you

> want to check it out. I got the price range there by moving the

> highway info to the street address field, as Gail suggested.

>

> I'm putting the highway info even when the restaurant isn't

> necessarily close to the highway, just to help people orient

> themselves when travelling. There will be restaurants in the San

> Diego list that are an hour from each other, and I think knowing

> the highway and exit are a big help. It's different in smaller

> areas, though.

>

> Cheers,

> Sharon in CA

>

> Gail Shapiro

>

> Wednesday, May 16, 2007 6:14:27 AM

> Re: travel database -- PS

>

> I'm sorry, I know nothing about data bases, so why are we limited

> again? One idea is that the address can contain cross street or

> highway exit (in the east most of the good restaurants are NOT near

> highways!), so that wouldn't have to be a separate item perhaps.

>

> Sharon Wylie wrote: The only trick is that we're limited to 10

> " fields, " so if we want to add something, we have to take something

> away.

>

> We can change " sit down or take out " to " ambiance. " I think we

> should add " zip code " to the " street address " line since a zip code

> will help anyone searching on mapquest.

>

> So if you want credit cards and price range, which fields would you

> want to remove?

>

> Sharon in CA

>

> Gail Shapiro

>

> Tuesday, May 15, 2007 5:44:47 PM

> Re: travel database -- PS

>

> Oh, and which credit cards they take! Some restaurants do not

> accept AmEx; other teeny cafes take only cash - it's good to be

> prepared!

>

> ------------ --------- --------- ---

> Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone

> who knows.

> Answers - Check it out.

>

May 18, 2007

needs to be program friendly...

needs to have a personal visit

kathleen

On May 18, 2007, at 11:17 AM, Sharon Wylie wrote:

> Do we want to agree on any kind of guidelines for what qualifies to

> post? Especially in the " links " section?

>

> For example, I created a folder for " veg-friendly chains " and

> started adding links. I thought about adding Subway sandwiches, but

> it's hard to get enough protein there (I guess you can add lots of

> extra cheese). I eat there, but then I supplement the protein with

> my own stuff. So to me, I don't really think it should be listed if

> you have to supplement with your own food.

>

> In contrast, I did add some Asian places because you can always ask

> for the sugary sauce on the side.

>

> And I would like the places we list to have brown options (besides

> beans since for vegetarians, the beans need to be our protein). To

> me, finding good browns is frequently the hardest part of

> restaurant eating.

>

> I guess what I'm saying is, I think we should be listing

> restaurants and such where you can get a solid RR meal (with veggie

> protein and browns) without having to supplement from food you

> brought with you or bought someplace else.

>

> BUT on the other hand...I'm in Southern California where there's a

> lot of options. If I were on the road somewhere with few options, I

> might welcome a place with tofu and bean options, even if there

> were few browns. Maybe we should just use our own judgement

> depending on what area of the country we're providing info on.

>

> What do people think about this?

>

> Cheers,

> Sharon in CA

>

> Gail Shapiro <weedabutt

>

> Friday, May 18, 2007 9:16:11 AM

> Re: Re: beginnng the first-ever RR

> vegetarian restaurant guide

>

> Well, it's lunchtime here, and I have finished my work goals for

> the morning, so think I am going to start my research!

>

> Sharon Wylie <swylie2002 > wrote: The databases can't be

> sent. They're just part of our page here (need to be

> signed into ):

> http://health. groups.. com radiantvegetaria ns/database

>

> I created three blank tables, so all you have to do is click " edit "

> for one of them, change the name of the table to the city you want

> to start work on, and then save the table. Then you can click on

> the table name to open it, and then start adding records. Let me

> know if that works to get you started, of if you need more info.

>

> I love Greens too, by the way. I've had two very magickal meals

> there, both times their pre fixe dinners on Saturday night. So good.

>

> Blessings,

> Sharon in CA

>

> Gail Shapiro

>

> Wednesday, May 16, 2007 7:20:36 AM

> beginnng the first-ever RR