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Hello,

 

 

 

I haven’t posted for a while … have had a lot on.

 

 

 

I posted a while ago about this program & the retreat I wanted to go

on (thanks again for the responses then). I emailed the retreat centre & they

said I couldn’t prepare any of my

own food or go out to go get extra groceries at all. So I very sadly made the

decision not to go.

 

 

 

I made other plans & that took my disappointment away for a while,

however those plans have now fallen through so I am again thinking about the

retreat. I know I wouldn’t be able to do the program while there, mostly

because of the insufficient protein.

 

 

 

I’m now feeling like I may always regret it if I don’t take this

opportunity to go – I probably won’t have another.

 

 

 

I wonder how much it would affect me not eating proper protein for 3

months – I guess I’d be more teary, find it hard to concentrate in the

afternoons, feel more tired & need to sleep more. I’m working on step 3 now

so it would basically be a bit of a backwards step with that.

 

 

 

Sometimes I think, if I didn’t go now & kept working through the

program, it would be even harder to go on the retreat then because it would be

giving up a lot more progress than it is now (is that a crazy argument??)

 

 

 

 

 

I know this is my decision to make & no-one can answer it for me,

but I just thought I’d post again here in case anyone has any thoughts to add.

 

 

Thanks,

 

Nicola

 

 

 

 

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Nicola,

 

It is one thing for the retreat center to say *they* cannot provide

something outside their norm. But to say that you cannot take care of

yourself is not a healthy response to what people need. I have some

concern about why you would want to go to a place that does not value

real health needs.

 

Warmly,

kathleen

On Nov 1, 2007, at 1:00 AM, Nicola wrote:

 

>

>

>

> Hello,

>

>

>

> I haven’t posted for a while

> have had a lot on.

>

>

>

> I posted a while ago about this program & the retreat I wanted to go

> on (thanks again for the responses then). I emailed the retreat

> centre & they said I couldn’t prepare any of my

> own food or go out to go get extra groceries at all. So I very

> sadly made the

> decision not to go.

>

>

>

> I made other plans & that took my disappointment away for a while,

> however those plans have now fallen through so I am again thinking

> about the

> retreat. I know I wouldn’t be able to do the program while there,

> mostly

> because of the insufficient protein.

>

>

>

> I’m now feeling like I may always regret it if I don’t take this

> opportunity to go – I probably won’t have another.

>

>

>

> I wonder how much it would affect me not eating proper protein for 3

> months – I guess I’d be more teary, find it hard to concentrate in the

> afternoons, feel more tired & need to sleep more. I’m working on

> step 3 now

> so it would basically be a bit of a backwards step with that.

>

>

>

> Sometimes I think, if I didn’t go now & kept working through the

> program, it would be even harder to go on the retreat then because

> it would be

> giving up a lot more progress than it is now (is that a crazy

> argument??)

>

>

>

>

>

> I know this is my decision to make & no-one can answer it for me,

> but I just thought I’d post again here in case anyone has any

> thoughts to add.

>

>

> Thanks,

>

> Nicola

>

>

>

>

> _______________

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> www.seek.com.au

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> %2Eau%2F%3Ftracking%3Dsk%3Ahet%3Ask%3Anine%3A0%3Ahot%

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Im glad you are chatting about it Nicola ( that always helps me!)

I think you did well doing your research and not tearing off into it.

 

Now you have info to make an informed decision.

 

I can understand the yearning to want to do the retreat, I think I

would have felt the same way ( I havent done it over a retreat but I

have a long complicated silly story about getting a Dyson of all

things that put me and everyone else out:) Not the same situation at

all I know but there are echoes )

 

but having worked step 3 I see it differently. I know very well what

happens to me when I dont get enough protein. For me it is like

falling down a black hole and its not worth it - I start thinking -

the steps dont work, its all hopeless and I feel awful.

 

Re your last point - from a balanced perspective I am learning to

choose exactly what suits me in all respects - it is very freeing. It

*may* be different from what I would have chosen before, but thats

ok. Better, even.

 

In the midst of all this, how is step 3 going? its the one that made

most difference for me I think- how do you feel about it?

 

Best wish

mosaic

 

 

 

 

 

, Nicola <nic_paton

wrote:

>

>

>

>

> Hello,

>

>

>

> I haven't posted for a while … have had a lot on.

>

>

>

> I posted a while ago about this program & the retreat I wanted to go

> on (thanks again for the responses then). I emailed the retreat

centre & they said I couldn't prepare any of my

> own food or go out to go get extra groceries at all. So I very

sadly made the

> decision not to go.

>

>

>

> I made other plans & that took my disappointment away for a while,

> however those plans have now fallen through so I am again thinking

about the

> retreat. I know I wouldn't be able to do the program while there,

mostly

> because of the insufficient protein.

>

>

>

> I'm now feeling like I may always regret it if I don't take this

> opportunity to go – I probably won't have another.

>

>

>

> I wonder how much it would affect me not eating proper protein for 3

> months – I guess I'd be more teary, find it hard to concentrate in

the

> afternoons, feel more tired & need to sleep more. I'm working on

step 3 now

> so it would basically be a bit of a backwards step with that.

>

>

>

> Sometimes I think, if I didn't go now & kept working through the

> program, it would be even harder to go on the retreat then because

it would be

> giving up a lot more progress than it is now (is that a crazy

argument??)

>

>

>

>

>

> I know this is my decision to make & no-one can answer it for me,

> but I just thought I'd post again here in case anyone has any

thoughts to add.

>

>

> Thanks,

>

> Nicola

>

>

>

>

> _______________

> Your Future Starts Here. Dream it? Then be it! Find it at

www.seek.com.au

> http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fninemsn%2Eseek%

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Hi Nicola,

 

From your email it sounds like you want what they offer

but not with their conditions.

 

I am wondering what you think you will get out of attending

the retreat. What do you think it will add to your life? Is it

something that you can get another way that also holds your

health in consideration? What is the energy of a place that is

so inconsiderate of your needs and will that energy serve you

in your spiritual growth?

 

JoEllen

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

, Nicola <nic_paton wrote:

>

>

>

>

> Hello,

>

>

>

> I haven't posted for a while … have had a lot on.

>

>

>

> I posted a while ago about this program & the retreat I wanted to go

> on (thanks again for the responses then). I emailed the retreat centre & they

said I

couldn't prepare any of my

> own food or go out to go get extra groceries at all. So I very sadly made the

> decision not to go.

>

>

>

> I made other plans & that took my disappointment away for a while,

> however those plans have now fallen through so I am again thinking about the

> retreat. I know I wouldn't be able to do the program while there, mostly

> because of the insufficient protein.

>

>

>

> I'm now feeling like I may always regret it if I don't take this

> opportunity to go – I probably won't have another.

>

>

>

> I wonder how much it would affect me not eating proper protein for 3

> months – I guess I'd be more teary, find it hard to concentrate in the

> afternoons, feel more tired & need to sleep more. I'm working on step 3 now

> so it would basically be a bit of a backwards step with that.

>

>

>

> Sometimes I think, if I didn't go now & kept working through the

> program, it would be even harder to go on the retreat then because it would be

> giving up a lot more progress than it is now (is that a crazy argument??)

>

>

>

>

>

> I know this is my decision to make & no-one can answer it for me,

> but I just thought I'd post again here in case anyone has any thoughts to add.

>

>

> Thanks,

>

> Nicola

>

>

>

>

> _______________

> Your Future Starts Here. Dream it? Then be it! Find it at www.seek.com.au

> http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fninemsn%2Eseek%2Ecom%2Eau%

2F%3Ftracking%3Dsk%3Ahet%3Ask%3Anine%3A0%3Ahot%

3Atext & _t=764565661 & _r=OCT07_endtext_Future & _m=EXT

>

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Hi Nicola, I must say, for me the retreat wouldn't be worth it. I tend to

minimize how badly I feel when things are off. I really really don't ever

want to let myself get to that awful dark place I get to. And what's up with

not letting you fix any of your own foods? Hmm. Something's not right there.

 

 

 

On Behalf Of Nicola

Thursday, November 01, 2007 2:01 AM

 

retreat

 

 

 

 

Hello,

 

 

 

I haven't posted for a while . have had a lot on.

 

 

 

I posted a while ago about this program & the retreat I wanted to go

on (thanks again for the responses then). I emailed the retreat centre &

they said I couldn't prepare any of my

own food or go out to go get extra groceries at all. So I very sadly made

the

decision not to go.

 

 

 

I made other plans & that took my disappointment away for a while,

however those plans have now fallen through so I am again thinking about the

retreat. I know I wouldn't be able to do the program while there, mostly

because of the insufficient protein.

 

 

 

I'm now feeling like I may always regret it if I don't take this

opportunity to go - I probably won't have another.

 

 

 

I wonder how much it would affect me not eating proper protein for 3

months - I guess I'd be more teary, find it hard to concentrate in the

afternoons, feel more tired & need to sleep more. I'm working on step 3 now

so it would basically be a bit of a backwards step with that.

 

 

 

Sometimes I think, if I didn't go now & kept working through the

program, it would be even harder to go on the retreat then because it would

be

giving up a lot more progress than it is now (is that a crazy argument??)

 

 

 

 

 

I know this is my decision to make & no-one can answer it for me,

but I just thought I'd post again here in case anyone has any thoughts to

add.

 

 

Thanks,

 

Nicola

 

 

 

 

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being someone who regularly does retreats, i have learned to take as much of

my own food as i can/need - jerky can be a good protein source (meat or

soy) - hardboiled eggs can last a long time without refrigeration, so can

nuts/seeds - i have even used protein powder at every meal i needed to add

protein too - boring, yes - the best, no - but at least i got to do the

retreat - i say go for it

 

leigh

 

p.s. i leave 11/2 for a 7-10 day retreat

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hi all,

 

thanks *so* much for all the responses. i'd been feeling a bit like i was going

crazy because i couldn't talk to anyone about my decision - it can be just too

hard to explain this program & how food affects me.

 

i understand the concerns about the retreat centre not allowing me to organise

any of my own food - it's very disappointing & i wouldn't run a centre like that

because it excludes people. i don't know what their reasoning is.

 

however that is how it is & there are a lot of really big reasons why i want to

go there - it's really important to me. i'll let you know what i decide.

 

thanks once more,

 

nicola

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