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Thanks for replying to this Mosaic. It took me a while to find that

post and the file on protein amounts (I get regular e-mails with

everybody's posts and sometimes get mixed up using the group page

instead!) I've worked that out now though - thank you!

 

Kathleen's post seems to say what I was basing my thoughts on (from

the normal guidelines) about using only dense proteins to add up your

protein amount. It's very handy to have that list for reference. I

think I'll be making one of my own too with the foods that I like to

eat. I have a question though. We use dairy and eggs a lot, as well

as some nuts, soy, " faux meats " and now the lentils. We figured that

pulses were a decent dense protein food, and I was pleasantly

surprised at how much protein there is in them. We have a lot of

experimenting to do there with beans and peas, as we've not been

extremely keen on them in the past, but are sure that they must all

be quite different and that there must be so many different ways of

using them that we're bound to find foods that we like. Plus our

tastes are changing somewhat! Anyway, my question is about grains

and yogurt /milk (at least the soy variety). I didn't think these

could be included in the protein count, but are on this list, so I

just wanted to check that. The grains I'd use as my brown anyway, but

wondered especially about the yogurt. Somebody said they'd had it

explained to them that if you can't hold it in your hand then it's

not a dense protein, and yoghurt's a bit runny! I think it's just the

soy yoghurt and soy milk that are mentioned, and they may be a bit

different, I don't know! Any clarification?

 

I need to try tofu too sometime. We really liked the idea of making

tofu from homemade soymilk. I was worried about using too much soy

though, especially with five children eating along with me (we

normally eat the same thing), so wanted to get other options sorted

first. I should see if we like it first I should think too (!),

although maybe home-made tastes different as with most things. You

said Cinzia was helping you out with that - is that with making it,

using it, or both?

 

Okay, information overload here, but one last thing. You asked what

step I'm on. I'm about to move onto step 2 (just thinking about it

for a while first! Everyone else are pretty steady on breakfast too,

but I'll leave them there while I carry on. Saying that, we cut sugar

out 6 months ago having increased the protein, and were already

eating whole grains so just made sure it was all of the time. No, I

know that's not how it should be done, but it was an emergency

measure at the time and we're so glad we did. Now having some of our

challenges lifted a little through doing that and other things I'm

working on, we are more able to go steadily through the steps. So

basically we already eat regular meals, on time, with snacks when we

remember for me and the children (I'm breastfeeding our youngest) and

with whole grain and protein amounts. We enjoy our meals, and can

often see how we have gone off track or are going to and are growing

quite a lot more intuitive as to listening to our bodies and

understanding our needs. I hadn't liked the idea of journalling much

before (couldn't cope with the mental requirements for it anyway

before now), but it seems quite exciting in terms of helping me to

see even more what things are affecting me and how, and working on

understanding my body more. Having made those slight adjustments, and

having such great benefit from them, we're not going back, but are

now stepping more slowly through the steps in order. So I'll say I'm

going on to step 2, but my meals are all program-friendly for later

on! I'm waffling - shows me that I need to be in bed!

 

Thanks again for your help, Ceri :o)

 

>

> you'll be glad to know that doing the steps as a vegetarian is

> uncomplicated. Its exactly the same! I found a Kathleens post 1808 (

> pop it into the search top left to turn it up) very reassuring. Its

> just a case of counting the protein grams in dense proteins.

>

> so my store cupboard is stuffed with beans as thats what I like best

> and my journal says I thrive on beans! but I also have tofu

> ( thanks to

> Cinzia who is teaching me) Hope you get lots of other ideas.

>

> also do have a look in Files, top left - Heather put a brilliant list

> in there with protein values in it.

>

>

>> .

>

>

 

 

 

 

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Hi Ceri, and welcome!

 

Regarding " dense " proteins, on 28 October Kathleen posted an

explanation on the community forum (accessible via this link, you

might need to copy and paste into your browser address bar:

http://www.radiantrecovery.com/cgi-bin/bbs-new/webbbs_config.pl?

read=259416).

 

When it's all said and done, whether or not the " less dense "

proteins work for you will be up to you and your journal to sort out

(it will be very useful to you as you go along...though it can take

a while to make friends with it, LOL).

 

I can use something like yogurt for a few additional grams of

protein but it wouldn't work for me to use it as a substantial

portion of my protein need. And it probably wouldn't have worked

well for me even as a " topper upper " earlier in my program -- I've

been on step 7 now for nearly a year.

 

As to my " help " to Mosaic regarding tofu, I simply suggested a

recipe and some ways to change the texture (by pressing to extract

water and to make denser, or by freezing to change to a chewier

texture). Yes, I've made some tofu myself but I prefer the type I

can buy. I'm fortunate to be able to get very fresh (made the day

before) organic, non-GMO tofu from a small local producer whom I've

gotten to know from a farmer's market.

 

The recipe I posted was for Thai-style red curry. It's message

#1890 or you can simply search for " curry " and you'll find it within

the thread of messages. You can also make it with tempeh (cultured

soybean cake). Or with meats like chicken.

 

I encourage you to try various peas/lentils....there are SO MANY!

Some I don't like, some I do. I especially like them prepared with

spices, and Indian recipes are wonderful for this. Mmmmmm, I'm

getting hungry.... :o)

 

And the variety of beans (legumes) is really quite amazing. I hope

you have access to many of them; I can get a few dozen varities here

in the U.S. (some through mail-order). I recenly cooked some very

fresh dried flageolet beans for the first time. I sauteed a little

chopped leek, celery, shallot and some lemon thyme and added to the

cooked, drained beans. Delicious!

 

Let us know what you end up trying! cheers, Cinzia

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Many thanks Cinzia,

 

It's good to know you can change the tofu to your taste in those

ways. I like your idea with the flageolet beans too - I may try that.

I certainly plan on looking for and trying different beans and

lentils with new and old recipes. Maybe with wheat as a base to start

with and beans mixed in, or rice with different lentils. I'll get

more adventurous too but want to search for recipes a bit and see

what I like the sound of. Thanks for your help, I appreciate that.

 

Ceri :o)

 

On 7 Nov 2007, at 01:05, cinziatre wrote:

 

> Hi Ceri, and welcome!

>

> Regarding " dense " proteins, on 28 October Kathleen posted an

> explanation on the community forum (accessible via this link, you

> might need to copy and paste into your browser address bar:

> http://www.radiantrecovery.com/cgi-bin/bbs-new/webbbs_config.pl?

> read=259416).

>

> When it's all said and done, whether or not the " less dense "

> proteins work for you will be up to you and your journal to sort out

> (it will be very useful to you as you go along...though it can take

> a while to make friends with it, LOL).

>

> I can use something like yogurt for a few additional grams of

> protein but it wouldn't work for me to use it as a substantial

> portion of my protein need. And it probably wouldn't have worked

> well for me even as a " topper upper " earlier in my program -- I've

> been on step 7 now for nearly a year.

>

> As to my " help " to Mosaic regarding tofu, I simply suggested a

> recipe and some ways to change the texture (by pressing to extract

> water and to make denser, or by freezing to change to a chewier

> texture). Yes, I've made some tofu myself but I prefer the type I

> can buy. I'm fortunate to be able to get very fresh (made the day

> before) organic, non-GMO tofu from a small local producer whom I've

> gotten to know from a farmer's market.

>

> The recipe I posted was for Thai-style red curry. It's message

> #1890 or you can simply search for " curry " and you'll find it within

> the thread of messages. You can also make it with tempeh (cultured

> soybean cake). Or with meats like chicken.

>

> I encourage you to try various peas/lentils....there are SO MANY!

> Some I don't like, some I do. I especially like them prepared with

> spices, and Indian recipes are wonderful for this. Mmmmmm, I'm

> getting hungry.... :o)

>

> And the variety of beans (legumes) is really quite amazing. I hope

> you have access to many of them; I can get a few dozen varities here

> in the U.S. (some through mail-order). I recenly cooked some very

> fresh dried flageolet beans for the first time. I sauteed a little

> chopped leek, celery, shallot and some lemon thyme and added to the

> cooked, drained beans. Delicious!

>

> Let us know what you end up trying! cheers, Cinzia

>

>

>

 

 

 

 

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, ceriandco wrote:

 

liked the idea of making

> tofu from homemade soymilk. I was worried about using too much soy

> though, especially with five children eating along with me (we

> normally eat the same thing), so wanted to get other options sorted

> first.

 

Ceri, have a look at Kathleens article on soy

 

http://www.radiantrecovery.com/resourcecenter/soystory.htm

 

may help you decide. - have a read and see what you think.

 

myself I choose a serving a day as it suits me.

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Thanks Mosaic. I had read this article, and partly because of it feel

that I still do want to use soy but not more than once a day and

probably less than that for the children. It's a great article.

 

Ceri

 

 

On 7 Nov 2007, at 19:31, mosaic wrote:

 

> , ceriandco wrote:

>

> liked the idea of making

> > tofu from homemade soymilk. I was worried about using too much soy

> > though, especially with five children eating along with me (we

> > normally eat the same thing), so wanted to get other options sorted

> > first.

>

> Ceri, have a look at Kathleens article on soy

>

> http://www.radiantrecovery.com/resourcecenter/soystory.htm

>

> may help you decide. - have a read and see what you think.

>

> myself I choose a serving a day as it suits me.

>

>

>

 

 

 

 

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Hi Ceri and all.

 

I havent written before, just been looking at emails. I have adrenal

fatigue and most things at the moment are too much. I am on step 1, and

been mostly vegetarian in the past, but too get the protein I am now

eating fish. Please can you tell me where to look for Heather's list of

protein in files. I have searched everywhere but I can't find it

anywhere. Please let me know wtep by step. Sorry, but otherwise I won't

be able to find it.

 

Thanks again,

 

Pat uk>

 

 

Thanks for replying to this Mosaic. It took me a while to find that

> post and the file on protein amounts (I get regular e-mails with

> everybody's posts and sometimes get mixed up using the group page

> instead!) I've worked that out now though - thank you!

>

> Kathleen's post seems to say what I was basing my thoughts on (from

> the normal guidelines) about using only dense proteins to add up your

> protein amount. It's very handy to have that list for reference. I

> think I'll be making one of my own too with the foods that I like to

> eat. I have a question though. We use dairy and eggs a lot, as well

> as some nuts, soy, " faux meats " and now the lentils. We figured that

> pulses were a decent dense protein food, and I was pleasantly

> surprised at how much protein there is in them. We have a lot of

> experimenting to do there with beans and peas, as we've not been

> extremely keen on them in the past, but are sure that they must all

> be quite different and that there must be so many different ways of

> using them that we're bound to find foods that we like. Plus our

> tastes are changing somewhat! Anyway, my question is about grains

> and yogurt /milk (at least the soy variety). I didn't think these

> could be included in the protein count, but are on this list, so I

> just wanted to check that. The grains I'd use as my brown anyway, but

> wondered especially about the yogurt. Somebody said they'd had it

> explained to them that if you can't hold it in your hand then it's

> not a dense protein, and yoghurt's a bit runny! I think it's just the

> soy yoghurt and soy milk that are mentioned, and they may be a bit

> different, I don't know! Any clarification?

>

> I need to try tofu too sometime. We really liked the idea of making

> tofu from homemade soymilk. I was worried about using too much soy

> though, especially with five children eating along with me (we

> normally eat the same thing), so wanted to get other options sorted

> first. I should see if we like it first I should think too (!),

> although maybe home-made tastes different as with most things. You

> said Cinzia was helping you out with that - is that with making it,

> using it, or both?

>

> Okay, information overload here, but one last thing. You asked what

> step I'm on. I'm about to move onto step 2 (just thinking about it

> for a while first! Everyone else are pretty steady on breakfast too,

> but I'll leave them there while I carry on. Saying that, we cut sugar

> out 6 months ago having increased the protein, and were already

> eating whole grains so just made sure it was all of the time. No, I

> know that's not how it should be done, but it was an emergency

> measure at the time and we're so glad we did. Now having some of our

> challenges lifted a little through doing that and other things I'm

> working on, we are more able to go steadily through the steps. So

> basically we already eat regular meals, on time, with snacks when we

> remember for me and the children (I'm breastfeeding our youngest) and

> with whole grain and protein amounts. We enjoy our meals, and can

> often see how we have gone off track or are going to and are growing

> quite a lot more intuitive as to listening to our bodies and

> understanding our needs. I hadn't liked the idea of journalling much

> before (couldn't cope with the mental requirements for it anyway

> before now), but it seems quite exciting in terms of helping me to

> see even more what things are affecting me and how, and working on

> understanding my body more. Having made those slight adjustments, and

> having such great benefit from them, we're not going back, but are

> now stepping more slowly through the steps in order. So I'll say I'm

> going on to step 2, but my meals are all program-friendly for later

> on! I'm waffling - shows me that I need to be in bed!

>

> Thanks again for your help, Ceri :o)

>

>>

>> you'll be glad to know that doing the steps as a vegetarian is

>> uncomplicated. Its exactly the same! I found a Kathleens post 1808 (

>> pop it into the search top left to turn it up) very reassuring. Its

>> just a case of counting the protein grams in dense proteins.

>>

>> so my store cupboard is stuffed with beans as thats what I like best

>> and my journal says I thrive on beans! but I also have tofu

>> ( thanks to

>> Cinzia who is teaching me) Hope you get lots of other ideas.

>>

>> also do have a look in Files, top left - Heather put a brilliant list

>> in there with protein values in it.

>>

>>

>>> .

>>

>>

>

>

>

>

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Welcome Pat!

ok I'll have a go.

see the blue box on the left? Just under the turquoise bar labelled

. Its got headings, Home, messages etc

Click on the heading marked Files.

 

then, 4th down, click on-

List of vegetarian protein sources.

 

and there is the list. Any other questions or finding stuff just let

us know.

 

Glad you're here. Hope you'll call back and tell us about your

breakfast. How is it going?

mosaic

 

 

 

, patmatthews wrote:

>

> Hi Ceri and all.

>

> I havent written before, just been looking at emails. I have

adrenal

> fatigue and most things at the moment are too much. I am on step

1, and

> been mostly vegetarian in the past, but too get the protein I am now

> eating fish. Please can you tell me where to look for Heather's

list of

> protein in files. I have searched everywhere but I can't find it

> anywhere. Please let me know wtep by step. Sorry, but otherwise I

won't

> be able to find it.

>

> Thanks again,

>

> Pat uk>

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Hello Pat.

 

I forgot about the fish - I do eat fish sometimes if I feel I need

something more - the same amount of protein seems to do more for me

both with fish and eggs.

 

To get to the list of proteins, try this:

- First go to the homepage (probably by going to

, then looking through your list of " My Groups " on

the left-hand side).

- Once you're on the home page for the list, there is a pale blue box

on the left of your screen with a list of places to go. Files is

about the 4th option on that list. Click on it.

- Now you get the list of files coming up. You can click on any of

them to look at them. The list I found (assuming it's the right one)

is entitled " List of Vegetarian Protein Sources " and is the 4th file

in the list.

 

I hope this is step-by-step enough. I always seem to waffle a bit

however " simply " I try to explain things!

 

Good luck with your step one, and hope you are feeling well.

Best wishes, Ceri :o)

 

 

 

 

 

On 9 Nov 2007, at 19:41, patmatthews wrote:

 

> Hi Ceri and all.

>

> I havent written before, just been looking at emails. I have adrenal

> fatigue and most things at the moment are too much. I am on step 1,

> and

> been mostly vegetarian in the past, but too get the protein I am now

> eating fish. Please can you tell me where to look for Heather's

> list of

> protein in files. I have searched everywhere but I can't find it

> anywhere. Please let me know wtep by step. Sorry, but otherwise I

> won't

> be able to find it.

>

> Thanks again,

>

> Pat uk>

>

> Thanks for replying to this Mosaic. It took me a while to find that

> > post and the file on protein amounts (I get regular e-mails with

> > everybody's posts and sometimes get mixed up using the group page

> > instead!) I've worked that out now though - thank you!

> >

> > Kathleen's post seems to say what I was basing my thoughts on (from

> > the normal guidelines) about using only dense proteins to add up

> your

> > protein amount. It's very handy to have that list for reference. I

> > think I'll be making one of my own too with the foods that I like to

> > eat. I have a question though. We use dairy and eggs a lot, as well

> > as some nuts, soy, " faux meats " and now the lentils. We figured that

> > pulses were a decent dense protein food, and I was pleasantly

> > surprised at how much protein there is in them. We have a lot of

> > experimenting to do there with beans and peas, as we've not been

> > extremely keen on them in the past, but are sure that they must all

> > be quite different and that there must be so many different ways of

> > using them that we're bound to find foods that we like. Plus our

> > tastes are changing somewhat! Anyway, my question is about grains

> > and yogurt /milk (at least the soy variety). I didn't think these

> > could be included in the protein count, but are on this list, so I

> > just wanted to check that. The grains I'd use as my brown anyway,

> but

> > wondered especially about the yogurt. Somebody said they'd had it

> > explained to them that if you can't hold it in your hand then it's

> > not a dense protein, and yoghurt's a bit runny! I think it's just

> the

> > soy yoghurt and soy milk that are mentioned, and they may be a bit

> > different, I don't know! Any clarification?

> >

> > I need to try tofu too sometime. We really liked the idea of making

> > tofu from homemade soymilk. I was worried about using too much soy

> > though, especially with five children eating along with me (we

> > normally eat the same thing), so wanted to get other options sorted

> > first. I should see if we like it first I should think too (!),

> > although maybe home-made tastes different as with most things. You

> > said Cinzia was helping you out with that - is that with making it,

> > using it, or both?

> >

> > Okay, information overload here, but one last thing. You asked what

> > step I'm on. I'm about to move onto step 2 (just thinking about it

> > for a while first! Everyone else are pretty steady on breakfast too,

> > but I'll leave them there while I carry on. Saying that, we cut

> sugar

> > out 6 months ago having increased the protein, and were already

> > eating whole grains so just made sure it was all of the time. No, I

> > know that's not how it should be done, but it was an emergency

> > measure at the time and we're so glad we did. Now having some of our

> > challenges lifted a little through doing that and other things I'm

> > working on, we are more able to go steadily through the steps. So

> > basically we already eat regular meals, on time, with snacks when we

> > remember for me and the children (I'm breastfeeding our youngest)

> and

> > with whole grain and protein amounts. We enjoy our meals, and can

> > often see how we have gone off track or are going to and are growing

> > quite a lot more intuitive as to listening to our bodies and

> > understanding our needs. I hadn't liked the idea of journalling much

> > before (couldn't cope with the mental requirements for it anyway

> > before now), but it seems quite exciting in terms of helping me to

> > see even more what things are affecting me and how, and working on

> > understanding my body more. Having made those slight adjustments,

> and

> > having such great benefit from them, we're not going back, but are

> > now stepping more slowly through the steps in order. So I'll say I'm

> > going on to step 2, but my meals are all program-friendly for later

> > on! I'm waffling - shows me that I need to be in bed!

> >

> > Thanks again for your help, Ceri :o)

> >

> >>

> >> you'll be glad to know that doing the steps as a vegetarian is

> >> uncomplicated. Its exactly the same! I found a Kathleens post

> 1808 (

> >> pop it into the search top left to turn it up) very reassuring. Its

> >> just a case of counting the protein grams in dense proteins.

> >>

> >> so my store cupboard is stuffed with beans as thats what I like

> best

> >> and my journal says I thrive on beans! but I also have tofu

> >> ( thanks to

> >> Cinzia who is teaching me) Hope you get lots of other ideas.

> >>

> >> also do have a look in Files, top left - Heather put a brilliant

> list

> >> in there with protein values in it.

> >>

> >>

> >>> .

> >>

> >>

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Hi Ceri and Mosaic,

 

Thanks for the info. I was able to find the Files lists. But I am

confused. How do you get enough protein from vegetarian food? I couldn't

eat that much. I would like to eat more veg foods, but now live mostly on

fish.

 

Breakfast is usually cottage cheese chives tomato on 3 rice cakes; tin of

salmon mashed with little marg, chives, parsley, black pepper on 3 rice

cakes; or pea protein powder with milk, water and now banana, blueberries,

and kiwi fruit. Very pleased about the last one as I haven't been able to

eat fruit for years. Maybe one day I will be able to eat bread again.

 

Anyway thats all for now, thanks for help.

 

Pat uk

 

 

 

 

Hello Pat.

>

> I forgot about the fish - I do eat fish sometimes if I feel I need

> something more - the same amount of protein seems to do more for me

> both with fish and eggs.

>

> To get to the list of proteins, try this:

> - First go to the homepage (probably by going to

> , then looking through your list of " My Groups " on

> the left-hand side).

> - Once you're on the home page for the list, there is a pale blue box

> on the left of your screen with a list of places to go. Files is

> about the 4th option on that list. Click on it.

> - Now you get the list of files coming up. You can click on any of

> them to look at them. The list I found (assuming it's the right one)

> is entitled " List of Vegetarian Protein Sources " and is the 4th file

> in the list.

>

> I hope this is step-by-step enough. I always seem to waffle a bit

> however " simply " I try to explain things!

>

> Good luck with your step one, and hope you are feeling well.

> Best wishes, Ceri :o)

>

>

>

>

>

> On 9 Nov 2007, at 19:41, patmatthews wrote:

>

>> Hi Ceri and all.

>>

>> I havent written before, just been looking at emails. I have adrenal

>> fatigue and most things at the moment are too much. I am on step 1,

>> and

>> been mostly vegetarian in the past, but too get the protein I am now

>> eating fish. Please can you tell me where to look for Heather's

>> list of

>> protein in files. I have searched everywhere but I can't find it

>> anywhere. Please let me know wtep by step. Sorry, but otherwise I

>> won't

>> be able to find it.

>>

>> Thanks again,

>>

>> Pat uk>

>>

>> Thanks for replying to this Mosaic. It took me a while to find that

>> > post and the file on protein amounts (I get regular e-mails with

>> > everybody's posts and sometimes get mixed up using the group page

>> > instead!) I've worked that out now though - thank you!

>> >

>> > Kathleen's post seems to say what I was basing my thoughts on (from

>> > the normal guidelines) about using only dense proteins to add up

>> your

>> > protein amount. It's very handy to have that list for reference. I

>> > think I'll be making one of my own too with the foods that I like to

>> > eat. I have a question though. We use dairy and eggs a lot, as well

>> > as some nuts, soy, " faux meats " and now the lentils. We figured that

>> > pulses were a decent dense protein food, and I was pleasantly

>> > surprised at how much protein there is in them. We have a lot of

>> > experimenting to do there with beans and peas, as we've not been

>> > extremely keen on them in the past, but are sure that they must all

>> > be quite different and that there must be so many different ways of

>> > using them that we're bound to find foods that we like. Plus our

>> > tastes are changing somewhat! Anyway, my question is about grains

>> > and yogurt /milk (at least the soy variety). I didn't think these

>> > could be included in the protein count, but are on this list, so I

>> > just wanted to check that. The grains I'd use as my brown anyway,

>> but

>> > wondered especially about the yogurt. Somebody said they'd had it

>> > explained to them that if you can't hold it in your hand then it's

>> > not a dense protein, and yoghurt's a bit runny! I think it's just

>> the

>> > soy yoghurt and soy milk that are mentioned, and they may be a bit

>> > different, I don't know! Any clarification?

>> >

>> > I need to try tofu too sometime. We really liked the idea of making

>> > tofu from homemade soymilk. I was worried about using too much soy

>> > though, especially with five children eating along with me (we

>> > normally eat the same thing), so wanted to get other options sorted

>> > first. I should see if we like it first I should think too (!),

>> > although maybe home-made tastes different as with most things. You

>> > said Cinzia was helping you out with that - is that with making it,

>> > using it, or both?

>> >

>> > Okay, information overload here, but one last thing. You asked what

>> > step I'm on. I'm about to move onto step 2 (just thinking about it

>> > for a while first! Everyone else are pretty steady on breakfast too,

>> > but I'll leave them there while I carry on. Saying that, we cut

>> sugar

>> > out 6 months ago having increased the protein, and were already

>> > eating whole grains so just made sure it was all of the time. No, I

>> > know that's not how it should be done, but it was an emergency

>> > measure at the time and we're so glad we did. Now having some of our

>> > challenges lifted a little through doing that and other things I'm

>> > working on, we are more able to go steadily through the steps. So

>> > basically we already eat regular meals, on time, with snacks when we

>> > remember for me and the children (I'm breastfeeding our youngest)

>> and

>> > with whole grain and protein amounts. We enjoy our meals, and can

>> > often see how we have gone off track or are going to and are growing

>> > quite a lot more intuitive as to listening to our bodies and

>> > understanding our needs. I hadn't liked the idea of journalling much

>> > before (couldn't cope with the mental requirements for it anyway

>> > before now), but it seems quite exciting in terms of helping me to

>> > see even more what things are affecting me and how, and working on

>> > understanding my body more. Having made those slight adjustments,

>> and

>> > having such great benefit from them, we're not going back, but are

>> > now stepping more slowly through the steps in order. So I'll say I'm

>> > going on to step 2, but my meals are all program-friendly for later

>> > on! I'm waffling - shows me that I need to be in bed!

>> >

>> > Thanks again for your help, Ceri :o)

>> >

>> >>

>> >> you'll be glad to know that doing the steps as a vegetarian is

>> >> uncomplicated. Its exactly the same! I found a Kathleens post

>> 1808 (

>> >> pop it into the search top left to turn it up) very reassuring. Its

>> >> just a case of counting the protein grams in dense proteins.

>> >>

>> >> so my store cupboard is stuffed with beans as thats what I like

>> best

>> >> and my journal says I thrive on beans! but I also have tofu

>> >> ( thanks to

>> >> Cinzia who is teaching me) Hope you get lots of other ideas.

>> >>

>> >> also do have a look in Files, top left - Heather put a brilliant

>> list

>> >> in there with protein values in it.

>> >>

>> >>

>> >>> .

>> >>

>> >>

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

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hello Pat

yes you are right - I do find it a challenge getting enough protein

when choosing vegetarian meals! but its fun playing with it to get it

right - I combine different proteins. Relying on beans is too much

volume, so I'll add cheese topping for instance. Protein powder is a

boon at breakfast.

 

Thanksgiving so everyone will be busy today but hopefully you will

find more answers when the holiday is over and calm descends!

 

Meanwhile, are you getting enough breakfast protein do you think?

Three rice cakes enough brown? and are youhappy with the 4 parts of

breakfast? Glad your shake experiments are a success.

mosaic

 

 

 

 

, patmatthews wrote:

>

> Hi Ceri and Mosaic,

>

> Thanks for the info. I was able to find the Files lists. But I am

> confused. How do you get enough protein from vegetarian food? I

couldn't

> eat that much. I would like to eat more veg foods, but now live

mostly on

> fish.

>

> Breakfast is usually cottage cheese chives tomato on 3 rice cakes;

tin of

> salmon mashed with little marg, chives, parsley, black pepper on 3

rice

> cakes; or pea protein powder with milk, water and now banana,

blueberries,

> and kiwi fruit. Very pleased about the last one as I haven't been

able to

> eat fruit for years. Maybe one day I will be able to eat bread

again.

>

> Anyway thats all for now, thanks for help.

>

> Pat uk

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