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Message: 2 Sat, 15 May 2004 23:47:47 +0000 "Catherine Harris" <cait2Re: Fwd: Ami vegan cat food at VeggiePets.comhi jo and everyonei can already sometimes smell someone who eats a lot of dairy.......and i know when i became vegan i now smell diffrent.....the dairy sometimes smelt like well errrrrrrrrm vomit to be frank.........yuch i know........apparently in china they used to say they could smell a westerner because of the dairy downwindcatherine

I believe it. Dairy is very stagnating if you know what I mean. It makes a ripe environment for bacteria and all kind of things...it is definitely not cleansing. That is so interesting the comment by the Chinese. Americans could themselve a big favor, if not for the animals, but just themselves by letting go of dairy. I think it would improve our appearance as well.

 

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You could try a combination of Almond and Rice milk. Which is what we

use in our cereal. I use 1/2 of the vanilla flavored almond as it has

a sweet flavor and is a bit creamier than rice, with 1/2 plain rice

milk. I sweeten my cereal with a little organic pure maple syrup

instead of sugar. It's really good once you get used to it not being

as thick as dairy milk...but then you don't get any of the mucus from

the dairy milk either. It's also much easier on your digestive

system. Also...Cheerios is a good substitute for those pre-sweetened

cereals. It's a staple in our Vegan home.

Meb Harris

 

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For the past year dairy or lactose was giving me problems with my digestive

system and

having a negative impact on my immune system as well.

 

Aside from working the steps of the program for the past several years, getting

off dairy has

been extremly difficult. The past couple of months has taken so much more

energy then I

could have imagined. It's nice to feel good again and be dairy free in all

respects.

 

Just wanted to let everyone know.

 

Bob

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Congratulations Bob! I haven't eaten dairy for several years. It made a big

difference my energy levels and the general happiness of my stomach. I wouldn't

dream of eating it now.

 

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Bob <yogabob7 wrote:

For the past year dairy or lactose was giving me problems with my

digestive system and

having a negative impact on my immune system as well.

 

Aside from working the steps of the program for the past several years, getting

off dairy has

been extremly difficult. The past couple of months has taken so much more energy

then I

could have imagined. It's nice to feel good again and be dairy free in all

respects.

 

Just wanted to let everyone know.

 

Bob

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Hi Bob,

 

Oh I'm glad you found what works for you and are feeling good again. It's so

important! :)

 

Tina

 

 

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Dairy

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

For the past year dairy or lactose was giving me problems with my

digestive system and

 

having a negative impact on my immune system as well.

 

 

 

Aside from working the steps of the program for the past several years, getting

off dairy has

 

been extremly difficult. The past couple of months has taken so much more

energy then I

 

could have imagined. It's nice to feel good again and be dairy free in all

respects.

 

 

 

Just wanted to let everyone know.

 

 

 

Bob

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Congratulations, Bob! Even if it affects us negatively, some food is

just so hard to get away from sometimes. I hope you continue to feel

better and better. Cinzia

 

 

 

, " Bob " <yogabob7 wrote:

>

> For the past year dairy or lactose was giving me problems with my

digestive system and

> having a negative impact on my immune system as well.

>

> Aside from working the steps of the program for the past several

years, getting off dairy has

> been extremly difficult. The past couple of months has taken so

much more energy then I

> could have imagined. It's nice to feel good again and be dairy free

in all respects.

>

> Just wanted to let everyone know.

>

> Bob

>

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nice work Bob

Part of the brilliance of step 7 is that we can work with our bodies

clearly, without the rest of the noise going on!

 

so good to focus on the positives, glad you feel well!

mosaic

 

 

 

, " Bob " <yogabob7 wrote:

>

> For the past year dairy or lactose was giving me problems with my

digestive system and

> having a negative impact on my immune system as well.

>

> Aside from working the steps of the program for the past several

years, getting off dairy has

> been extremly difficult. The past couple of months has taken so

much more energy then I

> could have imagined. It's nice to feel good again and be dairy

free in all respects.

>

> Just wanted to let everyone know.

>

> Bob

>

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Like I said, I'm sure its a subject that people have strong feelings about, so I

probably should not have expressed my views. I'm sure that conditions for cows

are far from being humane, but I feel it is abominable that there are people who

are living in refugee camps with no clean water, disease, etc. I'm not saying

that the dairy industry is OK, because I agree with you it is certainly not,

commercial milk is not healthy. But what a pity that the resources that go into

dairy " farming " cannot be channeled to those less fortunate, who would be happy

to live off a calorie rich and varied vegetarian diet. Daphne

BTW, I'm now eating eggs that come from my friends ranch where I must say they

are very happy and free to roam chickens, and if I could get milk straight from

the cow, Id probably do that too.

 

 

Well, I for one am concerned about what dairy is doing to my health

and the health of others (i.e. Children) in America (as a result of

those antibiotics and bovine growth hormone that the FDA has now

allowed the dairy industry to NOT mark on the product). As an

allergy sufferer I am hoping that nixing the dairy will have a

positive effect.

 

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Hi D,

 

I totally agree with you. I was just wondering which 3 specific

countries you were talking about that you mentioned in your original

post? I apologize if I come off sounding strong or whatever. I am

new to this way of life and I'm sure that there is much for me to

learn.

 

I would LOVE to have eggs like your getting. If it's working for you

then go girl!!

 

Cheers,

Ginger

 

, Daphne Barton

<daphnebarton wrote:

>

> Like I said, I'm sure its a subject that people have strong

feelings about, so I probably should not have expressed my views. I'm

sure that conditions for cows are far from being humane, but I feel

it is abominable that there are people who are living in refugee

camps with no clean water, disease, etc. I'm not saying that the

dairy industry is OK, because I agree with you it is certainly not,

commercial milk is not healthy. But what a pity that the resources

that go into dairy " farming " cannot be channeled to those less

fortunate, who would be happy to live off a calorie rich and varied

vegetarian diet. Daphne

> BTW, I'm now eating eggs that come from my friends ranch where I

must say they are very happy and free to roam chickens, and if I

could get milk straight from the cow, Id probably do that too.

>

>

> Well, I for one am concerned about what dairy is doing to

my health

> and the health of others (i.e. Children) in America (as a result of

> those antibiotics and bovine growth hormone that the FDA has now

> allowed the dairy industry to NOT mark on the product). As an

> allergy sufferer I am hoping that nixing the dairy will have a

> positive effect.

>

> [excessive quotes deleted by moderator]

>

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Thanks G. I'm new to this too, so I know that this is not necessarily a sounding

board for our varied ethical views, but hey we gotta start somewhere! D ps Im

loving all the support and positive posts on this board, it gives me alot of

encouragement when the going gets tough.

 

Ginger <gingerdphillips wrote: Hi D,

 

I totally agree with you. I was just wondering which 3 specific

countries you were talking about that you mentioned in your original

post? I apologize if I come off sounding strong or whatever. I am

new to this way of life and I'm sure that there is much for me to

learn.

 

I would LOVE to have eggs like your getting. If it's working for you

then go girl!!

 

Cheers,

Ginger

 

, Daphne Barton

<daphnebarton wrote:

>

> Like I said, I'm sure its a subject that people have strong

feelings about, so I probably should not have expressed my views. I'm

sure that conditions for cows are far from being humane, but I feel

it is abominable that there are people who are living in refugee

camps with no clean water, disease, etc. I'm not saying that the

dairy industry is OK, because I agree with you it is certainly not,

commercial milk is not healthy. But what a pity that the resources

that go into dairy " farming " cannot be channeled to those less

fortunate, who would be happy to live off a calorie rich and varied

vegetarian diet. Daphne

> BTW, I'm now eating eggs that come from my friends ranch where I

must say they are very happy and free to roam chickens, and if I

could get milk straight from the cow, Id probably do that too.

>

>

> Well, I for one am concerned about what dairy is doing to

my health

> and the health of others (i.e. Children) in America (as a result of

> those antibiotics and bovine growth hormone that the FDA has now

> allowed the dairy industry to NOT mark on the product). As an

> allergy sufferer I am hoping that nixing the dairy will have a

> positive effect.

>

> [excessive quotes deleted by moderator]

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

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> Im loving all the support

> and positive posts on this board, it gives me

> alot of encouragement when the going gets

> tough.

 

So glad you find it helpful!!!! *hug* We're here,

as you suggest, to support whichever choice

(vegetarian or vegan) a member has made or is

trying to make. AND we're here to encourage you

in finding a way to lose weight, if that's why

you're here :)

 

Love and hugs, Pat

 

 

 

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