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I was thinking - I know we have a few new members lately - and it would

be so lovely to hear from you.

 

so dont be shy - you are invited to post an introduction, say a hello,

ask a question or if anything has got your interest, a comment.

 

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Hi, I only just joined....a couple of days ago I came across the radiant

health website and was immediately taken with the approach. I read for

hours! I started with the 7 steps and am trying not to jump too far

ahead. I already eat breakfast...but as a mostly vegetarian I have

struggled with getting enough protein. I worked out I need about 20-22

grams of protein a meal, and I thought that would be impossible but so

far, with some awareness and calculations, it's not impossible at all. I

tried to do a low carb high protein diet as a vegetarian once...low carb

makes me feel absolutely awful...so I find this approach much better

suited to me, allowing complex carbs, and in just a couple of days I

find I have more energy.

I am not particularly overweight though my weight has crept up a little

over Christmas and I would like to get a grip on my sugar addiction...I

know that is the only thing that makes me gain weight.

I am trying to do the first three steps...I already eat three meals and

breakfast, so I am mainly counting protein and writing down what I eat.

I did have a potato 2 nights ago before bed and woke up feeling good,

but I probably need to establish the first 3 steps first before

committing to that. I am one of those gung ho people who then crash and

burn!

I am in Perth, Australia....so hi from over here where the days have

been over 40 degrees celsius (well over 100F) for way too often lately.

thanks for having me here

Peela

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Welcome, Peela! So nice to have you here.

 

You'll find lots of support here and on the Community Forum. Sounds

to me like you're off to a great start.

 

Do you know the 4 parts of breakfast?

* enough protein for your weight (you know this one!)

* with a complex carbohydrate

* within an hour of getting out of bed

* every day.

 

You can baby-step it. That is, you can work your way toward having

enough protein by adding a bit each day. You can do the same having

your breakfast within an hour (getting closer and closer each day) --

for some folks, this is very challenging.

 

Whew, your weather sounds HOT. I " m in the northern hemisphere (in

California in the U.S.), so we're getting cold rain. I bet you'd

like some of that right now, eh? cheers, Cinzia

 

, peela <peela wrote:

>

> Hi, I only just joined....a couple of days ago I came across the

radiant

> health website and was immediately taken with the approach. I read

for

> hours! I started with the 7 steps and am trying not to jump too

far

> ahead. I already eat breakfast...but as a mostly vegetarian I have

> struggled with getting enough protein. I worked out I need about

20-22

> grams of protein a meal, and I thought that would be impossible

but so

> far, with some awareness and calculations, it's not impossible at

all. I

> tried to do a low carb high protein diet as a vegetarian

once...low carb

> makes me feel absolutely awful...so I find this approach much

better

> suited to me, allowing complex carbs, and in just a couple of days

I

> find I have more energy.

> I am not particularly overweight though my weight has crept up a

little

> over Christmas and I would like to get a grip on my sugar

addiction...I

> know that is the only thing that makes me gain weight.

> I am trying to do the first three steps...I already eat three

meals and

> breakfast, so I am mainly counting protein and writing down what I

eat.

> I did have a potato 2 nights ago before bed and woke up feeling

good,

> but I probably need to establish the first 3 steps first before

> committing to that. I am one of those gung ho people who then

crash and

> burn!

> I am in Perth, Australia....so hi from over here where the days

have

> been over 40 degrees celsius (well over 100F) for way too often

lately.

> thanks for having me here

> Peela

>

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Hi Peela,

 

Welcome! I was immediately taken with the RR approach as well. It really is an

amazing program.

 

It's wonderful that you are already feeling more energy. Especially in 100

degree weather! I can't imagine!!

 

So, what are you doing for breakfast these days? I usually have a protein shake

and a spelt bagel.

 

Tina

 

 

 

 

peela

Wed, 9 Jan 2008 06:19:45 +0800

Re:New members - go on -please post!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hi, I only just joined....a couple of days ago I came across the

radiant

 

health website and was immediately taken with the approach. I read for

 

hours! I started with the 7 steps and am trying not to jump too far

 

ahead. I already eat breakfast...but as a mostly vegetarian I have

 

struggled with getting enough protein. I worked out I need about 20-22

 

grams of protein a meal, and I thought that would be impossible but so

 

far, with some awareness and calculations, it's not impossible at all. I

 

tried to do a low carb high protein diet as a vegetarian once...low carb

 

makes me feel absolutely awful...so I find this approach much better

 

suited to me, allowing complex carbs, and in just a couple of days I

 

find I have more energy.

 

I am not particularly overweight though my weight has crept up a little

 

over Christmas and I would like to get a grip on my sugar addiction...I

 

know that is the only thing that makes me gain weight.

 

I am trying to do the first three steps...I already eat three meals and

 

breakfast, so I am mainly counting protein and writing down what I eat.

 

I did have a potato 2 nights ago before bed and woke up feeling good,

 

but I probably need to establish the first 3 steps first before

 

committing to that. I am one of those gung ho people who then crash and

 

burn!

 

I am in Perth, Australia....so hi from over here where the days have

 

been over 40 degrees celsius (well over 100F) for way too often lately.

 

thanks for having me here

 

Peela

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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lovely to see you Peela

lots of us know all about gung-ho and crash and burn:)

myself I thought 6 steps at once sounded reasonable - then I learned

what breakfast was all about!

 

so - do you have something a bit cooling? here in UK it is rib-

sticking porridge or something we need at the moment Brrrr

whats your favourite breakfast?

mosaic

 

 

 

 

 

, peela <peela wrote:

>

> Hi, I only just joined....a couple of days ago I came across the

radiant

> health website and was immediately taken with the approach. I read

for

> hours! I started with the 7 steps and am trying not to jump too far

> ahead. I already eat breakfast...but as a mostly vegetarian I have

> struggled with getting enough protein. I worked out I need about 20-

22

> grams of protein a meal, and I thought that would be impossible but

so

> far, with some awareness and calculations, it's not impossible at

all. I

> tried to do a low carb high protein diet as a vegetarian once...low

carb

> makes me feel absolutely awful...so I find this approach much

better

> suited to me, allowing complex carbs, and in just a couple of days

I

> find I have more energy.

> I am not particularly overweight though my weight has crept up a

little

> over Christmas and I would like to get a grip on my sugar

addiction...I

> know that is the only thing that makes me gain weight.

> I am trying to do the first three steps...I already eat three meals

and

> breakfast, so I am mainly counting protein and writing down what I

eat.

> I did have a potato 2 nights ago before bed and woke up feeling

good,

> but I probably need to establish the first 3 steps first before

> committing to that. I am one of those gung ho people who then crash

and

> burn!

> I am in Perth, Australia....so hi from over here where the days

have

> been over 40 degrees celsius (well over 100F) for way too often

lately.

> thanks for having me here

> Peela

>

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Hi everyone I am a new member. I have never been a member before so

I am

still finding my way around the site.

I read the book about 5 years ago and it really resounded with me. I took on

some of the

main principles but was not emotionally in the right space to structure my life

to all the

steps at the time. After a year long binge of sugar where I felt food was truly

controlling

my life and I gained 10kg I am now at a stage where I feel ready to take

control of this.

I am almost too scared to post on here because I have not taken my time to do

the steps

as advised. I feel unable to control what and when I eat, when sugar is in my

diet, so I have

practically eliminated it over the past 9 days. I was already eating breakfast

with protein

and journalling - I have upped my protein at my other meals, cut out snacks,

started

cooking from scratch and exercising. If I have felt hungry I have been eating

nuts but I

have had virtually no sugar cravings which is amazing. I am feeling very in

control of my

eating for the first time in ages. I know from experience that the start of a

new eating

pattern is often exciting and easy as you notice the benefits but, it can soon

become

normal and the novelty wears off which makes it hard to stick too. Hopefully my

awareness

of this will help me stay motivated over the next couple of weeks, months,

years.

I have also stopped drinking alcohol which was probably the thing that prevented

me from

doing the food previously. Alcohol has always been an important part of my

social life so

this is actually the scariest change for me at the moment.

Anyway I was cruising along fine until last night when I got home from the gym

feeling

more exhausted than usual. Over the night my mood and energy levels crashed and

I woke

up feeling really depressed which is unusual for me. I have had periods of

feeling

depressed before but never so low so suddenly. I have slept all morning and am

still in

bed but was wondering if any of you have experienced anything like this when

reducing

your sugar. Is this normal? I realise this is a long email but it would be great

to get some

feedback....

Lisar

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Lisa,

 

Welcome! What you're describing is common when people cut out sugar too

quickly. You said you've read the book 5 years ago. Have you taken another

whack at it? Kathleen describes in detail the biochemistry behind why, when

people take out sugars too quickly, the quickly crash. Basically sugar (and

alcohol) increases beta endorphins - which are chemicals in your brain that make

you feel happy and in control. When you take out sugar without healing your

brain, your body gets very unhappy. The steps are what balances beta

endorphins. Only doing them very slowly can you actually heal your brain and so

when you go off sugar and alcohol it's no big deal at all.

 

And this isn't just coming from Kathleen's book. I was one of those who did

the steps quickly - half a dozen times. I'd do them all at once, take out

sugar, feel really bad, start eating sugar again, complete the steps in a week

and start over. It was a horrible roller coaster of up and down. Then I

finally started going really slow. If you've just started, the one and only

thing you need to worry about is breakfast. I too already ate a 'good'

breakfast when I came to radiant recovery, but it was still beneficial for me to

focus just on getting the four parts down to where I didn't have to think about

them. I know it's frustrating to go slow, but this is about a change for life,

so really you have the time and believe me, you won't have to feel that place of

utter dispair that comes from imbalanced brain chemistry.

 

Jess CO

 

lisarail <lisarail wrote:

Hi everyone I am a new member. I have never been a member

before so I am

still finding my way around the site.

I read the book about 5 years ago and it really resounded with me. I took on

some of the

main principles but was not emotionally in the right space to structure my life

to all the

steps at the time. After a year long binge of sugar where I felt food was truly

controlling

my life and I gained 10kg I am now at a stage where I feel ready to take control

of this.

I am almost too scared to post on here because I have not taken my time to do

the steps

as advised. I feel unable to control what and when I eat, when sugar is in my

diet, so I have

practically eliminated it over the past 9 days. I was already eating breakfast

with protein

and journalling - I have upped my protein at my other meals, cut out snacks,

started

cooking from scratch and exercising. If I have felt hungry I have been eating

nuts but I

have had virtually no sugar cravings which is amazing. I am feeling very in

control of my

eating for the first time in ages. I know from experience that the start of a

new eating

pattern is often exciting and easy as you notice the benefits but, it can soon

become

normal and the novelty wears off which makes it hard to stick too. Hopefully my

awareness

of this will help me stay motivated over the next couple of weeks, months,

years.

I have also stopped drinking alcohol which was probably the thing that prevented

me from

doing the food previously. Alcohol has always been an important part of my

social life so

this is actually the scariest change for me at the moment.

Anyway I was cruising along fine until last night when I got home from the gym

feeling

more exhausted than usual. Over the night my mood and energy levels crashed and

I woke

up feeling really depressed which is unusual for me. I have had periods of

feeling

depressed before but never so low so suddenly. I have slept all morning and am

still in

bed but was wondering if any of you have experienced anything like this when

reducing

your sugar. Is this normal? I realise this is a long email but it would be great

to get some

feedback....

Lisar

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Hi Lisar,

 

Welcome! I will echo what Jess said. I too took sugar out very quickly and

experienced horrible withdrawal. It didn't work for me very well!

 

I think the greatest gift I ever gave myself was giving RR a chance. I decided

to read the books, join the lists, and do the steps slowly and take others'

guidance. i have been doing RR for 2 years now and I've been on step 7 for the

last year. When I started with a beginner's mind and went slow, the process

worked just like Kathleen said it would. Things are really good today!

 

Any chance we can help you with just focusing on breakfast right now? :)

 

Tina

 

 

 

 

lisarail

Wed, 9 Jan 2008 14:59:37 +0000

Re:New members - go on -please post!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hi everyone I am a new member. I have never been a

member before so I am

 

still finding my way around the site.

 

I read the book about 5 years ago and it really resounded with me. I took on

some of the

 

main principles but was not emotionally in the right space to structure my life

to all the

 

steps at the time. After a year long binge of sugar where I felt food was truly

controlling

 

my life and I gained 10kg I am now at a stage where I feel ready to take

control of this.

 

I am almost too scared to post on here because I have not taken my time to do

the steps

 

as advised. I feel unable to control what and when I eat, when sugar is in my

diet, so I have

 

practically eliminated it over the past 9 days. I was already eating breakfast

with protein

 

and journalling - I have upped my protein at my other meals, cut out snacks,

started

 

cooking from scratch and exercising. If I have felt hungry I have been eating

nuts but I

 

have had virtually no sugar cravings which is amazing. I am feeling very in

control of my

 

eating for the first time in ages. I know from experience that the start of a

new eating

 

pattern is often exciting and easy as you notice the benefits but, it can soon

become

 

normal and the novelty wears off which makes it hard to stick too. Hopefully my

awareness

 

of this will help me stay motivated over the next couple of weeks, months,

years.

 

I have also stopped drinking alcohol which was probably the thing that prevented

me from

 

doing the food previously. Alcohol has always been an important part of my

social life so

 

this is actually the scariest change for me at the moment.

 

Anyway I was cruising along fine until last night when I got home from the gym

feeling

 

more exhausted than usual. Over the night my mood and energy levels crashed and

I woke

 

up feeling really depressed which is unusual for me. I have had periods of

feeling

 

depressed before but never so low so suddenly. I have slept all morning and am

still in

 

bed but was wondering if any of you have experienced anything like this when

reducing

 

your sugar. Is this normal? I realise this is a long email but it would be great

to get some

 

feedback....

 

Lisar

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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<<So, what are you doing for breakfast these days?>>

 

First morning I had an omelette with cheese, olives, fresh herbs. 2nd

morning I had a protein smoothie with a raw egg and protein powder,

yoghurt and juice- forgot the banana but it still tasted good. I havent

had breakfast yet today....yes, having it within an hour of getting up

is going to be fine some days, but I am an early riser and often go for

long walks or meditate in the mornings...I will have to reconsider

having breakfast beforehand sometimes.

I generally have three cups of tea on the morning...none for the rest of

the day..with whole, raw milk, so that gives me several grams of protein

as well. Is there anything about caffeine in the book? I haven't read

the book yet.

thanks for the welcome

Peela

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Hi Lisar,

 

I am delighted you are here.

 

If you are 9 days in from doing all this, and going off of alcohol, I

am not surprised you crashed.

 

I wonder if you might write me and we can do a little problem solving

on that piece.

 

warmly,

kathleen

On Jan 9, 2008, at 9:59 AM, lisarail wrote:

 

> Hi everyone I am a new member. I have never been a

> member before so I am

> still finding my way around the site.

> I read the book about 5 years ago and it really resounded with me. I

> took on some of the

> main principles but was not emotionally in the right space to

> structure my life to all the

> steps at the time. After a year long binge of sugar where I felt

> food was truly controlling

> my life and I gained 10kg I am now at a stage where I feel ready to

> take control of this.

> I am almost too scared to post on here because I have not taken my

> time to do the steps

> as advised. I feel unable to control what and when I eat, when sugar

> is in my diet, so I have

> practically eliminated it over the past 9 days. I was already eating

> breakfast with protein

> and journalling - I have upped my protein at my other meals, cut out

> snacks, started

> cooking from scratch and exercising. If I have felt hungry I have

> been eating nuts but I

> have had virtually no sugar cravings which is amazing. I am feeling

> very in control of my

> eating for the first time in ages. I know from experience that the

> start of a new eating

> pattern is often exciting and easy as you notice the benefits but,

> it can soon become

> normal and the novelty wears off which makes it hard to stick too.

> Hopefully my awareness

> of this will help me stay motivated over the next couple of weeks,

> months, years.

> I have also stopped drinking alcohol which was probably the thing

> that prevented me from

> doing the food previously. Alcohol has always been an important part

> of my social life so

> this is actually the scariest change for me at the moment.

> Anyway I was cruising along fine until last night when I got home

> from the gym feeling

> more exhausted than usual. Over the night my mood and energy levels

> crashed and I woke

> up feeling really depressed which is unusual for me. I have had

> periods of feeling

> depressed before but never so low so suddenly. I have slept all

> morning and am still in

> bed but was wondering if any of you have experienced anything like

> this when reducing

> your sugar. Is this normal? I realise this is a long email but it

> would be great to get some

> feedback....

> Lisar

>

>

>

>

>

> http://www.radiantrecovery.com

>

> http://www.radiantrecoverystore.com/

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> http://www.radiantrecovery.com/classes.htm

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Hi Peela,

 

We don't actually count the protein in milk because it's not a " dense " protein

and so it can't hold us steady the way non-liquid foods do. It's fine that you

have it, obviously, just don't include it in your calculations of how much

protein you've had.

 

I also walk first thing in the morning, so I'm sure to have my breakfast shake

as soon as I get back, which puts me right at the edge of the hour mark. I've

found that my body has really gotten accustomed to the timeliness of breakfast.

I'm sure you will find a routine that works for you AND nurtures your body as

well.

 

Are you having any whole grains with your breakfasts?

 

Bright blessings,

Sharon

 

 

 

peela <peela

 

Wednesday, January 9, 2008 2:37:12 PM

Re: New members - go on -please post!

 

<<So, what are you doing for breakfast these days?>>

 

First morning I had an omelette with cheese, olives, fresh herbs. 2nd

morning I had a protein smoothie with a raw egg and protein powder,

yoghurt and juice- forgot the banana but it still tasted good. I havent

had breakfast yet today....yes, having it within an hour of getting up

is going to be fine some days, but I am an early riser and often go for

long walks or meditate in the mornings...I will have to reconsider

having breakfast beforehand sometimes.

I generally have three cups of tea on the morning...none for the rest of

the day..with whole, raw milk, so that gives me several grams of protein

as well. Is there anything about caffeine in the book? I haven't read

the book yet.

thanks for the welcome

Peela

 

 

 

 

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Hi Peela,

 

That sounds like a delicious omelette!! One other piece of breakfast (in

addition to having it with adequate protein, within an hour and every day) is

having a complex carb with breakfast. So that'd be anything like whole grain

bread, oatmeal, a whole grain bagel, baked potato, brown rice, truly anything

you would like to have! The whole grains or " browns " as we call them are so

vital to hold me 5 hours til lunch and keep my brain balanced. :)

 

Tina

 

 

 

 

peela

Thu, 10 Jan 2008 06:37:12 +0800

Re: New members - go on -please post!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

<<So, what are you doing for breakfast these days?>>

 

 

 

First morning I had an omelette with cheese, olives, fresh herbs. 2nd

 

morning I had a protein smoothie with a raw egg and protein powder,

 

yoghurt and juice- forgot the banana but it still tasted good. I havent

 

had breakfast yet today....yes, having it within an hour of getting up

 

is going to be fine some days, but I am an early riser and often go for

 

long walks or meditate in the mornings...I will have to reconsider

 

having breakfast beforehand sometimes.

 

I generally have three cups of tea on the morning...none for the rest of

 

the day..with whole, raw milk, so that gives me several grams of protein

 

as well. Is there anything about caffeine in the book? I haven't read

 

the book yet.

 

thanks for the welcome

 

Peela

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Hi All,

 

I can't believe that I have been a member of R R for nearly a year. I

have been keeping steady at .5 on breakfast, have just started journaling,

and have 3 meals a day with protein anyway - it's just that it is very

hard to work it out with vegetarian bean stews etc. So if I am doing a

casserole of beans etc I just usually have as big a portion as I can

manage and hope its enough protein. I usually 'live' on fish as I can

monitor that better.

 

I was overweight when I joined RR, and since then I have put on another

stone! No-ones fault but mine. I am now trying to get that under control

as well, so reduced my protein to .4 - and crashed! When I first joined

RR my sugar cravings went erratic and into overload, but they have mostly

gone now.

 

Any advice would be most sincerely welcome.

 

Thanks

 

Pat uk

 

 

I was thinking - I know we have a few new members lately - and it would

> be so lovely to hear from you.

>

> so dont be shy - you are invited to post an introduction, say a hello,

> ask a question or if anything has got your interest, a comment.

>

> love mosaic

>

>

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<<We don't actually count the protein in milk because it's not a " dense "

protein and so it can't hold us steady the way non-liquid foods do>>

 

Oops, ok, didn't know that, the book is on its way! Gosh, and I was

thinking this was pretty easy. Without counting milk protein I am back

to the drawing board, and I definitely need to just stay with step one

for a while and work on breakfast. I tried to eat 2 eggs on toast 2

mornings ago and I couldn't finish the 2nd one....I often have one egg

on toast and manage that fine but I was gagging on two. Wierd. So now I

need to really work on finding breakfasts I can stomach in the morning.

I find cottage cheese nice and light. I already eat lots of nuts. The

'brown' is easy..I eat very good sprouted bread.

I think i am gong to have to spend an hour and write down suggestions

for myself.

I am finding this online community very useful, thankyou.

peela

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Peela, you can break down any step in to " baby steps " . What we mean by that is

you work

on one aspect of the step at one time, even a teeny tiny aspect <smile>.

 

For you for breakfast, you might want to gradually increase the amount of food

you have.

You don't have to do it all at once. Keep going and add a little bit one day,

see if you can

maintain that amount for several days, add a little more, see if you can

maintain that

amount, etc.

 

And you've already come up with ideas for other foods that might suit you better

--

cottage cheese (I eat it often for breakfast).

 

Another idea is protein powder. I use George's Restore, which was developed by

Dr.

Kathleen and is lovely (it can be purchased from the Radiant Recovery online

store). I've

also used other protein powders.

 

Sometimes protein powder is easier for people to use as a protein. You can mix

it up in

milk, rice milk, nut milk, oat milk; you can also mix it into oatmeal/porridge.

You can use

it for your total protein requirement at breakfast for as part of it (for

example, you might

eat one egg, some toast, and a drink of rice milk with enough protein powder to

complete

your protein requirement).

 

The same is true for timing. Some folks have a hard time eating within an hour

of getting

out of bed, sometimes their bodies don't want it just yet. So they can try

eating as close to

an hour after getting up then gradually try eating earlier and earlier -- maybe

they can

only manage 5 minutes sooner at first. That's okay!

 

Does this help? I don't recall if you've joined the breakfast list. It's a

great place for ideas

and support!! You don't have to " leave " this list, you can join the breakfast

list, too.

They're a great group and have lots of fun. Cinzia

 

, peela <peela wrote:

>

> <<We don't actually count the protein in milk because it's not a " dense "

> protein and so it can't hold us steady the way non-liquid foods do>>

>

> Oops, ok, didn't know that, the book is on its way! Gosh, and I was

> thinking this was pretty easy. Without counting milk protein I am back

> to the drawing board, and I definitely need to just stay with step one

> for a while and work on breakfast. I tried to eat 2 eggs on toast 2

> mornings ago and I couldn't finish the 2nd one....I often have one egg

> on toast and manage that fine but I was gagging on two. Wierd. So now I

> need to really work on finding breakfasts I can stomach in the morning.

> I find cottage cheese nice and light. I already eat lots of nuts. The

> 'brown' is easy..I eat very good sprouted bread.

> I think i am gong to have to spend an hour and write down suggestions

> for myself.

> I am finding this online community very useful, thankyou.

> peela

>

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, peela <peela wrote:

>

> <<We don't actually count the protein in milk because it's not a

" dense "

> protein and so it can't hold us steady the way non-liquid foods do>>

>

> Oops, ok, didn't know that, the book is on its way! Gosh, and I was

> thinking this was pretty easy. Without counting milk protein I am back

> to the drawing board, and I definitely need to just stay with step one

> for a while and work on breakfast. I tried to eat 2 eggs on toast 2

> mornings ago and I couldn't finish the 2nd one....I often have one egg

> on toast and manage that fine but I was gagging on two. Wierd. So now

I

> need to really work on finding breakfasts I can stomach in the

morning.

> I find cottage cheese nice and light. I already eat lots of nuts. The

> 'brown' is easy..I eat very good sprouted bread.

> I think i am gong to have to spend an hour and write down suggestions

> for myself.

> I am finding this online community very useful, thankyou.

> peela

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lovely to read your post Pat. time flies doesnt it!

 

Do have a look in Files .> its over on the left in the blue box...

click on it and you'll see a great list of vegetarian protein sources.

I have my favourites written on my front journal pages, so I dont

have to work too hard!

 

I also have cup measures ( waitrose) so I can just scoop the beans

up, like a ladle, and its easy.

 

yes Ive done that crashy episode like you - I joined YLD. The classes

there helped me with that one!

 

what step would you say you are actually on, Pat? I see you have a

bit going on in there ! Which one is the solid one?

mosaic

 

 

 

 

, patmatthews wrote:

>

> Hi All,

>

> I can't believe that I have been a member of R R for nearly a

year. I

> have been keeping steady at .5 on breakfast, have just started

journaling,

> and have 3 meals a day with protein anyway - it's just that it is

very

> hard to work it out with vegetarian bean stews etc. So if I am

doing a

> casserole of beans etc I just usually have as big a portion as I can

> manage and hope its enough protein. I usually 'live' on fish as I

can

> monitor that better.

>

> I was overweight when I joined RR, and since then I have put on

another

> stone! No-ones fault but mine. I am now trying to get that under

control

> as well, so reduced my protein to .4 - and crashed! When I first

joined

> RR my sugar cravings went erratic and into overload, but they have

mostly

> gone now.

>

> Any advice would be most sincerely welcome.

>

> Thanks

>

> Pat uk

>

>

> I was thinking - I know we have a few new members lately - and it

would

> > be so lovely to hear from you.

> >

> > so dont be shy - you are invited to post an introduction, say a

hello,

> > ask a question or if anything has got your interest, a comment.

> >

> > love mosaic

> >

> >

>

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<<<Peela, you can break down any step in to " baby steps " . What we mean

by that is you work

on one aspect of the step at one time, even a teeny tiny aspect <smile>.>>

 

Gotcha, thanks. Such a strong tendency to want to jump ahead and do it

all. However, in fact, just having a decent breakfast with plenty of

protein is already helping me get through the day without reaching for

sugar. My energy is more stable. I don't have to do it " perfectly " at

first...just head in the right direction!

I knew protein was a key for me, and it is helping me watch what the

kids eat more, too. They are both sugar fiends although I have always

been restrictive, as they have got older I have allowed more..I was

horrified how much sugar their dad gave them for Christmas. He is a

sugar freak too!

But I need to change me first.

Peela

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Hi Pat-

 

Mosaic's suggestion of checking out proteins in the files section is probably

best. Getting enough protein and a good solid carb at breakfast is the bedrock

of my day. when I started I just worked on getting enough protein at first.

Doing a shake is an easy way to get plenty of it! Let us know what you figure

out. Lately I have been doing a shake using George's Restore protein powder

(sold in the rr store) with a spelt bagel each morning.

 

Tina

 

 

 

 

patmatthews

Fri, 11 Jan 2008 19:16:48 +0000

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Hi All,

 

 

 

I can't believe that I have been a member of R R for nearly a year. I

 

have been keeping steady at .5 on breakfast, have just started journaling,

 

and have 3 meals a day with protein anyway - it's just that it is very

 

hard to work it out with vegetarian bean stews etc. So if I am doing a

 

casserole of beans etc I just usually have as big a portion as I can

 

manage and hope its enough protein. I usually 'live' on fish as I can

 

monitor that better.

 

 

 

I was overweight when I joined RR, and since then I have put on another

 

stone! No-ones fault but mine. I am now trying to get that under control

 

as well, so reduced my protein to .4 - and crashed! When I first joined

 

RR my sugar cravings went erratic and into overload, but they have mostly

 

gone now.

 

 

 

Any advice would be most sincerely welcome.

 

 

 

Thanks

 

 

 

Pat uk

 

 

 

I was thinking - I know we have a few new members lately - and it would

 

> be so lovely to hear from you.

 

>

 

> so dont be shy - you are invited to post an introduction, say a hello,

 

> ask a question or if anything has got your interest, a comment.

 

>

 

> love mosaic

 

>

 

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Peela,

 

The dense protein thing often throws people for a loop. i was surprised by it at

first as well. But there is such wisdom in it!

 

My favorite veggie protein sources are protein powder, eggs, tempeh, and tofu.

They are the ones that really hold and sustain me well. protein shakes are great

when you're not used to eating a full breakfast. it was something that i had to

babystep myself into. after a while though, your metabolism heats up first thing

in the morning and you will be quite ready for a full meal! :)

 

tina

 

 

 

 

peela

Sat, 12 Jan 2008 09:44:01 +0800

Re: New members - go on -please post!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

<<We don't actually count the protein in milk because it's not a

" dense "

 

protein and so it can't hold us steady the way non-liquid foods do>>

 

 

 

Oops, ok, didn't know that, the book is on its way! Gosh, and I was

 

thinking this was pretty easy. Without counting milk protein I am back

 

to the drawing board, and I definitely need to just stay with step one

 

for a while and work on breakfast. I tried to eat 2 eggs on toast 2

 

mornings ago and I couldn't finish the 2nd one....I often have one egg

 

on toast and manage that fine but I was gagging on two. Wierd. So now I

 

need to really work on finding breakfasts I can stomach in the morning.

 

I find cottage cheese nice and light. I already eat lots of nuts. The

 

'brown' is easy..I eat very good sprouted bread.

 

I think i am gong to have to spend an hour and write down suggestions

 

for myself.

 

I am finding this online community very useful, thankyou.

 

peela

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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<<My favorite veggie protein sources are protein powder, eggs, tempeh,

and tofu. They are the ones that really hold and sustain me well.

protein shakes are great when you're not used to eating a full

breakfast. it was something that i had to babystep myself into. after a

while though, your metabolism heats up first thing in the morning and

you will be quite ready for a full meal! :) >>

 

Thanks Tina,

The last two mornings I have had one egg on toast, with a protein shake,

just over an hour after getting up, and it has been awesome, and doable,

and I feel full in a good way, and I am not hungry till lunchtime.

I am enjoying working on one thing at a time.

peela

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Hi. My name is Jennifer. I'm from Maine. I'm not a vegetarian, but

think I would be if I didn't live with (and cook for) meat-a-tarians.

My youngest daughter (age 8) is mostly a vegetarian. She doesn't eat

poultry or red meat, except for once a month (her rule, not mine).

She eats salmon, tuna, eggs, cheese, and peanut butter as her protein

sources. I wish I could get her to eat beans and rice, but not yet.

 

Anyway, thought I'd introduce myself, as I've been lurking lately.

 

Cheers,

Jennifer M.

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Oh peela, that's great! Working on one thing at a time makes it possible to make

permanent changes in a way that isn't overwhelming. Good for you!

 

Tina

 

 

 

 

peela

Tue, 15 Jan 2008 14:29:35 +0800

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<<My favorite veggie protein sources are protein powder, eggs,

tempeh,

 

and tofu. They are the ones that really hold and sustain me well.

 

protein shakes are great when you're not used to eating a full

 

breakfast. it was something that i had to babystep myself into. after a

 

while though, your metabolism heats up first thing in the morning and

 

you will be quite ready for a full meal! :) >>

 

 

 

Thanks Tina,

 

The last two mornings I have had one egg on toast, with a protein shake,

 

just over an hour after getting up, and it has been awesome, and doable,

 

and I feel full in a good way, and I am not hungry till lunchtime.

 

I am enjoying working on one thing at a time.

 

peela

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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hi Jennifer

glad you called by, and hope to hear some more from you - dont be shy!

What step are you on, and how is it going for you?

mosaic

 

 

 

, " Jennifer Moore "

<jennifer.moore wrote:

>

> Hi. My name is Jennifer. I'm from Maine. I'm not a vegetarian, but

> think I would be if I didn't live with (and cook for) meat-a-

tarians.

> My youngest daughter (age 8) is mostly a vegetarian. She doesn't eat

> poultry or red meat, except for once a month (her rule, not mine).

> She eats salmon, tuna, eggs, cheese, and peanut butter as her protein

> sources. I wish I could get her to eat beans and rice, but not yet.

>

> Anyway, thought I'd introduce myself, as I've been lurking lately.

>

> Cheers,

> Jennifer M.

>

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Hi Jennifer,

 

I'm glad you came out of lurk-dom and said hello! :)

 

Tina

 

 

jennifer.moore

Tue, 15 Jan 2008 12:37:26 +0000

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Hi. My name is Jennifer. I'm from Maine. I'm not a vegetarian,

but

 

think I would be if I didn't live with (and cook for) meat-a-tarians.

 

My youngest daughter (age 8) is mostly a vegetarian. She doesn't eat

 

poultry or red meat, except for once a month (her rule, not mine).

 

She eats salmon, tuna, eggs, cheese, and peanut butter as her protein

 

sources. I wish I could get her to eat beans and rice, but not yet.

 

 

 

Anyway, thought I'd introduce myself, as I've been lurking lately.

 

 

 

Cheers,

 

Jennifer M.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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