Guest guest Posted April 2, 2008 Report Share Posted April 2, 2008 Hi Tina, thank you for your encouragement. I have been told and tell me myself to wait and be gentle. But I'm so unbelievably impatient. But I already got better. Every other thing would have been thrown out of the window by now and I'm still here doing it and intending to stay. The doctor said Magnesium would heal the pain in the morning and for the pelvis she prescribed physical therapie because it's lopsided. She told me that I exercise propably to hard. She was very nice and talked me out of my panic. The whole thing spiked my BEs and had to snack after the appointment before lunch and took some of the homeopathic remedies I had stoped because it was sugar. I really have more than sugar addiction to go, there's also this " take something to fix it-mentality " which is not healed yet. But today I saw earlier than before what went on and hope I'm not going down again to crash. My three meals seem to be not rocksolid and I don't know how to make them so. Anja , Tina Castronovo <tcastronovo18 wrote: > > Hi Anja, > > It took a little more than a couple weeks for all of the other things (fear, depression, etc) to fade away for me. Step 6 is a good 6-month long process, and then step 7 is a whole other amazing process in and of itself. Be gentle with yourself and give it some time! Let us know what the doc says. > > Tina > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2008 Report Share Posted April 3, 2008 Hi Anja, LOL, I can be quite impatient with my process too. I had several of those moments in the last week or so. Why aren't I *HERE* yet? One of my SS qualities that is taking a little longer to heal, LOL. Glad to hear your doc had some good advice. Maybe the fitness list would be a good place to learn about exercise without spiking/injury? In terms of the 3 meals not being rock solid - is there a certain thing that you're struggling with? Tina anja_dora Wed, 2 Apr 2008 18:39:22 +0000 Re: question about pain - doc report Hi Tina, thank you for your encouragement. I have been told and tell me myself to wait and be gentle. But I'm so unbelievably impatient. But I already got better. Every other thing would have been thrown out of the window by now and I'm still here doing it and intending to stay. The doctor said Magnesium would heal the pain in the morning and for the pelvis she prescribed physical therapie because it's lopsided. She told me that I exercise propably to hard. She was very nice and talked me out of my panic. The whole thing spiked my BEs and had to snack after the appointment before lunch and took some of the homeopathic remedies I had stoped because it was sugar. I really have more than sugar addiction to go, there's also this " take something to fix it-mentality " which is not healed yet. But today I saw earlier than before what went on and hope I'm not going down again to crash. My three meals seem to be not rocksolid and I don't know how to make them so. Anja , Tina Castronovo <tcastronovo18 wrote: > > Hi Anja, > > It took a little more than a couple weeks for all of the other things (fear, depression, etc) to fade away for me. Step 6 is a good 6-month long process, and then step 7 is a whole other amazing process in and of itself. Be gentle with yourself and give it some time! Let us know what the doc says. > > Tina > > _______________ Get in touch in an instant. Get now. http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh_get\ intouch_042008 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2008 Report Share Posted April 3, 2008 so pleased you got a check up Anja. Good luck with the physio! its also such a positive thing you identified step 3 being a bit adrift. Myself I got to 6 and had to sit on 3 for a bit, just be there and pay attention. it was the best thing I did. hope that will be so for you! are you involved in step 3 list? Is there anything we can help you with? what do you think is one thing you could do? mosaic , " anja_dora " <anja_dora wrote: > > Hi Tina, thank you for your encouragement. I have been told and tell > me myself to wait and be gentle. But I'm so unbelievably impatient. > But I already got better. Every other thing would have been thrown out > of the window by now and I'm still here doing it and intending to stay. > The doctor said Magnesium would heal the pain in the morning and for > the pelvis she prescribed physical therapie because it's lopsided. > She told me that I exercise propably to hard. > She was very nice and talked me out of my panic. > The whole thing spiked my BEs and had to snack after the appointment > before lunch and took some of the homeopathic remedies I had stoped > because it was sugar. I really have more than sugar addiction to go, > there's also this " take something to fix it-mentality " which is not > healed yet. > But today I saw earlier than before what went on and hope I'm not > going down again to crash. > My three meals seem to be not rocksolid and I don't know how to make > them so. > Anja > > , Tina Castronovo > <tcastronovo18@> wrote: > > > > Hi Anja, > > > > It took a little more than a couple weeks for all of the other > things (fear, depression, etc) to fade away for me. Step 6 is a > good 6-month long process, and then step 7 is a whole other amazing > process in and of itself. Be gentle with yourself and give it some > time! Let us know what the doc says. > > > > Tina > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2008 Report Share Posted April 4, 2008 mosaic and Tina, my resistance to reply tells me that it is important (they had an interesting thread about shame on another list..) 1. 3 hours after a meal I have a complex carb snack to increase my serotonin (struggle with depression) 2. I do most of my ways on bicycle because I can only sometimes afford to go by tram, so I'm feeling often exhausted and hungry after these rides and snack (program friendly though). My exhaustion can also come from my thyroid disease. And I do hard Yoga practise too. sounds as if I'm a hard on me, eh? 3.I eat dinner early because I can mainly put only four hours between my meals but stay up so late that I get hungry after my spud again and have another complex carb snack like leftover from dinner or w/rice crackers. 4. I'm still resistant (hung my head) That's it. I know I will be sent to step 3 list, where I actually never joined, doing my steps while being on depression list. Well, now it's it, I feel ashamed, but at least I posted. Anja -- In , " mosaic " <mosaic58 wrote: > > so pleased you got a check up Anja. Good luck with the physio! > > its also such a positive thing you identified step 3 being a bit > adrift. > > Myself I got to 6 and had to sit on 3 for a bit, just be there and > pay attention. it was the best thing I did. > > hope that will be so for you! are you involved in step 3 list? Is > there anything we can help you with? what do you think is one thing > you could do? > > > mosaic > > > > > > , " anja_dora " > <anja_dora@> wrote: > > > > Hi Tina, thank you for your encouragement. I have been told and tell > > me myself to wait and be gentle. But I'm so unbelievably impatient. > > But I already got better. Every other thing would have been thrown > out > > of the window by now and I'm still here doing it and intending to > stay. > > The doctor said Magnesium would heal the pain in the morning and for > > the pelvis she prescribed physical therapie because it's lopsided. > > She told me that I exercise propably to hard. > > She was very nice and talked me out of my panic. > > The whole thing spiked my BEs and had to snack after the appointment > > before lunch and took some of the homeopathic remedies I had stoped > > because it was sugar. I really have more than sugar addiction to go, > > there's also this " take something to fix it-mentality " which is not > > healed yet. > > But today I saw earlier than before what went on and hope I'm not > > going down again to crash. > > My three meals seem to be not rocksolid and I don't know how to make > > them so. > > Anja > > > > , Tina Castronovo > > <tcastronovo18@> wrote: > > > > > > Hi Anja, > > > > > > It took a little more than a couple weeks for all of the other > > things (fear, depression, etc) to fade away for me. Step 6 is a > > good 6-month long process, and then step 7 is a whole other amazing > > process in and of itself. Be gentle with yourself and give it some > > time! Let us know what the doc says. > > > > > > Tina > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2008 Report Share Posted April 4, 2008 Hi Anja- So what I am hearing is *Only can make it 3-4 hours between meals *Lots of exercise *Long days make it hard to do just 3 meals I can think of a couple different solutions. (And there is nothing to be ashamed of, this is regular problem solving!) Before I suggest anything, what kinds of things do you think you could try? Tina anja_dora Fri, 4 Apr 2008 15:48:16 +0000 Re: question about pain - doc report mosaic and Tina, my resistance to reply tells me that it is important (they had an interesting thread about shame on another list..) 1. 3 hours after a meal I have a complex carb snack to increase my serotonin (struggle with depression) 2. I do most of my ways on bicycle because I can only sometimes afford to go by tram, so I'm feeling often exhausted and hungry after these rides and snack (program friendly though). My exhaustion can also come from my thyroid disease. And I do hard Yoga practise too. sounds as if I'm a hard on me, eh? 3.I eat dinner early because I can mainly put only four hours between my meals but stay up so late that I get hungry after my spud again and have another complex carb snack like leftover from dinner or w/rice crackers. 4. I'm still resistant (hung my head) That's it. I know I will be sent to step 3 list, where I actually never joined, doing my steps while being on depression list. Well, now it's it, I feel ashamed, but at least I posted. Anja _______________ More immediate than e-mail? Get instant access with . http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh_ins\ tantaccess_042008 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2008 Report Share Posted April 5, 2008 Anja you deserve a big pat on the back! well done for sharing this as I think it will be so positive for you! I got most healing from the things I struggled with most. step 3, well - I was stamping my little foot and saying " dont want to do THAT " I wanted to do what *I* wanted to do. LOL, my main thing was trying to have breakfast at irregular times, and also trying to resist snacks and " last through " when my body was clearly saying - give me a snack please to get through the day and heal some more. and as for " being sent to step 3 " , well, it isnt like being sent to the naughty step LOL Step 3 list is there for you if you want it. And theres tons of people you already know there who will just give you support. I 'got to' step 6 and went right back to 1 - but it was no backward step. no need to be ashamed. Nothing to be ashamed about ! you just did a brilliant job of identifying some areas and recognising what you could do! what baby - step do you think appeals to you most, in sorting this out? mosaic , " anja_dora " <anja_dora wrote: > > mosaic and Tina, > my resistance to reply tells me that it is important (they had an > interesting thread about shame on another list..) > 1. 3 hours after a meal I have a complex carb snack to increase my > serotonin (struggle with depression) > 2. I do most of my ways on bicycle because I can only sometimes afford > to go by tram, so I'm feeling often exhausted and hungry after these > rides and snack (program friendly though). > My exhaustion can also come from my thyroid disease. > And I do hard Yoga practise too. sounds as if I'm a hard on me, eh? > 3.I eat dinner early because I can mainly put only four hours between > my meals but stay up so late that I get hungry after my spud again and > have another complex carb snack like leftover from dinner or w/rice > crackers. > 4. I'm still resistant (hung my head) > > That's it. > I know I will be sent to step 3 list, where I actually never joined, > doing my steps while being on depression list. > Well, now it's it, I feel ashamed, but at least I posted. > Anja > > > > -- In , " mosaic " <mosaic58@> wrote: > > > > so pleased you got a check up Anja. Good luck with the physio! > > > > its also such a positive thing you identified step 3 being a bit > > adrift. > > > > Myself I got to 6 and had to sit on 3 for a bit, just be there and > > pay attention. it was the best thing I did. > > > > hope that will be so for you! are you involved in step 3 list? Is > > there anything we can help you with? what do you think is one thing > > you could do? > > > > > > mosaic > > > > > > > > > > > > , " anja_dora " > > <anja_dora@> wrote: > > > > > > Hi Tina, thank you for your encouragement. I have been told and tell > > > me myself to wait and be gentle. But I'm so unbelievably impatient. > > > But I already got better. Every other thing would have been thrown > > out > > > of the window by now and I'm still here doing it and intending to > > stay. > > > The doctor said Magnesium would heal the pain in the morning and for > > > the pelvis she prescribed physical therapie because it's lopsided. > > > She told me that I exercise propably to hard. > > > She was very nice and talked me out of my panic. > > > The whole thing spiked my BEs and had to snack after the appointment > > > before lunch and took some of the homeopathic remedies I had stoped > > > because it was sugar. I really have more than sugar addiction to go, > > > there's also this " take something to fix it-mentality " which is not > > > healed yet. > > > But today I saw earlier than before what went on and hope I'm not > > > going down again to crash. > > > My three meals seem to be not rocksolid and I don't know how to make > > > them so. > > > Anja > > > > > > , Tina Castronovo > > > <tcastronovo18@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi Anja, > > > > > > > > It took a little more than a couple weeks for all of the other > > > things (fear, depression, etc) to fade away for me. Step 6 is a > > > good 6-month long process, and then step 7 is a whole other amazing > > > process in and of itself. Be gentle with yourself and give it some > > > time! Let us know what the doc says. > > > > > > > > Tina > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2008 Report Share Posted April 5, 2008 mosaic and Tina, " stamping my little foot and saying " dont want to > do THAT " I wanted to do what *I* wanted to do. " sais it all. Made me laugh and recognise myself. Well probably going back to 1 is what I need to. Timing is bad there too, can't get out of my bed. I wrote this often before but need to once more: I take homeopathic remedies for depression which can cause unpredictable moods too and consist of sugar, so I never know what is food and what isn't. I tried several times to not take them anymore, but then my fear becomes so unbearable that I take them again. Addiction at it's purest. So what can I do now? Try to get out of the bed as soon as possible. Maybe prepare a part of BF in the evening. When I go by bike a lot no extra exercise and relaxing Yoga instead. .... Think one of the most important things is to accept how I am and feel now. It's so hard to be honest to the bones. I always try to sneak out. I struggle with that stupid doupting voice in my head. Anja , " mosaic " <mosaic58 wrote: > > Anja > you deserve a big pat on the back! > well done for sharing this as I think it will be so positive for you! > > I got most healing from the things I struggled with most. > > step 3, well - I was stamping my little foot and saying " dont want to > do THAT " I wanted to do what *I* wanted to do. LOL, my main thing was > trying to have breakfast at irregular times, and also trying to > resist snacks and " last through " when my body was clearly saying - > give me a snack please to get through the day and heal some more. > > and as for " being sent to step 3 " , well, it isnt like being sent to > the naughty step LOL Step 3 list is there for you if you want it. > And theres tons of people you already know there who will just give > you support. I 'got to' step 6 and went right back to 1 - but it > was no backward step. > > no need to be ashamed. Nothing to be ashamed about ! > > you just did a brilliant job of identifying some areas and > recognising what you could do! > > what baby - step do you think appeals to you most, in sorting this > out? > > mosaic , " anja_dora " > <anja_dora@> wrote: > > > > mosaic and Tina, > > my resistance to reply tells me that it is important (they had an > > interesting thread about shame on another list..) > > 1. 3 hours after a meal I have a complex carb snack to increase my > > serotonin (struggle with depression) > > 2. I do most of my ways on bicycle because I can only sometimes > afford > > to go by tram, so I'm feeling often exhausted and hungry after these > > rides and snack (program friendly though). > > My exhaustion can also come from my thyroid disease. > > And I do hard Yoga practise too. sounds as if I'm a hard on me, eh? > > 3.I eat dinner early because I can mainly put only four hours > between > > my meals but stay up so late that I get hungry after my spud again > and > > have another complex carb snack like leftover from dinner or w/rice > > crackers. > > 4. I'm still resistant (hung my head) > > > > That's it. > > I know I will be sent to step 3 list, where I actually never joined, > > doing my steps while being on depression list. > > Well, now it's it, I feel ashamed, but at least I posted. > > Anja > > > > > > > > -- In , " mosaic " <mosaic58@> > wrote: > > > > > > so pleased you got a check up Anja. Good luck with the physio! > > > > > > its also such a positive thing you identified step 3 being a bit > > > adrift. > > > > > > Myself I got to 6 and had to sit on 3 for a bit, just be there > and > > > pay attention. it was the best thing I did. > > > > > > hope that will be so for you! are you involved in step 3 list? Is > > > there anything we can help you with? what do you think is one > thing > > > you could do? > > > > > > > > > mosaic > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " anja_dora " > > > <anja_dora@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi Tina, thank you for your encouragement. I have been told and > tell > > > > me myself to wait and be gentle. But I'm so unbelievably > impatient. > > > > But I already got better. Every other thing would have been > thrown > > > out > > > > of the window by now and I'm still here doing it and intending > to > > > stay. > > > > The doctor said Magnesium would heal the pain in the morning > and for > > > > the pelvis she prescribed physical therapie because it's > lopsided. > > > > She told me that I exercise propably to hard. > > > > She was very nice and talked me out of my panic. > > > > The whole thing spiked my BEs and had to snack after the > appointment > > > > before lunch and took some of the homeopathic remedies I had > stoped > > > > because it was sugar. I really have more than sugar addiction > to go, > > > > there's also this " take something to fix it-mentality " which is > not > > > > healed yet. > > > > But today I saw earlier than before what went on and hope I'm > not > > > > going down again to crash. > > > > My three meals seem to be not rocksolid and I don't know how to > make > > > > them so. > > > > Anja > > > > > > > > , Tina Castronovo > > > > <tcastronovo18@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hi Anja, > > > > > > > > > > It took a little more than a couple weeks for all of the other > > > > things (fear, depression, etc) to fade away for me. Step 6 > is a > > > > good 6-month long process, and then step 7 is a whole other > amazing > > > > process in and of itself. Be gentle with yourself and give it > some > > > > time! Let us know what the doc says. > > > > > > > > > > Tina > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2008 Report Share Posted April 5, 2008 -one thought more. The problem is that I cannot let go the other concepts in my head. I mix them all and in the end is one big chaos. Anja -- In , " anja_dora " <anja_dora wrote: > > mosaic and Tina, > " stamping my little foot and saying " dont want to > > do THAT " I wanted to do what *I* wanted to do. " sais it all. > Made me laugh and recognise myself. > Well probably going back to 1 is what I need to. Timing is bad there > too, can't get out of my bed. > I wrote this often before but need to once more: I take homeopathic > remedies for depression which can cause unpredictable moods too and > consist of sugar, so I never know what is food and what isn't. > I tried several times to not take them anymore, but then my fear > becomes so unbearable that I take them again. Addiction at it's purest. > So what can I do now? > Try to get out of the bed as soon as possible. Maybe prepare a part of > BF in the evening. > When I go by bike a lot no extra exercise and relaxing Yoga instead. > ... > > Think one of the most important things is to accept how I am and feel > now. It's so hard to be honest to the bones. > I always try to sneak out. > I struggle with that stupid doupting voice in my head. > Anja > > > > , " mosaic " <mosaic58@> wrote: > > > > Anja > > you deserve a big pat on the back! > > well done for sharing this as I think it will be so positive for you! > > > > I got most healing from the things I struggled with most. > > > > step 3, well - I was stamping my little foot and saying " dont want to > > do THAT " I wanted to do what *I* wanted to do. LOL, my main thing was > > trying to have breakfast at irregular times, and also trying to > > resist snacks and " last through " when my body was clearly saying - > > give me a snack please to get through the day and heal some more. > > > > and as for " being sent to step 3 " , well, it isnt like being sent to > > the naughty step LOL Step 3 list is there for you if you want it. > > And theres tons of people you already know there who will just give > > you support. I 'got to' step 6 and went right back to 1 - but it > > was no backward step. > > > > no need to be ashamed. Nothing to be ashamed about ! > > > > you just did a brilliant job of identifying some areas and > > recognising what you could do! > > > > what baby - step do you think appeals to you most, in sorting this > > out? > > > > mosaic > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " anja_dora " > > <anja_dora@> wrote: > > > > > > mosaic and Tina, > > > my resistance to reply tells me that it is important (they had an > > > interesting thread about shame on another list..) > > > 1. 3 hours after a meal I have a complex carb snack to increase my > > > serotonin (struggle with depression) > > > 2. I do most of my ways on bicycle because I can only sometimes > > afford > > > to go by tram, so I'm feeling often exhausted and hungry after these > > > rides and snack (program friendly though). > > > My exhaustion can also come from my thyroid disease. > > > And I do hard Yoga practise too. sounds as if I'm a hard on me, eh? > > > 3.I eat dinner early because I can mainly put only four hours > > between > > > my meals but stay up so late that I get hungry after my spud again > > and > > > have another complex carb snack like leftover from dinner or w/rice > > > crackers. > > > 4. I'm still resistant (hung my head) > > > > > > That's it. > > > I know I will be sent to step 3 list, where I actually never joined, > > > doing my steps while being on depression list. > > > Well, now it's it, I feel ashamed, but at least I posted. > > > Anja > > > > > > > > > > > > -- In , " mosaic " <mosaic58@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > so pleased you got a check up Anja. Good luck with the physio! > > > > > > > > its also such a positive thing you identified step 3 being a bit > > > > adrift. > > > > > > > > Myself I got to 6 and had to sit on 3 for a bit, just be there > > and > > > > pay attention. it was the best thing I did. > > > > > > > > hope that will be so for you! are you involved in step 3 list? Is > > > > there anything we can help you with? what do you think is one > > thing > > > > you could do? > > > > > > > > > > > > mosaic > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " anja_dora " > > > > <anja_dora@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hi Tina, thank you for your encouragement. I have been told and > > tell > > > > > me myself to wait and be gentle. But I'm so unbelievably > > impatient. > > > > > But I already got better. Every other thing would have been > > thrown > > > > out > > > > > of the window by now and I'm still here doing it and intending > > to > > > > stay. > > > > > The doctor said Magnesium would heal the pain in the morning > > and for > > > > > the pelvis she prescribed physical therapie because it's > > lopsided. > > > > > She told me that I exercise propably to hard. > > > > > She was very nice and talked me out of my panic. > > > > > The whole thing spiked my BEs and had to snack after the > > appointment > > > > > before lunch and took some of the homeopathic remedies I had > > stoped > > > > > because it was sugar. I really have more than sugar addiction > > to go, > > > > > there's also this " take something to fix it-mentality " which is > > not > > > > > healed yet. > > > > > But today I saw earlier than before what went on and hope I'm > > not > > > > > going down again to crash. > > > > > My three meals seem to be not rocksolid and I don't know how to > > make > > > > > them so. > > > > > Anja > > > > > > > > > > , Tina Castronovo > > > > > <tcastronovo18@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Anja, > > > > > > > > > > > > It took a little more than a couple weeks for all of the other > > > > > things (fear, depression, etc) to fade away for me. Step 6 > > is a > > > > > good 6-month long process, and then step 7 is a whole other > > amazing > > > > > process in and of itself. Be gentle with yourself and give it > > some > > > > > time! Let us know what the doc says. > > > > > > > > > > > > Tina > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2008 Report Share Posted April 5, 2008 Anja, I like your plan! How about you check in with us for a few days on breakfast? Today I had an egg sandwich on a spelt bagel with cheese. Yummy! Tina anja_dora Sat, 5 Apr 2008 15:39:19 +0000 Re: question about pain - doc report mosaic and Tina, " stamping my little foot and saying " dont want to > do THAT " I wanted to do what *I* wanted to do. " sais it all. Made me laugh and recognise myself. Well probably going back to 1 is what I need to. Timing is bad there too, can't get out of my bed. I wrote this often before but need to once more: I take homeopathic remedies for depression which can cause unpredictable moods too and consist of sugar, so I never know what is food and what isn't. I tried several times to not take them anymore, but then my fear becomes so unbearable that I take them again. Addiction at it's purest. So what can I do now? Try to get out of the bed as soon as possible. Maybe prepare a part of BF in the evening. When I go by bike a lot no extra exercise and relaxing Yoga instead. .... Think one of the most important things is to accept how I am and feel now. It's so hard to be honest to the bones. I always try to sneak out. I struggle with that stupid doupting voice in my head. Anja , " mosaic " <mosaic58 wrote: > > Anja > you deserve a big pat on the back! > well done for sharing this as I think it will be so positive for you! > > I got most healing from the things I struggled with most. > > step 3, well - I was stamping my little foot and saying " dont want to > do THAT " I wanted to do what *I* wanted to do. LOL, my main thing was > trying to have breakfast at irregular times, and also trying to > resist snacks and " last through " when my body was clearly saying - > give me a snack please to get through the day and heal some more. > > and as for " being sent to step 3 " , well, it isnt like being sent to > the naughty step LOL Step 3 list is there for you if you want it. > And theres tons of people you already know there who will just give > you support. I 'got to' step 6 and went right back to 1 - but it > was no backward step. > > no need to be ashamed. Nothing to be ashamed about ! > > you just did a brilliant job of identifying some areas and > recognising what you could do! > > what baby - step do you think appeals to you most, in sorting this > out? > > mosaic > > > > > > > , " anja_dora " > <anja_dora@> wrote: > > > > mosaic and Tina, > > my resistance to reply tells me that it is important (they had an > > interesting thread about shame on another list..) > > 1. 3 hours after a meal I have a complex carb snack to increase my > > serotonin (struggle with depression) > > 2. I do most of my ways on bicycle because I can only sometimes > afford > > to go by tram, so I'm feeling often exhausted and hungry after these > > rides and snack (program friendly though). > > My exhaustion can also come from my thyroid disease. > > And I do hard Yoga practise too. sounds as if I'm a hard on me, eh? > > 3.I eat dinner early because I can mainly put only four hours > between > > my meals but stay up so late that I get hungry after my spud again > and > > have another complex carb snack like leftover from dinner or w/rice > > crackers. > > 4. I'm still resistant (hung my head) > > > > That's it. > > I know I will be sent to step 3 list, where I actually never joined, > > doing my steps while being on depression list. > > Well, now it's it, I feel ashamed, but at least I posted. > > Anja > > > > > > > > -- In , " mosaic " <mosaic58@> > wrote: > > > > > > so pleased you got a check up Anja. Good luck with the physio! > > > > > > its also such a positive thing you identified step 3 being a bit > > > adrift. > > > > > > Myself I got to 6 and had to sit on 3 for a bit, just be there > and > > > pay attention. it was the best thing I did. > > > > > > hope that will be so for you! are you involved in step 3 list? Is > > > there anything we can help you with? what do you think is one > thing > > > you could do? > > > > > > > > > mosaic > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " anja_dora " > > > <anja_dora@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi Tina, thank you for your encouragement. I have been told and > tell > > > > me myself to wait and be gentle. But I'm so unbelievably > impatient. > > > > But I already got better. Every other thing would have been > thrown > > > out > > > > of the window by now and I'm still here doing it and intending > to > > > stay. > > > > The doctor said Magnesium would heal the pain in the morning > and for > > > > the pelvis she prescribed physical therapie because it's > lopsided. > > > > She told me that I exercise propably to hard. > > > > She was very nice and talked me out of my panic. > > > > The whole thing spiked my BEs and had to snack after the > appointment > > > > before lunch and took some of the homeopathic remedies I had > stoped > > > > because it was sugar. I really have more than sugar addiction > to go, > > > > there's also this " take something to fix it-mentality " which is > not > > > > healed yet. > > > > But today I saw earlier than before what went on and hope I'm > not > > > > going down again to crash. > > > > My three meals seem to be not rocksolid and I don't know how to > make > > > > them so. > > > > Anja > > > > > > > > , Tina Castronovo > > > > <tcastronovo18@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hi Anja, > > > > > > > > > > It took a little more than a couple weeks for all of the other > > > > things (fear, depression, etc) to fade away for me. Step 6 > is a > > > > good 6-month long process, and then step 7 is a whole other > amazing > > > > process in and of itself. Be gentle with yourself and give it > some > > > > time! Let us know what the doc says. > > > > > > > > > > Tina > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________ Get in touch in an instant. 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Guest guest Posted April 6, 2008 Report Share Posted April 6, 2008 Anja I hear you on this one, I was most comcerned about it too about 3 years ago. I have 3 particular remedies I used for old chronic complaints. Good news is, I settled during the steps and havent needed to use them. I still choose to carry them when I go abroad in case I get a flare - up but its not happened yet. If that happened I would then decide what to do. so my advice is: focus on the food. mosaic , " anja_dora " <anja_dora wrote: > I wrote this often before but need to once more: I take homeopathic > remedies for depression which can cause unpredictable moods too and > consist of sugar, so I never know what is food and what isn't. > I tried several times to not take them anymore, but then my fear > becomes so unbearable that I take them again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2008 Report Share Posted April 7, 2008 mosaic, I'm really grateful you answered me for this. It confuses me much. I know my food is not stable and there's much to do here, but is it possible, that after a dose of a pin head big remedie I can come into withdrawl with serious depressiv symptoms three days after? What do you think. I cannot imagine to give them away. It scares me to the bones. I am focussing on the food but when I go so deep down I can't bear myself anymore and then I take it and my doctor gave it to me for exact this situation. Anja , " mosaic " <mosaic58 wrote: > > Anja > I hear you on this one, I was most comcerned about it too about 3 > years ago. > I have 3 particular remedies I used for old chronic complaints. Good > news is, I settled during the steps and havent needed to use them. > > I still choose to carry them when I go abroad in case I get a flare - > up but its not happened yet. If that happened I would then decide > what to do. > > so my advice is: focus on the food. > > mosaic > > > , " anja_dora " > <anja_dora@> wrote: > > > I wrote this often before but need to once more: I take homeopathic > > remedies for depression which can cause unpredictable moods too and > > consist of sugar, so I never know what is food and what isn't. > > I tried several times to not take them anymore, but then my fear > > becomes so unbearable that I take them again. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2008 Report Share Posted April 7, 2008 Hi Anja, Have you ever heard anyone in this community talk about having a " day 4 " ? It's exactly what you're talking about. When we get a spike - or some unexpected sugar - or anything else that our bodies aren't used to - three or four days later, you crash and feel really icky. We call it a " day 4. " If you look in your journal you might start to see that pattern a bit. It helps me a LOT to know when I'm having a day 4. Tina anja_dora Mon, 7 Apr 2008 12:57:18 +0000 Re: question about pain - doc report mosaic, I'm really grateful you answered me for this. It confuses me much. I know my food is not stable and there's much to do here, but is it possible, that after a dose of a pin head big remedie I can come into withdrawl with serious depressiv symptoms three days after? What do you think. I cannot imagine to give them away. It scares me to the bones. I am focussing on the food but when I go so deep down I can't bear myself anymore and then I take it and my doctor gave it to me for exact this situation. Anja , " mosaic " <mosaic58 wrote: > > Anja > I hear you on this one, I was most comcerned about it too about 3 > years ago. > I have 3 particular remedies I used for old chronic complaints. Good > news is, I settled during the steps and havent needed to use them. > > I still choose to carry them when I go abroad in case I get a flare - > up but its not happened yet. If that happened I would then decide > what to do. > > so my advice is: focus on the food. > > mosaic > > > , " anja_dora " > <anja_dora@> wrote: > > > I wrote this often before but need to once more: I take homeopathic > > remedies for depression which can cause unpredictable moods too and > > consist of sugar, so I never know what is food and what isn't. > > I tried several times to not take them anymore, but then my fear > > becomes so unbearable that I take them again. > _______________ Get in touch in an instant. Get now. http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh_get\ intouch_042008 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2008 Report Share Posted April 7, 2008 For me, I think I spent so much time focusing on " the symptom " that I forgot the solution. here, you say " > I know my food is not stable " and theres the bit to focus on, do the food, do your step, and if youre like me, then that sort of puts everything else right. I could get a big spike from life situation, but food steady, a bit of meditation, treats for me and I have steadied out. See what happens for you with baby -stepped steady food. best wish with this mosaic , " anja_dora " <anja_dora wrote: > > mosaic, I'm really grateful you answered me for this. > It confuses me much. > I know my food is not stable and there's much to do here, but is it > possible, that after a dose of a pin head big remedie I can come into > withdrawl with serious depressiv symptoms three days after? > What do you think. > I cannot imagine to give them away. It scares me to the bones. > I am focussing on the food but when I go so deep down I can't bear > myself anymore and then I take it and my doctor gave it to me for > exact this situation. > Anja > > , " mosaic " <mosaic58@> wrote: > > > > Anja > > I hear you on this one, I was most comcerned about it too about 3 > > years ago. > > I have 3 particular remedies I used for old chronic complaints. Good > > news is, I settled during the steps and havent needed to use them. > > > > I still choose to carry them when I go abroad in case I get a flare - > > up but its not happened yet. If that happened I would then decide > > what to do. > > > > so my advice is: focus on the food. > > > > mosaic > > > > > > , " anja_dora " > > <anja_dora@> wrote: > > > > > I wrote this often before but need to once more: I take homeopathic > > > remedies for depression which can cause unpredictable moods too and > > > consist of sugar, so I never know what is food and what isn't. > > > I tried several times to not take them anymore, but then my fear > > > becomes so unbearable that I take them again. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2008 Report Share Posted April 8, 2008 Anja, I am going to respond to this. The size of homeopathic remedies has nothing to do with their impact. In fact smaller infusions have bigger effects. If you are using remedies, the key is to talk about their use with your practitioner. This list is really not the place to talk about this. And....when your food is stable, you will be shokced at the level of your healing. It is beyond anything you can imagine. Work on the food. And if you need other supports, talk with the people who are providing them. Does this make sense? kathleen On Apr 7, 2008, at 8:57 AM, anja_dora wrote: > mosaic, I'm really grateful you answered me for this. > It confuses me much. > I know my food is not stable and there's much to do here, but is it > possible, that after a dose of a pin head big remedie I can come into > withdrawl with serious depressiv symptoms three days after? > What do you think. > I cannot imagine to give them away. It scares me to the bones. > I am focussing on the food but when I go so deep down I can't bear > myself anymore and then I take it and my doctor gave it to me for > exact this situation. > Anja > > , " mosaic " <mosaic58 > wrote: >> >> Anja >> I hear you on this one, I was most comcerned about it too about 3 >> years ago. >> I have 3 particular remedies I used for old chronic complaints. Good >> news is, I settled during the steps and havent needed to use them. >> >> I still choose to carry them when I go abroad in case I get a flare - >> up but its not happened yet. If that happened I would then decide >> what to do. >> >> so my advice is: focus on the food. >> >> mosaic >> >> >> , " anja_dora " >> <anja_dora@> wrote: >> >>> I wrote this often before but need to once more: I take homeopathic >>> remedies for depression which can cause unpredictable moods too and >>> consist of sugar, so I never know what is food and what isn't. >>> I tried several times to not take them anymore, but then my fear >>> becomes so unbearable that I take them again. >> > > > > --- > > > > http://www.radiantrecovery.com > > http://www.radiantrecoverystore.com/ > > http://www.radiantrecovery.com/classes.htm > > http://www.radiantrecovery.com/cgi-bin/bbs-new/webbbs_config.pl > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2008 Report Share Posted April 8, 2008 It does.Anja , Kathleen DesMaisons <radiantkd wrote: > > Anja, > > I am going to respond to this. The size of homeopathic remedies has > nothing to do with their impact. In fact smaller infusions have bigger > effects. If you are using remedies, the key is to talk about their use > with your practitioner. This list is really not the place to talk > about this. > > And....when your food is stable, you will be shokced at the level of > your healing. It is beyond anything you can imagine. > Work on the food. > > And if you need other supports, talk with the people who are providing > them. > > Does this make sense? > > kathleen > On Apr 7, 2008, at 8:57 AM, anja_dora wrote: > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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