New here - need some advice

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Hi, I'm new here and your group was suggested by the RR staff as

a & #13; & #10;place that might have some suggestions for a specific problem.

I'm & #13; & #10;living and working in Kazakhstan [yes, the Borat place]. I started

on & #13; & #10;PNP 4 years ago and have stayed with the breakfast eating and

vitamins & #13; & #10;but never gone further. Now, I'm ready to move on to deal

with the & #13; & #10;sugar sensitivity in a more thorough way. The problem is that

there & #13; & #10;are some foods that are not available here. In fact, many foods

are & #13; & #10;not available or are not " safe " here. & #13; & #10;First problem,

protein - the meat - no inspections etc. so I won't eat & #13; & #10;it [that's why

I'm consulting the vegetarians]. I have been able to & #13; & #10;bring in some

peanut butter when I've been traveling and have enough & #13; & #10;to get me

through to my next trip out of the country. I can get good & #13; & #10;fresh eggs

and a little cheese - although it is all bland and high & #13; & #10;fat. I can get

" reconstituted tofu " but that is the only other & #13; & #10;protein source that

I've found. How do I get enough protein? & #13; & #10; & #13; & #10;Second problem:

There are no brown grains available - not even whole & #13; & #10;wheat flour. I'm

stuck with white bread, white pasta, white rice. & #13; & #10; & #13; & #10;Finally:

There are none of the packaged products that I've relied on & #13; & #10;when

tackling food issues in the past. No protein shakes, no bars & #13; & #10;etc. If

it's not grown here, it's not available here. & #13; & #10;Positives: I have

wonderful fresh fruit and vegetables available at & #13; & #10;the market that are

all organic and taste wonderful - that's what I've & #13; & #10;lived on all winter

[plus the positively decadent chocolate!!!]and & #13; & #10;fantastic dried fruits

and nuts [some people insist that they help & #13; & #10;with the iron requirements

- reactions? the fruits are sugar triggers & #13; & #10;but oh, the

nuts!!!] & #13; & #10;OK, group, what do you suggest? Am I crazy for trying to

follow the & #13; & #10;program given this situation? What advice do you

have? & #13; & #10;Thanks & #13; & #10;Anneinkzland [think Alice in Wonderland and

you're close ]

[Guest guest]

Hi Alice in Wonderland

 

I just wanted to extend a welcome :) and say...your not crazy to try this

programme given the situation

There is a lot of support in this community and we will find some great

solutions

Eggs are one of my favourite sources of breakfast protein Do you have

access to oatmeal or potatoes, both very good " browns " . Im sure over the

next while we will find some interesting solutions to your brown shortage

<smile>

 

karen

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Hi Anneinkzland, and welcome!!

 

No, you are not crazy to try and do the food where you live. I admire it. And

I know that you can do it. It might take some detective work but I know we can

help you find solutions.

 

How is breakfast? What do you usually have? I am a big fan of eggs myself.

 

In terms of grains - do you have access to oats? Oatmeal is a great brown. Don't

forget about potatoes and sweet potatoes, they are wonderful browns. Don't limit

your conception of browns to just grains!

 

I would make a list of all the things you have access to and add to it as you

figure out more options.

 

Tina

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Thanks for your advice - yes, oatmeal and potatoes are both

available & #13; & #10;here. I'll put them on my list.

[Guest guest]

--- Thanks, Tina. & #13; & #10;I love sweet potatoes but they aren't available here.

They were one & #13; & #10;of my staples back home. Potatoes are still around but

the quality & #13; & #10;isn't great now. Oatmeal - why is it that the only uses

I've made for & #13; & #10;this are oatmeal cookies and apple crisp? There's that

sugar & #13; & #10;sensitivity rearing it's ugly head

[Guest guest]

Just adding a welcome Anne margaret. Glad to meet you

 

are pulses available there?

 

what is the situation with importing foodstuffs? like ordering shake

for instance? I know the store sends shake to UK regularly, and

Europe. I understand it gets through customs fine without extra

charge if you just order a tub at a time. Any good?

 

Glad you have potatoes, so versatile!

 

so does that mean you are doing step 2 now?

mosaic

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

, " annemargaretwilliams "

<a.m.free wrote:

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> Hi, I'm new here and your group was suggested by the RR staff as

a & #13; & #10;place that might have some suggestions for a specific

problem. I'm & #13; & #10;living and working in Kazakhstan [yes, the

Borat place]. I started on & #13; & #10;PNP 4 years ago and have stayed

with the breakfast eating and vitamins & #13; & #10;but never gone

further. Now, I'm ready to move on to deal with the & #13; & #10;sugar

sensitivity in a more thorough way. The problem is that

there & #13; & #10;are some foods that are not available here. In fact,

many foods are & #13; & #10;not available or are not " safe " here.

& #13; & #10;First problem, protein - the meat - no inspections etc. so

I won't eat & #13; & #10;it [that's why I'm consulting the vegetarians].

I have been able to & #13; & #10;bring in some peanut butter when I've

been traveling and have enough & #13; & #10;to get me through to my next

trip out of the country. I can get good & #13; & #10;fresh eggs and a

little cheese - although it is all bland and high & #13; & #10;fat. I

can get " reconstituted tofu " but that is the only

other & #13; & #10;protein source that I've found. How do I get enough

protein? & #13; & #10; & #13; & #10;Second problem: There are no brown

grains available - not even whole & #13; & #10;wheat flour. I'm stuck

with white bread, white pasta, white

rice. & #13; & #10; & #13; & #10;Finally: There are none of the packaged

products that I've relied on & #13; & #10;when tackling food issues in

the past. No protein shakes, no bars & #13; & #10;etc. If it's not

grown here, it's not available here. & #13; & #10;Positives: I have

wonderful fresh fruit and vegetables available at & #13; & #10;the market

that are all organic and taste wonderful - that's what

I've & #13; & #10;lived on all winter [plus the positively decadent

chocolate!!!]and & #13; & #10;fantastic dried fruits and nuts [some

people insist that they help & #13; & #10;with the iron requirements -

reactions? the fruits are sugar triggers & #13; & #10;but oh, the

nuts!!!] & #13; & #10;OK, group, what do you suggest? Am I crazy for

trying to follow the & #13; & #10;program given this situation? What

advice do you have? & #13; & #10;Thanks & #13; & #10;Anneinkzland [think

Alice in Wonderland and you're close ]

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the welcome, mosaic.

Unfortunately, pulses are not available. Food importation is not allowed - I

even have trouble buying books from Amazon.uk [i had to explain to a surly

customs officer why I wanted books - and I'm a teacher!!!!] So, I'm stuck with

what I can buy locally. I did realize today that I can get cottage cheese. In

the past I've found that it makes a great lunch or breakfast when mixed with

fruit-flavoured yogurt. Thank goodness for dairy products. Actually, one of

the neat things here that I wish I could buy in North America is the long

shelf-life milk in the tetra-pak. When I need a little pick me up, I often have

a cup of milk heated in the microwave with a tsp of instant coffee added -my own

version of a latte without the Starbucks price.

 

 

 

Anne in Kazakhland

 

 

 

mosaic58

Thu, 24 Apr 2008 13:23:51 +0000

Re: New here - need some advice

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Just adding a welcome Anne margaret. Glad to meet you

 

 

 

are pulses available there?

 

 

 

what is the situation with importing foodstuffs? like ordering shake

 

for instance? I know the store sends shake to UK regularly, and

 

Europe. I understand it gets through customs fine without extra

 

charge if you just order a tub at a time. Any good?

 

 

 

Glad you have potatoes, so versatile!

 

 

 

so does that mean you are doing step 2 now?

 

mosaic

 

 

 

, " annemargaretwilliams "

 

<a.m.free wrote:

 

>

 

> Hi, I'm new here and your group was suggested by the RR staff as

 

a & #13; & #10;place that might have some suggestions for a specific

 

problem. I'm & #13; & #10;living and working in Kazakhstan [yes, the

 

Borat place]. I started on & #13; & #10;PNP 4 years ago and have stayed

 

with the breakfast eating and vitamins & #13; & #10;but never gone

 

further. Now, I'm ready to move on to deal with the & #13; & #10;sugar

 

sensitivity in a more thorough way. The problem is that

 

there & #13; & #10;are some foods that are not available here. In fact,

 

many foods are & #13; & #10;not available or are not " safe " here.

 

& #13; & #10;First problem, protein - the meat - no inspections etc. so

 

I won't eat & #13; & #10;it [that's why I'm consulting the vegetarians].

 

I have been able to & #13; & #10;bring in some peanut butter when I've

 

been traveling and have enough & #13; & #10;to get me through to my next

 

trip out of the country. I can get good & #13; & #10;fresh eggs and a

 

little cheese - although it is all bland and high & #13; & #10;fat. I

 

can get " reconstituted tofu " but that is the only

 

other & #13; & #10;protein source that I've found. How do I get enough

 

protein? & #13; & #10; & #13; & #10;Second problem: There are no brown

 

grains available - not even whole & #13; & #10;wheat flour. I'm stuck

 

with white bread, white pasta, white

 

rice. & #13; & #10; & #13; & #10;Finally: There are none of the packaged

 

products that I've relied on & #13; & #10;when tackling food issues in

 

the past. No protein shakes, no bars & #13; & #10;etc. If it's not

 

grown here, it's not available here. & #13; & #10;Positives: I have

 

wonderful fresh fruit and vegetables available at & #13; & #10;the market

 

that are all organic and taste wonderful - that's what

 

I've & #13; & #10;lived on all winter [plus the positively decadent

 

chocolate!!!]and & #13; & #10;fantastic dried fruits and nuts [some

 

people insist that they help & #13; & #10;with the iron requirements -

 

reactions? the fruits are sugar triggers & #13; & #10;but oh, the

 

nuts!!!] & #13; & #10;OK, group, what do you suggest? Am I crazy for

 

trying to follow the & #13; & #10;program given this situation? What

 

advice do you have? & #13; & #10;Thanks & #13; & #10;Anneinkzland [think

 

Alice in Wonderland and you're close ]

 

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[Guest guest]

Anneinkzland,

 

The nuts are all a good source of protein too. You could combine the tofu and

nuts or eggs and cheese. You didn't mention beans - are they available around?

Maybe for your next trip out of the country you could bring back a bag of dried

beans which could be either browns or protein (depending on what else you eat

with them.) Or like Karen said - do the vegetables in the market include

potatoes or sweet potatoes - cause they're great.

 

Welcome and good luck!

 

Jess CO

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Hello Anne Margaret!

 

It is very interesting to read about your experience! Thanks for

sharing. There are some other ways in which you could use oatmeal

aside from cookies and apple crisp. I am a big fan of oatmeal (and I

mean BIG), so I've explored its different possibilities. You mentioned

you have good fresh fruits. Those you could cook in the oatmeal. That

provides wonderful flavor, color and thickness. Apples, pears, and

berries work wonders. If you have a different fruit every time, you

are already getting some variety. You can also add some cinnamon or

nutmeg and make it even more comforting!

 

You can use the oatmeal (and this might sound crazy to some, but it's

actually very good) in soups and broths. Of course, you probably

wouldn't be using milk then. If you add some oats to your stocks, it

provides protein and also makes them thicker, more filling. How about

barley? That also works great with soups. One last thing, since you

have access to good dairy and vegetables, you can make creamy soups

with them. Creamy mushroom, carrot, squash, corn or pea soups are

wonderful and good source of protein.

 

I hope this is helpful and that you are having a wonderful evening,

 

Julia

 

 

, " annemargaretwilliams "

<a.m.free wrote:

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> --- Thanks, Tina. & #13; & #10;I love sweet potatoes but they aren't

available here. They were one & #13; & #10;of my staples back home.

Potatoes are still around but the quality & #13; & #10;isn't great now.

Oatmeal - why is it that the only uses I've made for & #13; & #10;this are

oatmeal cookies and apple crisp? There's that

sugar & #13; & #10;sensitivity rearing it's ugly head

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks, Julia & #13; & #10;I'll try some of your suggestions as I get time. There

are a few & #13; & #10;dried beans here but I haven't tried cooking any of them yet.

I'll & #13; & #10;have to get adventuresome. One of the things that I did do today

was & #13; & #10;have a " Turkish " breakfast. When I was in Turkey on holidays

at & #13; & #10;Christmas, I discovered the wonders of their first meal. They

serve & #13; & #10;fresh squeezed orange juice followed with sliced tomatoes

and & #13; & #10;cucumbers drizzled with olive oil for the first course. Then

there & #13; & #10;are small dishes of olives and dried fruits, slices of cheese and

one & #13; & #10;kind of meat. Then came the toast and fresh jams [which are

not & #13; & #10;nearly as thick as North American ones]; then the cooked eggs

[the & #13; & #10;roosters always seemed to be crowing outside my window when I

was & #13; & #10;eating them ]Of course, this was accompanied by coffee. With

a & #13; & #10;lovely young man to cook my meal and serve it, it was wonderful.

So, & #13; & #10;today in a salute to Turkey, I had sliced cucumbers and

tomatoes & #13; & #10;drizzled with oil and sliced cheese and fresh juice for my

breakfast. & #13; & #10; Now, if I only get up a little earlier, I can cook

eggs!!!Maybe on & #13; & #10;Sunday as I am working the midnight to 6 a.m. shift at

our school & #13; & #10;sleepover tomorrow night. Of course, the kids will have all

kinds of & #13; & #10;junk food. The chips and salty snacks don't tempt me but I

sure hope & #13; & #10;they are finished with the chocolate before I get there.

The & #13; & #10;chocolate here is wonderful - mostly from Russia - and so rich

and & #13; & #10;sweet.

[Guest guest]

, Anne Williams <a.m.free

wrote:

I did realize today that I can get cottage cheese.

 

 

Then youre half way there Anne ! lol, heres my favourite recipe

 

http://www.radiantrecovery.com/breakfast.html#Cottage

 

these pancakes are brilliant for lunch too as well as breakfast. My

cheat version is just to throw in a tub of cottage cheese, a cup of

oats and 1 - 2 eggs till the batter feels right - the pancakes keep ok

and can be reheated, not as nice but ok.

 

I like them with lemon.

 

 

thats a shame you cant get hold of some things. The bonus will be those

lovely fresh vegetables though.

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the link to the recipes. I'll see if I can adapt it - & #13; & #10;there

are very few blenders and electric mixers here, except at very & #13; & #10;high

prices [the basic things we take for granted]. The power cords & #13; & #10;aren't

like American ones so I can't even bring my mixer back with me & #13; & #10;next

fall !! so I mix and blend everything by hand. When I tell my 86 & #13; & #10;year

old mother about these challenges, she says it's like it was when & #13; & #10;she

got married in 1946. So, I've stepped into a time warp. However, & #13; & #10;I do

have a refrigerator and a good stove [which she went without

for & #13; & #10;several years]. One of the things I wasn't expecting when I came

was & #13; & #10;that there would be no dried spices etc. I brought some

[cinnamon, & #13; & #10;nutmeg, baking powder, baking soda] I've already run out of

baking & #13; & #10;powder [but was able to get some in the Spice Market in

Istanbul]. I & #13; & #10;bought vanilla extract while on holiday in the fall. I

can get some & #13; & #10;fresh herbs again after the winter without them so the

tomatoes get & #13; & #10;fresh basil and my friends make their own tomato sauce

[there is no & #13; & #10;prepared in the jar or can]. It's healthier since we are

using fresh & #13; & #10;ingredients but it sure does take more planning and

preparation. The & #13; & #10;other thing that I notice about the fresh vegetables

and fruits is & #13; & #10;that they don't last like the ones in Canada or the US -

I think it's & #13; & #10;because they don't use chemicals when growing or shipping.

Two days & #13; & #10;is about the maximum freshness for any of the salad stuff even

in the & #13; & #10;fridge. I have to be careful when buying eggs - they're sold

in & #13; & #10;plastic baggies - about a dozen at a time - and I always end

up & #13; & #10;breaking at least one when carrying them home. It's a

different & #13; & #10;world, that's for sure.

[Guest guest]

Sounds like it's time to try some new things with oatmeal!

 

My favorite is to heat it in the microwave with some milk and a bit of fruit.

Delicious!

 

Tina

 

 

 

 

a.m.free

Thu, 24 Apr 2008 01:51:15 +0000

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--- Thanks, Tina. & #13; & #10;I love sweet potatoes but they aren't

available here. They were one & #13; & #10;of my staples back home. Potatoes are

still around but the quality & #13; & #10;isn't great now. Oatmeal - why is it that

the only uses I've made for & #13; & #10;this are oatmeal cookies and apple crisp?

There's that sugar & #13; & #10;sensitivity rearing it's ugly head

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Oatmeal, oatmeal...I could sing its praises for days!

 

My current favorite version: either rolled or steel-cut oats cooked

with fresh grated nutmeg, some cherry or vanilla flavoring, and

about a tablespoon of creamed coconut.

 

Or I'll used a spoonful of unsweetened cocoa powder, some vanilla

flavoring, and a spoonful of creamed coconut.

 

Or...cinnamon with maple flavoring and a spoonful of almond butter.

YUM!! Cinzia

 

, Tina Castronovo

<tcastronovo18 wrote:

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back home. Potatoes are still around but the quality & #13; & #10;isn't

great now. Oatmeal - why is it that the only uses I've made

for & #13; & #10;this are oatmeal cookies and apple crisp? There's that

sugar & #13; & #10;sensitivity rearing it's ugly head

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Yum! I like those ideas! Where do you get creamed coconut?

 

Tina

 

 

 

 

cmarchesani

Thu, 24 Apr 2008 20:52:16 +0000

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Oatmeal, oatmeal...I could sing its praises for days!

 

 

 

My current favorite version: either rolled or steel-cut oats cooked

 

with fresh grated nutmeg, some cherry or vanilla flavoring, and

 

about a tablespoon of creamed coconut.

 

 

 

Or I'll used a spoonful of unsweetened cocoa powder, some vanilla

 

flavoring, and a spoonful of creamed coconut.

 

 

 

Or...cinnamon with maple flavoring and a spoonful of almond butter.

 

YUM!! Cinzia

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

The creamed coconut comes in a plastic bag inside a little cardboard

box & I get it at my health food store (I think Whole Foods carries

it). The brand I get is organic. Don't recall the name; the box is

green and yellow or white...?

 

It's kind of hard at room temp (and very hard when refrigerated).

You can " massage " the bag in your hands to make it more pliable. I

do this when I buy it then portion it into 1 Tablespoon lumps, wrap

each, and put in the fridge. That way, I can just grab one and

plunk it in my oatmeal or whatever.

 

BTW, it's all coconut, no dairy or other animal products.

 

This morning's oats had unsweetened cocoa powder, a piece of vanilla

bean, and some peanut butter. Delish! Cinzia

 

, Tina Castronovo

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[Guest guest]

I was at Whole Foods tonight & they don't carry creamed coconut (at

least, the 2 WF nearest my apartment).

 

Tina, I'd be happy to bring some to Ranch if you like. Let me know

this weekend if you can. ) Cinzia

 

, " cinziatre "

<cmarchesani wrote:

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> each, and put in the fridge. That way, I can just grab one and

> plunk it in my oatmeal or whatever.

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> bean, and some peanut butter. Delish! Cinzia

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Ooh yes I'd love to try a little bit if you don't mind!

 

Tina

 

 

 

 

 

Tina, I'd be happy to bring some to Ranch if you like. Let me know

 

this weekend if you can. ) Cinzia

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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