welcome Ryan / Breakfast

May 13, 2008

nice to meet you Ryan.

my analytical side calmed down a lot with the steps! I'm quite laid-

back these days. its a bit of a relief actually.

so you are working step 1 breakfast? LOL at the sludge. I did much

better when I got breakfast within the hour - I didnt like doing it

as I felt powerful with a delayed or absent breakfast. But it did me

good.

have you seen the RR store? they have lots of nice alcohol free

flavourings there, vanilla too I think.

do you have georges shake? or do you have a brown added ?

, reynolds ryan

<floatfish wrote:

>

> Emily,

> Thanks for reminding me. I seem to have misplaced

> my head. Fruit is an excellent idea.

> Tried ground flax in the R.P.Powder shake today,

> but didn't down it for 2 hours. It turned into the

> most fascinating gelatinous sludge. Hmm...

> RAR

> (there, that's better, no confusion about initials)

>

> > Ryan,

> > Welcome to the group. Thanks for shedding light on

> > how analytical a

> > person can be. You could try using frozen fruit,

> > such as

> > blueberries, in your shake in place of the Stevia.

> > Emily

> >

>

____________________

______________

> Be a better friend, newshound, and

> know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now.

http://mobile./;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ

>

May 15, 2008

Mosaic,

Oh, to be laid-back... Dare to dream.

The last time I thought I was laid-back, my Dr.

said I was manic...

I was doing step 1 just before I found the PNP

book, but am better now than I was then.

I did step 2 in earnest for a month, but slacked

off when work became truly insane, hours-wise (more

like hours-un-wise). I also began to see that filling

in the Emotions reporting was very foggy, I am burned

out on emotions from a life of being jerked around by

them. I find it hard to know what I am feeling unless

it slaps me in the face.

I am doing step 3 illegitimately, but can't drop

it. When done honestly it keeps my life from slowing

down into low-slog.

I haven't started step 4 because I'm not at all

sure that I have earned the right, and so set up my

chemistry to relaize the benefit. I don't want to miss

the change. I don't want to convince myself that this

diet " Isn't The One " .

Step 5 I have to do most all the time anyway,

connected w/ step 6.

Step 6... I have eliminated white sugar, honey,

corn syrup, maple, and several others because if I

have, say, a half of a Hershey's Kiss... 24 hours

later, if I even eat an apple (non-processed sugar), I

will have a Rage, or one of another very painful &

damaging & scary reaction.

So, yes, I think I am on Step 1, legitimately. And

trying to keep myself from sprinting through the whole

course, not gaining the firmirment of lifestyle

change.

Just checked the flavorings, Yum!

Currently allergic to Milk, hence rice protein is

my only recourse.

Gotta' sleep.

Thanks!

Ryan

--- mosaic <mosaic58 wrote:

> nice to meet you Ryan.

>

> my analytical side calmed down a lot with the steps!

> I'm quite laid-

> back these days. its a bit of a relief actually.

>

> so you are working step 1 breakfast? LOL at the

> sludge. I did much

> better when I got breakfast within the hour - I

> didnt like doing it

> as I felt powerful with a delayed or absent

> breakfast. But it did me

> good.

>

> have you seen the RR store? they have lots of nice

> alcohol free

> flavourings there, vanilla too I think.

>

> do you have georges shake? or do you have a brown

> added ?

>

May 15, 2008

, reynolds ryan

<floatfish wrote:

> So, yes, I think I am on Step 1, legitimately. And

> trying to keep myself from sprinting through the whole

> course, not gaining the firmirment of lifestyle

> change.

Ryan how fantastic you have that worked out about step 1! took me

awhile and I kept distracting myself from step one with the others.

when I got the spotlight on breakfast it worked so much better for me!

so how are the 4 parts working for you?

mosaic

May 15, 2008

Hello Ryan,

I started the program about a month and a half ago and have been

struggling with step 2. Just like you, I did it religiously for about

three weeks and then school got out of control and couldn't keep up

with it. I am trying to go back to it little by little. For now, I am

making sure I write what I had for breakfast and for lunch, and then

write how I felt physically and emotionally. If I don't make it for

dinner (in the diary, I mean. How could I not make it for dinner in

real life?) it's OK, I know that tomorrow I am going to write about

breakfast and that little by little I am going to start writing about

the afternoon, which seems to be a taboo topic so far.

I had started this program with the idea of taking it one day at a

time, one breakfast at a time, but now it seems that I am taking one

hour at a time, which is fine. It works well with my obsessive

personality. I am practicing with step 3, just to see how that feels,

and it has been good so far. I stay away from chocolate as much as I

can, but other sugars are still making it to my fridge (oh! the

sarcastic smiles I get when I tell people that I am addicted to

chocolate and that's why I don't eat it, /sigh/). As I said, day by

day, hour by hour. I have been feeling pretty disorganized and

stressed lately. Then I remember that I am actually on my way to

changing behaviors that seem to rule my life, which makes me feel

relieved. I am trying to give this program the patience it deserves...

That alone is a big change.

Glad to read you and thank you for sharing. Welcome!

Julia

May 16, 2008

....> so how are the 4 parts working for you? > mosaic

Mosaic,

Part 1... I have had trouble quantifying my protein

intake even though I have kept notes on exactly what I

am eating & weights. It seems psychologically easier

to calculate calories for my Dr. since I know that is

short-term, most likely. So I have the data, and I am

trying to get in gobs of protein, but I am holding the

whole issue of close scrutiny at arms length like a

used diaper (nose turned away, running). So, I need to

start being more conscious about it. I am lacto-ovo

veg, and we have chickens, so it's easy to get eggs.

And I eat sometimes 5 of them for breakfast, with goat

cheese when my weird allergy isn't going nuts. They

get old, but goat cheese makes everything better!

Part 2... Lately, I almost always eat before an

hour is up, either because I have an appointment

early, or because I am stuck here at the house (foot

injury, chilblains). But when I am working hard-core

on physical jobs, I tend to get up later than I

should, spend time doing what ain't appropriate for an

hour or 3, then eat or not, then leave for work (I am

self-employed as a Jack-of-All-Trades & have a

computer business). So I hope that this habit is

forming now, while I am recuperating from overworking

in the weather.

Part 3... I am so addicted to carbs that I find it

hard to start the day without finding anything within

eye-shot that has hydroxyl groups in it's molecules &

making it 'magically' disappear. Potato Chips are

dangerous. Anyway. Only recently have I been

consciously choosing to put brown rice in the eggs.

It's time to branch out. I used to love oatmeal, with

lots... and lots... ... of honey & /or maple syrup.

Can't do either now. Confused. Agave syrup works, but

I even have a reaction to that, just not as bad. Any

ideas? Fruits don't seem to have enough sweetness to

work with the oats, but maybe my taste buds haven't

gotten up to speed. Say, I am confused about how much

carb to take in, is there a range of %-to-protein I

need to be looking at?

Part 4... Every day. For now I am firmly on the

path in this regard. I hope I don't give-in to the old

cycle I have had when I am working. I think I will do

well. I also think that when I get to the potato I

will find it easier to crave breakfast. If it requires

willpower I 'will' fall flat on my face, but I think K

has something there with the late night starch... I

won't jump the gun though.

Ryan

May 16, 2008

Hi Ryan,

In terms of protein intake, it isn't something that you need to monitor and

obsess about. It's actually quite simple once you get the hang of it. Take

your weight and divide it by 6. That is how many grams of protein that you need

at breakfast.

A good rule of thumb is that an egg has approx 6 grams of protein (maybe 7 if

it's a jumbo egg). So 5 eggs times 6 is 30 grams of protein. Then add some

cheese and it's probably closer to 35.

One of the wonderful gifts of this program is that it's not about counting. It's

about listening to your body. So at first you might need to do some measuring

and figuring, but as you heal over time your body will start to give you

feedback and you'll know when you're eating enough protein, or need more carbs,

or maybe some fat. It's a wonderful process that happens for everyone!

In terms of a serving of carbohydrate, that's something personal for each of us.

The point is for breakfast to last you a solid 5 hours, so you can experiment

with types of browns and amounts until you find what works. It's actually fun if

you let it be fun!

Some of my favorite things to have with oats are frozen berries (melted in the

microwave then cooked with the oats) or adding peanut butter or almond butter. I

find it very tasty! And if you are not on step 6 yet, don't worry too much about

sugar. That will come in time. One step at a time, one meal at a time. It really

works!

Tina

floatfish

Thu, 15 May 2008 20:36:44 -0700

Re: Re: welcome Ryan / Breakfast

...> so how are the 4 parts working for you? > mosaic

Mosaic,

Part 1... I have had trouble quantifying my protein

intake even though I have kept notes on exactly what I

am eating & weights. It seems psychologically easier

to calculate calories for my Dr. since I know that is

short-term, most likely. So I have the data, and I am

trying to get in gobs of protein, but I am holding the

whole issue of close scrutiny at arms length like a

used diaper (nose turned away, running). So, I need to

start being more conscious about it. I am lacto-ovo

veg, and we have chickens, so it's easy to get eggs.

And I eat sometimes 5 of them for breakfast, with goat

cheese when my weird allergy isn't going nuts. They

get old, but goat cheese makes everything better!

Part 2... Lately, I almost always eat before an

hour is up, either because I have an appointment

early, or because I am stuck here at the house (foot

injury, chilblains). But when I am working hard-core

on physical jobs, I tend to get up later than I

should, spend time doing what ain't appropriate for an

hour or 3, then eat or not, then leave for work (I am

self-employed as a Jack-of-All-Trades & have a

computer business). So I hope that this habit is

forming now, while I am recuperating from overworking

in the weather.

Part 3... I am so addicted to carbs that I find it

hard to start the day without finding anything within

eye-shot that has hydroxyl groups in it's molecules &

making it 'magically' disappear. Potato Chips are

dangerous. Anyway. Only recently have I been

consciously choosing to put brown rice in the eggs.

It's time to branch out. I used to love oatmeal, with

lots... and lots... ... of honey & /or maple syrup.

Can't do either now. Confused. Agave syrup works, but

I even have a reaction to that, just not as bad. Any

ideas? Fruits don't seem to have enough sweetness to

work with the oats, but maybe my taste buds haven't

gotten up to speed. Say, I am confused about how much

carb to take in, is there a range of %-to-protein I

need to be looking at?

Part 4... Every day. For now I am firmly on the

path in this regard. I hope I don't give-in to the old

cycle I have had when I am working. I think I will do

well. I also think that when I get to the potato I

will find it easier to crave breakfast. If it requires

willpower I 'will' fall flat on my face, but I think K

has something there with the late night starch... I

won't jump the gun though.

Ryan

_______________

Give to a good cause with every e-mail. Join the i’m Initiative from Microsoft.

http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/Join/Default.aspx?souce=EML_WL_ GoodCause

May 16, 2008

Julia,

Day by day and hour by hour is how I did it in the beginning too. And then it

gets even easier

Tina

juliadelpalacio

Thu, 15 May 2008 14:40:12 +0000

Re: welcome Ryan / Breakfast