new to list

[Guest guest]

Hey Jim, welcome! As far as meat substitute recipes, I would look in the

files section if I were you and look for the recipes " shared by PT " (list

owner). She seems to use meat subs from time to time and they turn out

good. I, myself, occasionally will use meat subs in sammiches and such but

rarely use them in recipes. What is wheat meat....is that made with gluten?

You can post your " slammin " recipe here if you like, and I will file it

for ya....anything " slam'n " gots to be good, lol. Here is a link to the

files section to get you started....

 

 

 

Maybe someone here will have a good homemade unchicken or quorn patties

recipe they can post.

 

Cheers,

Shawn

 

 

 

 

----Original Message Follows----

" Jim " <gayjim0726

 

 

Just a quick note to say hello to everyone. I have been vegetarian

for 3 1/2 yrs. Unfortunatly I do not know any other commited

vegetarians in my area (rochester ny) and I am always looking for

good ideas/recipes. I have a full schedule with little free time and

vegetarians seem to be a rare species here. I have been on the

lookout for good meat substitute recipes. I have tried making wheat

meat. It turns out spongy and nasty chewy. I am trying to get it to

be more of " chicken " texture. I do have a slam'n scrambled tofu

recipe. Do I post it here or upload as a text file?

 

BB

jim

 

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Hi. This list is pretty much defunct. No one is moderating it and basically the only thing posted here now is Spam. A couple people from here have created 2 and most everyone has moved over there. C'mon over!

 

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SnyderDawnM

Wednesday, November 05, 2003 10:12 AM

new to list

Hi everyone,My name is Dawn, and I'm new to this list. I am the founder of a nonprofit barnyard animal rescue in Queen Creek, Arizona, so I'm reminded every day while I am a vegetarian. I'm looking forward to meeting everyone on the list and getting some great recipes.The rescue is putting together a cookbook to benefit the animals in our care. We would love to have some of your great recipes, though we are limiting one per household. Our categories are soups, salads, vegetable dishes, fruit dishes, breads, desserts, dips & spreads, and beverages. Please send your recipes to recipes .Thanks for what looks to be a great list.Dawn M. SnyderLittle Foot Barnyard Animal RescueQueen Creek, AZLittlefootrescue.org (coming soon)"Saving one animal won't make a difference in the world, but it will make a world of difference for that one animal." contact owner: -owner Mail list: Delivered-mailing list List-Un: - no flaming arguing or denigration of others allowedcontact owner with complaints regarding posting/list or anything else. Thank you.please share/comment/inform and mostly enjoy this list

[Guest guest]

I MasterCook still available in stores for purchase?

 

Thanks,

LaDonna

 

http://www.VeganFoods4HealthyLiving

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Shannon,

It's so great that you are open to your daughter's changing diet! You might

consider getting her more involved in the meal planning and prep. At her age,

she could be taking a lot of the chore from you. My 13-year-old can fix an

entire meal for us (there are are only 4 of us, however). Anyway, unless your

dau is very active, y'know, cross country running, basketball, soccer, track

team, etc, she probably doesn't need as much protein as you think she does.

You are right that beans are a great source. Remember lentils and split peas,

too. As for tofu, we use the silken Japanese style in the aseptic package to

make desserts. Lime cheesecake and lemon pudding and pumpkin pie made with

tofu is the best! I'll se if I can dig out some Mastercook format recipes, if

you are interested.

Jude

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

valarie <adi_valarie> wrote:

>I have been a vegetarian for 32 years.

 

Valarie, since you say you've been a vegetarian and not a vegan, I

assume you've been eating some animal products. If my assumption is

correct, then may I ask you which non-vegetarian matter have you

consumed.

 

Kindly,

Fredrik

[Guest guest]

So...are you saying that non-vegans are essentially *not* vegetarians?

Just curious.

Angela- who is feeling good today! Depression is g-o-n-e

 

Fredrik Murman <fpm wrote:

 

 

Valarie, since you say you've been a vegetarian and not a vegan, I

assume you've been eating some animal products. If my assumption is

correct, then may I ask you which non-vegetarian matter have you

consumed.

 

Kindly,

Fredric

 

 

 

Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Messenger

 

 

[Guest guest]

I wrote " I have been a vegetarian for 32 years. "

 

Fredrik then replied [[Valarie, since you say you've been a

vegetarian and not a vegan,]]

** I never said I was never a vegan. Thirty-two years is a long

time. During which, I have run the gamut: ethics, morals, spiritual

reasons, vegan (7 our of 32 years), vegetatrian, lacto-vegetarian.

Currently I follow an Ayurvedic approach, which is lacto-vegetarian

(organic dairy).

 

Om Peace!..

Valarie

[Guest guest]

Valarie,

 

There's been a misunderstanding and it's all my fault. I didn't

imply you had said that you had never been a vegan. By the

sentence:

 

" Valarie, since you say you've been a vegetarian and

not a vegan... "

 

I meant the following:

 

" Valarie, since you say you've been a vegetarian and you don't say

you've been a vegan... "

 

But I wrote it shorter. Shouldn't have done that. The whole

question to you was badly formulated. Instead I should have

just written:

 

" Valarie, since you say you've been a vegetarian and some

people calling themselves vegetarians eat animal products,

I just wonder if you have eaten any animal products, and if

you have, then could you tell me which ones? "

 

Sorry for the whole mess!

 

Thanks,

Fredrik

 

rawfood , " valarie " <adi_valarie> wrote:

> I wrote " I have been a vegetarian for 32 years. "

>

> Fredrik then replied [[Valarie, since you say you've been a

> vegetarian and not a vegan,]]

> ** I never said I was never a vegan. Thirty-two years is a long

> time. During which, I have run the gamut: ethics, morals,

spiritual

> reasons, vegan (7 our of 32 years), vegetatrian, lacto-vegetarian.

> Currently I follow an Ayurvedic approach, which is lacto-vegetarian

> (organic dairy).

>

> Om Peace!..

> Valarie

[Guest guest]

Welcome Liz,

We were practically neighbors, I live in NE Phila.

 

On thanksgiving I NEED mashed potatoes and mushroom gravy, candied sweet

potatoes, homemade mac and cheese, creamed onions, broccoli in hollandaise

sauce, and buttered corn to smoosh in the potatoes and gravy.

Since I was a kid, before I went veg, I never ate much if none of the turkey

anyway cause all of the other stuff is so good. )

 

blessings,

Chanda

 

PS. Oh, and the cranberry!

-

bernermom1994

Wednesday, November 02, 2005 8:44 AM

New to list

 

 

I am fairly new to the list-been mostly reading your posts to get new

ideas for vegetarian recipes. My name is Liz, and I am presently

living in Orlando, FL, a transplant from south New Jersey. I have been

a vegetarian for 10 years, and with Thanksgiving approaching, I am in

my usual dilemma of trying to make some interesting vegetable dishes

for me while everyone else is scarfing down the turkey. I have found

some great ideas on this site and I am looking forward to using them

during the holidays. Does anyone have an extra special dish that you

absolutely cannot live without on Thanksgiving? I can't go without

making my stuffing, which is usually just made without a recipe-just

add ingredients as I go along.

 

Thansk for accepting me onto this list. I am sure i will get lots of

great ideas from you.

 

Liz, Orlando, FL

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Hi there

I'm new to the list, on step 3, solid with breakfast through to lunch but gave

up being veggie

to get there. Would like to change back to being veggie before continuing with

baby steps of

step 3. Does anyone have any advice. I find that the chicken and fish protein

really work for

me, and when I try to do just veggie I don't feel grounded and nourished in the

same way,

but I'm sure I could, just find it hard to get the right amount of protein with

veggie options,

and veggie cookery books don't seem to have large amounts of protein in the

recipes.

Thanks for any advice

Lucy

[Guest guest]

Lucy,

 

Welcome!

 

First about veggie protein sources, there's a file in the Files section about

protein sources as a vegetarian:

http://health.

 

I too find chicken and fish to hold me well and actually still eat meat

occasionally because my body can't do steady without it. But in terms of

phasing it out or phasing it out for the most part, perhaps you could baby step

this too. Just like sugar, you don't have to wake up tomorrow and try to change

everything you eat. When I started eating more vegetarian, I started with

dinner every other day. It was actually fun to plan and make an event out of it,

finding out what worked. And since I was still eating meat, if it turns out a

veg meal didn't hold me, I could be careful the next day, eat food I know worked

and were safe not mess up too much.

 

Jess CO

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Hi Lucy! Welcome!  It took me 2 years to fully transition to vegetarian eating.

I really had to baby step my way through. I didn't have problems with the food

holding me, but I would feel very depressed after a few days of only vegetarian

eating.  What worked for me was a transition and listening to my body to tell me

when it was ready to move on to the next step.  There was even a point where I

had to back step because I was feeling out of sorts again, but luckily my

journal helped me out there .  I will also say I was on Step 7 for while

before attempting--I think having a solid foundation of healing made a big

difference.  So I guess my advice would be baby steps and not having any

expectations about how fast you *should* be moving, hey sounds like the program

itself LOL!

Heather

 There are two ways to live your life. One is as though nothing is a miracle.

The other is as though everything is a miracle.

--Albert Einstein

 

 

 

 

fleetlucy <fleetlucy

 

Tuesday, October 14, 2008 5:59:00 AM

new to list

 

 

Hi there

I'm new to the list, on step 3, solid with breakfast through to lunch but gave

up being veggie

to get there. Would like to change back to being veggie before continuing with

baby steps of

step 3. Does anyone have any advice. I find that the chicken and fish protein

really work for

me, and when I try to do just veggie I don't feel grounded and nourished in the

same way,

but I'm sure I could, just find it hard to get the right amount of protein with

veggie options,

and veggie cookery books don't seem to have large amounts of protein in the

recipes.

Thanks for any advice

Lucy

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

, Heather Butler <hawaiihmb wrote:

>Hi Heather

Thanks for that, it's good advice, I was trying to do it straight away all in

one go, I

suppose because I was a veggie for such a long time and only steered away from

it on step

3. But I have felt so much happier and steadier with chicken and fish in me,

especialy

chicken. Thought I was just imagining it, I know my veggie friends think it is

all in my

mind. I wonder what the link is with feeling low.

Cheers

Lucy

> Hi Lucy! Welcome!  It took me 2 years to fully transition to vegetarian

eating. I really had

to baby step my way through. I didn't have problems with the food holding me,

but I

would feel very depressed after a few days of only vegetarian eating.  What

worked for me

was a transition and listening to my body to tell me when it was ready to move

on to the

next step.  There was even a point where I had to back step because I was

feeling out of

sorts again, but luckily my journal helped me out there .  I will also say I

was on Step 7

for while before attempting--I think having a solid foundation of healing made a

big

difference.  So I guess my advice would be baby steps and not having any

expectations

about how fast you *should* be moving, hey sounds like the program itself LOL!

> Heather

>  There are two ways to live your life. One is as though nothing is a miracle.

The other is

as though everything is a miracle.

> --Albert Einstein

>

>

>

>

> fleetlucy <fleetlucy

>

> Tuesday, October 14, 2008 5:59:00 AM

> new to list

>

>

> Hi there

> I'm new to the list, on step 3, solid with breakfast through to lunch but gave

up being

veggie

> to get there. Would like to change back to being veggie before continuing with

baby

steps of

> step 3. Does anyone have any advice. I find that the chicken and fish protein

really work

for

> me, and when I try to do just veggie I don't feel grounded and nourished in

the same

way,

> but I'm sure I could, just find it hard to get the right amount of protein

with veggie

options,

> and veggie cookery books don't seem to have large amounts of protein in the

recipes.

> Thanks for any advice

> Lucy

 

[Guest guest]

Lucy, I am guessing the link with feeling low is due to the bodies ability to

make veggie protein into serotonin .

 

Heather

 

There are two ways to live your life. One is as though nothing is a miracle.

The other is as though everything is a miracle.

--Albert Einstein

 

 

 

 

fleetlucy <fleetlucy

 

Tuesday, October 14, 2008 5:00:05 PM

Re: new to list

 

 

, Heather Butler <hawaiihmb@. ..>

wrote:

>Hi Heather

Thanks for that, it's good advice, I was trying to do it straight away all in

one go, I

suppose because I was a veggie for such a long time and only steered away from

it on step

3. But I have felt so much happier and steadier with chicken and fish in me,

especialy

chicken. Thought I was just imagining it, I know my veggie friends think it is

all in my

mind. I wonder what the link is with feeling low.

Cheers

Lucy

> Hi Lucy! Welcome! It took me 2 years to fully transition to vegetarian

eating. I really had

to baby step my way through. I didn't have problems with the food holding me,

but I

would feel very depressed after a few days of only vegetarian eating. What

worked for me

was a transition and listening to my body to tell me when it was ready to move

on to the

next step. There was even a point where I had to back step because I was

feeling out of

sorts again, but luckily my journal helped me out there . I will also say I

was on Step 7

for while before attempting-- I think having a solid foundation of healing made

a big

difference. So I guess my advice would be baby steps and not having any

expectations

about how fast you *should* be moving, hey sounds like the program itself LOL!

> Heather

> There are two ways to live your life. One is as though nothing is a miracle.

The other is

as though everything is a miracle.

> --Albert Einstein

>

>

>

>

> fleetlucy <fleetlucy@. ..>

>

> Tuesday, October 14, 2008 5:59:00 AM

> new to list

>

>

> Hi there

> I'm new to the list, on step 3, solid with breakfast through to lunch but gave

up being

veggie

> to get there. Would like to change back to being veggie before continuing with

baby

steps of

> step 3. Does anyone have any advice. I find that the chicken and fish protein

really work

for

> me, and when I try to do just veggie I don't feel grounded and nourished in

the same

way,

> but I'm sure I could, just find it hard to get the right amount of protein

with veggie

options,

> and veggie cookery books don't seem to have large amounts of protein in the

recipes.

> Thanks for any advice

> Lucy

 

[Guest guest]

, Heather Butler <hawaiihmb wrote:

>Heather, you mean that the body finds it easier to make meat protein into

serotonin

rather than veggie sauces? I hadn't thought of that. I'm just getting over a

bout of flu so

will eat chicken tomorrow, perhaps start out with veggie every other day.

Lucy

> Lucy, I am guessing the link with feeling low is due to the bodies ability to

make veggie

protein into serotonin .

>

> Heather

>

> There are two ways to live your life. One is as though nothing is a miracle.

The other is

as though everything is a miracle.

> --Albert Einstein

>

>

>

>

> fleetlucy <fleetlucy

>

> Tuesday, October 14, 2008 5:00:05 PM

> Re: new to list

>

>

> , Heather Butler <hawaiihmb@ ..>

wrote:

> >Hi Heather

> Thanks for that, it's good advice, I was trying to do it straight away all in

one go, I

> suppose because I was a veggie for such a long time and only steered away from

it on

step

> 3. But I have felt so much happier and steadier with chicken and fish in me,

especialy

> chicken. Thought I was just imagining it, I know my veggie friends think it is

all in my

> mind. I wonder what the link is with feeling low.

> Cheers

> Lucy

> > Hi Lucy! Welcome! It took me 2 years to fully transition to vegetarian

eating. I really

had

> to baby step my way through. I didn't have problems with the food holding me,

but I

> would feel very depressed after a few days of only vegetarian eating. What

worked for

me

> was a transition and listening to my body to tell me when it was ready to move

on to the

> next step. There was even a point where I had to back step because I was

feeling out of

> sorts again, but luckily my journal helped me out there . I will also say I

was on Step 7

> for while before attempting-- I think having a solid foundation of healing

made a big

> difference. So I guess my advice would be baby steps and not having any

expectations

> about how fast you *should* be moving, hey sounds like the program itself LOL!

> > Heather

> > There are two ways to live your life. One is as though nothing is a

miracle. The other

is

> as though everything is a miracle.

> > --Albert Einstein

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > fleetlucy <fleetlucy@ ..>

> >

> > Tuesday, October 14, 2008 5:59:00 AM

> > new to list

> >

> >

> > Hi there

> > I'm new to the list, on step 3, solid with breakfast through to lunch but

gave up being

> veggie

> > to get there. Would like to change back to being veggie before continuing

with baby

> steps of

> > step 3. Does anyone have any advice. I find that the chicken and fish

protein really

work

> for

> > me, and when I try to do just veggie I don't feel grounded and nourished in

the same

> way,

> > but I'm sure I could, just find it hard to get the right amount of protein

with veggie

> options,

> > and veggie cookery books don't seem to have large amounts of protein in the

recipes.

> > Thanks for any advice

> > Lucy

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Lucy, well I don't know for sure, but it would make sense

Heather

 

There are two ways to live your life. One is as though nothing is a miracle.

The other is as though everything is a miracle.

--Albert Einstein

 

 

 

 

fleetlucy <fleetlucy

 

Tuesday, October 14, 2008 6:31:43 PM

Re: new to list

 

 

, Heather Butler <hawaiihmb@. ..>

wrote:

>Heather, you mean that the body finds it easier to make meat protein into

serotonin

rather than veggie sauces? I hadn't thought of that. I'm just getting over a

bout of flu so

will eat chicken tomorrow, perhaps start out with veggie every other day.

Lucy

> Lucy, I am guessing the link with feeling low is due to the bodies ability to

make veggie

protein into serotonin .

>

> Heather

>

> There are two ways to live your life. One is as though nothing is a miracle.

The other is

as though everything is a miracle.

> --Albert Einstein

>

>

>

>

> fleetlucy <fleetlucy@. ..>

>

> Tuesday, October 14, 2008 5:00:05 PM

> Re: new to list

>

>

> , Heather Butler <hawaiihmb@ ..>

wrote:

> >Hi Heather

> Thanks for that, it's good advice, I was trying to do it straight away all in

one go, I

> suppose because I was a veggie for such a long time and only steered away from

it on

step

> 3. But I have felt so much happier and steadier with chicken and fish in me,

especialy

> chicken. Thought I was just imagining it, I know my veggie friends think it is

all in my

> mind. I wonder what the link is with feeling low.

> Cheers

> Lucy

> > Hi Lucy! Welcome! It took me 2 years to fully transition to vegetarian

eating. I really

had

> to baby step my way through. I didn't have problems with the food holding me,

but I

> would feel very depressed after a few days of only vegetarian eating. What

worked for

me

> was a transition and listening to my body to tell me when it was ready to move

on to the

> next step. There was even a point where I had to back step because I was

feeling out of

> sorts again, but luckily my journal helped me out there . I will also say I

was on Step 7

> for while before attempting-- I think having a solid foundation of healing

made a big

> difference. So I guess my advice would be baby steps and not having any

expectations

> about how fast you *should* be moving, hey sounds like the program itself LOL!

> > Heather

> > There are two ways to live your life. One is as though nothing is a

miracle. The other

is

> as though everything is a miracle.

> > --Albert Einstein

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > fleetlucy <fleetlucy@ ..>

> >

> > Tuesday, October 14, 2008 5:59:00 AM

> > new to list

> >

> >

> > Hi there

> > I'm new to the list, on step 3, solid with breakfast through to lunch but

gave up being

> veggie

> > to get there. Would like to change back to being veggie before continuing

with baby

> steps of

> > step 3. Does anyone have any advice. I find that the chicken and fish

protein really

work

> for

> > me, and when I try to do just veggie I don't feel grounded and nourished in

the same

> way,

> > but I'm sure I could, just find it hard to get the right amount of protein

with veggie

> options,

> > and veggie cookery books don't seem to have large amounts of protein in the

recipes.

> > Thanks for any advice

> > Lucy

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Hi Lucy,

 

I am on the gradual vegetarian plan too. Like Heather, I started

on step 7 and at first could only go a few days at a time without

animal protein or I'd get cranky. My journal was really helpful

because more days would have gone by than I thought.

 

A year later, I am now comfortable without dairy and meat. My

body still wants eggs and fish, so I eat those. I like your observations

about feeling more grounded. It's so much easier to make changes

from a grounded stable place. I would recommend continuing to

listen to your body as you've been. One thing that I liked doing was

mixing animal and vegetable protein in a meal as I gradually cut

down. I was kind of black and white about one chunk of protein.

 

JoEllen

 

 

 

 

 

, Heather Butler <hawaiihmb wrote:

>

> Hi Lucy! Welcome!  It took me 2 years to fully transition to vegetarian

eating. I really had

to baby step my way through. I didn't have problems with the food holding me,

but I

would feel very depressed after a few days of only vegetarian eating.  What

worked for me

was a transition and listening to my body to tell me when it was ready to move

on to the

next step.  There was even a point where I had to back step because I was

feeling out of

sorts again, but luckily my journal helped me out there .  I will also say I

was on Step 7

for while before attempting--I think having a solid foundation of healing made a

big

difference.  So I guess my advice would be baby steps and not having any

expectations

about how fast you *should* be moving, hey sounds like the program itself LOL!

> Heather

>  There are two ways to live your life. One is as though nothing is a miracle.

The other is

as though everything is a miracle.

> --Albert Einstein

>

>

>

>

> fleetlucy <fleetlucy

>

> Tuesday, October 14, 2008 5:59:00 AM

> new to list

>

>

> Hi there

> I'm new to the list, on step 3, solid with breakfast through to lunch but gave

up being

veggie

> to get there. Would like to change back to being veggie before continuing with

baby

steps of

> step 3. Does anyone have any advice. I find that the chicken and fish protein

really work

for

> me, and when I try to do just veggie I don't feel grounded and nourished in

the same

way,

> but I'm sure I could, just find it hard to get the right amount of protein

with veggie

options,

> and veggie cookery books don't seem to have large amounts of protein in the

recipes.

> Thanks for any advice

> Lucy

 

[Guest guest]

I am on the gradual vegetarian plan too. But I find that veggie protein

and fish usually energize me, while animal protein makes me sluggish

and sick feeling. That's the good part for me. I would go completely

veggie right now except the difficult part for me is getting enough

veggie protein at each meal and playing around with what kinds work for

my body...it's an adventure! When you change the way you eat, it's way

easier to do it in steps.

 

JJ