dopamine priming - what browns are you eating?

November 22, 2008

Ryl,

I can't speak to the dopamine priming, but I do know that my body likes a

certain amount of browns and a certain amount of protein. (For me, about a cup

of browns, and with protein, the recommended amount) I don't count quinoa as a

protein source - but when I eat it, I usually mix it with rice or potatoes or

something that feels a little more like a brown. It really is all about how I

feel. When I don't feel full or totally satisfied after a meal, I know I need

more browns. When I don't feel steady and calm, I know I need more protein.

As for browns I use:

Potatoes, sweet potatoes, millet, buckwheat (and kasha, which is roasted

buckwheat and yummy as porridge.), beans like pinto or kidney, peas and yep,

quinoa and brown rice. Those are my main ones.

Jess CO

November 22, 2008

> As for browns I use:

> Potatoes, sweet potatoes, millet, buckwheat (and kasha, which is

> roasted buckwheat and yummy as porridge.), beans like pinto or

> kidney, peas and yep, quinoa and brown rice. Those are my main ones.

>

Jess

Thanks! So do you count beans as a brown sometimes and a protein

other times?

-Ryl

November 22, 2008

I do use some beans as browns and some as proteins. Again, it's totally about

how I feel when I eat them.

Black beans, garbonzo beans, brown and green lentils, mung, adzuki, white beans

I count as protein.

Kidney, pinto, red lentils, fava beans I count as brown.

You do not have to get this complicated. They work as brown or protein. The

important part is that they can't do double duty - so if you're eating kidney

beans as a brown, you need something else (tofu, seitan, eggs etc) as a protein.

If you're using black beans as a protein, you need brown rice or millet as a

brown.

Over time, working with my journal, I found what works better as which for me,

is all.

Jess

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November 22, 2008

thanks

> I do use some beans as browns and some as proteins. Again, it's

> totally about how I feel when I eat them.

>

> Black beans, garbonzo beans, brown and green lentils, mung, adzuki,

> white beans I count as protein.

> Kidney, pinto, red lentils, fava beans I count as brown.

>

> You do not have to get this complicated. They work as brown or

> protein. The important part is that they can't do double duty - so

> if you're eating kidney beans as a brown, you need something else

> (tofu, seitan, eggs etc) as a protein. If you're using black beans

> as a protein, you need brown rice or millet as a brown.

>

> Over time, working with my journal, I found what works better as

> which for me, is all.

>

> Jess

>

November 23, 2008

Hi Ryl,

Sometimes in a pinch, when traveling use Mary's Crackers from Whole

Foods or the local market when they have them is stock. When @ home

Oats are really good, Coaches Oats from Costco, Irish Steel Cut Oats,

Quaker Oats, and when I get really board go to Bob's 10 grain cereal.

Im not really sure about the whole Glueton thing, perhaps the

crackers would be good, think the founder of that company could not

eat glueton.

Welcome to the group.

Bob

, Ryl Brock Wilson <ryl

wrote:

>

> thanks

> > I do use some beans as browns and some as proteins. Again, it's

> > totally about how I feel when I eat them.

> >

> > Black beans, garbonzo beans, brown and green lentils, mung,

adzuki,

> > white beans I count as protein.

> > Kidney, pinto, red lentils, fava beans I count as brown.

> >

> > You do not have to get this complicated. They work as brown or

> > protein. The important part is that they can't do double duty -

so

> > if you're eating kidney beans as a brown, you need something

else

> > (tofu, seitan, eggs etc) as a protein. If you're using black

beans

> > as a protein, you need brown rice or millet as a brown.

> >

> > Over time, working with my journal, I found what works better as

> > which for me, is all.

> >

> > Jess

> >

>

November 23, 2008

> Sometimes in a pinch, when traveling use Mary's Crackers from Whole

> Foods or the local market when they have them is stock. When @ home

> Oats are really good, Coaches Oats from Costco, Irish Steel Cut Oats,

> Quaker Oats, and when I get really board go to Bob's 10 grain cereal.

>

> Im not really sure about the whole Glueton thing, perhaps the

> crackers would be good, think the founder of that company could not

> eat glueton.

>

> Welcome to the group.

>

Bob

Thanks for sharing. Making me think oats might be a good brown to

look into again and see if they work breakfast.

-Ryl

November 26, 2008

Hi Ryl,

I don't know about dopamine priming (and I'd love to) but I can tell

you what browns I eat.

I eat a lot of oats (just about every morning for my breakfast brown),

and I wonder if you'd tolerate them. There are " gluten free " oat

available. I understand that oats have one of the two types of gluten

and that some gluten-sensitive folks do okay with them.

Anyhoo...I also eat sweet potatoes, brown rice, millet, beans

(legumes) & lentils (both fairly high in protein), potatoes, and wild

rice. The wild rice in the RR store is fabulous!

I use quinoa sometimes, too, though it's not the best brown for me. I

don't know why. I can eat corn, but it isn't the best brown for me

either.

When I eat beans, lentils, and quinoa as browns, I do count some of

that protein toward my requirement. It's taken me a while to figure

that out. If I have beans for a brown, for example, then I also have

a bit of rice. Some beans are more " densely brown " for me than

others; same is true on the protein side. I don't know if everyone

experiences this; maybe I notice it because I eat a lot of beans.

It sounds to me like you're really learning a lot about your body &

her needs. Thanks for sharing! Cinzia

, Ryl Brock Wilson <ryl

wrote:

>

> So, I'm not sure I understand dopamine priming. Is it the high

> protein carb that's related to dopamine priming or the total protein

> amount in a meal?

>

> Would you recommend that when I do eat a meal with quinoa I have it

> count for some of the 65g of protein for the day?

>

> I can eat more brown rice. I just burnt out on it. I'm not eating

> corn (it's trigger food for me), oats, barley, and wheat (nothing

> with gluten in it).

>

> Any other browns to suggest? What browns are you guys eating?

>

> thanks

>

> -Ryl

>

November 26, 2008

>

Cinzia

Thanks for sharing what you are doing with browns. I am a little

nervous about introducing in things I don't already eat like oats and

sweet potatoes. So I'm trying things with what I know works - beans,

eggs and brown rice.

Thanks again.

-Ryl

> I don't know about dopamine priming (and I'd love to) but I can tell

> you what browns I eat.

>

> I eat a lot of oats (just about every morning for my breakfast brown),

> and I wonder if you'd tolerate them. There are " gluten free " oat

> available. I understand that oats have one of the two types of gluten

> and that some gluten-sensitive folks do okay with them.

>

> Anyhoo...I also eat sweet potatoes, brown rice, millet, beans

> (legumes) & lentils (both fairly high in protein), potatoes, and wild

> rice. The wild rice in the RR store is fabulous!

>

> I use quinoa sometimes, too, though it's not the best brown for me. I

> don't know why. I can eat corn, but it isn't the best brown for me

> either.

>

> When I eat beans, lentils, and quinoa as browns, I do count some of

> that protein toward my requirement. It's taken me a while to figure

> that out. If I have beans for a brown, for example, then I also have

> a bit of rice. Some beans are more " densely brown " for me than

> others; same is true on the protein side. I don't know if everyone

> experiences this; maybe I notice it because I eat a lot of beans.

>

> It sounds to me like you're really learning a lot about your body &

> her needs. Thanks for sharing! Cinzia

>

> , Ryl Brock Wilson <ryl

> wrote:

> >

>

> >

> > So, I'm not sure I understand dopamine priming. Is it the high

> > protein carb that's related to dopamine priming or the total protein

> > amount in a meal?

> >

> > Would you recommend that when I do eat a meal with quinoa I have it

> > count for some of the 65g of protein for the day?

> >

> > I can eat more brown rice. I just burnt out on it. I'm not eating

> > corn (it's trigger food for me), oats, barley, and wheat (nothing

> > with gluten in it).

> >

> > Any other browns to suggest? What browns are you guys eating?

> >

> > thanks

> >

> > -Ryl

> >

>

-Ryl

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December 4, 2008

I'm looking at a few of the recent posts...

I don't know if this will help at all, but I often mix quinoa with

millet. I always found millet a bit too bland, and sometimes quinoa is

a bit too assertive. But they cook in the same length of time, using

the same amount of water, are roughly the same size grain, and make a

very nice combination.

I keep some separate, but just mix some half and half in a container.

Then I do rinse, as I would the quinoa alone, and cook. It's one of my

favorite quick browns. DP likes it, too.

I'd never thought about the protein amount. Looking it up, I find

that, while quinoa has more protein than most grains, millet has

less... so I guess that balances, too.

Anne

, Ryl Brock Wilson <ryl

wrote:

>

> I did an email consult with Kathleen which was great (thanks again,

> Kathleen) and have some questions she said would be great for this list.

>

> > Kathleen wrote:

> > Quinoa is very high in protein. I would suggest picking a different

> > brown. The idea is to reduce the amount of dopamine priming.

>

> So, I'm not sure I understand dopamine priming. Is it the high

> protein carb that's related to dopamine priming or the total protein

> amount in a meal?

>

> Would you recommend that when I do eat a meal with quinoa I have it

> count for some of the 65g of protein for the day?

>

> I can eat more brown rice. I just burnt out on it. I'm not eating

> corn (it's trigger food for me), oats, barley, and wheat (nothing

> with gluten in it).

>

> Any other browns to suggest? What browns are you guys eating?

>

> thanks

>

> -Ryl

>

December 4, 2008

Great tip, Anne! It never occurred to me to mix millet and quinoa before!

Heather

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