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Hi! Having joined this list, I thought I should introduce myself.

 

I've been doing RR for several years now, on Step Seven for about a

year and a half.

 

I am not, never have been, and do not intend to become actually fully

vegetarian. (If that bothers anyone, I'm sorry - feel free to

ignore...)

 

However, I have in the past had a long period, 20 years or more, when

I ate very little meat, and almost never cooked it myself. I went back

to it when I found I had a problem with dairy, and that my body needed

animal protein, and increased the amount when I started RR, and needed

the solid protein (beans and grains just did not give me enough for my

body, unless I ate more than I wanted.)

 

Now that I'm feeling steady, though, I'm pulling back. I'm eating

smaller amounts of better meat, buying it from local farmers rather

than the supermarket, and using small amounts to increase the protein

in my bean dishes. I am also, as a woman in my early 50s, finding that

larger amounts of soy than I had previously eaten help control some

symptoms of perimenopause.

 

I have also found that I can eat goat and sheep cheese, and found a

good source of it that I can afford (I don't want to live on chevre

alone...) I am also starting to tolerate small amounts of cow dairy

without the congestion it used to cause - I don't know if removing

the inflammatory effect of sugar helped, or what, but it's nice! This

also gives me more options.

 

Luckily, my DP is going along with the whole thing. He has always

preferred to eat very little red meat, to avoid fat, has also been

encouraged to eat soy (though he eats less of that than I do) and,

perhaps most important, likes my cooking!

 

I was on this list when I first started RR, but it was very quiet,

then, and I felt odd, as I was increasing meat use. Now that I have

gathered it is more active, and I'm cooking more vegetarian meals, I

thought it was time to rejoin.

 

Anne

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Hi Anne, welcome!! You don't have to be completely vegetarian to be on the

list, we just ask that we keep the conversations on vegetarian

needs/concerns/issues, etc. So glad to hear your finding your intolerances have

subsided. I have a farmer's market near my house that has two goat cheese and

two sheep cheese vendors. There is so much variety beyond chevre when you look

for it! :)

Heather

 

There are two ways to live your life. One is as though nothing is a miracle.

The other is as though everything is a miracle.

--Albert Einstein

 

 

 

 

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Anne F <cityladya

 

Wednesday, December 3, 2008 6:46:56 PM

Introduction

 

 

Hi! Having joined this list, I thought I should introduce myself.

 

I've been doing RR for several years now, on Step Seven for about a

year and a half.

 

I am not, never have been, and do not intend to become actually fully

vegetarian. (If that bothers anyone, I'm sorry - feel free to

ignore...)

 

However, I have in the past had a long period, 20 years or more, when

I ate very little meat, and almost never cooked it myself. I went back

to it when I found I had a problem with dairy, and that my body needed

animal protein, and increased the amount when I started RR, and needed

the solid protein (beans and grains just did not give me enough for my

body, unless I ate more than I wanted.)

 

Now that I'm feeling steady, though, I'm pulling back. I'm eating

smaller amounts of better meat, buying it from local farmers rather

than the supermarket, and using small amounts to increase the protein

in my bean dishes. I am also, as a woman in my early 50s, finding that

larger amounts of soy than I had previously eaten help control some

symptoms of perimenopause.

 

I have also found that I can eat goat and sheep cheese, and found a

good source of it that I can afford (I don't want to live on chevre

alone...) I am also starting to tolerate small amounts of cow dairy

without the congestion it used to cause - I don't know if removing

the inflammatory effect of sugar helped, or what, but it's nice! This

also gives me more options.

 

Luckily, my DP is going along with the whole thing. He has always

preferred to eat very little red meat, to avoid fat, has also been

encouraged to eat soy (though he eats less of that than I do) and,

perhaps most important, likes my cooking!

 

I was on this list when I first started RR, but it was very quiet,

then, and I felt odd, as I was increasing meat use. Now that I have

gathered it is more active, and I'm cooking more vegetarian meals, I

thought it was time to rejoin.

 

Anne

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Thank you!

 

I can get a wide variety of cheeses here in New York City, but most

places treat them as " gourmet " items, and they are ridiculously

expensive, even at the farmer's market. But there's a cheese place

nearby which always has sheep feta, which has become my staple, and

often others. Right now, they have " goat curds " which is someplace

between cottage and pot cheese, and has given me back a lot of my old

recipes. (Yes, I truly miss cottage cheese - it's just so versatile!)

 

Anne

 

On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 7:57 PM, Heather Butler <hawaiihmb wrote:

> Hi Anne, welcome!! You don't have to be completely vegetarian to be on the

list, we just ask that we keep the conversations on vegetarian

needs/concerns/issues, etc. So glad to hear your finding your intolerances have

subsided. I have a farmer's market near my house that has two goat cheese and

two sheep cheese vendors. There is so much variety beyond chevre when you look

for it! :)

> Heather

>

> There are two ways to live your life. One is as though nothing is a miracle.

The other is as though everything is a miracle.

> --Albert Einstein

>

>

>

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Anne, well yes, the cheese at the farmer's market is pretty expensive, here too.

Oh I know Whole Foods has some great goat milk cheese--staples like cheddar

even! What is pot cheese, I've never heard of that?

Heather

 

There are two ways to live your life. One is as though nothing is a miracle.

The other is as though everything is a miracle.

--Albert Einstein

 

 

 

 

________________________________

Anne F <cityladya

 

Wednesday, December 3, 2008 10:12:26 PM

Re: Introduction

 

 

Thank you!

 

I can get a wide variety of cheeses here in New York City, but most

places treat them as " gourmet " items, and they are ridiculously

expensive, even at the farmer's market. But there's a cheese place

nearby which always has sheep feta, which has become my staple, and

often others. Right now, they have " goat curds " which is someplace

between cottage and pot cheese, and has given me back a lot of my old

recipes. (Yes, I truly miss cottage cheese - it's just so versatile!)

 

Anne

 

On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 7:57 PM, Heather Butler <hawaiihmb > wrote:

> Hi Anne, welcome!! You don't have to be completely vegetarian to be on the

list, we just ask that we keep the conversations on vegetarian needs/concerns/

issues, etc. So glad to hear your finding your intolerances have subsided. I

have a farmer's market near my house that has two goat cheese and two sheep

cheese vendors. There is so much variety beyond chevre when you look for it! :)

> Heather

>

> There are two ways to live your life. One is as though nothing is a miracle.

The other is as though everything is a miracle.

> --Albert Einstein

>

>

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Pot cheese or Farmer's cheese are sort of like a dense hard curd

cottage cheese. The names are regional, and I think there are slight

variations - actually called farmer's cheese around here. They haven't

really been readily available for a while, I think, but a lot of my

older cookbooks call for them. I don't think anyone eats them plain,

but they're useful for cooking.

 

Anne

 

On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 7:56 AM, Heather Butler <hawaiihmb wrote:

> Anne, well yes, the cheese at the farmer's market is pretty expensive, here

too. Oh I know Whole Foods has some great goat milk cheese--staples like

cheddar even! What is pot cheese, I've never heard of that?

> Heather

>

> There are two ways to live your life. One is as though nothing is a miracle.

The other is as though everything is a miracle.

> --Albert Einstein

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> Anne F <cityladya

>

> Wednesday, December 3, 2008 10:12:26 PM

> Re: Introduction

>

>

> Thank you!

>

> I can get a wide variety of cheeses here in New York City, but most

> places treat them as " gourmet " items, and they are ridiculously

> expensive, even at the farmer's market. But there's a cheese place

> nearby which always has sheep feta, which has become my staple, and

> often others. Right now, they have " goat curds " which is someplace

> between cottage and pot cheese, and has given me back a lot of my old

> recipes. (Yes, I truly miss cottage cheese - it's just so versatile!)

>

> Anne

>

> On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 7:57 PM, Heather Butler <hawaiihmb > wrote:

>> Hi Anne, welcome!! You don't have to be completely vegetarian to be on the

list, we just ask that we keep the conversations on vegetarian needs/concerns/

issues, etc. So glad to hear your finding your intolerances have subsided. I

have a farmer's market near my house that has two goat cheese and two sheep

cheese vendors. There is so much variety beyond chevre when you look for it! :)

>> Heather

>>

>> There are two ways to live your life. One is as though nothing is a miracle.

The other is as though everything is a miracle.

>> --Albert Einstein

>>

>>

>

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Anne, I think one of the places at my farmer's market has those with cow's milk.

Ok, sorry for more questions LOL... but what kinds of things do you use it for

when cooking?

Heather

 

There are two ways to live your life. One is as though nothing is a miracle.

The other is as though everything is a miracle.

--Albert Einstein

 

 

 

 

________________________________

Anne F <cityladya

 

Thursday, December 4, 2008 10:44:35 AM

Re: Introduction

 

 

Pot cheese or Farmer's cheese are sort of like a dense hard curd

cottage cheese. The names are regional, and I think there are slight

variations - actually called farmer's cheese around here. They haven't

really been readily available for a while, I think, but a lot of my

older cookbooks call for them. I don't think anyone eats them plain,

but they're useful for cooking.

 

Anne

 

On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 7:56 AM, Heather Butler <hawaiihmb > wrote:

> Anne, well yes, the cheese at the farmer's market is pretty expensive, here

too. Oh I know Whole Foods has some great goat milk cheese--staples like

cheddar even! What is pot cheese, I've never heard of that?

> Heather

>

> There are two ways to live your life. One is as though nothing is a miracle.

The other is as though everything is a miracle.

> --Albert Einstein

>

>

>

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> Anne F <cityladya (AT) gmail (DOT) com>

>

> Wednesday, December 3, 2008 10:12:26 PM

> Re: Introduction

>

>

> Thank you!

>

> I can get a wide variety of cheeses here in New York City, but most

> places treat them as " gourmet " items, and they are ridiculously

> expensive, even at the farmer's market. But there's a cheese place

> nearby which always has sheep feta, which has become my staple, and

> often others. Right now, they have " goat curds " which is someplace

> between cottage and pot cheese, and has given me back a lot of my old

> recipes. (Yes, I truly miss cottage cheese - it's just so versatile!)

>

> Anne

>

> On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 7:57 PM, Heather Butler <hawaiihmb > wrote:

>> Hi Anne, welcome!! You don't have to be completely vegetarian to be on the

list, we just ask that we keep the conversations on vegetarian needs/concerns/

issues, etc. So glad to hear your finding your intolerances have subsided. I

have a farmer's market near my house that has two goat cheese and two sheep

cheese vendors. There is so much variety beyond chevre when you look for it! :)

>> Heather

>>

>> There are two ways to live your life. One is as though nothing is a miracle.

The other is as though everything is a miracle.

>> --Albert Einstein

>>

>>

>

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LOL! Questions! I get questions! I've heard of an enthusiastic

welcome, but... ROFLOL

 

Seriously, I have a good 30 years of mostly vegetarian cooking behind me, so...

 

Well, this cheese has only been available for a while. I've made

quiche a couple of times. I've made a cheesy sauce for noodles. I've

put it in with eggs. I've stirred a few spoonfuls into vegetable soup

to make it creamy and increase the protein - which rather helped a

soup I made that wasn't very interesting.

 

I need to make more noodles, then make Hungarian Noodles, one of my

old favorites. Cook cabbage with onion and Hungarian paprika, serve it

with warmed cottage cheese and cooked noodles. (We were in a CSA this

summer, and still have lots of cabbage...)

 

Anne

 

 

 

On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 10:47 AM, Heather Butler <hawaiihmb wrote:

> Anne, I think one of the places at my farmer's market has those with cow's

milk. Ok, sorry for more questions LOL... but what kinds of things do you use

it for when cooking?

> Heather

>

> There are two ways to live your life. One is as though nothing is a miracle.

The other is as though everything is a miracle.

> --Albert Einstein

>

>

>

>

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