Guest guest Posted January 13, 2009 Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 Hi there I'm really struggling. I am on step 3. The step 3 group is fantastic for giving support, but I get a lot of feed back about veggie protein not holding people. I have been vegetarian for 18 years but started to eat chicken and fish on step 3. I did find it made a difference, but really struggle with it. I'm trying to compromise by eating just one veggie meal a day. But when I mention for instance lentil soup/broth with enough lentils in it for protein served with lots of whole wheat pitta the response was that my body may not experience it as a protein but as a brown. The thought of eating chicken or fish at every meal doesn't feel good to me and I'm slipping around all over the place because of this dilemma. Is anyone out there still vegetarian? Does anyone else have a similar dilemma? Lucie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2009 Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 I understand this totally. I've decided it must be an individual thing. For some people, vegetarian protein foods don't hold them, but I know that for me, I hold just fine on beans or lentils, as long as I eat enough of them to get the right amount of protein. I'm not vegetarian, but I have a hard time eating lots of animal foods. My body isn't happy with lots of meat and/or dairy. So I think your journal will probably give you hints as to whether pulses/legumes are enough to tide you over to the next meal. Shauna On Jan 13, 2009, at 3:22 AM, fleetlucy wrote: > Hi there > > I'm really struggling. I am on step 3. The step 3 group is > fantastic for giving support, but I > get a lot of feed back about veggie protein not holding people. I > have been vegetarian for 18 > years but started to eat chicken and fish on step 3. I did find it > made a difference, but really > struggle with it. I'm trying to compromise by eating just one > veggie meal a day. But when I > mention for instance lentil soup/broth with enough lentils in it > for protein served with lots of > whole wheat pitta the response was that my body may not experience > it as a protein but as a > brown. The thought of eating chicken or fish at every meal doesn't > feel good to me and I'm > slipping around all over the place because of this dilemma. Is > anyone out there still > vegetarian? Does anyone else have a similar dilemma? > > Lucie > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2009 Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 Hi Lucie, welcome to the group. You mention you are on Step 3, so you must be journaling, right? Are you seeing any clues to how the lentil meal is working for you? I am vegetarian, although I made the switch over in August. Prior to that I was still eating some animal meats. I've been doing the program since 2001 and I have found that the steadier I get the more comfortable my body is with vegetable proteins. I still have to journal and keep a close eye on things, though . Heather There are two ways to live your life. One is as though nothing is a miracle. The other is as though everything is a miracle. --Albert Einstein ________________________________ fleetlucy <fleetlucy Tuesday, January 13, 2009 3:22:40 AM having problems Hi there I'm really struggling. I am on step 3. The step 3 group is fantastic for giving support, but I get a lot of feed back about veggie protein not holding people. I have been vegetarian for 18 years but started to eat chicken and fish on step 3. I did find it made a difference, but really struggle with it. I'm trying to compromise by eating just one veggie meal a day. But when I mention for instance lentil soup/broth with enough lentils in it for protein served with lots of whole wheat pitta the response was that my body may not experience it as a protein but as a brown. The thought of eating chicken or fish at every meal doesn't feel good to me and I'm slipping around all over the place because of this dilemma. Is anyone out there still vegetarian? Does anyone else have a similar dilemma? Lucie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2009 Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 , skboren <skboren wrote: >Hi shauna, thanks for this, I shall experiment with one meal a day for a while and see how it goes. I have definitely noticed a positive difference since eating chicken and fish again, its just that sometimes I feel really guilty. Still I guess it's just about finding out what works in order to continue with the steps. Lucie > I understand this totally. I've decided it must be an individual > thing. For some people, vegetarian protein foods don't hold them, but > I know that for me, I hold just fine on beans or lentils, as long as > I eat enough of them to get the right amount of protein. I'm not > vegetarian, but I have a hard time eating lots of animal foods. My > body isn't happy with lots of meat and/or dairy. So I think your > journal will probably give you hints as to whether pulses/legumes are > enough to tide you over to the next meal. > > Shauna > > > > On Jan 13, 2009, at 3:22 AM, fleetlucy wrote: > > > Hi there > > > > I'm really struggling. I am on step 3. The step 3 group is > > fantastic for giving support, but I > > get a lot of feed back about veggie protein not holding people. I > > have been vegetarian for 18 > > years but started to eat chicken and fish on step 3. I did find it > > made a difference, but really > > struggle with it. I'm trying to compromise by eating just one > > veggie meal a day. But when I > > mention for instance lentil soup/broth with enough lentils in it > > for protein served with lots of > > whole wheat pitta the response was that my body may not experience > > it as a protein but as a > > brown. The thought of eating chicken or fish at every meal doesn't > > feel good to me and I'm > > slipping around all over the place because of this dilemma. Is > > anyone out there still > > vegetarian? Does anyone else have a similar dilemma? > > > > Lucie > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2009 Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 , Heather Butler <hawaiihmb wrote: >Hi Heather, thank you for your welcome, I put chicken and fish back into my diet last year and noticed a big positive difference, I find that if I make a dahl and brown rice from lentils I seem to be okay, but if I make lentil soup or dahl and eat it with whole wheat it isn't okay. I gues it will have to be a process of experimentation and reflection. I am trying for one veggie meal a day, because I definitely get unsteady if I cut out chicken and fish completely. Perhaps that is something that will change with time. I began the program properly at the beginning of 2008 (tried to speed through it before that time). Step 3 is definitely the one that I find hard to be consistent with. I'm fine with breakfast through to lunch with proper amount of protein and complex carb but I often don't feel that hungry in the evening when its time to eat again. This is when it can go wrong through just eating cheese and rice cakes or oatcakes. When I eat a proper meal I do feel better so I am trying to get consistent with this. I am also trying to make it a veggie one. Perhaps trying to do too many things at once. Lucie > Hi Lucie, welcome to the group. You mention you are on Step 3, so you must be journaling, right? Are you seeing any clues to how the lentil meal is working for you? > > I am vegetarian, although I made the switch over in August. Prior to that I was still eating some animal meats. I've been doing the program since 2001 and I have found that the steadier I get the more comfortable my body is with vegetable proteins. I still have to journal and keep a close eye on things, though . > > Heather > > There are two ways to live your life. One is as though nothing is a miracle. The other is as though everything is a miracle. > --Albert Einstein > > > > > ________________________________ > fleetlucy <fleetlucy > > Tuesday, January 13, 2009 3:22:40 AM > having problems > > > Hi there > > I'm really struggling. I am on step 3. The step 3 group is fantastic for giving support, but I > get a lot of feed back about veggie protein not holding people. I have been vegetarian for 18 > years but started to eat chicken and fish on step 3. I did find it made a difference, but really > struggle with it. I'm trying to compromise by eating just one veggie meal a day. But when I > mention for instance lentil soup/broth with enough lentils in it for protein served with lots of > whole wheat pitta the response was that my body may not experience it as a protein but as a > brown. The thought of eating chicken or fish at every meal doesn't feel good to me and I'm > slipping around all over the place because of this dilemma. Is anyone out there still > vegetarian? Does anyone else have a similar dilemma? > > Lucie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2009 Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 Well, what you will eventually need to find is if it holds your body - not mine, not theirs, but yours. That can be a bit difficult to be sure of in early steps, though, I know. (Ah - you posted again, and now, it doesn't. OK.) Would other non-meat animal proteins feel more comfortable for you? Eggs or cheese, perhaps? They're also quite dense. I need more protein in a meal than you do, and have trouble getting it all with beans. I often solve that by adding some cheese or egg. Sometimes I melt cheese into soup or chili, sometimes I'll have it on the side... Or, as I'm not actually vegetarian, I'll often do a small amount of meat in a basically bean dish. These might feel better for you, while you figure out what your body needs. Also, you may find that even if you need the denser protein now, while you're healing, the lentil soup just might hold you better down the road. Experiences seem to differ, there. You'll be better able to determine that when you're steady on Seven. Anne On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 3:22 AM, fleetlucy <fleetlucy wrote: > Hi there > > I'm really struggling. I am on step 3. The step 3 group is fantastic for giving support, but I > get a lot of feed back about veggie protein not holding people. I have been vegetarian for 18 > years but started to eat chicken and fish on step 3. I did find it made a difference, but really > struggle with it. I'm trying to compromise by eating just one veggie meal a day. But when I > mention for instance lentil soup/broth with enough lentils in it for protein served with lots of > whole wheat pitta the response was that my body may not experience it as a protein but as a > brown. The thought of eating chicken or fish at every meal doesn't feel good to me and I'm > slipping around all over the place because of this dilemma. Is anyone out there still > vegetarian? Does anyone else have a similar dilemma? > > Lucie > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2009 Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 Lucie, This is awesome detective work! I too find that eating chicken and fish make me a much steadier human being. But ironically, I am also finding that I miss vegetarian meals if I eat too many with meat too. Something about the combination - bean and fish and chicken meals over a few days make me feel really good. Just some things from my own experience, as you mentioned about brown rice vs. whole wheat. I find the brown as important as the vegetarian protein sources I choose. Whole grains hold me so much better than say, rice cakes. The other thing that I discovered in my journal is that certain beans I can't count as protein because they don't hold me, like lentils and pinto beans, and vice versa, certain beans I can't count as browns because they're not fast enough, like black beans and chickpeas. I don't eat dairy or soy, so I have to be very careful. I'm sure combining with cheese and eggs would get you to satiety that lasts all day. Ironically, my step 3 became much stronger when I began to eat vegetarian meals because I got really conscious of how food affects me and what feeling good or bad really feels like. Jess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2009 Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 Hi Lucy! I am on Step 6 and still eat chicken and fish. My breakfast is always vegetarian because I simply can't face meat of any kind in the morning - my body rejects it!LOL! I have vegetarian lunches about half the time and usually have some fish or chicken at dinner since my family is not vegetarian and it's hard right now to cook two meals. I tried to switch to two meals a day vegetarian and then three, but with concentrating so hard on beginning Step 6, I was having trouble concentrating on what proteins worked for me and what combinations were enough - it made me a bit wonky so I added chicken and fish back in for now. Definately trying to concentrate on too many things at once! I am the kind of person who needs to do things in steps/chunks for them to stick! I have also heard other people say that it was easier to make the switch on step 7, rather than earlier. Welcome! JJ , " fleetlucy " <fleetlucy wrote: > > , Heather Butler <hawaiihmb@> wrote: > >Hi Heather, thank you for your welcome, > > I put chicken and fish back into my diet last year and noticed a big positive difference, I > find that if I make a dahl and brown rice from lentils I seem to be okay, but if I make lentil > soup or dahl and eat it with whole wheat it isn't okay. I gues it will have to be a process > of experimentation and reflection. I am trying for one veggie meal a day, because I > definitely get unsteady if I cut out chicken and fish completely. Perhaps that is something > that will change with time. I began the program properly at the beginning of 2008 (tried > to speed through it before that time). Step 3 is definitely the one that I find hard to be > consistent with. I'm fine with breakfast through to lunch with proper amount of protein > and complex carb but I often don't feel that hungry in the evening when its time to eat > again. This is when it can go wrong through just eating cheese and rice cakes or oatcakes. > When I eat a proper meal I do feel better so I am trying to get consistent with this. I am > also trying to make it a veggie one. Perhaps trying to do too many things at once. > > Lucie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2009 Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 , " Anne F " <cityladya wrote: >Anne Thank you for all of this, you have given me lots to think about. Lucie > Well, what you will eventually need to find is if it holds your body - > not mine, not theirs, but yours. That can be a bit difficult to be > sure of in early steps, though, I know. (Ah - you posted again, and > now, it doesn't. OK.) > > Would other non-meat animal proteins feel more comfortable for you? > Eggs or cheese, perhaps? They're also quite dense. > > I need more protein in a meal than you do, and have trouble getting it > all with beans. I often solve that by adding some cheese or egg. > Sometimes I melt cheese into soup or chili, sometimes I'll have it on > the side... Or, as I'm not actually vegetarian, I'll often do a small > amount of meat in a basically bean dish. These might feel better for > you, while you figure out what your body needs. > > Also, you may find that even if you need the denser protein now, while > you're healing, the lentil soup just might hold you better down the > road. Experiences seem to differ, there. You'll be better able to > determine that when you're steady on Seven. > > Anne > > On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 3:22 AM, fleetlucy <fleetlucy wrote: > > Hi there > > > > I'm really struggling. I am on step 3. The step 3 group is fantastic for giving support, but I > > get a lot of feed back about veggie protein not holding people. I have been vegetarian for 18 > > years but started to eat chicken and fish on step 3. I did find it made a difference, but really > > struggle with it. I'm trying to compromise by eating just one veggie meal a day. But when I > > mention for instance lentil soup/broth with enough lentils in it for protein served with lots of > > whole wheat pitta the response was that my body may not experience it as a protein but as a > > brown. The thought of eating chicken or fish at every meal doesn't feel good to me and I'm > > slipping around all over the place because of this dilemma. Is anyone out there still > > vegetarian? Does anyone else have a similar dilemma? > > > > Lucie > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2009 Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 , Jessica Vaughan <londonoctober wrote: >Jess This has given me lots of hope and encouragement thank you, I shall continue experimenting. Lucie > Lucie, > > This is awesome detective work! > > I too find that eating chicken and fish make me a much steadier human being. But ironically, I am also finding that I miss vegetarian meals if I eat too many with meat too. Something about the combination - bean and fish and chicken meals over a few days make me feel really good. > > Just some things from my own experience, as you mentioned about brown rice vs. whole wheat. I find the brown as important as the vegetarian protein sources I choose. Whole grains hold me so much better than say, rice cakes. > > The other thing that I discovered in my journal is that certain beans I can't count as protein because they don't hold me, like lentils and pinto beans, and vice versa, certain beans I can't count as browns because they're not fast enough, like black beans and chickpeas. I don't eat dairy or soy, so I have to be very careful. I'm sure combining with cheese and eggs would get you to satiety that lasts all day. > > Ironically, my step 3 became much stronger when I began to eat vegetarian meals because I got really conscious of how food affects me and what feeling good or bad really feels like. > > Jess > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2009 Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 , " jjames1010 " <jjames1010 wrote: >JJ This has all been really useful to hear, I find it easier to do things in bits too, and thanks for the welcome Lucie > Hi Lucy! > I am on Step 6 and still eat chicken and fish. My breakfast is > always vegetarian because I simply can't face meat of any kind in > the morning - my body rejects it!LOL! > I have vegetarian lunches about half the time and usually have some > fish or chicken at dinner since my family is not vegetarian and it's > hard right now to cook two meals. > I tried to switch to two meals a day vegetarian and then three, but > with concentrating so hard on beginning Step 6, I was having trouble > concentrating on what proteins worked for me and what combinations > were enough - it made me a bit wonky so I added chicken and fish > back in for now. Definately trying to concentrate on too many things > at once! I am the kind of person who needs to do things in > steps/chunks for them to stick! I have also heard other people say > that it was easier to make the switch on step 7, rather than earlier. > > Welcome! > JJ > > , " fleetlucy " > <fleetlucy@> wrote: > > > > , Heather Butler > <hawaiihmb@> wrote: > > >Hi Heather, thank you for your welcome, > > > > I put chicken and fish back into my diet last year and noticed a > big positive difference, I > > find that if I make a dahl and brown rice from lentils I seem to > be okay, but if I make lentil > > soup or dahl and eat it with whole wheat it isn't okay. I gues it > will have to be a process > > of experimentation and reflection. I am trying for one veggie > meal a day, because I > > definitely get unsteady if I cut out chicken and fish completely. > Perhaps that is something > > that will change with time. I began the program properly at the > beginning of 2008 (tried > > to speed through it before that time). Step 3 is definitely the > one that I find hard to be > > consistent with. I'm fine with breakfast through to lunch with > proper amount of protein > > and complex carb but I often don't feel that hungry in the evening > when its time to eat > > again. This is when it can go wrong through just eating cheese > and rice cakes or oatcakes. > > When I eat a proper meal I do feel better so I am trying to get > consistent with this. I am > > also trying to make it a veggie one. Perhaps trying to do too > many things at once. > > > > Lucie > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2009 Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 Hi everyone, This discussion is so helpful. Thanks for bringing it up, and for everyone's responses. Janine On Jan 13, 2009, at 2:08 PM, fleetlucy wrote: > , " Anne F " <cityladya > wrote: > >Anne > > Thank you for all of this, you have given me lots to think about. > > Lucie > > Well, what you will eventually need to find is if it holds your > body - > > not mine, not theirs, but yours. That can be a bit difficult to be > > sure of in early steps, though, I know. (Ah - you posted again, and > > now, it doesn't. OK.) > > > > Would other non-meat animal proteins feel more comfortable for you? > > Eggs or cheese, perhaps? They're also quite dense. > > > > I need more protein in a meal than you do, and have trouble > getting it > > all with beans. I often solve that by adding some cheese or egg. > > Sometimes I melt cheese into soup or chili, sometimes I'll have it > on > > the side... Or, as I'm not actually vegetarian, I'll often do a > small > > amount of meat in a basically bean dish. These might feel better for > > you, while you figure out what your body needs. > > > > Also, you may find that even if you need the denser protein now, > while > > you're healing, the lentil soup just might hold you better down the > > road. Experiences seem to differ, there. You'll be better able to > > determine that when you're steady on Seven. > > > > Anne > > > > On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 3:22 AM, fleetlucy <fleetlucy wrote: > > > Hi there > > > > > > I'm really struggling. I am on step 3. The step 3 group is > fantastic for giving support, > but I > > > get a lot of feed back about veggie protein not holding people. > I have been > vegetarian for 18 > > > years but started to eat chicken and fish on step 3. I did find > it made a difference, but > really > > > struggle with it. I'm trying to compromise by eating just one > veggie meal a day. But > when I > > > mention for instance lentil soup/broth with enough lentils in it > for protein served with > lots of > > > whole wheat pitta the response was that my body may not > experience it as a protein > but as a > > > brown. The thought of eating chicken or fish at every meal > doesn't feel good to me > and I'm > > > slipping around all over the place because of this dilemma. Is > anyone out there still > > > vegetarian? Does anyone else have a similar dilemma? > > > > > > Lucie > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2009 Report Share Posted January 14, 2009 Lucie, you have been making some great observations already. I started off eating meat, and two years ago slowly made the change over to vegetarianism. I had to back step a few times because I started to feel unsteady, but the good news is my body was really clear on telling me those things! I've been fully veggie since August and so far, so good . So you say perhaps trying to do too many things at once... I find whenever someone says " perhaps " it is always " yes " . Maybe you can prioritize what step forward you'd like to do first and just concentrate on that for a bit? Heather There are two ways to live your life. One is as though nothing is a miracle. The other is as though everything is a miracle. --Albert Einstein ________________________________ fleetlucy <fleetlucy Tuesday, January 13, 2009 11:00:35 AM Re: having problems , Heather Butler <hawaiihmb@. ..> wrote: >Hi Heather, thank you for your welcome, I put chicken and fish back into my diet last year and noticed a big positive difference, I find that if I make a dahl and brown rice from lentils I seem to be okay, but if I make lentil soup or dahl and eat it with whole wheat it isn't okay. I gues it will have to be a process of experimentation and reflection. I am trying for one veggie meal a day, because I definitely get unsteady if I cut out chicken and fish completely. Perhaps that is something that will change with time. I began the program properly at the beginning of 2008 (tried to speed through it before that time). Step 3 is definitely the one that I find hard to be consistent with. I'm fine with breakfast through to lunch with proper amount of protein and complex carb but I often don't feel that hungry in the evening when its time to eat again. This is when it can go wrong through just eating cheese and rice cakes or oatcakes. When I eat a proper meal I do feel better so I am trying to get consistent with this. I am also trying to make it a veggie one. Perhaps trying to do too many things at once. Lucie > Hi Lucie, welcome to the group. You mention you are on Step 3, so you must be journaling, right? Are you seeing any clues to how the lentil meal is working for you? > > I am vegetarian, although I made the switch over in August. Prior to that I was still eating some animal meats. I've been doing the program since 2001 and I have found that the steadier I get the more comfortable my body is with vegetable proteins. I still have to journal and keep a close eye on things, though . > > Heather > > There are two ways to live your life. One is as though nothing is a miracle. The other is as though everything is a miracle. > --Albert Einstein > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > fleetlucy <fleetlucy@. ..> > > Tuesday, January 13, 2009 3:22:40 AM > having problems > > > Hi there > > I'm really struggling. I am on step 3. The step 3 group is fantastic for giving support, but I > get a lot of feed back about veggie protein not holding people. I have been vegetarian for 18 > years but started to eat chicken and fish on step 3. I did find it made a difference, but really > struggle with it. I'm trying to compromise by eating just one veggie meal a day. But when I > mention for instance lentil soup/broth with enough lentils in it for protein served with lots of > whole wheat pitta the response was that my body may not experience it as a protein but as a > brown. The thought of eating chicken or fish at every meal doesn't feel good to me and I'm > slipping around all over the place because of this dilemma. Is anyone out there still > vegetarian? Does anyone else have a similar dilemma? > > Lucie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2009 Report Share Posted January 14, 2009 , Heather Butler <hawaiihmb wrote: >Hi Heather You're right it wasn't just a 'perhaps', feeling steadier today and have noticed that I always feel wound up about not being veggie when out of balance, so have decided to focus on getting steady and then will try out the odd veggie meal and see how it effects me. Thanks for the support Lucie > Lucie, you have been making some great observations already. I started off eating meat, and two years ago slowly made the change over to vegetarianism. I had to back step a few times because I started to feel unsteady, but the good news is my body was really clear on telling me those things! I've been fully veggie since August and so far, so good . > > So you say perhaps trying to do too many things at once... I find whenever someone says " perhaps " it is always " yes " . Maybe you can prioritize what step forward you'd like to do first and just concentrate on that for a bit? > Heather > > There are two ways to live your life. One is as though nothing is a miracle. The other is as though everything is a miracle. > --Albert Einstein > > > > > ________________________________ > fleetlucy <fleetlucy > > Tuesday, January 13, 2009 11:00:35 AM > Re: having problems > > > , Heather Butler <hawaiihmb@ ..> wrote: > >Hi Heather, thank you for your welcome, > > I put chicken and fish back into my diet last year and noticed a big positive difference, I > find that if I make a dahl and brown rice from lentils I seem to be okay, but if I make lentil > soup or dahl and eat it with whole wheat it isn't okay. I gues it will have to be a process > of experimentation and reflection. I am trying for one veggie meal a day, because I > definitely get unsteady if I cut out chicken and fish completely. Perhaps that is something > that will change with time. I began the program properly at the beginning of 2008 (tried > to speed through it before that time). Step 3 is definitely the one that I find hard to be > consistent with. I'm fine with breakfast through to lunch with proper amount of protein > and complex carb but I often don't feel that hungry in the evening when its time to eat > again. This is when it can go wrong through just eating cheese and rice cakes or oatcakes. > When I eat a proper meal I do feel better so I am trying to get consistent with this. I am > also trying to make it a veggie one. Perhaps trying to do too many things at once. > > Lucie > > > Hi Lucie, welcome to the group. You mention you are on Step 3, so you must be > journaling, right? Are you seeing any clues to how the lentil meal is working for you? > > > > I am vegetarian, although I made the switch over in August. Prior to that I was still > eating some animal meats. I've been doing the program since 2001 and I have found that > the steadier I get the more comfortable my body is with vegetable proteins. I still have to > journal and keep a close eye on things, though . > > > > Heather > > > > There are two ways to live your life. One is as though nothing is a miracle. The other is > as though everything is a miracle. > > --Albert Einstein > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > fleetlucy <fleetlucy@ ..> > > > > Tuesday, January 13, 2009 3:22:40 AM > > having problems > > > > > > Hi there > > > > I'm really struggling. I am on step 3. The step 3 group is fantastic for giving support, > but I > > get a lot of feed back about veggie protein not holding people. I have been vegetarian > for 18 > > years but started to eat chicken and fish on step 3. I did find it made a difference, but > really > > struggle with it. I'm trying to compromise by eating just one veggie meal a day. But > when I > > mention for instance lentil soup/broth with enough lentils in it for protein served with > lots of > > whole wheat pitta the response was that my body may not experience it as a protein but > as a > > brown. The thought of eating chicken or fish at every meal doesn't feel good to me and > I'm > > slipping around all over the place because of this dilemma. Is anyone out there still > > vegetarian? Does anyone else have a similar dilemma? > > > > Lucie > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2009 Report Share Posted January 14, 2009 Lucie, you are so welcome . I'm glad you are here. Heather There are two ways to live your life. One is as though nothing is a miracle. The other is as though everything is a miracle. --Albert Einstein ________________________________ fleetlucy <fleetlucy Wednesday, January 14, 2009 7:59:14 AM Re: having problems , Heather Butler <hawaiihmb@. ..> wrote: >Hi Heather You're right it wasn't just a 'perhaps', feeling steadier today and have noticed that I always feel wound up about not being veggie when out of balance, so have decided to focus on getting steady and then will try out the odd veggie meal and see how it effects me. Thanks for the support Lucie > Lucie, you have been making some great observations already. I started off eating meat, and two years ago slowly made the change over to vegetarianism. I had to back step a few times because I started to feel unsteady, but the good news is my body was really clear on telling me those things! I've been fully veggie since August and so far, so good . > > So you say perhaps trying to do too many things at once... I find whenever someone says " perhaps " it is always " yes " . Maybe you can prioritize what step forward you'd like to do first and just concentrate on that for a bit? > Heather > > There are two ways to live your life. One is as though nothing is a miracle. The other is as though everything is a miracle. > --Albert Einstein > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > fleetlucy <fleetlucy@. ..> > > Tuesday, January 13, 2009 11:00:35 AM > Re: having problems > > > , Heather Butler <hawaiihmb@ ..> wrote: > >Hi Heather, thank you for your welcome, > > I put chicken and fish back into my diet last year and noticed a big positive difference, I > find that if I make a dahl and brown rice from lentils I seem to be okay, but if I make lentil > soup or dahl and eat it with whole wheat it isn't okay. I gues it will have to be a process > of experimentation and reflection. I am trying for one veggie meal a day, because I > definitely get unsteady if I cut out chicken and fish completely. Perhaps that is something > that will change with time. I began the program properly at the beginning of 2008 (tried > to speed through it before that time). Step 3 is definitely the one that I find hard to be > consistent with. I'm fine with breakfast through to lunch with proper amount of protein > and complex carb but I often don't feel that hungry in the evening when its time to eat > again. This is when it can go wrong through just eating cheese and rice cakes or oatcakes. > When I eat a proper meal I do feel better so I am trying to get consistent with this. I am > also trying to make it a veggie one. Perhaps trying to do too many things at once. > > Lucie > > > Hi Lucie, welcome to the group. You mention you are on Step 3, so you must be > journaling, right? Are you seeing any clues to how the lentil meal is working for you? > > > > I am vegetarian, although I made the switch over in August. Prior to that I was still > eating some animal meats. I've been doing the program since 2001 and I have found that > the steadier I get the more comfortable my body is with vegetable proteins. I still have to > journal and keep a close eye on things, though . > > > > Heather > > > > There are two ways to live your life. One is as though nothing is a miracle. The other is > as though everything is a miracle. > > --Albert Einstein > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > fleetlucy <fleetlucy@ ..> > > > > Tuesday, January 13, 2009 3:22:40 AM > > having problems > > > > > > Hi there > > > > I'm really struggling. I am on step 3. The step 3 group is fantastic for giving support, > but I > > get a lot of feed back about veggie protein not holding people. I have been vegetarian > for 18 > > years but started to eat chicken and fish on step 3. I did find it made a difference, but > really > > struggle with it. I'm trying to compromise by eating just one veggie meal a day. But > when I > > mention for instance lentil soup/broth with enough lentils in it for protein served with > lots of > > whole wheat pitta the response was that my body may not experience it as a protein but > as a > > brown. The thought of eating chicken or fish at every meal doesn't feel good to me and > I'm > > slipping around all over the place because of this dilemma. Is anyone out there still > > vegetarian? Does anyone else have a similar dilemma? > > > > Lucie > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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