Protein

[Guest guest]

The best way to get protein in a raw food diet is

to simply eat raw foods. There is protein in just

about everything in varying amounts. The typical

american consumes WAY too much protein to begin with so I

wouldn't worry that you aren't getting enough. If you

still think you need more protein, try soaked nuts,

seeds, avocados.... You might want to to

Living Nutrition. They frequently have articles that

address these types of questions. They are at

www.livingnutrition.com

[Guest guest]

Hi <br><br>The protein issue is a very serious

one and needs to be taken seriously. I have known

people near to hospitalisation due to not having enough

protein in a raw diet. The best forms of protein are

nuts, seeds (also fat foods), and sprouts. The most

easily assimilable are vegetable proteins including raw

vegetables esp. brocolli.<br><br>Make sure you have enough

protein!<br>Gina<br>Dr Gina

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[Guest guest]

I'd like to respectfully dispute the point you

just made about protein. According to the raw food

doctor that I follow there isn't even a medical term for

a protein deficiency. They don't have a term for it

because it is so rare. What probably happened is that

these people had a calorie deficiency and or they were

fasting. <br><br>He has studied many diets and he says all

diets contain from 10 to 20% protein given you eat the

same amount of calories. It doesn't matter how bad the

diet is either. <br><br>A friend of mine has a

girlfriend who has absolutely thrived for the last 10 years

eating only one kind of food. She just eats grapes. She

eats all kinds of grapes but only grapes. Not much

protein there. <br><br>She has incredible fitness and

energy. She doesn't ever sit down. She sleeps maybe 1 or

2 hours per night (she lie's down for that). I'm

not saying that only eating grapes is for everyone

but it might show we may not need so much protein.

Also if you eat a well balanced raw diet with

sufficient calories you will get all the protein or amino

acids that you need. You can eat some nuts and seeds or

avocados for more protein. But in my opinion they are not

absolutely necessary from the protein standpoint.

<br><br>Fruits and vegetables contain lots of protein in them.

One banana has at least a gram of protein.

<br><br>Here is the amount of grams of protein these foods

contain per 100 calories. From page 110 " Nutrition and

Athletic Performance, " by Dr. Douglass N. Graham. The

USRDA per 100 calories is 1.86g of protein. Even though

I believe that figure is probably double what we

need.<br><br>Avocado = 1.02g<br>Banana = 1.0g<br>Grapefruit =

2.0g<br>Honeydew = 2.0g<br>Peach = 2.5g<br>Pineapple =

1.2g<br>Strawberry = 1.1g<br>Broccoli = 13.2g<br>Celery =

5.0g<br>Romaine = 10.0g<br>Tomato = 4.0g<br>Turkey =

18g<br>Shrimp = 21g<br>Steak, sirloin = 6.7g<br>Potato =

2.85g<br>Rice = 2.1g<br><br>So you can see that per calorie

Broccoli has more protein than steak. So does Romaine

lettuce. Celery and tomatoes are very high in protein as

well. The key is to eat a well rounded diet and to

include a decent amount of vegetables since they are

higher in protein and minerals than most fruit.

<br><br>I think you need to eat the fats for the fat and

not necessarily for the protein. You only need 10 to

20% fat in the diet. Too much fat is no good for you

either. Even if it is raw. Just try to spend a day eating

only raw fats and you'll be as slow as a log. Fats

take the longest to digest and therefore really sap

our energy. <br><br>Roger Haeske<br><br>P.S. Get a

Free 6 Step Technique to Transition to a Raw Diet, go

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[Guest guest]

Hi Kathryn,

 

Thanks for the info on protein and sprouts.

 

>>The largest land animal on earth eats only vegetable matter.  That

large, strong animal is an elephant.  The great and powerful gorilla

also eats only vegetable matter.<<

 

I believe that an elephant probably has very different protein

requirements than humans do.... so I don't feel I could go by what an

elephant eats. Cats would not be able to meet their protein

requirements on an elephant's diet. I think it's important to me to

know what a human's protein requirements are.

 

Thanks so much for the tip on rinsing the sprouts in a peroxide

solution. That's a great idea.

 

Regards,

Sharon

[Guest guest]

I agree.

[Guest guest]

This subject has been aired quite a bit in the last three months in this

forum with some deep insights. Clearly it would be worth you while

review those posts. Try searching on protein for example.

 

Briefly, the biggest contributor of cancer is an overdose of protein: it

builds cells that go out of control and a deficiency of protein is hard

to acquire on any diet.

 

Peter

 

 

mavalkyrie [mavalkyrie]

04 June 2003 05:43

rawfood

[Raw Food] protein

 

 

how does everyone feel/think about protein and the RAW foods

lifestyle? I have seen people mention it lately and worried about not

getting enough. I think what we are told is the proper amount of

protein is way more than we really need. The whole reason most people

eat meat protein is to get the amino acids for the body. If one eats

a wide variety of raw foods you will get the amino acids your body

can use. I just don't believe we need so much protein. What do you

think?

 

Monte

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Body requires about 4 oz. protein daily. 1 cupful of bean sprouts is ample

because the rest will be made made up from your vegetarian diet. If you do

lots of heavy exercise or work you may want to increase it a little bit.

I just toss some mixed bean sprouts into my salads.

rusty

[Guest guest]

Monte, I wonder about protein too. I know we need it, but how much is

another story.

 

I do think that a meat eater or omnivore might have a higher need for

protein because of the effects of that diet on the body, whereas the normal

daily requirements are not appropriate for vegan live/raw foodists.

 

But I'd like to know how much is enough too.

 

Rose

[Guest guest]

Rusti,

 

Your sums are muddled on protein. Your notions that any food processed

is valid consumption perplexes me.

 

That said, I enjoy reading your mixture of sincerity and raw science.

 

Please take me not negatively.

 

Peter

 

 

 

 

Rusty [rustym]

04 June 2003 18:33

rawfood

Re: [Raw Food] protein

 

 

Body requires about 4 oz. protein daily. 1 cupful of bean sprouts is

ample because the rest will be made made up from your vegetarian diet.

If you do lots of heavy exercise or work you may want to increase it a

little bit. I just toss some mixed bean sprouts into my salads. rusty

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Monte wrote:

I think what we are told is the proper amount of

> protein is way more than we really need.

 

This is true. The natural hygienists of the past taught that 75-80% of all

protein consumed was recycled by the body and not eliminated very quickly at

all. The current push for high protein by today's nutritionists of over a

100 grams per day is a killer, literally.

We more than just survive, we prosper, on as little as 30-35 grams per day.

Rob

[Guest guest]

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Jane

[Guest guest]

Hello,

 

can you give me some ideas as to how to add protein to my diet. I find

myself tired all the time.

 

thanks, Paula

[Guest guest]

Hello Paula,

 

Hemp seed is probably one of the most efficient ways to make certain

you are getting the amino acids your body needs to build proteins. Eating

a wide variety of nuts is also helpful, but not nearly as efficient as

using Hempseed. The truth is though, typically a lot of folks get too much

protein in their diet, not too little. In fact, it is actually quite

difficult to be protein defficient provided that you are getting the 8

essential amino acids your body can not produce on its own on a regular

basis.

 

As for increasing your energy levels, you might want to invest in a

juicer. If you think about it, your body spends a lot of time breathing

and digesting. These are two of the ways your body uses up most of its

energy. The problem is that many people eat a lot of cooked foods. This

kills off most of the living enzymes in the food and leaves most of the

work of digestion up to your body. Which in turn requires that you waste a

lot more energy than necessary to completely digest foods. Which means the

more often you do this, the more likely you will feel fatigued. Often

times people start juicing raw foods and all of a sudden they start feeling

as though they have more energy. The main reason is because they are

getting a lot of living enzymes from the juice that helps aid in digestion

which takes a lot of strain off the muscles in the digestive system as a

result.

 

 

Corey...

 

fiveblessings wrote:

 

> Hello,

>

> can you give me some ideas as to how to add protein to my diet. I find

> myself tired all the time.

>

> thanks, Paula

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

fiveblessings wrote:

> Hello,

>

> can you give me some ideas as to how to add protein to my diet. I find

> myself tired all the time.

>

> thanks, Paula

 

beans

nuts

seeds

tofu

tempeh

seitan

any meat analogs (make sure to check ingredients, most are not vegan)

protein powders (rice,soy,hemp,veg)

[Guest guest]

Paula Its pretty easy to get the protein you need from a healthy

vegan diet ... have you had your iron checked lately ?

Teresa

 

 

 

Hello,

 

can you give me some ideas as to how to add protein to my diet. I find

myself tired all the time.

 

thanks, Paula

[Guest guest]

Oftentimes people start juicing raw foods and all of a sudden they start feelingas though they have more energy. The main reason is because they are

getting a lot of living enzymes from the juice that helps aid in digestionwhich takes a lot of strain off the muscles in the digestive system as aresult.

 

[Guest guest]

Sorry about that.

I always thought juicing gave you energy because much of what is left when you juice (esp if you juice fruits) is sugar.

 

You therefore ingest the sugar and deprive your body of the fibre in the fruits and vegetables. You also lose the full feeling that fibre gives you.

 

Yes you get some vitamins but you miss getting the full benefit of the foods.

 

Yvonne

On 9/26/05, Yvonne <yummy1 wrote:

 

 

 

Oftentimes people start juicing raw foods and all of a sudden they start feelingas though they have more energy. The main reason is because they are getting a lot of living enzymes from the juice that helps aid in digestionwhich takes a lot of strain off the muscles in the digestive system as aresult.

 

[Guest guest]

You've gotten some excellent suggestions from other

list members, but I wanted to point out that protein

deficiency is not the only reason you could be feeling

fatigued.

 

Have you checked to see if you are anemic, and do you

know if you are getting enough B12? Also, have you

checked to see if you are consuming enough CALORIES?

Believe it or not, the number 1 nutritional deficiency

for vegans is not protein, iron, or B vitamins, it's

calories.

 

cheers!

-m

 

--- fiveblessings wrote:

 

> Hello,

>

> can you give me some ideas as to how to add protein

> to my diet. I find

> myself tired all the time.

>

> thanks, Paula

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thank you for that thought Teresa. My doctors office just called me and

said to come in for a complete blood count. maybe that will tell me if

my iron is low.

 

thanks

 

Paula

 

On Mon, 26 Sep 2005 09:45:45 -0400 outonalimb writes:

> Paula Its pretty easy to get the protein you need from a healthy

> vegan diet ... have you had your iron checked lately ?

> Teresa

>

[Guest guest]

thanks, I never thought about the calorie aspect. I have to say, I am

really enjoying doing the research on this. I am going to have my iron

checked, so perhaps that will give me a place to start.

 

thanks for the many replies!! very helpful

 

Paula

 

On Mon, 26 Sep 2005 10:39:51 -0700 (PDT) Meghan Gray

<persephone44691 writes:

>

> Have you checked to see if you are anemic, and do you

> know if you are getting enough B12? Also, have you

> checked to see if you are consuming enough CALORIES?

> Believe it or not, the number 1 nutritional deficiency

> for vegans is not protein, iron, or B vitamins, it's

> calories.

[Guest guest]

Sorry about that.

 

That's okay, but don't let it happen again. <chuckle>

 

 

I always thought juicing gave you energy because much of what is left

when you juice (esp if you juice fruits) is sugar.

 

It is true that extracted sugars will give you that initial kick on

top of the energy you save through less digestion by having the extra

live enzymes. Also, the enzymes will help your body to eliminate

rotting fermented undigested food in your system that may have been

there for a very long time. Once the fermentation is gone, that is one

less depressant attacking the system causing much of the chronic fatigue

that people feel on a daily basis. If I recall, it was Dr. John Harvey

Kellogg, who did the initial experiments on the body's digestive cycle

to determine that you really shouldn't eat anything for 5 to 6 hours

between meals. Apparently, what occurs is that when you eat between

meals, the meal you ate first stops being digested and gets moved to the

top of the stack, where it starts to rot. So, people who eat between

meals chronically tend to have putrified undigested food in their system

for very long periods of time. So, knowing this, what do doctors do?

They tell you it is better to eat 5 or 6 smaller meals a day, then they

wonder why folks have serious problems with Acid Reflux, IBs, Leaky Gut

syndrome, and abdominal pains that doctors can not figure out why you

have them (which are really caused by abusing the muscles in the

digestive system through chronic overwork).

 

 

You therefore ingest the sugar and deprive your body of the fibre in

the fruits and vegetables. You also lose the full feeling that fibre

gives you. Yes you get some vitamins but you miss getting the full

benefit of the foods.

 

Well, seeing that most people, even many vegetarians, eat a

prodominantly cooked diet, the juicing option will help counterr a lot

of the digestion problems by replacing the live enzymes that get killed

off once the food is cooked. But, I agree, the best way to eat fruits

and vegetables is raw and to reduce the percentage of cooked food in our

diet so that we can get the maximum benefit from the food in its raw

state. However, if we were all that disciplined, the medical profession

would be pulling its hair out and losing billions of dollars.

..

 

Corey...

[Guest guest]

You've gotten some excellent suggestions from other

list members, but I wanted to point out that protein

deficiency is not the only reason you could be feeling

fatigued.

 

Have you checked to see if you are anemic, and do you

know if you are getting enough B12?

 

 

Anemia is one of those interesting problems. Because you could have

enough B-12, but because your body does not create Intrensic Factor

proteins, which happens with some people, you end up not being able to

use the B-12 you have in your body because there is no transport protein

available to get it into your blood stream.

 

 

Corey...

[Guest guest]

Certainly, I am no scientist, but it just occurs to me that perhaps the energy rush one feels from juice is actually the reaction to the concentrated sugar you are getting.

 

Forgive my skepticism, but I think this is a science developed to sell juicing machines.

 

But, that's why they put pencils on erasers...

 

 

 

-

Yvonne

Monday, September 26, 2005 1:10 PM

Re: protein

 

 

Oftentimes people start juicing raw foods and all of a sudden they start feelingas though they have more energy. The main reason is because they are getting a lot of living enzymes from the juice that helps aid in digestionwhich takes a lot of strain off the muscles in the digestive system as aresult.

 

[Guest guest]

Certainly, I am no scientist, but it just

occurs to me that perhaps the energy rush one feels from juice is actually

the reaction to the concentrated sugar you are getting.

Yes, if you are talking only about the immediate

energy rush. Even processed sugars will give you an immediate energy

rush. But, that is far from being the whole story of what is going

on when you introduce living enzymes into your body.

 

Forgive my skepticism, but I

think this is a science developed to sell juicing machines.

 

That must be it!

 

Corey...

 

 

[Guest guest]

I agree with Eric. I'm not saying dont drink juice of course but you'd get more out of eating an orange or carrot..or whatever.

Message: 10 Mon, 26 Sep 2005 16:29:28 -0400"Eric StevenS" Re: proteinCertainly, I am no scientist, but it just occurs to me that perhaps the energy rush one feels from juice is actually the reaction to the concentrated sugar you are getting.Forgive my skepticism, but I think this is a science developed to sell juicing machines.But, that's why they put pencils on erasers...-----