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Mary Ann, Hope this helps some. Is being a vegan healthy?

 

 

Eating a vegan diet is not simply healthy. It is healthier! Vegans tend to eat

less fat, and they have lower cholesterol levels And importantly, a plant-based

diet provides enough protein, meeting the amount recommended by the World Health

Organization. All nutritional needs are met (see question about vitamin B-12),

and many of the problems associated with eating meat and dairy are avoided. In

fact, the consumption of meat and dairy has been linked to heart disease and

certain types of cancer. Further, excess protein can lead to health problems,

including a depletion of calcium.

Am I getting enough protein?

 

 

A vegan diet supplies an adequate amount of protein, meeting the recommendations

of the World Health Organization. It was once thought that you had to combine

proteins at each meal, but this is no longer considered to be true. Now, if you

eat a variety of plant foods, including grains, legumes, nuts and seeds, your

protein needs will be met. And soy protein is considered the equivalent of

animal protein. Further, excess protein has been associated with health

problems. There have been links to heart disease, breast cancer in women, and

kidney disease as well as kidney stones. Excess protein can also have the effect

of excreting calcium from the kidneys, and may be a factor in osteoporosis.

 

 

<a href= " http://www.vegan.org/ " >Vegan Action

 

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Mary Ann <maryann23_1977 wrote:

Mary Ann

 

 

 

Y'all are more knowledgable than I so please

advise...

 

On a weight loss list I am on, I mentioned in

passing that I am a vegan. Some women wrote to me

saying " it's difficult for vegans to eat enough

protein " " vegans have deficiencies " blah blah

blah... PLEASE point me to some links or give me

some info to debunk these myths!! I KNOW I am not

deficient in protein!

 

Also, I mentioned to a friend that I had read

somewhere that meat is tender because it is

rotting, otherwise it would be stiff with rigor

mortis, like any other dead thing. I read that

when the meat begins to decompose it gets tender.

That the meat you buy at the store is months from

slaughter, it has spent months between slaughter

and consumption. Is this true?? My friend asked

me then why doesn't it smell if it's rotting, and

why don't we get violently ill from eating it??

Do you all know anything about this??

 

Thank you so much everyone :)

Mary Ann

 

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Try doing a diet analysis. You can do it using this link

http://dawp.anet.com/ or going to your doctor/nutritionist. Whenever someone

tells me something about me not getting enough protei/vitamins, I tell them

about my diet analysis. I get 100-300% of all my mineral & vitamin needs,

and a scary 250% of my protein needs. And that was before I started eating

veggie burgers (uh-oh). The average American diet contains 600-700% of a

person's protein requirements. So as you see, protein is not a problem.

There's a really good women's health page that talks a lot about

veegtarianism, it's http://www.evesgarden.net/ They mention animal vs.

vegetable proteins in a few articles, you might want to check that out.

-Belle

 

 

 

Mary Ann <maryann23_1977 wrote:

 

Y'all are more knowledgable than I so please

advise...

 

On a weight loss list I am on, I mentioned in

passing that I am a vegan. Some women wrote to me

saying " it's difficult for vegans to eat enough

protein " " vegans have deficiencies " blah blah

blah... PLEASE point me to some links or give me

some info to debunk these myths!! I KNOW I am not

deficient in protein!

 

Also, I mentioned to a friend that I had read

somewhere that meat is tender because it is

rotting, otherwise it would be stiff with rigor

mortis, like any other dead thing. I read that

when the meat begins to decompose it gets tender.

That the meat you buy at the store is months from

slaughter, it has spent months between slaughter

and consumption. Is this true?? My friend asked

me then why doesn't it smell if it's rotting, and

why don't we get violently ill from eating it??

Do you all know anything about this??

 

Thank you so much everyone :)

Mary Ann

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Hi there,

 

I was vegetarian but have struggled with step 3 and so now eat chicken or fish

at each meal (not breakfast), I definitely feel steady on it, when I tried to do

the programme as a vegetarian I came undone, but I have to say my timings

weren't good at the time, and my step 3 was still inconsistent.

 

It is feeling much better now, and I am struggling with eating fish and chicken

each day, not physically, my body seems to like it, but in my head, I just find

it difficult to justify the meat industry, I eat free range organic chicken, but

am struggling to do this financially so eat a lot of fish, tinned tuna works

well but not sure if it is good to eat too much tinned fish.

 

Thing is I would like to be vegetarian again, because I just don't want to

support the meat and fish industry, but I don't want to lose the steadiness I

have been feeling, because it is relatively new.

 

I wondered what other people thought?

 

Lucy

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Lucy

 

My sentiments too!

 

I was veggie for a number of years, although I see now that at least some of

that was protein avoidance, & restriction, not to mention rebellion when I first

started.

 

My body likes dense proteins, particuarly chicken, turkey, & salmon.

 

What I am doing right now is using PP at breakfast [half soya, half whey based],

meat usually for lunch, veggie for dinner.

 

I sometimes have tempeh at lunch instead of meat.

 

Dinner is typically lentil curry.

 

I am a member of an animal sanctuary & highly dismayed by factory farming & the

reality of how cheap food is produced. At the same time I greatly treasure my

health & sanity.

 

I'm slowly easing towards being veggie again. I know it can be done as Heather

& others prove. Yet I won't take any risks of regression because I have a lot

to lose from the life I have now.

 

Mel , " fleetlucy " <fleetlucy

wrote:

>

> Hi there,

>

> I was vegetarian but have struggled with step 3 and so now eat chicken or fish

at each meal (not breakfast), I definitely feel steady on it, when I tried to do

the programme as a vegetarian I came undone, but I have to say my timings

weren't good at the time, and my step 3 was still inconsistent.

>

> It is feeling much better now, and I am struggling with eating fish and

chicken each day, not physically, my body seems to like it, but in my head, I

just find it difficult to justify the meat industry, I eat free range organic

chicken, but am struggling to do this financially so eat a lot of fish, tinned

tuna works well but not sure if it is good to eat too much tinned fish.

>

> Thing is I would like to be vegetarian again, because I just don't want to

support the meat and fish industry, but I don't want to lose the steadiness I

have been feeling, because it is relatively new.

>

> I wondered what other people thought?

>

> Lucy

>

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Hi Lucy,

 

I hear you about not wanting to support the industry.

 

I have become almost vegetarian on step 7. Doing it from a steady

place worked for me. Even so, I had to do it very slowly and gradually

to stay steady.

 

I agree with mel-maybe change a meal here and there to start rather

than change all.

 

Congratulations on getting steady on step 3 too.

 

JoEllen

 

 

 

 

 

, " fleetlucy " <fleetlucy wrote:

>

> Hi there,

>

> I was vegetarian but have struggled with step 3 and so now eat chicken or fish

at each meal (not breakfast), I definitely feel steady on it, when I tried to do

the programme as a vegetarian I came undone, but I have to say my timings

weren't good at the time, and my step 3 was still inconsistent.

>

> It is feeling much better now, and I am struggling with eating fish and

chicken each day, not physically, my body seems to like it, but in my head, I

just find it difficult to justify the meat industry, I eat free range organic

chicken, but am struggling to do this financially so eat a lot of fish, tinned

tuna works well but not sure if it is good to eat too much tinned fish.

>

> Thing is I would like to be vegetarian again, because I just don't want to

support the meat and fish industry, but I don't want to lose the steadiness I

have been feeling, because it is relatively new.

>

> I wondered what other people thought?

>

> Lucy

>

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, " jocameron350 " <joellencameron

wrote:

>Hi Janine, Mel and Jo

 

It is good to get this advice, because I don't want to upset my balance, I think

I will make it my project to start creating a recipe book of vegetarian recipes

with protein contents worked out, make it a fun creative thing, then gradually

try out one a week or something like that, see how it effects me. This way I'll

feel like I'm doing something but I hopefully won't lose my new found

balance...it goes so easily! But comes back quickly.

 

Lucy

 

 

> Hi Lucy,

>

> I hear you about not wanting to support the industry.

>

> I have become almost vegetarian on step 7. Doing it from a steady

> place worked for me. Even so, I had to do it very slowly and gradually

> to stay steady.

>

> I agree with mel-maybe change a meal here and there to start rather

> than change all.

>

> Congratulations on getting steady on step 3 too.

>

> JoEllen

>

>

>

>

>

> , " fleetlucy " <fleetlucy@> wrote:

> >

> > Hi there,

> >

> > I was vegetarian but have struggled with step 3 and so now eat chicken or

fish at each meal (not breakfast), I definitely feel steady on it, when I tried

to do the programme as a vegetarian I came undone, but I have to say my timings

weren't good at the time, and my step 3 was still inconsistent.

> >

> > It is feeling much better now, and I am struggling with eating fish and

chicken each day, not physically, my body seems to like it, but in my head, I

just find it difficult to justify the meat industry, I eat free range organic

chicken, but am struggling to do this financially so eat a lot of fish, tinned

tuna works well but not sure if it is good to eat too much tinned fish.

> >

> > Thing is I would like to be vegetarian again, because I just don't want to

support the meat and fish industry, but I don't want to lose the steadiness I

have been feeling, because it is relatively new.

> >

> > I wondered what other people thought?

> >

> > Lucy

> >

>

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I like this idea Lucy.

 

It sounds like fun too.

 

Mel , " fleetlucy " <fleetlucy

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I think I will make it my project to start creating a recipe book of

vegetarian recipes with protein contents worked out, make it a fun creative

thing,

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Hi Lucy, I feel your frustration! It helps me to make a list of all

the proteins that I feel good about eating and to make sure that I get

protein from a variety of those sources every day.

 

You are still a vegetarian at heart, because you care and you are

aware. Just do the best you can, and when you do eat meat, then maybe

consider honoring it in some way, weather it's a moment of gratitude

before eating, or making sure you don't waste it, or whatever works

for you.

 

I tried being vegan pre-RR and it was a disaster. It is much easier

now, as others have said.

 

Maggie

 

On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 4:49 PM, fleetlucy <fleetlucy wrote:

>

>

> Hi there,

>

> I was vegetarian but have struggled with step 3 and so now eat chicken or

> fish at each meal (not breakfast), I definitely feel steady on it, when I

> tried to do the programme as a vegetarian I came undone, but I have to say

> my timings weren't good at the time, and my step 3 was still inconsistent.

>

> It is feeling much better now, and I am struggling with eating fish and

> chicken each day, not physically, my body seems to like it, but in my head,

> I just find it difficult to justify the meat industry, I eat free range

> organic chicken, but am struggling to do this financially so eat a lot of

> fish, tinned tuna works well but not sure if it is good to eat too much

> tinned fish.

>

> Thing is I would like to be vegetarian again, because I just don't want to

> support the meat and fish industry, but I don't want to lose the steadiness

> I have been feeling, because it is relatively new.

>

> I wondered what other people thought?

>

> Lucy

>

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, Maggie Vining <Maggie.Vining

wrote:

>Hi Maggie,

 

Yes, I think that is a good idea, the good change that has happened to me is

that I am being persistent about this in a balanced way, rather than trying to

be vegetarian, I am aiming at taking my time and integrating the RR diet and the

vegetarian diet, gently so I can see what works.

 

It was interesting to read that you get your protein from a variety of sources

each day, I shall do that too.

 

Lucy

> Hi Lucy, I feel your frustration! It helps me to make a list of all

> the proteins that I feel good about eating and to make sure that I get

> protein from a variety of those sources every day.

>

> You are still a vegetarian at heart, because you care and you are

> aware. Just do the best you can, and when you do eat meat, then maybe

> consider honoring it in some way, weather it's a moment of gratitude

> before eating, or making sure you don't waste it, or whatever works

> for you.

>

> I tried being vegan pre-RR and it was a disaster. It is much easier

> now, as others have said.

>

> Maggie

>

> On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 4:49 PM, fleetlucy <fleetlucy wrote:

> >

> >

> > Hi there,

> >

> > I was vegetarian but have struggled with step 3 and so now eat chicken or

> > fish at each meal (not breakfast), I definitely feel steady on it, when I

> > tried to do the programme as a vegetarian I came undone, but I have to say

> > my timings weren't good at the time, and my step 3 was still inconsistent.

> >

> > It is feeling much better now, and I am struggling with eating fish and

> > chicken each day, not physically, my body seems to like it, but in my head,

> > I just find it difficult to justify the meat industry, I eat free range

> > organic chicken, but am struggling to do this financially so eat a lot of

> > fish, tinned tuna works well but not sure if it is good to eat too much

> > tinned fish.

> >

> > Thing is I would like to be vegetarian again, because I just don't want to

> > support the meat and fish industry, but I don't want to lose the steadiness

> > I have been feeling, because it is relatively new.

> >

> > I wondered what other people thought?

> >

> > Lucy

> >

>

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Mel, you sound so sane and rational :). I'm glad you are here with us! Let us

know however we can support you.

Heather

 

There are two ways to live your life. One is as though nothing is a miracle.

The other is as though everything is a miracle.

--Albert Einstein

 

 

 

 

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Sunday, May 24, 2009 5:14:34 PM

Re: Help please!

 

 

 

 

 

Lucy

 

My sentiments too!

 

I was veggie for a number of years, although I see now that at least some of

that was protein avoidance, & restriction, not to mention rebellion when I first

started.

 

My body likes dense proteins, particuarly chicken, turkey, & salmon.

 

What I am doing right now is using PP at breakfast [half soya, half whey based],

meat usually for lunch, veggie for dinner.

 

I sometimes have tempeh at lunch instead of meat.

 

Dinner is typically lentil curry.

 

I am a member of an animal sanctuary & highly dismayed by factory farming & the

reality of how cheap food is produced. At the same time I greatly treasure my

health & sanity.

 

I'm slowly easing towards being veggie again. I know it can be done as Heather

& others prove. Yet I won't take any risks of regression because I have a lot

to lose from the life I have now.

 

Mel , " fleetlucy " <fleetlucy@.

...> wrote:

>

> Hi there,

>

> I was vegetarian but have struggled with step 3 and so now eat chicken or fish

at each meal (not breakfast), I definitely feel steady on it, when I tried to do

the programme as a vegetarian I came undone, but I have to say my timings

weren't good at the time, and my step 3 was still inconsistent.

>

> It is feeling much better now, and I am struggling with eating fish and

chicken each day, not physically, my body seems to like it, but in my head, I

just find it difficult to justify the meat industry, I eat free range organic

chicken, but am struggling to do this financially so eat a lot of fish, tinned

tuna works well but not sure if it is good to eat too much tinned fish.

>

> Thing is I would like to be vegetarian again, because I just don't want to

support the meat and fish industry, but I don't want to lose the steadiness I

have been feeling, because it is relatively new.

>

> I wondered what other people thought?

>

> Lucy

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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