Guest guest Posted May 27, 2009 Report Share Posted May 27, 2009 Hi everyone, Two days of introducing one vegetarian meal each day and I am completely spaced out, can't think straight, don't feel connected to my body and feel weepy and confused. It's so disappointing, I guess my body is saying I can't do vegetarian at the moment, but I keep thinking it is just in my mind. It's ironic all the years I was a vegetarian I was surrounded by people who said I should eat meat. Now my regular friends say the opposite. When they talk about how awful it is that people eat so much eat, and they do this quite regularly, should only have it once a week, the suffering etc, I find it really hard because I feel the same way, can't bare the suffering of any creature. I'm sorry I know I'm ranting, I'm just so frustrated and confused and can't see straight. I can't believe that I need to eat chicken and fish for lunch and dinner everyday, I keep thinking it must be in my mind, when I try to explain to two friends I spend a lot of time with and have known a long time, they just look at me as if I'm a naughty child who is telling a lie and I end up thinking this too. Please can someone give me a perspective. Thank you Lucy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2009 Report Share Posted May 27, 2009 Hi Lucy I really understand your frustration. Your body is sending you loud and clear messages that vegetarian food is really not working for you at the moment - and that's definitely not in your mind. This doesn't mean you won't ever be able to eat veggie food, though, just that your body maybe has more healing to do and the denser protein in meat and fish is probably what she needs right now. So what we need to think about is how you can reconcile yourself to eating what your body says she needs. Once when I was getting upset about having to cancel our organic vegbox in favour of out of season supermarket veg, my partner said to me that I had to save myself first, before I could think about saving the world. So, finances permitting, perhaps you could compromise by buying meat that has been reared as humanely as possible? Perhaps you could combine protein sources, so that you eat some meals that have part meat/fish, part vegetarian protein? Perhaps start a lot slower - have one vegetarian meal a week to begin with? I know Heather will be able to give you great advice about introducing vegetarian food slowly, as that is what she has done herself. I'm a lifelong vegetarian, so I don't have any experience of making the change. About your friends' views - I don't think you need to justify yourself to them. I can appreciate that you would want them to understand and support you, but ultimately you need to do what is right for you at this time, regardless of what other people say. You have that right. It's the old oxygen mask analogy again - if you take care of yourself first, you are in a much better place to then take care of others. I don't know if this helps or not. But keep talking, Lucy, I'm sure between us all we can help you find a way to be comfortable about what you are eating. Jenny _____ On Behalf Of fleetlucy 27 May 2009 13:23 problems again! Hi everyone, Two days of introducing one vegetarian meal each day and I am completely spaced out, can't think straight, don't feel connected to my body and feel weepy and confused. It's so disappointing, I guess my body is saying I can't do vegetarian at the moment, but I keep thinking it is just in my mind. It's ironic all the years I was a vegetarian I was surrounded by people who said I should eat meat. Now my regular friends say the opposite. When they talk about how awful it is that people eat so much eat, and they do this quite regularly, should only have it once a week, the suffering etc, I find it really hard because I feel the same way, can't bare the suffering of any creature. I'm sorry I know I'm ranting, I'm just so frustrated and confused and can't see straight. I can't believe that I need to eat chicken and fish for lunch and dinner everyday, I keep thinking it must be in my mind, when I try to explain to two friends I spend a lot of time with and have known a long time, they just look at me as if I'm a naughty child who is telling a lie and I end up thinking this too. Please can someone give me a perspective. Thank you Lucy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2009 Report Share Posted May 27, 2009 Hi Lucy, Your body is healing. Your system will get stronger the longer you follow this program. I think it's wise to hang on to that. The animals are healing you. At some point you could try mixing in some vegetarian protein within the same meal as the fish and chicken-that's one of the ways I started-a little less meat, with the same total protein. I agree with what has been said too about being grateful and appreciative to the animals and plants for feeding us. I think eating with reverence and love goes a long way. JoEllen , " fleetlucy " <fleetlucy wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > Two days of introducing one vegetarian meal each day and I am completely spaced out, can't think straight, don't feel connected to my body and feel weepy and confused. It's so disappointing, I guess my body is saying I can't do vegetarian at the moment, but I keep thinking it is just in my mind. > > It's ironic all the years I was a vegetarian I was surrounded by people who said I should eat meat. Now my regular friends say the opposite. When they talk about how awful it is that people eat so much eat, and they do this quite regularly, should only have it once a week, the suffering etc, I find it really hard because I feel the same way, can't bare the suffering of any creature. > > I'm sorry I know I'm ranting, I'm just so frustrated and confused and can't see straight. > I can't believe that I need to eat chicken and fish for lunch and dinner everyday, I keep thinking it must be in my mind, when I try to explain to two friends I spend a lot of time with and have known a long time, they just look at me as if I'm a naughty child who is telling a lie and I end up thinking this too. > > Please can someone give me a perspective. > > Thank you > > Lucy > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2009 Report Share Posted May 27, 2009 Lucy, I totally understand. Please try and find a quiet place within you and be still and send yourself love. Please nourish your body and just take it one meal at a time. Don't worry about any thing else but just getting steady, strong and clear. Maybe you can make a choice to not speak about this issue to friends who just don't understand right now? Take in the energy from our planet that you need to be well and strong, know that the energy is helping you to be truly yourself. That energy needs to be in the form of dense protein for you right now. " I guess my body is sayng I can't do vegetarian at the moment, but I keep thinking it is just in my mind. " I truly know what you mean, but your brain needs the higher level of protein so that your body, mind and spirit can flourish. Please keep posting as much as you want to about how you are feeling and how it is going. I'll have some salmon at lunch today (wild caught canned) and keep you in my thoughts. Believe me I know what you are going through--been there! : ) Janine On May 27, 2009, at 5:23 AM, fleetlucy wrote: > > > Hi everyone, > > Two days of introducing one vegetarian meal each day and I am > completely spaced out, can't think straight, don't feel connected to > my body and feel weepy and confused. It's so disappointing, I guess > my body is saying I can't do vegetarian at the moment, but I keep > thinking it is just in my mind. > > It's ironic all the years I was a vegetarian I was surrounded by > people who said I should eat meat. Now my regular friends say the > opposite. When they talk about how awful it is that people eat so > much eat, and they do this quite regularly, should only have it once > a week, the suffering etc, I find it really hard because I feel the > same way, can't bare the suffering of any creature. > > I'm sorry I know I'm ranting, I'm just so frustrated and confused > and can't see straight. > I can't believe that I need to eat chicken and fish for lunch and > dinner everyday, I keep thinking it must be in my mind, when I try > to explain to two friends I spend a lot of time with and have known > a long time, they just look at me as if I'm a naughty child who is > telling a lie and I end up thinking this too. > > Please can someone give me a perspective. > > Thank you > > Lucy > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2009 Report Share Posted May 27, 2009 It seems like you could really benefit from journaling. Are you on that step yet? Your comments remind me of how I feel when I get too much of my protein from soy, or when I did not eat enough before working out. You might find that your feelings come from something unrelated to meat! Or maybe not, but until you get it sorted out please don't be down on yourself! Take some time each day to make a little list of 5 or so things that you did that you feel good about. : ) Maggie On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 8:23 AM, fleetlucy <fleetlucy wrote: > > > Hi everyone, > > Two days of introducing one vegetarian meal each day and I am completely > spaced out, can't think straight, don't feel connected to my body and feel > weepy and confused. It's so disappointing, I guess my body is saying I can't > do vegetarian at the moment, but I keep thinking it is just in my mind. > > It's ironic all the years I was a vegetarian I was surrounded by people who > said I should eat meat. Now my regular friends say the opposite. When they > talk about how awful it is that people eat so much eat, and they do this > quite regularly, should only have it once a week, the suffering etc, I find > it really hard because I feel the same way, can't bare the suffering of any > creature. > > I'm sorry I know I'm ranting, I'm just so frustrated and confused and can't > see straight. > I can't believe that I need to eat chicken and fish for lunch and dinner > everyday, I keep thinking it must be in my mind, when I try to explain to > two friends I spend a lot of time with and have known a long time, they just > look at me as if I'm a naughty child who is telling a lie and I end up > thinking this too. > > Please can someone give me a perspective. > > Thank you > > Lucy > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2009 Report Share Posted May 27, 2009 , Maggie Vining <Maggie.Vining wrote: >Hi Maggie, Yes my journaling is strong, I'm on step 3, when it is consistent it is good, but I fall off, and trying not to eat meat seems to be one of the ways I fall off. Everything else seems to have been good, I seem to be able to get away with one meal a week that is not chicken or fish, more than that and it all starts to fall apart. What happens is that just as I start to feel steady and balanced and energised and strong I think to myself, well now I shall do this but with some vegetarian food, and then I get spacy, weepy, ungrounded and confused. Thank you for your advice, it was soy that I was eating a lot of. Lucy > It seems like you could really benefit from journaling. Are you on > that step yet? Your comments remind me of how I feel when I get too > much of my protein from soy, or when I did not eat enough before > working out. You might find that your feelings come from something > unrelated to meat! Or maybe not, but until you get it sorted out > please don't be down on yourself! Take some time each day to make a > little list of 5 or so things that you did that you feel good about. : > ) > > Maggie > > On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 8:23 AM, fleetlucy <fleetlucy wrote: > > > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > Two days of introducing one vegetarian meal each day and I am completely > > spaced out, can't think straight, don't feel connected to my body and feel > > weepy and confused. It's so disappointing, I guess my body is saying I can't > > do vegetarian at the moment, but I keep thinking it is just in my mind. > > > > It's ironic all the years I was a vegetarian I was surrounded by people who > > said I should eat meat. Now my regular friends say the opposite. When they > > talk about how awful it is that people eat so much eat, and they do this > > quite regularly, should only have it once a week, the suffering etc, I find > > it really hard because I feel the same way, can't bare the suffering of any > > creature. > > > > I'm sorry I know I'm ranting, I'm just so frustrated and confused and can't > > see straight. > > I can't believe that I need to eat chicken and fish for lunch and dinner > > everyday, I keep thinking it must be in my mind, when I try to explain to > > two friends I spend a lot of time with and have known a long time, they just > > look at me as if I'm a naughty child who is telling a lie and I end up > > thinking this too. > > > > Please can someone give me a perspective. > > > > Thank you > > > > Lucy > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2009 Report Share Posted May 27, 2009 , " jocameron350 " <joellencameron wrote: >Hi Jo Ellen, Yes eating with respect for the animal is good, I will do that. Thank you for responding Lucy > Hi Lucy, > > Your body is healing. Your system will get stronger the longer > you follow this program. I think it's wise to hang on to that. > The animals are healing you. At some point you could try mixing > in some vegetarian protein within the same meal as the fish > and chicken-that's one of the ways I started-a little less meat, > with the same total protein. > > I agree with what has been said too about being grateful and > appreciative to the animals and plants for feeding us. I think > eating with reverence and love goes a long way. > > JoEllen > > > > > > , " fleetlucy " <fleetlucy@> wrote: > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > Two days of introducing one vegetarian meal each day and I am completely spaced out, can't think straight, don't feel connected to my body and feel weepy and confused. It's so disappointing, I guess my body is saying I can't do vegetarian at the moment, but I keep thinking it is just in my mind. > > > > It's ironic all the years I was a vegetarian I was surrounded by people who said I should eat meat. Now my regular friends say the opposite. When they talk about how awful it is that people eat so much eat, and they do this quite regularly, should only have it once a week, the suffering etc, I find it really hard because I feel the same way, can't bare the suffering of any creature. > > > > I'm sorry I know I'm ranting, I'm just so frustrated and confused and can't see straight. > > I can't believe that I need to eat chicken and fish for lunch and dinner everyday, I keep thinking it must be in my mind, when I try to explain to two friends I spend a lot of time with and have known a long time, they just look at me as if I'm a naughty child who is telling a lie and I end up thinking this too. > > > > Please can someone give me a perspective. > > > > Thank you > > > > Lucy > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2009 Report Share Posted May 27, 2009 , Janine Acevedo <janine wrote: >Hi Janine, I think I will have to do this, the other thing that has happened is that I feel starving hungry, like I haven't eaten for a week, I haven't felt like that for ages. I have some smoked mackeral for tonight. Hope your salmon was good for you. Thanks for responding Lucy > Lucy, > > I totally understand. Please try and find a quiet place within you and > be still and send yourself love. Please nourish your body and just > take it one meal at a time. Don't worry about any thing else but just > getting steady, strong and clear. Maybe you can make a choice to not > speak about this issue to friends who just don't understand right now? > > Take in the energy from our planet that you need to be well and > strong, know that the energy is helping you to be truly yourself. That > energy needs to be in the form of dense protein for you right now. > > " I guess my body is sayng I can't do vegetarian at the moment, but I > keep thinking it is just in my mind. " I truly know what you mean, but > your brain needs the higher level of protein so that your body, mind > and spirit can flourish. > > Please keep posting as much as you want to about how you are feeling > and how it is going. I'll have some salmon at lunch today (wild caught > canned) and keep you in my thoughts. > > Believe me I know what you are going through--been there! : ) > > Janine > > > On May 27, 2009, at 5:23 AM, fleetlucy wrote: > > > > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > Two days of introducing one vegetarian meal each day and I am > > completely spaced out, can't think straight, don't feel connected to > > my body and feel weepy and confused. It's so disappointing, I guess > > my body is saying I can't do vegetarian at the moment, but I keep > > thinking it is just in my mind. > > > > It's ironic all the years I was a vegetarian I was surrounded by > > people who said I should eat meat. Now my regular friends say the > > opposite. When they talk about how awful it is that people eat so > > much eat, and they do this quite regularly, should only have it once > > a week, the suffering etc, I find it really hard because I feel the > > same way, can't bare the suffering of any creature. > > > > I'm sorry I know I'm ranting, I'm just so frustrated and confused > > and can't see straight. > > I can't believe that I need to eat chicken and fish for lunch and > > dinner everyday, I keep thinking it must be in my mind, when I try > > to explain to two friends I spend a lot of time with and have known > > a long time, they just look at me as if I'm a naughty child who is > > telling a lie and I end up thinking this too. > > > > Please can someone give me a perspective. > > > > Thank you > > > > Lucy > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2009 Report Share Posted May 27, 2009 Hi Lucy and everyone, Regarding that starving, hungry, haven't-eaten-for-a-week feeling: I get that sometimes, too. It often but not always seems related to hormonal fluctuations. My blood sugar levels feel less stable before my period, for example, and I often get that intensely hungry feeling at that time. On May 27, 2009, at 9:35 AM, fleetlucy wrote: > > > , Janine Acevedo > <janine wrote: > >Hi Janine, > > I think I will have to do this, the other thing that has happened is > that I feel starving hungry, like I haven't eaten for a week, I > haven't felt like that for ages. I have some smoked mackeral for > tonight. Hope your salmon was good for you. > > Thanks for responding > > Lucy > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2009 Report Share Posted May 27, 2009 You sound a bit off... don't worry, some of the frustration and ranting is itself biochemical! You'll feel a bit better when you get steadier again. I'm going to make a couple of suggestions. Disclaimer - I've never been truly vegetarian, so the process was less frustrating to me than to you... but this is what I'd think. First - hold off a while now before making any changes again. Let your body really settle back in. I didn't experiment with reducing meat again until I was on Step Seven. Without waiting that long... get Step Three really in place at the very least. And I'd tend to want Five in place - I find all those browns make a big difference in steadiness, especially in vegetarian meals. At least, I'd really suggest, even now, that any meatless meal you try you add browns, even if you need whites along side. Do what Jo suggested - mix meat and other proteins in the same meal. I often combine chicken and tofu, say. And I can't really face enough beans alone to give me all the protein that I need - but last night I had a reasonable amount of lentils with just enough pork to give me enough protein. *Many* traditional dishes work that way - think cassoulet, pea soup with ham, etc. Try other animal sources, rather than going straight to vegan protein. I find cheese and eggs do very well for me. (In fact, I'd actually increased my meat before RR, when I was having trouble with dairy - I wasn't eating many eggs, then, and vegan just didn't work for my body - a few meals without animal protein, and I'd start being hungry all the time.) Try cheese and (brown) noodle dishes, cheese souffle, etc. Here in New York, at least, the average dairy cow still lives on a family farm, and grazes in pasture - that might feel easier for you. I also do buy my meat from farmers - I do prefer the non-industrial meat. Knowing that you are doing the best you reasonably can helps. Anne On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 7:23 AM, fleetlucy <fleetlucy wrote: > Hi everyone, > > Two days of introducing one vegetarian meal each day and I am completely spaced out, can't think straight, don't feel connected to my body and feel weepy and confused. It's so disappointing, I guess my body is saying I can't do vegetarian at the moment, but I keep thinking it is just in my mind. > > It's ironic all the years I was a vegetarian I was surrounded by people who said I should eat meat. Now my regular friends say the opposite. When they talk about how awful it is that people eat so much eat, and they do this quite regularly, should only have it once a week, the suffering etc, I find it really hard because I feel the same way, can't bare the suffering of any creature. > > I'm sorry I know I'm ranting, I'm just so frustrated and confused and can't see straight. > I can't believe that I need to eat chicken and fish for lunch and dinner everyday, I keep thinking it must be in my mind, when I try to explain to two friends I spend a lot of time with and have known a long time, they just look at me as if I'm a naughty child who is telling a lie and I end up thinking this too. > > Please can someone give me a perspective. > > Thank you > > Lucy > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2009 Report Share Posted May 27, 2009 , Anne F <cityladya wrote: >Anne, This is really helpful, I appreciate all the advice, I think that when I start to feel steady it feels so good by comparison to the last decades that I think I'm healed, then get shocked when knocked off balance again so quickly. I think I need to learn that getting steady means feeling steady on step 3 for a long time, not just some of the time. I guess I am still learning step 3 even though sometimes I'm consistent with it. I think I've got a long way to go still. Lucy > You sound a bit off... don't worry, some of the frustration and > ranting is itself biochemical! You'll feel a bit better when you get > steadier again. > > I'm going to make a couple of suggestions. Disclaimer - I've never > been truly vegetarian, so the process was less frustrating to me than > to you... but this is what I'd think. > > First - hold off a while now before making any changes again. Let your > body really settle back in. I didn't experiment with reducing meat > again until I was on Step Seven. Without waiting that long... get Step > Three really in place at the very least. And I'd tend to want Five in > place - I find all those browns make a big difference in steadiness, > especially in vegetarian meals. At least, I'd really suggest, even > now, that any meatless meal you try you add browns, even if you need > whites along side. > > Do what Jo suggested - mix meat and other proteins in the same meal. I > often combine chicken and tofu, say. And I can't really face enough > beans alone to give me all the protein that I need - but last night I > had a reasonable amount of lentils with just enough pork to give me > enough protein. *Many* traditional dishes work that way - think > cassoulet, pea soup with ham, etc. > > Try other animal sources, rather than going straight to vegan protein. > I find cheese and eggs do very well for me. (In fact, I'd actually > increased my meat before RR, when I was having trouble with dairy - I > wasn't eating many eggs, then, and vegan just didn't work for my body > - a few meals without animal protein, and I'd start being hungry all > the time.) > > Try cheese and (brown) noodle dishes, cheese souffle, etc. Here in > New York, at least, the average dairy cow still lives on a family > farm, and grazes in pasture - that might feel easier for you. I also > do buy my meat from farmers - I do prefer the non-industrial meat. > Knowing that you are doing the best you reasonably can helps. > > Anne > > On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 7:23 AM, fleetlucy <fleetlucy wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > > > Two days of introducing one vegetarian meal each day and I am completely spaced out, can't think straight, don't feel connected to my body and feel weepy and confused. It's so disappointing, I guess my body is saying I can't do vegetarian at the moment, but I keep thinking it is just in my mind. > > > > It's ironic all the years I was a vegetarian I was surrounded by people who said I should eat meat. Now my regular friends say the opposite. When they talk about how awful it is that people eat so much eat, and they do this quite regularly, should only have it once a week, the suffering etc, I find it really hard because I feel the same way, can't bare the suffering of any creature. > > > > I'm sorry I know I'm ranting, I'm just so frustrated and confused and can't see straight. > > I can't believe that I need to eat chicken and fish for lunch and dinner everyday, I keep thinking it must be in my mind, when I try to explain to two friends I spend a lot of time with and have known a long time, they just look at me as if I'm a naughty child who is telling a lie and I end up thinking this too. > > > > Please can someone give me a perspective. > > > > Thank you > > > > Lucy > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2009 Report Share Posted May 28, 2009 , " Jenny " <jennifer.lee53 wrote: >Hi Jenny, Thank you for your thoughtful reply. I shall definitely take thing slower with this, yesterday I ate fish at both meals and by the end of the day I felt much better, still low lying anxiety, but not nearly as confused and light headed or weepy. After the second meal I felt my whole body relax, it stopped feeling frantic, I felt more in my body, like I'd come home. As for friends, I suppose this is a learning and healing, to not feel that I have to justify myself to them. Thanks for your advice. Lucy > Hi Lucy > > > > I really understand your frustration. > > > > Your body is sending you loud and clear messages that vegetarian food is > really not working for you at the moment - and that's definitely not in your > mind. This doesn't mean you won't ever be able to eat veggie food, though, > just that your body maybe has more healing to do and the denser protein in > meat and fish is probably what she needs right now. > > > > So what we need to think about is how you can reconcile yourself to eating > what your body says she needs. Once when I was getting upset about having > to cancel our organic vegbox in favour of out of season supermarket veg, my > partner said to me that I had to save myself first, before I could think > about saving the world. So, finances permitting, perhaps you could > compromise by buying meat that has been reared as humanely as possible? > Perhaps you could combine protein sources, so that you eat some meals that > have part meat/fish, part vegetarian protein? Perhaps start a lot slower - > have one vegetarian meal a week to begin with? I know Heather will be able > to give you great advice about introducing vegetarian food slowly, as that > is what she has done herself. I'm a lifelong vegetarian, so I don't have > any experience of making the change. > > > > About your friends' views - I don't think you need to justify yourself to > them. I can appreciate that you would want them to understand and support > you, but ultimately you need to do what is right for you at this time, > regardless of what other people say. You have that right. It's the old > oxygen mask analogy again - if you take care of yourself first, you are in a > much better place to then take care of others. > > > > I don't know if this helps or not. But keep talking, Lucy, I'm sure between > us all we can help you find a way to be comfortable about what you are > eating. > > > > Jenny > > > > _____ > > > On Behalf Of fleetlucy > 27 May 2009 13:23 > > problems again! > > Hi everyone, > > Two days of introducing one vegetarian meal each day and I am completely > spaced out, can't think straight, don't feel connected to my body and feel > weepy and confused. It's so disappointing, I guess my body is saying I can't > do vegetarian at the moment, but I keep thinking it is just in my mind. > > It's ironic all the years I was a vegetarian I was surrounded by people who > said I should eat meat. Now my regular friends say the opposite. When they > talk about how awful it is that people eat so much eat, and they do this > quite regularly, should only have it once a week, the suffering etc, I find > it really hard because I feel the same way, can't bare the suffering of any > creature. > > I'm sorry I know I'm ranting, I'm just so frustrated and confused and can't > see straight. > I can't believe that I need to eat chicken and fish for lunch and dinner > everyday, I keep thinking it must be in my mind, when I try to explain to > two friends I spend a lot of time with and have known a long time, they just > look at me as if I'm a naughty child who is telling a lie and I end up > thinking this too. > > Please can someone give me a perspective. > > Thank you > > Lucy > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2009 Report Share Posted May 28, 2009 Great Lucy. You have had great advice, & you know where you are from living it. Continue listening to your body as you make gradual changes. I am actually used to [only] having meat once a day, but for the past two days I have had fish or meat for both lunch & dinner due to the shifts I have been working. Boy did I miss my lentils! So for now I am where I need to be too, easing into more veggie lunches but nothing sudden or drastic. Mel , " fleetlucy " <fleetlucy wrote: > > , " Jenny " <jennifer.lee53@> wrote: > >Hi Jenny, > > Thank you for your thoughtful reply. I shall definitely take thing slower with this, yesterday I ate fish at both meals and by the end of the day I felt much better, still low lying anxiety, but not nearly as confused and light headed or weepy. After the second meal I felt my whole body relax, it stopped feeling frantic, I felt more in my body, like I'd come home. > > As for friends, I suppose this is a learning and healing, to not feel that I have to justify myself to them. > > Thanks for your advice. > > Lucy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2009 Report Share Posted May 28, 2009 , " mel8239 " <shaggypoo.chaos wrote: >Cheers Mel, It's good to hear that other people who want to be vegetarian find they can't always be too. Lucy > Great Lucy. > > You have had great advice, & you know where you are from living it. > > Continue listening to your body as you make gradual changes. > > I am actually used to [only] having meat once a day, but for the past two days I have had fish or meat for both lunch & dinner due to the shifts I have been working. > > Boy did I miss my lentils! > > So for now I am where I need to be too, easing into more veggie lunches but nothing sudden or drastic. > > Mel , " fleetlucy " <fleetlucy@> wrote: > > > > , " Jenny " <jennifer.lee53@> wrote: > > >Hi Jenny, > > > > Thank you for your thoughtful reply. I shall definitely take thing slower with this, yesterday I ate fish at both meals and by the end of the day I felt much better, still low lying anxiety, but not nearly as confused and light headed or weepy. After the second meal I felt my whole body relax, it stopped feeling frantic, I felt more in my body, like I'd come home. > > > > As for friends, I suppose this is a learning and healing, to not feel that I have to justify myself to them. > > > > Thanks for your advice. > > > > Lucy > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2009 Report Share Posted May 29, 2009 Hi Lucy, Well, it looks like you've gotten lots of advice, so I'll just add my experience & opinion to the mix. I felt a lot of changes in my body throughout the program, even during my 2.5 years on step 7 (though they're more subtle now). Some things I used to eat, I don't eat anymore. Some things I had to get rid of, I now can eat again. And there are some things I ate for a while, didn't eat for a while, and now eat again! Early in my program (before step 5), it was very hard for me to figure these things out. There was just too much going on in my body (and mind). And there were times I just didn't feel stable. I had not eaten meat for 24 years when I started RR. After about 18 months (at step 6 or early step 7), my body made it clear she wanted meat. Very surprising to me. So I eat some now. I hope to eat less and less, and perhaps go back to eating none. For now, I need it. I think it's quite a challenge to make a change such as going vegetarian while being relatively early in the steps. For me, it would take some of my focus off the step I was on, would have introduced too many variables. I don't know if that's true for you. I don't know the whole story of your vegetarian explorations...maybe a slower approach would work for you. Maybe a vegetarian meal a week or month or whatever feels comfortable. Or maybe, as Anne suggests, mixing some veggie protein with meats to see how you feel. Definitely keep us posted! Hope you're feeling better soon <smile>. Cinzia , " fleetlucy " <fleetlucy wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > Two days of introducing one vegetarian meal each day and I am completely spaced out, can't think straight, don't feel connected to my body and feel weepy and confused. It's so disappointing, I guess my body is saying I can't do vegetarian at the moment, but I keep thinking it is just in my mind. > > It's ironic all the years I was a vegetarian I was surrounded by people who said I should eat meat. Now my regular friends say the opposite. When they talk about how awful it is that people eat so much eat, and they do this quite regularly, should only have it once a week, the suffering etc, I find it really hard because I feel the same way, can't bare the suffering of any creature. > > I'm sorry I know I'm ranting, I'm just so frustrated and confused and can't see straight. > I can't believe that I need to eat chicken and fish for lunch and dinner everyday, I keep thinking it must be in my mind, when I try to explain to two friends I spend a lot of time with and have known a long time, they just look at me as if I'm a naughty child who is telling a lie and I end up thinking this too. > > Please can someone give me a perspective. > > Thank you > > Lucy > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2009 Report Share Posted May 29, 2009 Lucy, when I went vegetarian it was a slower transition then I originally thought it would be. I had to find the right balance for my body . I also discovered it was something my body wasn't ready to do until I was super steady on step 7 for awhile. I firmly believe that vegetarian protein sources affect the body differently then meat sources so it can be a bit tricky to find that balance, and it could take some time. The further on you are in the steps and the steadier you are, the better you'll be at reading your body. What step are you working on now? Heather There are two ways to live your life. One is as though nothing is a miracle. The other is as though everything is a miracle. --Albert Einstein ________________________________ fleetlucy <fleetlucy Wednesday, May 27, 2009 8:23:09 AM problems again! Hi everyone, Two days of introducing one vegetarian meal each day and I am completely spaced out, can't think straight, don't feel connected to my body and feel weepy and confused. It's so disappointing, I guess my body is saying I can't do vegetarian at the moment, but I keep thinking it is just in my mind. It's ironic all the years I was a vegetarian I was surrounded by people who said I should eat meat. Now my regular friends say the opposite. When they talk about how awful it is that people eat so much eat, and they do this quite regularly, should only have it once a week, the suffering etc, I find it really hard because I feel the same way, can't bare the suffering of any creature. I'm sorry I know I'm ranting, I'm just so frustrated and confused and can't see straight. I can't believe that I need to eat chicken and fish for lunch and dinner everyday, I keep thinking it must be in my mind, when I try to explain to two friends I spend a lot of time with and have known a long time, they just look at me as if I'm a naughty child who is telling a lie and I end up thinking this too. Please can someone give me a perspective. Thank you Lucy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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