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This was not aimed at you. It was aimed at the person

who called me a bigot and left the group. I

appreciate your posts on this issue. You clearly know

a lot more about this then I.

 

Rufus

 

 

 

--- Sally Harvey <sallyannaz wrote:

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> --- Rufus Shaw <rufus10_99 wrote:

> > I am always amused that the people who push this

> > politically correct agenda, do not like to debate

> > issues. They will quickly call you names,

> condemn

> > you, and then run away.

> >

>

> Ummm, I'm about as liberal as they come, and I

> believe

> I just debated with you. (See previous message)

>

> Sally

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Sally,

 

I agree. If you cannot appreciate debate, then a forum is no place to

be.

 

Peter

 

 

 

--- Rufus Shaw <rufus10_99 wrote:

> I am always amused that the people who push this

> politically correct agenda, do not like to debate

> issues. They will quickly call you names, condemn

> you, and then run away.

>

 

Ummm, I'm about as liberal as they come, and I believe

I just debated with you. (See previous message)

 

Sally

 

 

 

 

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This might not be the right place to post this, but I've been wondering if being

a vegetarian is not right for me anymore. I'm 31 -- been a vegetarian since age

13. I've always been a kind of lazy vegetarian. I do try to make sure I get my

protein, but when life gets hectic, I know I don't do a good job. I've never

been very creative with food or have had a lot of time to prepare or buy special

food. So... I'm slipping off my steps and wondering if it would help to eat

meat? I started eating fish once in a while about two years ago. I've

rationalized that to the point where I am ok with it. My husband and I looked at

the " free range " chicken in Whole Foods. I just wanted to see what options there

were. I'd never go back to red meat, I just have too many issues with that. But

I used to love chicken when I was younger. I know everyone is different but I am

having such a hard time trying to decide if it is worth trying. I think of the

cute little animals and it makes me sad...

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Hi Christina!

 

From my point of view, I welcome this issue being brought up. I have

found we respect each other's choices!

 

As for me, I'm back to eating fish and chicken. This is emotionally

hard for me; I love animals. But I am getting better at accepting that

I need to do what makes my body, mind and spirit feel as well as

possible.

 

One thing--of the many things--that I love about Kathleen's program is

how I have learned to know my body so well. I can say to myself that

yes, I'd rather be vegan! But that's just not do-able for me. Right

now. One day at a time.

 

So, I just thought I'd share this process and let you know that you

are not alone in this.

 

My mom, who is just the sweetest person ever, and who is a vegan,

encouraged me to eat fish and chicken this way: " Think of Lucy " (her

dog) " who is just the dearest being. She eats meat! " Just the way she

said it made me laugh and lean a bit more towards accepting my quirky

biochemistry. I feel so blessed my mom accepts and embraces me

unconditionally, and I believe we all strive toward loving our own

" dear " selves that way.

 

Much love to all of you, and whatever you've eaten today; may it have

nourished you and pleased you!

 

Janine

 

On Jul 20, 2009, at 1:32 PM, christina_in_va wrote:

 

> This might not be the right place to post this, but I've been

> wondering if being a vegetarian is not right for me anymore. I'm 31

> -- been a vegetarian since age 13. I've always been a kind of lazy

> vegetarian. I do try to make sure I get my protein, but when life

> gets hectic, I know I don't do a good job. I've never been very

> creative with food or have had a lot of time to prepare or buy

> special food. So... I'm slipping off my steps and wondering if it

> would help to eat meat? I started eating fish once in a while about

> two years ago. I've rationalized that to the point where I am ok

> with it. My husband and I looked at the " free range " chicken in

> Whole Foods. I just wanted to see what options there were. I'd never

> go back to red meat, I just have too many issues with that. But I

> used to love chicken when I was younger. I know everyone is

> different but I am having such a hard time trying to decide if it is

> worth trying. I think of the cute little animals and it makes me

> sad...

>

>

>

 

 

 

 

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Hi Christina,

 

I have struggled with this as well, even though I am quite new to the program.

At this point, I have been eating meat because I would be too overwhelmed by

developing the steps and doing them without meat. I am glad that you're looking

at chooser " kinder " animal options, because that has always sat better with my

conscience. Reading back over earlier posts, a number of people said that it

helped to express some gratitude before eating meat - that this is a gift that

is helping you to heal and to become whole.

 

I still want to go back to being vegan ... eventually. Like Janine said, one

thing, one day at a time.

 

On a similar note, my semi-vegan friend and I had a conversation the other day

about labels - when you call yourself a vegetarian, than it feels like you're

being dishonest if you eat some amount of meat. But if you're just yourself,

without any kind of label, it might make it easier to have a meal with chicken

or with fish. I suspect that you still will eat less meat than the average Joe,

and less is good for animals, too!

 

Good luck, Jessica

 

, Janine Acevedo <janine wrote:

>

> Hi Christina!

>

> From my point of view, I welcome this issue being brought up. I have

> found we respect each other's choices!

>

> As for me, I'm back to eating fish and chicken. This is emotionally

> hard for me; I love animals. But I am getting better at accepting that

> I need to do what makes my body, mind and spirit feel as well as

> possible.

>

> One thing--of the many things--that I love about Kathleen's program is

> how I have learned to know my body so well. I can say to myself that

> yes, I'd rather be vegan! But that's just not do-able for me. Right

> now. One day at a time.

>

> So, I just thought I'd share this process and let you know that you

> are not alone in this.

>

> My mom, who is just the sweetest person ever, and who is a vegan,

> encouraged me to eat fish and chicken this way: " Think of Lucy " (her

> dog) " who is just the dearest being. She eats meat! " Just the way she

> said it made me laugh and lean a bit more towards accepting my quirky

> biochemistry. I feel so blessed my mom accepts and embraces me

> unconditionally, and I believe we all strive toward loving our own

> " dear " selves that way.

>

> Much love to all of you, and whatever you've eaten today; may it have

> nourished you and pleased you!

>

> Janine

>

> On Jul 20, 2009, at 1:32 PM, christina_in_va wrote:

>

> > This might not be the right place to post this, but I've been

> > wondering if being a vegetarian is not right for me anymore. I'm 31

> > -- been a vegetarian since age 13. I've always been a kind of lazy

> > vegetarian. I do try to make sure I get my protein, but when life

> > gets hectic, I know I don't do a good job. I've never been very

> > creative with food or have had a lot of time to prepare or buy

> > special food. So... I'm slipping off my steps and wondering if it

> > would help to eat meat? I started eating fish once in a while about

> > two years ago. I've rationalized that to the point where I am ok

> > with it. My husband and I looked at the " free range " chicken in

> > Whole Foods. I just wanted to see what options there were. I'd never

> > go back to red meat, I just have too many issues with that. But I

> > used to love chicken when I was younger. I know everyone is

> > different but I am having such a hard time trying to decide if it is

> > worth trying. I think of the cute little animals and it makes me

> > sad...

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

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Hi Christina, you know, there are quite a few people in RR who were vegetarians

when they started but found they just couldn't get the healing they needed

without some animal sources. Personally I became vegetarian after many solid

years of recovery--and I took two years to fully make that conversion. You are

in good company, dear friend!

 

Heather

 

There are two ways to live your life. One is as though nothing is a miracle.

The other is as though everything is a miracle.

--Albert Einstein

 

 

 

 

________________________________

christina_in_va <chrissybits

 

Monday, July 20, 2009 4:32:37 PM

debating

 

 

This might not be the right place to post this, but I've been wondering if being

a vegetarian is not right for me anymore. I'm 31 -- been a vegetarian since age

13. I've always been a kind of lazy vegetarian. I do try to make sure I get my

protein, but when life gets hectic, I know I don't do a good job. I've never

been very creative with food or have had a lot of time to prepare or buy special

food. So... I'm slipping off my steps and wondering if it would help to eat

meat? I started eating fish once in a while about two years ago. I've

rationalized that to the point where I am ok with it. My husband and I looked at

the " free range " chicken in Whole Foods. I just wanted to see what options there

were. I'd never go back to red meat, I just have too many issues with that. But

I used to love chicken when I was younger. I know everyone is different but I am

having such a hard time trying to decide if it is worth trying. I think of the

cute little animals

and it makes me sad...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Thank you Heather, Jessica and Janine for your thoughtful responses! It really

has helped me to think about this and process everything. I really appreciate

it! I've gotten to a place where I am ok with eating fish, although it has taken

3 years of baby steps (can't believe it has taken that long). I may just have to

" wear " this idea for a while before I can actually do it. But I took my first

baby step a few days ago by looking at the free range chicken at Whole Foods.

 

Christina

 

, Heather Butler <hawaiihmb wrote:

>

> Hi Christina, you know, there are quite a few people in RR who were

vegetarians when they started but found they just couldn't get the healing they

needed without some animal sources. Personally I became vegetarian after many

solid years of recovery--and I took two years to fully make that conversion.

You are in good company, dear friend!

>

> Heather

>

> There are two ways to live your life. One is as though nothing is a miracle.

The other is as though everything is a miracle.

> --Albert Einstein

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> christina_in_va <chrissybits

>

> Monday, July 20, 2009 4:32:37 PM

> debating

>

>

> This might not be the right place to post this, but I've been wondering if

being a vegetarian is not right for me anymore. I'm 31 -- been a vegetarian

since age 13. I've always been a kind of lazy vegetarian. I do try to make sure

I get my protein, but when life gets hectic, I know I don't do a good job. I've

never been very creative with food or have had a lot of time to prepare or buy

special food. So... I'm slipping off my steps and wondering if it would help to

eat meat? I started eating fish once in a while about two years ago. I've

rationalized that to the point where I am ok with it. My husband and I looked at

the " free range " chicken in Whole Foods. I just wanted to see what options there

were. I'd never go back to red meat, I just have too many issues with that. But

I used to love chicken when I was younger. I know everyone is different but I am

having such a hard time trying to decide if it is worth trying. I think of the

cute little animals

> and it makes me sad...

>

 

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