Guest guest Posted October 16, 2003 Report Share Posted October 16, 2003 Yes, it could be all the fibre. If this has never happened to you before, you might want to consider consulting your doctor. It's possible that you hav a virus and that it just coincided with what you ate. However, many people cannot tolerate soy. I've been advised to cut down on my dairy consumption (well, I was advised to stop eating dairy, but I can't do that) and I asked my naturopath what she thought of soy milk. She said, it's fine if you can tolerate it...meaning that a lot of people have trouble tolerating it. I'm sure other people will have more suggestions/ideas, but if you think it's something that you're eating, then probably the easiest thing to do is to stop eating that particular food, see if that helps, then, if it does, slowly reintroduce the food into yoru diet until you find an amount of that food that you can tolerate. Good Luck..and happy belated thanksgiving from a fellow Canadian.At 07:48 PM 16-10-2003 -0000, you wrote: > Hello All, > I have a question about soy as in TVP and tofu and well...just any >soy product that you can purchase. I started " becoming " a vegetarian >about a year ago and during that time I have gotten pretty good at >cooking with TVP and some other soy products. Our Canadian >Thanksgiving was last Monday and I prepared " turkey slices " out of >tofu. Since I also had some of that veggie ground round I made myself >(my husband is a meat eater) burritos the day before Thanksgiving and >the day after. I love veggie burritos. Of course, I am also eating a >lot of veggies and I really like my carbs (unrefined when it comes to >grains). ANYWAYS, I've been having some tummy trouble since then and >I was really hoping that maybe it's just all the fiber and not the >soy. I'm in the bathroom a lot if you know what I mean. Is this >common? It never affected me this way before. Thanks! > Stef > > > >*************************************************************************** **** >To post to list via e-mail: send e-mail to " Veg-Recipes " >To post to list via website: Veg-Recipes/post >To contact List Owner: " Veg-Recipes-owner " >Subscribe or Un through site: / >OR Un via e-mail: Veg-Recipes- >Calendar: Veg-Recipes/calendar >Bookmarks: Veg-Recipes/links >Read or search old messages: Veg-Recipes/messages >*************************************************************************** **** > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2003 Report Share Posted October 16, 2003 I just read(or heard) something about this very topic and alot of time it ended up being the cargheenan in the product, not the soy itself but most people just assumed it was the soy. Check to see if that is in alot of the soy foods you are eating...I am wondering the same thing myself since I get affected to on occasion. Jan stef4734 <stef4734 wrote:Hello All, I have a question about soy as in TVP and tofu and well...just any soy product that you can purchase. I started " becoming " a vegetarian about a year ago and during that time I have gotten pretty good at cooking with TVP and some other soy products. Our Canadian Thanksgiving was last Monday and I prepared " turkey slices " out of tofu. Since I also had some of that veggie ground round I made myself (my husband is a meat eater) burritos the day before Thanksgiving and the day after. I love veggie burritos. Of course, I am also eating a lot of veggies and I really like my carbs (unrefined when it comes to grains). ANYWAYS, I've been having some tummy trouble since then and I was really hoping that maybe it's just all the fiber and not the soy. I'm in the bathroom a lot if you know what I mean. Is this common? It never affected me this way before. Thanks! Stef ******************************************************************************* To post to list via e-mail: send e-mail to " Veg-Recipes " To post to list via website: Veg-Recipes/post To contact List Owner: " Veg-Recipes-owner " Subscribe or Un through site: / OR Un via e-mail: Veg-Recipes- Calendar: Veg-Recipes/calendar Bookmarks: Veg-Recipes/links Read or search old messages: Veg-Recipes/messages ******************************************************************************* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2004 Report Share Posted December 11, 2004 Having been with a vegetarian and a meat eater, we worked things out no problem...I make vegan meals. If they wanted to add eggs, dairy, or meat, they were free too, but I didn't prepare it. It's always worked for me and honestly, neither ever felt the need to add anything to my meals, though they may have eaten animal products when we went out to restaurants. Keeps everyone happy. Veronica P.S. My brother *hated* all plant based foods and LOVED meat and dairy and now he's a happy vegan. Go figure. At 05:37 AM 12/12/2004 +0000, you wrote: >I would like to get myself one of those SoyToys to make my own soy >milk. I did a web search about soy tonight, and I was wondering, does >the SoyToy ferment the soy? How would you go about fermenting soy >safely? I am extremely interested in learning about this, because I >am really trying to go vegetarian. I believe it is in my best >interest, and my family's, if I can get my hubby to go vegetarian (a >longshot because he doesn't like most vegetables... he won't eat any >kind of bean or peas). Oh well, he respects my diet preferences, and >I will respect his. I may still have to buy and prepare meat, but I >won't have to spend as much on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2004 Report Share Posted December 12, 2004 There is a book caled " The Miso Book " that gives some details about the fermentation process. The proper Aspergillus organism can be ordered (the book has the names)...some are 'trade secrets'. It's a little like cheese -- the slightly different organisms yield different flavors. , " loreleicosner " <loreleicosner> wrote: > > I would like to get myself one of those SoyToys to make my own soy > milk. I did a web search about soy tonight, and I was wondering, does > the SoyToy ferment the soy? How would you go about fermenting soy > safely? I am extremely interested in learning about this, because I > am really trying to go vegetarian. I believe it is in my best > interest, and my family's, if I can get my hubby to go vegetarian (a > longshot because he doesn't like most vegetables... he won't eat any > kind of bean or peas). Oh well, he respects my diet preferences, and > I will respect his. I may still have to buy and prepare meat, but I > won't have to spend as much on it. > > Sincerely, > Lorelei Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2004 Report Share Posted December 13, 2004 HI There! We have a soy milk machine and have made it for years with the one machine http://www.soymilkmaker.com. It does heat up the water to pastuerize it, and they give great recipes to make all kinds of things... like tofu. Fermented soy is actually miso. Not soy milk. There is a lot you can make with miso... we have an " alfredo " sauce we love with it. BTW: They have a contest of giving away a machine month. But you have to check their site constantly to see if you win. Be peace, Mary ) ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ Earth is my home and animals are my family. Life is my religion and love is my example. Peace and freedom belong to us all. On Sun, 12 Dec 2004 05:37:43 -0000, loreleicosner <loreleicosner wrote: > > I would like to get myself one of those SoyToys to make my own soy > milk. I did a web search about soy tonight, and I was wondering, does > the SoyToy ferment the soy? How would you go about fermenting soy > safely? I am extremely interested in learning about this, because I > am really trying to go vegetarian. I believe it is in my best > interest, and my family's, if I can get my hubby to go vegetarian (a > longshot because he doesn't like most vegetables... he won't eat any > kind of bean or peas). Oh well, he respects my diet preferences, and > I will respect his. I may still have to buy and prepare meat, but I > won't have to spend as much on it. > > Sincerely, > Lorelei > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2009 Report Share Posted October 5, 2009 I've been trying to find a reputable source to answer some questions I have about different soy products, but so far I haven't been able to find anything. I was hoping someone might be able to point me in the right direction. Having been a vegetarian for more than 17 years, I've relied heavily on soy products. But I'm trying to stay away from them now after learning about the effects it can have. However, I noticed that my vitamins and especially fish oil say they contain soy. I can't find any without it. My understanding is that tofu and soy milk may be bad in high amounts, but what about things like *soybean oil*? It's in everything! Consequently, I'm also trying to find different veggie sources of protein, and have been relying mostly on beans, dairy/eggs, and seitan to a lesser extent. Are there any other good sources I'm missing? Thanks, Christina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2009 Report Share Posted October 6, 2009 Hi Christina, I try not to eat too much soy myself, some say it's ok to eat but others do say that you have to watch your portions. You should definetly eat a lot more vegetables like kale and broccoli there very high in nutrients and it's also a great sources of protein. They also have these great veggie burgers made of legumes, and brown rice. Here is the link, http://www.sunshineburger.com/index2.html You should also try Rice protein, I usually make a shake with almond milk instead of soy for breakfast, and dinner if I get home late from work and want something light. Rice Protein Shake Recipe, 8oz of almond milk 1/2 frozen banana 2 tablespoons of choclate protein table spoon of grounded flax seed( great source of omega's it's great oatmeal and salads). Here is the link to the Rice protein I use, http://www.sunshineburger.com/index2.html Hope this helps! Best, Esther , " christina_in_va " <chrissybits wrote: > > I've been trying to find a reputable source to answer some questions I have about different soy products, but so far I haven't been able to find anything. I was hoping someone might be able to point me in the right direction. Having been a vegetarian for more than 17 years, I've relied heavily on soy products. But I'm trying to stay away from them now after learning about the effects it can have. However, I noticed that my vitamins and especially fish oil say they contain soy. I can't find any without it. My understanding is that tofu and soy milk may be bad in high amounts, but what about things like *soybean oil*? It's in everything! > > Consequently, I'm also trying to find different veggie sources of protein, and have been relying mostly on beans, dairy/eggs, and seitan to a lesser extent. Are there any other good sources I'm missing? > > Thanks, > Christina > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 8, 2009 Report Share Posted October 8, 2009 Hi Esther, I'm with you try not to eat too much soy. I do eat it regularly, but not every day. http://www.radiantrecovery.com/resourcecenter/soystory.htm Here is a link to an article on soy that Kathleen did that I find very helpful in sorting out the soy story. Now, I think I will respectfully disagree with you about kale and broccoli as *good* protein sources . Kale has 2.5 grams of protein in a cup of cooked leaves. Broccoli is a little better with 3.7 in a cup. So, if I were trying to get my protien from veggies, I would be eating um buckets... ten cups of broc won't do it for me (gosh can you imagine the fiber alone, LOL). I think there is a reason that Kathleen suggests we work with *dense* sources. This *art* of dense protein for sugar sensitive vegetarians is the essence of why this list is here. I lOVE your enthusiasm, I just don't wanna eat ten cups of broccoli. Heather PS I have some of those sunshine burgers in my freezer, just looking for a time to make them There are two ways to live your life. One is as though nothing is a miracle. The other is as though everything is a miracle. --Albert Einstein ________________________________ Esther <Eartiles20 Tue, October 6, 2009 7:17:03 AM Re: Question about soy Hi Christina, I try not to eat too much soy myself, some say it's ok to eat but others do say that you have to watch your portions. You should definetly eat a lot more vegetables like kale and broccoli there very high in nutrients and it's also a great sources of protein. They also have these great veggie burgers made of legumes, and brown rice. Here is the link, You should also try Rice protein, I usually make a shake with almond milk instead of soy for breakfast, and dinner if I get home late from work and want something light. Rice Protein Shake Recipe, 8oz of almond milk 1/2 frozen banana 2 tablespoons of choclate protein table spoon of grounded flax seed( great source of omega's it's great oatmeal and salads). Here is the link to the Rice protein I use, http://www.sunshine burger.com/ index2.html Hope this helps! Best, Esther , " christina_in_ va " <chrissybits@ ....> wrote: > > I've been trying to find a reputable source to answer some questions I have about different soy products, but so far I haven't been able to find anything. I was hoping someone might be able to point me in the right direction. Having been a vegetarian for more than 17 years, I've relied heavily on soy products. But I'm trying to stay away from them now after learning about the effects it can have. However, I noticed that my vitamins and especially fish oil say they contain soy. I can't find any without it. My understanding is that tofu and soy milk may be bad in high amounts, but what about things like *soybean oil*? It's in everything! > > Consequently, I'm also trying to find different veggie sources of protein, and have been relying mostly on beans, dairy/eggs, and seitan to a lesser extent. Are there any other good sources I'm missing? > > Thanks, > Christina > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 8, 2009 Report Share Posted October 8, 2009 does anyone know where I can find out whether soybean oil and soy sauce are included in the soy products that should be consumed in moderation? ________________________________ Heather Butler <hawaiihmb Wed, October 7, 2009 8:06:47 PM Re: Re: Question about soy Hi Esther, I'm with you try not to eat too much soy. I do eat it regularly, but not every day. http://www.radiantr ecovery.com/ resourcecenter/ soystory. htm Here is a link to an article on soy that Kathleen did that I find very helpful in sorting out the soy story. Now, I think I will respectfully disagree with you about kale and broccoli as *good* protein sources . Kale has 2.5 grams of protein in a cup of cooked leaves. Broccoli is a little better with 3.7 in a cup. So, if I were trying to get my protien from veggies, I would be eating um buckets... ten cups of broc won't do it for me (gosh can you imagine the fiber alone, LOL). I think there is a reason that Kathleen suggests we work with *dense* sources. This *art* of dense protein for sugar sensitive vegetarians is the essence of why this list is here. I lOVE your enthusiasm, I just don't wanna eat ten cups of broccoli. Heather PS I have some of those sunshine burgers in my freezer, just looking for a time to make them There are two ways to live your life. One is as though nothing is a miracle. The other is as though everything is a miracle. --Albert Einstein ____________ _________ _________ __ Esther <Eartiles20 > Tue, October 6, 2009 7:17:03 AM Re: Question about soy Hi Christina, I try not to eat too much soy myself, some say it's ok to eat but others do say that you have to watch your portions. You should definetly eat a lot more vegetables like kale and broccoli there very high in nutrients and it's also a great sources of protein. They also have these great veggie burgers made of legumes, and brown rice. Here is the link, You should also try Rice protein, I usually make a shake with almond milk instead of soy for breakfast, and dinner if I get home late from work and want something light. Rice Protein Shake Recipe, 8oz of almond milk 1/2 frozen banana 2 tablespoons of choclate protein table spoon of grounded flax seed( great source of omega's it's great oatmeal and salads). Here is the link to the Rice protein I use, http://www.sunshine burger.com/ index2.html Hope this helps! Best, Esther , " christina_in_ va " <chrissybits@ ....> wrote: > > I've been trying to find a reputable source to answer some questions I have about different soy products, but so far I haven't been able to find anything. I was hoping someone might be able to point me in the right direction. Having been a vegetarian for more than 17 years, I've relied heavily on soy products. But I'm trying to stay away from them now after learning about the effects it can have. However, I noticed that my vitamins and especially fish oil say they contain soy. I can't find any without it. My understanding is that tofu and soy milk may be bad in high amounts, but what about things like *soybean oil*? It's in everything! > > Consequently, I'm also trying to find different veggie sources of protein, and have been relying mostly on beans, dairy/eggs, and seitan to a lesser extent. Are there any other good sources I'm missing? > > Thanks, > Christina > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 8, 2009 Report Share Posted October 8, 2009 Christina, did you see the email I sent to Esther? It has a link to an article on soy in the RR newsletter. My guess is that trace amounts of soy in things like vitamins and fish oil aren't enough to have an ill effect unless you are dealing with an allergy. I'm thinking about your protein question... I do make a nutloaf every once in awhile. That doesn't have all the protein I need, but it does have a big chunk of it (I usually have eggs or cheese with it to supplement). There are of course variations in the things you mentioned. For example, for dairy have you tried paneer? It's an indian cheese, I find it in my local health food store and in local ethnic markets. I love making curries with it. Heather There are two ways to live your life. One is as though nothing is a miracle. The other is as though everything is a miracle. --Albert Einstein ________________________________ christina_in_va <chrissybits Mon, October 5, 2009 11:45:10 AM Question about soy I've been trying to find a reputable source to answer some questions I have about different soy products, but so far I haven't been able to find anything. I was hoping someone might be able to point me in the right direction. Having been a vegetarian for more than 17 years, I've relied heavily on soy products. But I'm trying to stay away from them now after learning about the effects it can have. However, I noticed that my vitamins and especially fish oil say they contain soy. I can't find any without it. My understanding is that tofu and soy milk may be bad in high amounts, but what about things like *soybean oil*? It's in everything! Consequently, I'm also trying to find different veggie sources of protein, and have been relying mostly on beans, dairy/eggs, and seitan to a lesser extent. Are there any other good sources I'm missing? Thanks, Christina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 8, 2009 Report Share Posted October 8, 2009 --- On Wed, 10/7/09, Heather Butler <hawaiihmb wrote: Heather Butler <hawaiihmb Re: Re: Question about soy Wednesday, October 7, 2009, 8:06 PM Hi Heather, Thanks for the link to the article. LOL, your right we would have to eat buckets of veggies to get enough protein. That's great that you've have the burgers there really great. Thanks Again, Esther Hi Esther, I'm with you try not to eat too much soy. I do eat it regularly, but not every day. http://www.radiantr ecovery.com/ resourcecenter/ soystory. htm Here is a link to an article on soy that Kathleen did that I find very helpful in sorting out the soy story. Now, I think I will respectfully disagree with you about kale and broccoli as *good* protein sources . Kale has 2.5 grams of protein in a cup of cooked leaves. Broccoli is a little better with 3.7 in a cup. So, if I were trying to get my protien from veggies, I would be eating um buckets... ten cups of broc won't do it for me (gosh can you imagine the fiber alone, LOL). I think there is a reason that Kathleen suggests we work with *dense* sources. This *art* of dense protein for sugar sensitive vegetarians is the essence of why this list is here. I lOVE your enthusiasm, I just don't wanna eat ten cups of broccoli. Heather PS I have some of those sunshine burgers in my freezer, just looking for a time to make them There are two ways to live your life. One is as though nothing is a miracle. The other is as though everything is a miracle. --Albert Einstein ____________ _________ _________ __ Esther <Eartiles20 > Tue, October 6, 2009 7:17:03 AM Re: Question about soy Hi Christina, I try not to eat too much soy myself, some say it's ok to eat but others do say that you have to watch your portions. You should definetly eat a lot more vegetables like kale and broccoli there very high in nutrients and it's also a great sources of protein. They also have these great veggie burgers made of legumes, and brown rice. Here is the link, You should also try Rice protein, I usually make a shake with almond milk instead of soy for breakfast, and dinner if I get home late from work and want something light. Rice Protein Shake Recipe, 8oz of almond milk 1/2 frozen banana 2 tablespoons of choclate protein table spoon of grounded flax seed( great source of omega's it's great oatmeal and salads). Here is the link to the Rice protein I use, http://www.sunshine burger.com/ index2.html Hope this helps! Best, Esther , " christina_in_ va " <chrissybits@ ....> wrote: > > I've been trying to find a reputable source to answer some questions I have about different soy products, but so far I haven't been able to find anything. I was hoping someone might be able to point me in the right direction. Having been a vegetarian for more than 17 years, I've relied heavily on soy products. But I'm trying to stay away from them now after learning about the effects it can have. However, I noticed that my vitamins and especially fish oil say they contain soy. I can't find any without it. My understanding is that tofu and soy milk may be bad in high amounts, but what about things like *soybean oil*? It's in everything! > > Consequently, I'm also trying to find different veggie sources of protein, and have been relying mostly on beans, dairy/eggs, and seitan to a lesser extent. Are there any other good sources I'm missing? > > Thanks, > Christina > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 8, 2009 Report Share Posted October 8, 2009 how old are you, Christina? kathleen On Oct 7, 2009, at 7:28 PM, Christina L wrote: > does anyone know where I can find out whether soybean oil and soy > sauce are included in the soy products that should be consumed in > moderation? > > > > > ________________________________ > Heather Butler <hawaiihmb > > Wed, October 7, 2009 8:06:47 PM > Re: Re: Question about soy > > > Hi Esther, I'm with you try not to eat too much soy. I do eat it > regularly, but not every day. http://www.radiantr ecovery.com/ > resourcecenter/ soystory. htm Here is a link to an article on soy > that Kathleen did that I find very helpful in sorting out the soy > story. Now, I think I will respectfully disagree with you about kale > and broccoli as *good* protein sources . Kale has 2.5 grams of > protein in a cup of cooked leaves. Broccoli is a little better with > 3.7 in a cup. So, if I were trying to get my protien from veggies, I > would be eating um buckets... ten cups of broc won't do it for me > (gosh can you imagine the fiber alone, LOL). I think there is a > reason that Kathleen suggests we work with *dense* sources. This > *art* of dense protein for sugar sensitive vegetarians is the > essence of why this list is here. I lOVE your enthusiasm, I just > don't wanna eat ten cups of broccoli. > > Heather > PS I have some of those sunshine burgers in my freezer, just looking > for a time to make them > > There are two ways to live your life. One is as though nothing is a > miracle. The other is as though everything is a miracle. > --Albert Einstein > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > Esther <Eartiles20 > > > Tue, October 6, 2009 7:17:03 AM > Re: Question about soy > > Hi Christina, > > I try not to eat too much soy myself, some say it's ok to eat but > others do say that you have to watch your portions. > You should definetly eat a lot more vegetables like kale and > broccoli there very high in nutrients and it's also a great sources > of protein. They also have these great veggie burgers made of > legumes, and brown rice. Here is the link, > > You should also try Rice protein, I usually make a shake with almond > milk instead of soy for breakfast, and dinner if I get home late > from work and want something light. > > Rice Protein Shake Recipe, > > 8oz of almond milk > 1/2 frozen banana > 2 tablespoons of choclate protein > table spoon of grounded flax seed( great source of omega's it's > great oatmeal and salads). > > Here is the link to the Rice protein I use, > > http://www.sunshine burger.com/ index2.html > > Hope this helps! > > Best, > > Esther > > , " christina_in_ va " > <chrissybits@ ...> wrote: >> >> I've been trying to find a reputable source to answer some >> questions I have about different soy products, but so far I haven't >> been able to find anything. I was hoping someone might be able to >> point me in the right direction. Having been a vegetarian for more >> than 17 years, I've relied heavily on soy products. But I'm trying >> to stay away from them now after learning about the effects it can >> have. However, I noticed that my vitamins and especially fish oil >> say they contain soy. I can't find any without it. My understanding >> is that tofu and soy milk may be bad in high amounts, but what >> about things like *soybean oil*? It's in everything! >> >> Consequently, I'm also trying to find different veggie sources of >> protein, and have been relying mostly on beans, dairy/eggs, and >> seitan to a lesser extent. Are there any other good sources I'm >> missing? >> >> Thanks, >> Christina >> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 8, 2009 Report Share Posted October 8, 2009 Hi Kathleen, I am 31 and trying to conceive. I used to eat a lot of soy, and have cut most of it out, but I see " soy " listed in my vitamins and fish oil. Sometimes it says " soybean oil " so I am not sure if this is potentially harmful or not. Trying to avoid it but it's everywhere. Thanks, Christina , Kathleen DesMaisons <radiantkd wrote: > > how old are you, Christina? > > kathleen > > > On Oct 7, 2009, at 7:28 PM, Christina L wrote: > > > does anyone know where I can find out whether soybean oil and soy > > sauce are included in the soy products that should be consumed in > > moderation? > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > Heather Butler <hawaiihmb > > > > Wed, October 7, 2009 8:06:47 PM > > Re: Re: Question about soy > > > > > > Hi Esther, I'm with you try not to eat too much soy. I do eat it > > regularly, but not every day. http://www.radiantr ecovery.com/ > > resourcecenter/ soystory. htm Here is a link to an article on soy > > that Kathleen did that I find very helpful in sorting out the soy > > story. Now, I think I will respectfully disagree with you about kale > > and broccoli as *good* protein sources . Kale has 2.5 grams of > > protein in a cup of cooked leaves. Broccoli is a little better with > > 3.7 in a cup. So, if I were trying to get my protien from veggies, I > > would be eating um buckets... ten cups of broc won't do it for me > > (gosh can you imagine the fiber alone, LOL). I think there is a > > reason that Kathleen suggests we work with *dense* sources. This > > *art* of dense protein for sugar sensitive vegetarians is the > > essence of why this list is here. I lOVE your enthusiasm, I just > > don't wanna eat ten cups of broccoli. > > > > Heather > > PS I have some of those sunshine burgers in my freezer, just looking > > for a time to make them > > > > There are two ways to live your life. One is as though nothing is a > > miracle. The other is as though everything is a miracle. > > --Albert Einstein > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > Esther <Eartiles20 > > > > > Tue, October 6, 2009 7:17:03 AM > > Re: Question about soy > > > > Hi Christina, > > > > I try not to eat too much soy myself, some say it's ok to eat but > > others do say that you have to watch your portions. > > You should definetly eat a lot more vegetables like kale and > > broccoli there very high in nutrients and it's also a great sources > > of protein. They also have these great veggie burgers made of > > legumes, and brown rice. Here is the link, > > > > You should also try Rice protein, I usually make a shake with almond > > milk instead of soy for breakfast, and dinner if I get home late > > from work and want something light. > > > > Rice Protein Shake Recipe, > > > > 8oz of almond milk > > 1/2 frozen banana > > 2 tablespoons of choclate protein > > table spoon of grounded flax seed( great source of omega's it's > > great oatmeal and salads). > > > > Here is the link to the Rice protein I use, > > > > http://www.sunshine burger.com/ index2.html > > > > Hope this helps! > > > > Best, > > > > Esther > > > > , " christina_in_ va " > > <chrissybits@ ...> wrote: > >> > >> I've been trying to find a reputable source to answer some > >> questions I have about different soy products, but so far I haven't > >> been able to find anything. I was hoping someone might be able to > >> point me in the right direction. Having been a vegetarian for more > >> than 17 years, I've relied heavily on soy products. But I'm trying > >> to stay away from them now after learning about the effects it can > >> have. However, I noticed that my vitamins and especially fish oil > >> say they contain soy. I can't find any without it. My understanding > >> is that tofu and soy milk may be bad in high amounts, but what > >> about things like *soybean oil*? It's in everything! > >> > >> Consequently, I'm also trying to find different veggie sources of > >> protein, and have been relying mostly on beans, dairy/eggs, and > >> seitan to a lesser extent. Are there any other good sources I'm > >> missing? > >> > >> Thanks, > >> Christina > >> > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 8, 2009 Report Share Posted October 8, 2009 Thanks, Heather. I think I missed this email from you earlier I agree with you that the trace amounts probably don't do much, but it's hard to know for sure. I thought I would see what you all thought. Your nutloaf sounds intriguing. Do you have a recipe for that? , Heather Butler <hawaiihmb wrote: > > Christina, did you see the email I sent to Esther? It has a link to an article on soy in the RR newsletter. My guess is that trace amounts of soy in things like vitamins and fish oil aren't enough to have an ill effect unless you are dealing with an allergy. > > I'm thinking about your protein question... I do make a nutloaf every once in awhile. That doesn't have all the protein I need, but it does have a big chunk of it (I usually have eggs or cheese with it to supplement). There are of course variations in the things you mentioned. For example, for dairy have you tried paneer? It's an indian cheese, I find it in my local health food store and in local ethnic markets. I love making curries with it. > > Heather > > There are two ways to live your life. One is as though nothing is a miracle. The other is as though everything is a miracle. > --Albert Einstein > > > > > ________________________________ > christina_in_va <chrissybits > > Mon, October 5, 2009 11:45:10 AM > Question about soy > > > I've been trying to find a reputable source to answer some questions I have about different soy products, but so far I haven't been able to find anything. I was hoping someone might be able to point me in the right direction. Having been a vegetarian for more than 17 years, I've relied heavily on soy products. But I'm trying to stay away from them now after learning about the effects it can have. However, I noticed that my vitamins and especially fish oil say they contain soy. I can't find any without it. My understanding is that tofu and soy milk may be bad in high amounts, but what about things like *soybean oil*? It's in everything! > > Consequently, I'm also trying to find different veggie sources of protein, and have been relying mostly on beans, dairy/eggs, and seitan to a lesser extent. Are there any other good sources I'm missing? > > Thanks, > Christina > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 8, 2009 Report Share Posted October 8, 2009 Trace amounts really do not matter. kathleen On Oct 8, 2009, at 7:38 AM, christina_in_va wrote: > Hi Kathleen, > > I am 31 and trying to conceive. I used to eat a lot of soy, and have > cut most of it out, but I see " soy " listed in my vitamins and fish > oil. Sometimes it says " soybean oil " so I am not sure if this is > potentially harmful or not. Trying to avoid it but it's everywhere. > > Thanks, > Christina > > , Kathleen DesMaisons > <radiantkd wrote: >> >> how old are you, Christina? >> >> kathleen >> >> >> On Oct 7, 2009, at 7:28 PM, Christina L wrote: >> >>> does anyone know where I can find out whether soybean oil and soy >>> sauce are included in the soy products that should be consumed in >>> moderation? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ________________________________ >>> Heather Butler <hawaiihmb >>> >>> Wed, October 7, 2009 8:06:47 PM >>> Re: Re: Question about soy >>> >>> >>> Hi Esther, I'm with you try not to eat too much soy. I do eat it >>> regularly, but not every day. http://www.radiantr ecovery.com/ >>> resourcecenter/ soystory. htm Here is a link to an article on soy >>> that Kathleen did that I find very helpful in sorting out the soy >>> story. Now, I think I will respectfully disagree with you about kale >>> and broccoli as *good* protein sources . Kale has 2.5 grams of >>> protein in a cup of cooked leaves. Broccoli is a little better with >>> 3.7 in a cup. So, if I were trying to get my protien from veggies, I >>> would be eating um buckets... ten cups of broc won't do it for me >>> (gosh can you imagine the fiber alone, LOL). I think there is a >>> reason that Kathleen suggests we work with *dense* sources. This >>> *art* of dense protein for sugar sensitive vegetarians is the >>> essence of why this list is here. I lOVE your enthusiasm, I just >>> don't wanna eat ten cups of broccoli. >>> >>> Heather >>> PS I have some of those sunshine burgers in my freezer, just looking >>> for a time to make them >>> >>> There are two ways to live your life. One is as though nothing is a >>> miracle. The other is as though everything is a miracle. >>> --Albert Einstein >>> >>> ____________ _________ _________ __ >>> Esther <Eartiles20 > >>> >>> Tue, October 6, 2009 7:17:03 AM >>> Re: Question about soy >>> >>> Hi Christina, >>> >>> I try not to eat too much soy myself, some say it's ok to eat but >>> others do say that you have to watch your portions. >>> You should definetly eat a lot more vegetables like kale and >>> broccoli there very high in nutrients and it's also a great sources >>> of protein. They also have these great veggie burgers made of >>> legumes, and brown rice. Here is the link, >>> >>> You should also try Rice protein, I usually make a shake with almond >>> milk instead of soy for breakfast, and dinner if I get home late >>> from work and want something light. >>> >>> Rice Protein Shake Recipe, >>> >>> 8oz of almond milk >>> 1/2 frozen banana >>> 2 tablespoons of choclate protein >>> table spoon of grounded flax seed( great source of omega's it's >>> great oatmeal and salads). >>> >>> Here is the link to the Rice protein I use, >>> >>> http://www.sunshine burger.com/ index2.html >>> >>> Hope this helps! >>> >>> Best, >>> >>> Esther >>> >>> , " christina_in_ va " >>> <chrissybits@ ...> wrote: >>>> >>>> I've been trying to find a reputable source to answer some >>>> questions I have about different soy products, but so far I haven't >>>> been able to find anything. I was hoping someone might be able to >>>> point me in the right direction. Having been a vegetarian for more >>>> than 17 years, I've relied heavily on soy products. But I'm trying >>>> to stay away from them now after learning about the effects it can >>>> have. However, I noticed that my vitamins and especially fish oil >>>> say they contain soy. I can't find any without it. My understanding >>>> is that tofu and soy milk may be bad in high amounts, but what >>>> about things like *soybean oil*? It's in everything! >>>> >>>> Consequently, I'm also trying to find different veggie sources of >>>> protein, and have been relying mostly on beans, dairy/eggs, and >>>> seitan to a lesser extent. Are there any other good sources I'm >>>> missing? >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Christina >>>> >>> >>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 8, 2009 Report Share Posted October 8, 2009 Thank you! , Kathleen DesMaisons <radiantkd wrote: > > Trace amounts really do not matter. > > kathleen > On Oct 8, 2009, at 7:38 AM, christina_in_va wrote: > > > Hi Kathleen, > > > > I am 31 and trying to conceive. I used to eat a lot of soy, and have > > cut most of it out, but I see " soy " listed in my vitamins and fish > > oil. Sometimes it says " soybean oil " so I am not sure if this is > > potentially harmful or not. Trying to avoid it but it's everywhere. > > > > Thanks, > > Christina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2009 Report Share Posted October 17, 2009 Oh - there's so much in this message. The first thing I did was to laugh about the 10 cuts of broccolli. I think most of us have been hit with that funny problem. I actually tried to eat One Sandwich with enough protein (28 grams) of peanut butter one day. Yeow - that was ridiculous. I don't drink milk. And I had a cold one day when I read that anything with the texture of milk will make my breatheing feel clogged. That made sense, so, desperate to breathe, I cut soymilk out of my diet. And I cut ricemilk out of my diet years ago when I realized that it was so sweet/yummy bcause it was so highly refined - just like white sugar and white flour. ANY YUMMIER IDEAS THAN WATER FOR ME? I'm very curious about this Rice Protein or Almond Milk that you write about. I never heard of Rice Protein before - will look into it. But I had thought the Almond Milk was just like the Rice Milk - no? I'm going to try it. CHOCOLATE PROTEIN??? What's That??? I think a whole new world is going to open up for me here at Radiant Vegetarians. Alison in NY , Heather Butler <hawaiihmb wrote: > > Hi Esther, I'm with you try not to eat too much soy. I do eat it regularly, but not every day. http://www.radiantrecovery.com/resourcecenter/soystory.htm Here is a link to an article on soy that Kathleen did that I find very helpful in sorting out the soy story. Now, I think I will respectfully disagree with you about kale and broccoli as *good* protein sources . Kale has 2.5 grams of protein in a cup of cooked leaves. Broccoli is a little better with 3.7 in a cup. So, if I were trying to get my protien from veggies, I would be eating um buckets... ten cups of broc won't do it for me (gosh can you imagine the fiber alone, LOL). I think there is a reason that Kathleen suggests we work with *dense* sources. This *art* of dense protein for sugar sensitive vegetarians is the essence of why this list is here. I lOVE your enthusiasm, I just don't wanna eat ten cups of broccoli. > > Heather > PS I have some of those sunshine burgers in my freezer, just looking for a time to make them > > There are two ways to live your life. One is as though nothing is a miracle. The other is as though everything is a miracle. > --Albert Einstein > > > > > ________________________________ > Esther <Eartiles20 > > Tue, October 6, 2009 7:17:03 AM > Re: Question about soy > > > Hi Christina, > > I try not to eat too much soy myself, some say it's ok to eat but others do say that you have to watch your portions. > You should definetly eat a lot more vegetables like kale and broccoli there very high in nutrients and it's also a great sources of protein. They also have these great veggie burgers made of legumes, and brown rice. Here is the link, > > You should also try Rice protein, I usually make a shake with almond milk instead of soy for breakfast, and dinner if I get home late from work and want something light. > > Rice Protein Shake Recipe, > > 8oz of almond milk > 1/2 frozen banana > 2 tablespoons of choclate protein > table spoon of grounded flax seed( great source of omega's it's great oatmeal and salads). > > Here is the link to the Rice protein I use, > > http://www.sunshine burger.com/ index2.html > > Hope this helps! > > Best, > > Esther > > , " christina_in_ va " <chrissybits@ ....> wrote: > > > > I've been trying to find a reputable source to answer some questions I have about different soy products, but so far I haven't been able to find anything. I was hoping someone might be able to point me in the right direction. Having been a vegetarian for more than 17 years, I've relied heavily on soy products. But I'm trying to stay away from them now after learning about the effects it can have. However, I noticed that my vitamins and especially fish oil say they contain soy. I can't find any without it. My understanding is that tofu and soy milk may be bad in high amounts, but what about things like *soybean oil*? It's in everything! > > > > Consequently, I'm also trying to find different veggie sources of protein, and have been relying mostly on beans, dairy/eggs, and seitan to a lesser extent. Are there any other good sources I'm missing? > > > > Thanks, > > Christina > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2009 Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 Hi, I make almond milk with a soyabella machine. A little squeeze of lemon and a pinch of sea salt makes it taste quite dairy-like, for people that enjoy cow's milk, although the texture of the milk is more like skim. I like coconut water! Bye for now! Janine On Oct 17, 2009, at 9:11 AM, visualsparkles wrote: > Oh - there's so much in this message. > The first thing I did was to laugh about the 10 cuts of broccolli. > I think most of us have been hit with that funny problem. > I actually tried to eat One Sandwich with enough protein (28 grams) > of peanut butter one day. Yeow - that was ridiculous. > > I don't drink milk. And I had a cold one day > when I read that anything with the texture of milk will make my > breatheing feel clogged. That made sense, so, desperate to breathe, > I cut soymilk out of my diet. And I cut ricemilk out of my diet > years ago when I realized that it was so sweet/yummy bcause it was > so highly refined - just like white sugar and white flour. ANY > YUMMIER IDEAS THAN WATER FOR ME? > > I'm very curious about this Rice Protein or Almond Milk that you > write about. I never heard of Rice Protein before - will look into > it. But I had thought the Almond Milk was just like the Rice Milk - > no? I'm going to try it. CHOCOLATE PROTEIN??? What's That??? > > I think a whole new world is going to open up for me here at Radiant > Vegetarians. > > Alison in NY > > , Heather Butler > <hawaiihmb wrote: > > > > Hi Esther, I'm with you try not to eat too much soy. I do eat it > regularly, but not every day. http://www.radiantrecovery.com/resourcecenter/soystory.htm > Here is a link to an article on soy that Kathleen did that I find > very helpful in sorting out the soy story. Now, I think I will > respectfully disagree with you about kale and broccoli as *good* > protein sources . Kale has 2.5 grams of protein in a cup of cooked > leaves. Broccoli is a little better with 3.7 in a cup. So, if I were > trying to get my protien from veggies, I would be eating um > buckets... ten cups of broc won't do it for me (gosh can you imagine > the fiber alone, LOL). I think there is a reason that Kathleen > suggests we work with *dense* sources. This *art* of dense protein > for sugar sensitive vegetarians is the essence of why this list is > here. I lOVE your enthusiasm, I just don't wanna eat ten cups of > broccoli. > > > > Heather > > PS I have some of those sunshine burgers in my freezer, just > looking for a time to make them > > > > There are two ways to live your life. One is as though nothing is > a miracle. The other is as though everything is a miracle. > > --Albert Einstein > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > Esther <Eartiles20 > > > > Tue, October 6, 2009 7:17:03 AM > > Re: Question about soy > > > > > > Hi Christina, > > > > I try not to eat too much soy myself, some say it's ok to eat but > others do say that you have to watch your portions. > > You should definetly eat a lot more vegetables like kale and > broccoli there very high in nutrients and it's also a great sources > of protein. They also have these great veggie burgers made of > legumes, and brown rice. Here is the link, > > > > You should also try Rice protein, I usually make a shake with > almond milk instead of soy for breakfast, and dinner if I get home > late from work and want something light. > > > > Rice Protein Shake Recipe, > > > > 8oz of almond milk > > 1/2 frozen banana > > 2 tablespoons of choclate protein > > table spoon of grounded flax seed( great source of omega's it's > great oatmeal and salads). > > > > Here is the link to the Rice protein I use, > > > > http://www.sunshine burger.com/ index2.html > > > > Hope this helps! > > > > Best, > > > > Esther > > > > , " christina_in_ va " > <chrissybits@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > I've been trying to find a reputable source to answer some > questions I have about different soy products, but so far I haven't > been able to find anything. I was hoping someone might be able to > point me in the right direction. Having been a vegetarian for more > than 17 years, I've relied heavily on soy products. But I'm trying > to stay away from them now after learning about the effects it can > have. However, I noticed that my vitamins and especially fish oil > say they contain soy. I can't find any without it. My understanding > is that tofu and soy milk may be bad in high amounts, but what about > things like *soybean oil*? It's in everything! > > > > > > Consequently, I'm also trying to find different veggie sources > of protein, and have been relying mostly on beans, dairy/eggs, and > seitan to a lesser extent. Are there any other good sources I'm > missing? > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Christina > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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